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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstera

was held in Washington on Friday, June 8, 1945, at 10:30 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Hammond, Assistant Secretary
Thurston, Assistant to the Chairman
Vest, General Attorney
Wyatt, General Counsel

Telegrams to
Mr. Flanders, President of the Federal Reserve
of

Boston, Messrs. Treiberand McCreedy, Secretaries of the Fed-

Reserve Banks of New York and Philadelphia, respectively, Messrs.
14 /1
arid
McLarin, Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond
44c1 Atlanta,
respectively, Mr. Dillard, Vice President of the Federal
ileaerve tank of
Chicago, Mr. Stewart, Secretary of the Federal Reserve
Of St,
Louis, Mr. Powell, First Vice President of the Federal Reeerve

of Minneapolis, Mr. Caldwell, Chairman of the Federal Re-

t44

k

eeN.

of Kansas

City, Mr. Gilbert, President of the Federal Re-

Of Dallas, and Mr.
Earhart, Vice President of the Federal
'Jar* of San Francisco, stating that the Board approves the esWithout change by the Federal Reserve Banks of St. Louis
Sati
1.14e 6
)

'44.nelsco on June 5, by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta on
the Federal
Reserve Banks of New York, Philadelphia, Richmond,

J1.

."Lin
neapolis, Kansas City, Dallas, and San Francisco on June 7,
1
916 and ,
°Y the Federal
Reserve Bank of Boston today of the rates of




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cli8e°1-int and purchase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Mr. Evans referred to the Board's letter of February 11, 1944,
t 14,

Black, Governor of the Farm Credit Administration, in which the
Position was
taken that the Board would have no objection to legisla—
tiOt L.
WILI-Ch would fix the maximum amount of a farm loan by a Federal
Land IQ_
on first mortgage security at 65% of its normal agricultural
1jj
') with the understanding that in the new legislation the authority
t(31` the
---41-Lag of second mortgage loans by the Land Bank Commissioner
%lad ID
e terminated. Mr. Evans said that at the time the Board's letter wa
8

tkre
aub

Or

seat the officials of the Farm Credit Administration were in

agreement with the position set forth therein but that because

eequent increases in the prices of farm lands it was felt that,
if the
arm Credit Administration was to be able to do its share
e ra
'a financin , it mould be necessary to retain for a furtherofg. tem—

Do

til011
:
471-0d the authority of the Land Bank Commissioner to make
°rtgage loans.

This matter, he said, was discussed informally

th
A

ere of the Board and the representatives of the Farm Credit

8tl
'
ation were informed that the Board did not care to change its
vItio
rl on the matter but would not express an opinion with respect
to it
t"that1111lees such an opinion were asked.

Mr. Evans vent on to say

sletion as passed by Congress renewed the authority of the
14k1
cltazIk
Commissioner for one year and it was made clear by the




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agricultural leaders in Congress during the debates on the legisla—
t44Uat it was their desire to eliminate the authority for second
431
'
tgage loans as soon as possible and that the renewal for one year
we's 14erelY for the purpose of tiding over the existing situation. It
l'fae
• 'Irans' opinion that the Board should not change the position
set
"" ln its letter of February 11, 1944, and that the authority
Of
the

L
44d Bank Commissioner to make second mortgage loans should

be el.
4-3-tainated from the law as promptly as possible. Mr. Evans' state—

kerlt

-8

made merely for the information of the members of the Board

44 rio

action with respect to the matter was called for at this time.
Mr. McKee reported that he, Mr. Morrill, and Mr. Pollard,
As •
4stant .
Dlrector of the Division of Examinations, went to Memphis,

tulesse

e) on Tuesday, June 5, to attend a meeting of representatives
atke
In most of the cities where the absorption of exchange charges
hae„
eeented a problem in view of the provision of section 19 of the
recier.,

b

`4.4.

14/aits,

Reserve Act prohibiting the payment of interest on demand de—

tal

at the meeting was a very satisfactory one, and that shortly
be
.4°re th
e end of the meeting, Sterling B. Cramer, First Vice Pres—
red

°f the Fifth—Third Union Trust Company, Cincinnati, Ohio, ofInOt:

Ion which, after being seconded by Ralph C. Gifford,

4441
te

'
11 First National Bank, Louisville, Kentucky, and after amend—
"41eh were accepted by them, was put by the chair to a voice




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tote and
was adopted without a dissenting vote. It was made clear
41 the

discussion, Mr- McKee said, that the motion was regarded as

84 inforraal
'Ilithout

expression of the prevailing sentiment of those present,

binding effect on anyone, and that it was understood that the

final d
ecision would be made by the Board of Governors after being
a4vised as to
the views expressed at this meeting. The motion, as
841erided, was
to the following effect:
rl
"It is the sense of this meeting that the Board of
`4dovernors of the Federal Reserve System should make a
a finite
:
regulation, prescribing t21 or such other amount
ens:it:he Board of Governors may decide upon, for any one
'°mer in any month as the limit for trivial items,
Ilith
be
,.„August 1, 1945 as the uniform deadline for all memde
: uanks, and that the Board of Governors should eny_-vor to obtain the cooperation of the Federal Deposit
:4_11eurance Corporation along the same lines as to all non4enlber banks."
the information of the members of the Board, Messrs. McKee
rrill
reviewed in

Some

detail the high lights of the meeting and

randula with respect to the meeting and a list of the names of
th
4e who u
-:ere in attendance have been placed in the Board's files.
11041,(1 8

tha
te

14% Morri11 stated that, while the motion suggests that the

4111d make a "definite regulation", it was clearly understood

ILe f
'`c)rm in which the Board's action was to be taken was for deatioxi

the ellr

1.-5r It.

He also said that Mr. Robertson, Deputy Comptroller

tivo otti rencY, who had attended the meeting as the representative of
e had asked for an opportunity to go over any statement or




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-5tilling proposed to be issued by the Board.
At the conclusion of the discussion,
upon motion by Mr. Ransom, Mr. McKee was
requested, with the assistance of Messrs.
Morrill and Vest, to prepare the necessary
documents to carry out the action con—
templated by the motion adopted at the
Memphis meeting, it being understood that
Mr. Robertson of the Comptroller's Office
would be given an opportunity to make sug—
gestions with respect to the documents,
and that, before final action was taken
by the Board, Mr. McKee would discuss the
matter with the Chairman of the Federal
Deposit Insurance Corporation as contem—
plated by the motion.
For the information of the members of the Board, Chairman

Ecele

itade substantially the following statement with respect to
the Present
status of the proposed executive order relating to real
etate
r1c3rtgage credit:
otL The National Housing Agency and possibly some of the
orrr Government agencies which might be affected by the
atirer Would like to get certain exceptions written into
inyegulations that might be issued under the order and
norni;hat connection have been talking to Mr. Salant, Eco'
- e Adviser in the Office of Economic Stabilization. I
illerstood that Mr. Salant was working on a memorandum
at n Would express these views and would be, in effect,
Wo .ei14 t a tentative understanding of what it was expected
jezil
:be provided in the regulations that the Board might
' In that situation, and inasmuch as Mr. Davis, Di—
reciof Economic Stabilization, was out of the city, I
par.eu with Mr. Salant and learned that what he was pre—
as not a memorandum of the kind referred to but
be used by Mr. Davis in presenting the matter to
President of the United States so that he would be
NiCesident
Mr
informed as to just what was contemplated. I told
t04
;
-a-lant that I did not want the situation with respect
()ssible exemptions from the regulations to become

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-6?rYstalized, that I would object very strenuously to hayany exceptions written into the executive order, and
that, if the Board of Governors is to be responsible for
adchanistering the order, it would not want any prior uner tandings as to what the regulations were to contain,
eis at was expected that the regulations would be prepared
n°31,
-,1--owing consultations with interested agencies, both
'
'i.1.1 -ac and private and the Board would not want its hands
led in advance. The order is still in Mr. Davis' office
and has not
yet been presented to the President.

j

I talked to Mr. Vinson, Director of Mobilization
lalid Reconversion, yesterday about the matter and repeated
uhe
suggestion previously made that he, Mr. Davis, and I
8'
°111d get together and agree upon the statement that
flould be made to
the President, in which it could be
ide perfectly clear that the executive order is a part
0 a larger program
which, in addition to ltations
rarl
a real estate mortgage credit, contemplated increased
eaTn requirements and a strengthening of the tax on
th''Z'al gains. This statement should also make it clear
that, little can be
done in the credit field alone, that
ti ere Probably will be strong protest against the execu'
nov
te order by lending institutions, that the order should
ou be put into effect until after the President had disbessed the matter with Congressional leaders, and that,
de llse of the fact that it was not believed that a great
:
al - would be accomplished by regulating credit extensions
be'ne, the Board was not seeking the authority that would
nted by the proposed order, but that, if it were
theg,
the'
4-1a111 of the responsible officials of Government that
to cOrder should be issued, the Board would do its best
arrY out its provisions.

r

also
re
1.01et
:
,;, sst

with Mr. Vinson the question whether
of the executive order at this time might
clltb ei_bad timing in the light of the contemplated large
Illeht-,e,
s of war production with their resulting unemploy%Id
ch is bound to have a dampening effect on private
inrlatl
i
lg, on activity
in the securities' market, and the
Illark °flarY pressure on the farm and urban real estate
it
Inasmuch as the executive order is late anyway,
lori,,gut be better to let the matter stand for a few weeks
rl to determine more definitely whether there Is any
ecessity for its issuance.

rearl




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-7At this point Messrs. Vest and Wyatt withdrew from the meetg) and the
action stated with respect to each of the matters herein-

referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

Neraa
Reserve System held on June 7, 1945, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated June 6, 1945, from Mr. Thomas, Director of

the

Ivlsion of Research and Statistics, recommending that the followin
g
creases in basic annual salaries of employees in that Division

be

approved, effective at the beginning of the pay roll period followby the Board:
ligMe
,

i

Title

Lte, Marr

Nitner
?1,,,
an,_ ,
N,":,?-40Lri Kathryn Stevens
Loretta
-As) Aiice
L.

Clerk
Clerk
Clerk
Secretary

Salary Increase
From
To
$1,920
1,860
1,680
1,920

$2,100
2,000
1,800
2,100

Approved unanimously, effective June

16, 1945.
Iletnorandum dated Je
June 4, 1945, from Mr. Bethea, Director of
the tivisi
On of Administrative Services, recommending that the fol-

-4€ cre
ases in

E1104 be

basic annual salaries of employees in that Divi-

aPProved, effective June 16, 1945:
h
4"41`t IN. young

41411
tic)4-

1,
1413-

Title

GLindarnood
lotfelty, Jr.




Mechanical Superintendent
Operating Engineer
Operating Engineer

Approved unanimously.

Salary Increase
To
From

$3,200

$3,400

2,700
2,600

2,800
2,700

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Telegram to Mr. Davis, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
q St,
•
L°u1s, reading as follows:
"Reference membership application of Switz City Bank,
2witz City, Indiana. Advice receive today from
Federal
d
Posit Insurance Corporation that conditions set forth
In its letter of May
3, 1945, a copy of which accompanied
letter of May 4 relating to the application, have
bee
heen complied with. Accordingly, arrangements may now
ksT.Imade for completion of the bank's admission to memberullo In the System."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. A. G. Hauck, Manager, A. G. Hauck Company, Cinc1411tati n1,4
'-“4-43, reading as follows:
1011,"This is with reference to your letter of June 1,
fiL3 3 relative to Amendment No.
16 to Regulation W, efive June 11, 1945, which eliminated a provision which
Previously exempted loans secured by first liens on
-'Proved real estate duly recorde
d.
te,„ "The purpose of this amendment was to simplify the
of the regulation as it applies to home repairs and
"re'vements so that some work would not be subject to
riliiiere terms while other
work of the same kind was pertted to be
treated very liberally. In our opinion the
will have no important effect upon the total amount
notef:edit that can be obtained for this purpose and will
be "amPer the distribution of all the materials that will
thoel'ailable. In your own business of roofing and siding
gil,ce customers who could
not for one reason or another
18-4-ifY under the first lien exemption
can now be given
nicT:
ths instead of the former limit of twelve months.
Illat,'Furthermore, we believe
you will find that the elimi.114 °11 of the first lien exemption will not affect financc‘,"e much as it now appears to you. We suggest that
you
17-14Les the matter with the financi
al institution with
tilti,Y°u arrange your financing. Also, you or that instiof tl,11 illaY wish to communicate with the Cincinnati Branch
s4WIT Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland which has respon
:
--4Y for administration of Regulation W in your district."

hnt




Approved unanimously.

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Memorandum dated June 6, 1945, from Mr. Smead, Director of
the

D4 .

-Lvlsion of Bank Operations, reading as follows:
"Beginning in 1936, with Board approval, the Ameri—
can Bankers Association has been sending members of their
staff
each year to the Board's offices to copy our recapit—
ulation sheets (sample attached) showing annual earnings
,!statistics of State member banks, by size of bank and by
States. The same arrangements were made with the offices
1
()11 the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit
Corporation. The resulting ratios computed from
unese
these
data have been published in pamphlet form by the
j
B alc Management Commission of the ABA (1943 pamphlet at—
ached) under the title, 'Earnings and Expenses of all
.-LS.faITE14a1 Banks in
2:11
This
Luis year, presumably to eliminate the transporta—
ti
,°a involved and to save manpower, Mr. Melvin C. Miller,
'i'leacretary, and Mr. J. O. Brott, Assistant General Counsel,
tj! proposed in telephone conversations with this office
ik3_°Prow these sheets and photostat them. V:e understand
e.;',L the offices of the Comptroller and the FDIC are agree—
,
,
°-1
1 -..e to this proposal if similar arrangements are made at
va-1-1 three
offices.
jzaw. "In the case of State member banks, there are approx—
c„'elY 300 forms containing the desired data. In most
these forms represent totals, in thousands of dol—
p,f8, of three or more State member banks in the size
—our,
.)1.11 forms do not indicate the names of the indi01--)8L'al banks included in the totals. The ABA has always
mel7ved the restriction stated in the original arrange—
of not publishing figures for any size group contain—
3 than
three banks.
In the circumstances, there seems to be no objection
to
if tring these forms to the ABA to be photostated and,
e Board approves, we shall make the necessary arrange—

I

Approved unanimously.
Letter
to the Secretary of State reading as follows:
HI_
to be " our letter of May 25 on the subject of the trip
made by three Federal Reserve representatives to




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°Eur°Pe, Russia was included among the countries that we
ehed to have visited if possible. Subsequently we were
Informed that the inclusion of Russia would have to be
8Peoifically approved on the basis of a statement to be
e,bled to MOSCOW as to the particular purposes of the
71eit. The following is offered for that purpose:
The State Bank of the USSR is a correspondent of
the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York and maintains balances
with it. The
Federal Reserve Bank, which, under statutory
uth
orization, maintains such accounts with numerous cen41 banks, finds from experience that their operation
lacilitated by consultation in person with its corresP°11dents so that a closer understanding can be developed
.0
j1 both
sides as to the conditions affecting the transac„Ic)ne between them. It is for this purpose that we are
'174 a
rranging for visits to be made during the next few
,
eeks to other central banks of Europe by Dr. E. A.
L'41denweiser, Economic Adviser to the Board of Governors
id the Federal Reserve System, Mr. L. W. Knoke, Vice Presote t of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in charge
a,S Foreign Department, and Mr. Walter H. Rozell, an
bllstant to Mr. Knoke. We believe it would be helpful
o h to ourselves and to the Russian authorities if Dr.
tio-Ldenweiser, Mr.
Knoke, and Mr. Rozell might also visit
0t8:°w for interviews with the officers of the State Bank
ec Lhe USSR and with other state officials concerned with
ura
cT°Irtio and monetary relations between Russia and the
vlaj
'
,ed States; and we hope that the Russian authorities
gree that the interviews will be of mutual advantage.
t,
shall be obliged if the Department of State will
lltate the proposed visit of our representatives to
sla; and we sha3] be glad to furnish such additional
4"rmation as may be desired."

J

e

C

Approved unanimously.
lieraorandum dated June 75 1945, from Mr. Nelson, Assistant
)
14
e'Qtor of
the Division of Administrative Services, submitting a
tiel
'ill the
araount of $68.85 covering expenses incurred by Glenn
d114141, a
Federal Reserve Examiner in the Division of Examinations
trl
q00

-.11hection

with his trip to the Phil
• .
ippines pursuant to the Board's




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of April 5, 19452 and recommending that payment of the
Ir°11eher be approved.




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Chairman.