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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
was held in Washington on Friday, June 26, 1936, at 12:00 o'clock
noon.
PRESENT:

Mr. Eccles, Chairman
Mr. McKee
Mr. Davis
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

Consideration was given to each of the matters hereinafter referred
to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the Board:
Telegrams to Messrs. Kimball, Strater and Young, Secretaries of
the Federal Reserve Banks of New York, Cleveland and Chicago, respectively,
stating that the Board approves the establishment without change by the
New York bank on June 25, and by the Cleveland and Chicago banks today,
of the rates of discount and purchase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Walsh, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve
Bank of Dallas, reading as follows:
"Referring your June 22 letter and June 23 telegram,
Board approves appointment of G. C. Page as Acting Assistant
Federal Reserve Agent at El Paso at salary of $2,700 per
annum, effective July 1, 1936. It is assumed that Mr. Page's
present surety bond in the amount of $50,000 will be continued."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. H. D. Vaughan, Cashier, The First National Bank,
Keystone, West Virginia, reading as follows:
"Your letter of June 1, 1936, addressed to the Comptroller of the Currency, has been referred to this Board
for reply.
"Such regulations as are in effect concerning loans by
banks for the purpose of purchasing or carrying stocks registered on a national securities exchange are incorporated in




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"the Board's Regulation U, a copy of which is inclosed herewith
for your information.
"You will observe that the regulation does not apply to
loans made prior to May 1, 1936, even if the proceeds thereof were used for the purpose of purchasing or carrying registered stocks, nor to the collateral securing them unless it
also secures another loan made on or after that date which
is subject to the regulation. The loan to which you refer
in your letter and its collateral appear to be in this
category unless the situation is changed by the fact that
when stock is sold the note is not reduced but the proceeds
of the sale are used to purchase a cashier's check of the
bank which in turn is pledged to secure the loan, and subsequently the cashier's check is used to buy stock registered
on a national securities exchange. Under such circumstances
however, it would not appear that a new loan has been made
for the designated purpose, and consequently the provisions
of Regulation U do not apply.
"In passing, it is noted that the particular customer
to whom you refer buys and sells the stocks in your name and
in this connection it is suggested that consideration be
given to Section III(g) of the interpretative rulings of the
Comptroller of the Currency made with respect to section 5136,
U. S. R. S. These interpretative rulings were issued on
February 15, 1936 and for your convenience a copy of them is
also inclosed with this letter.
"If you have any further questions regarding Regulation
U it is believed that it will be more convenient for you to
communicate first with the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
whose officers will be glad to answer your questions."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. McRae, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston, reading as follows:
"In reviewing the report of examination of the trust
department of 'Union Trust Company of Springfield, Massachusetts', as of February 8, 1936, it is noted that your
examiner criticizes the bank's practices with respect to
switching participations in single real estate loans between
trusts, i.e., the sale of such participations from one
trust to another.
"As you know, such bank's condition of membership numbered 17, relating to the collective investment of trust
funds, reads as follows:




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"'Except with the permission of the Federal Reserve Board, such bank shall not, after the date
of its admission to membership, invest the funds
of various trusts held by the bank in participations in pools of mortgage bonds or other securities, and the funds of all such trusts shall be
invested separately from each other; provided,
however, that the Federal Reserve Board will not
object to the collective investment of small
amounts of trust funds where the cash balances to
the credit of certain trust estates are too small
to be invested separately to advantage, if the
bank owns no participation in the securities in
which such collective investments are made and has
no interest in them except as trustee or other
fiduciary.'
"Such condition is similar to the present standard condition of membership numbered 5, with respect to which Regulation H, in footnote 13, states:
'This does not prevent a bank from investing
the funds of several trusts in a single real estate
loan of the kind which could be made by a national
bank under the provisions of section 24 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, if the bank owns no
participation in the loan and has no interest
therein except as trustee or other fiduciary.'
"The investment of trust funds in participations purchased
from other trusts is, of course, subject to the same restrictions as the original investment of trust funds in such
participations. As pointed out by your examiner, the switching
of participations in single real estate loans in which the bank
owns participations is in violation of the above-quoted condition of membership. Moreover, it appears that the bank has
switched participations in loans which, at the time of such
transaction, were not of the kind which a national bank might
make under the provisions of section 24 of the Federal Reserve
Act.
"Like any other investment of trust funds in such obligations, the switching of participations in obligations of the
bank's directors, officers, employees or their affiliations
or corporations affiliated with the bank, as mentioned in the
report of examination of this bank as of May 11, 1935, is in
violation of the bank's condition of membership numbered 16,
which reads as follows:
'Such bank shall not, after the date of its admission to membership, invest trust funds held by
it in obligations of the bank's directors, officers,
employees or their affiliations or corporations
affiliated with the bank.'




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"Even though the transaction does not violate a condition of membership, assets of one trust should not be sold
to another unless such assets constitute a proper investment for funds of the purchasing trust. Moreover, it is felt
that a bank should, in any event, exercise particular care
in selling assets of one trust to another since it is
essential that the transaction not be to the disadvantage of
either trust. In this connection, attention is called to the
following statement contained in the American Law Institute's
Restatement of the Law of Trusts, Volume 1, section 170:
'q. Duty of trustee under separate trusts.
Where the trustee is trustee of two trusts if
he enters into a transaction involving dealing
between the two trusts, he must justify the
transaction as being fair to each trust. If
the circumstances are such that the interests
of the beneficiaries of the different trusts
are so conflicting that the trustee cannot
deal fairly with respect to both trusts, he
cannot properly act without applying to the
court for instructions.'
"It has also been noted that the trust department has
agency and corporate trust cash on deposit in the banking
department of the bank and, in this connection, reference is
made to the Board's letter to Mr. Curtiss of January 17, 1936,
in regard to a similar situation in the case of The Union Trust
Company of Boston. The views expressed therein are applicable
to other State member banks which are subject to a condition
of membership requiring that collateral be pledged with the
trust department to secure trust funds deposited in the
trustee's own banking department.
"The matter of deposits of trust cash in non-member uninsured banks will be taken up in a separate letter at a later
date."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. McRae, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the FedReserve Bank of Boston, reading as follows:
"Consideration has been given to your letter of June
8, 1936, and inclosures with reference to the applicability
of section 32 of the Banking Act of 1933 to the service of
Mr. Edward F. Breed as a director of Security Trust Company,
Lynn, Massachusetts, a member bank, and as a director and
officer of Loomis, Sayles & Company, Inc., Loomis-Sayles Mutual
Fund, Inc., and Loomis-Sayles Second Fund, Inc.




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"The information submitted indicates that the only
factor which might make section 32 applicable is the sale
of the stock of Loomis-Sayles Second Fund, Inc., an investment trust organized in December 1934. In this
connection, careful consideration has been given to the
opinion of your counsel, which you inclosed, in which he
states that, bearing in mind the nature and purpose of the
organization, which is simply an investment trust, and the
fact that an organization of this type depends upon the
issuance of stock as a normal method of replenishing its
capital, and also the fact that the shares are sold at a
determined liquidating value without other profit to the
organizations involved except the management fee charged by
Loomis, Sayles and Company, Inc., he believes that it may
be reasonably inferred that Loomis-Sayles Second Fund, Inc.,
is not primarily engaged in the 'issue, flotation, underwriting, public sale, or distribution' of its own securities within the meaning of section 32. Mr. Breed makes a
similar argument when he suggests that the sale of the
shares is merely the sale of 'apiece of investment counsel'
in the form of a participation in a portfolio of investments managed by Loomis, Sayles & Company, Inc.
"However, as stated in its letter of October 26, 1934
(X-8097), the Board has found that in some cases the nature
and extent of the activities of such investment trusts in
connection with dealing in their own securities have been
such as to become a factor in determining the applicability
of section 52 to them; and upon further consideration it
does not believe that it should modify this position.
"Accordingly, the Board believes that it cannot determine the applicability of section 32 in this case without
having information showing the extent of the present
activity in connection with the sale of the stock of LoomisSayles Second fund, Inc., since it appears that the sale of
such shares might involve a situation of the kind contemplated
by section 52.
"You refer in your letter to the difficulty which Mr.
Breed anticipates in furnishing detailed statistical information bearing upon the applicability of section 32 in this
case; but most of the information described in the Board's
letter of October 26, 1934 (X-8097) is contained in the inclosures which accompanied your letter, and it would seem
that Mr. Breed might not have difficulty in furnishing the
remaining information, namely, the number of shares already
sold, the number of shares still to be sold, and the degree
of activity in connection with such sale at the present time."




Approved unanimously.




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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.