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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

June 22, 1966

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
You were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane
Gov. Maisel
Gov. Brimmer

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Wednesday, June 22, 1966.

The Board met in the Board

Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Robertson, Vice Chairman
Mitchell 1/
Maisel
Brimmer
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Broida, Assistant Secretary
Bakke, Assistant Secretary
Young, Senior Adviser to the Board and
Director, Division of International Finance
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Brill, Director, Division of Research and
Statistics
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Hexter, Associate General Counsel
Messrs. O'Connell, Shay, and Hooff, Assistant
General Counsel
Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Sprecher, Assistant Director, Division of
Personnel Administration
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Messrs. Forrestal and Sanders, Senior Attorneys,
Legal Division
Mr. Collier, Assistant to the Director, Division
of Bank Operations
Mr. Egertson, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations
Approved items.

The following items were approved unanimously

4fter consideration of background information that had been made avail1:11e to the Board.

Copies are attached under the respective numbers

d icated.

Withdrew from meeting at point indicated in minutes.

6/22/66

-2Item No.

Letter to Bankers Trust Company, Des Moines,
Iowa, approving an investment in bank premises.

1

Letter to Smackover State Bank, Smackover,
Arkansas, waiving the requirement of six
months notice of withdrawal from membership
xn the Federal Reserve System.

2

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
approving the payment of salaries to David
Baldwin and Jeffrey J. Wells at the rates fixed
by the Bank's Board of Directors.

3

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
approving the payment of salaries to F. Garland
Russell, Jr., as Assistant Counsel and Assistant
Secretary, and to Woodrow W. Gilmore and Leonall C.
Andersen as
Vice Presidents, at the rates fixed by
the Bank's Board of Directors.

4

Reports on competitive factors.

Reports to the Comptroller of

the Currency on the competitive factors involved in the following proPosed mergers or similar transactions were approved unanimously for
transmittal to the Comptroller in a form in which the conclusions were
stated as follows:
,
11Terger of The First National Bank of Ulster,
ulster, Pennsylvania, into The First National
Sank of Towanda Towanda Pennsylvania
While a small amount of competition exists between The First
1\lational Bank of Ulster and The First National Bank of Towanda,
overall competitive effects of the proposed merger are not
viewed as adverse.

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Purchase of assets and assumption of liabilities
of Bank of Richland, Richland, Washington, by
Old National Bank of Washin ton S okane Washin ton
There appears to be little, if any, competition existing
between Bank of Richland and Old National Bank of Washington,
Spokane, a subsidiary of Old National Corporation, Spokane, a
registered bank holding company. Consummation of the proposal
would eliminate the only locally headquartered bank in Richland
resulting in the community being served by offices of three
large banks.
Mr. Egertson then withdrew from the meeting.
Requests to maintain reduced reserves (Items 5-7).

At its

meeting on January 7, 1966, the Board denied requests by City National
Bank, Beverly Hills, California, and United States National Bank, San
Diego, California, for permission to continue to carry reduced reserves
following establishment by each bank of a new branch located within
the city limits of Los Angeles.

However, the Board agreed to allow

both banks an adjustment period of six months, which would make July 7,
1966, the beginning of a reserve computation period, the effective date
f°r carrying reserves at the level required of reserve city banks.
There had been circulated a memorandum dated June 10, 1966,
from the Division of Bank Operations regarding requests received through
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco for deferment of the effective
date of the reserve increase for City National Bank and for reconsiderati°n of the Board's decision regarding United States National Bank.
The

latter bank also requested an opportunity to discuss the matter with

the Board before any increase in its reserves was required, and a request

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for such a discussion had likewise been received from the bank's
Washington counsel.
The San Francisco Reserve Bank recommended that the Board
approve continuance of the reduced reserve privilege for both banks;
indefinitely for United States National, and until actual establishment
of the downtown office, scheduled for January 1967, for City National.
The Division of Bank Operations noted that the latest available
information indicated that City National Bank had demand deposits of
about $115 million and United States National of about $135 million,
While the smallest Los Angeles bank in the reserve city category (Union
Bank) had demand deposits of $605 million.

The Division also pointed

out that the Board previously (in 1963) had given two New York City
banks having demand deposits of $122 million and $131 million, respectively, permission to carry reduced reserves.

City National stated

that, when its new downtown branch opened in January 1967, it intended
to

offer competition to other downtown Los Angeles banks and that it

would then expect to carry reserves at the level required of reserve
citY banks, but it believed its competitive ability until that time was
insignificant.

United States National stated that it was still predom-

inantly engaged in business similar to that of a non-reserve city bank,

that .

it would not be in competition with reserve city banks in Los

geles for at least three or four years, and that its downtown office
l/as not presently equipped to handle more than deposits and loan application

After consideration of this information and the comments of

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the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, the Division of Bank Operations recommended that the Board reaffirm its decisions of last January
denying permission to carry reduced reserves but that the effective
date for requiring the higher level be deferred in each case until
July 6, 1967 (the beginning of a reserve computation period).
Governor Brimmer expressed the view that the Board should not
appear to be vacillating in regard to the policy issue.

If it had made

uP its mind that the banks were becoming reserve city banks because of
the character of their business and their competitive position, it should
reiterate that view and make it clear that any extensions of time for
conformance were only a matter of convenience.
Governor Robertson commented that he did not regard the pending
requests as reopening the policy issue.

It was settled that when the

character of a bank's business at offices located in a reserve city
brought it into active competition with other reserve city banks, it
became a reserve city bank subject to reserve requirements at the level
for such banks.

However, in these particular cases the banks thus far

had a relatively small volume of business of the type that characterized
reserve city banking, and the deferral of time for compliance with the
higher reserve requirement seemed reasonable as giving the banks an
°PPortunity for orderly adjustment to a competitive posture in their
'lel,/ status.

6/22/66

-6After further discussion, letters to the San Francisco Reserve

Bank and to the member banks were approved unanimously in the form
attached as Items 5-7.
Regulations Q and D.

At the meeting on June 20, 1966, there

14as a general understanding that upon completion of the analysis of a
recent survey of time and savings deposits the Board would consider
What actions, if any, should be taken on certain proposals that had been
discussed concerning interest rates and reserves on time deposits.
Governor Robertson now requested that action be taken--whether
affirmative or negative--on several questions that he mentioned relating to Regulation Q, Payment of Interest on Deposits, and Regulation D,
Reserves of Member Banks.

His questions were stated as follows, in a

distributed memorandum of June 20:
1. Whether reserve requirements should be raised
from 4 per cent to 6 per cent on time deposits other than
savings deposits, to the extent that the combined total
of time plus savings deposits at any bank exceeds $5
million, as proposed in Governor Robertson's memorandum
to the Board of June 6, 1966.
2. Whether the maximum permissible rate payable
on time deposits maturing in less than 90 days should
be lowered. (Governor Robertson now suggested that the
rate to be considered should be 4 per cent--the same
maximum rate as fixed for savings deposits--for time
deposits maturing in less than 60 days, and a 4-1/2 per
cent rate for those maturing in between 60 and 90 days.)
3. Whether promissory notes should be defined as
deposits, in accordance with the most recent proposal
made by Mr. Hackley.

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4. Whether the penalty provision for payment of a
time deposit before maturity should be increased, or
whether payment before maturity should be prohibited
altogether.
5. Whether multiple maturities on time deposits
should be prohibited, including whether automatic renewal
should be prohibited, should be limited to one renewal,
or should be authorized only on instruments bearing a
maturity of not less than 90 days.
6. Whether "guaranteed" rates of interest on outstanding time deposit contracts should be subject to any
reduction in the maximum rate permitted by Regulation Q,
if and when amended.
There had also been distributed a memorandum from Mr. Hackley
dated June 20, 1966, with which were submitted drafts of amendments to
Regulations D and Q that would implement several of Governor Robertson's
numbered suggestions; also attached were two previous memoranda from
Hackley that contained discussions pertinent to the remaining suggestions.
In introductory remarks at today's meeting Chairman Martin
stated that in the absence of two members of the Board, if there was
disagreement among the five who were present as to the proper course
to take, he would be in favor of postponing a decision unless the issues
Were considered so urgent as to necessitate action.

The views of

Governor Mitchell were then solicited, inasmuch as he expected to have
to

leave the meeting shortly to keep another appointment.
Governor Mitchell stated that his first choice would be to do

nothing.

However, since it appeared possible that some action would

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be necessary, he had been trying to assemble a package of measures that
might be appropriate.

He was inclined toward defining time deposits by

limiting them to several specific categories--passbook savings; savings
certificates with a maturity of not less than 90 days and renewable for
not less than 90 days, which would be eligible for purchase only by
individuals; savings discount bonds with maturities and renewals of not
less than a year, also available only to individuals, and having the
Present privilege, or some modification of it, of pre-maturity payment
in case of hardship; and negotiable certificates of deposit or open
book time accounts, to which the present specification of not less than
30 days' maturity would apply, available to the same buyers as at
Present, but with no provision for optional maturities or automatic
renewals.

To provide some deterrent to the flow of funds into negotia-

ble certificates of deposit, a limitation might be placed on the amounts
of such certificates or a special reserve requirement might be placed
against them.

While he questioned the desirability of setting reserve

requirements for time deposits at a different level from those for savings deposits, he believed such a procedure preferable to an amount limitation.

Governor Mitchell thought a package such as he had outlined

would be reasonably orderly, and it also might help with some of the
difficulties that had been experienced in regard to names of instruments
alld advertising.

His inclination was to rely on differing maturities

411d to specify buyers who would be eligible, but to leave maximum rates

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of interest undisturbed.

He believed the Board had authority to adopt

such a package, although that point would need the Legal Division's
verification.
Governor Mitchell also observed that he would not now be inclined
toward action to bring promissory notes within the definition of deposits; in his view, such instruments presently were providing a needed
Safety

valve.
After an exchange of comments during which Governor Mitchell

c larified various provisions of his suggestions, Governor Maisel
inquired as to the Board's legal authority to implement the proposals.
Mr. Hackley responded that the Board had for many years defined
savings deposits in terms of the nature of depositor, but he was not
certain that this would be a valid precedent for defining time deposits
Other than savings in similar terms.

While the Legal Division had not

gone deeply into the matter, his own initial reaction was one of reservations as to propriety.

The principle underlying the limitation of

savings deposits essentially to individuals was that such deposits were
for thrift purposes and were permitted to bear interest, even though in
Practice, despite the reserved right of banks to require 30 days' notice
of withdrawal, they were payable on demand.

He added that the Board

clearly had authority to define time deposits according to maturity, as
it did at present, and this authority could be utilized to provide, for
example, that in order to qualify for this status a deposit must have a
Maturity of at least 60 or 90 days, instead of the present 30-day definition.

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-10Governor Mitchell stated that he was not inclined to press his

Proposal if there was any substantial question as to the legal authority
for it.

His preference was to leave maximum permissible rates of inter-

est alone and to have a minimum of disturbance of banking practices.
He believed that the survey of time and savings deposits proved that a
considerable amount of negotiable certificates of deposit of less than
400,000 denomination had come into existence and that discount bonds
were fairly important in a few districts.
In response to a request by Chairman Martin that he elaborate
°n his view in regard to promissory notes, Governor Mitchell indicated
that he had at first believed that the Board should not attempt to
include that instrument in the definition of deposits.

Subsequently,

he had switched his view, but now, after the long deliberations the
Board had had in regard to possible difficulties of such a definition
and the evolution of the proposed definition from a simple one to a
ccmiplexity of exceptions, he had returned to his original view that such
a definitional approach was wrong.

He believed that the issuance of

Promissory notes offered an escape from the bind of circumstances that
it would be desirable to permit.

Banks were paying close to the maximum

rates of interest anyway, and if any bank needed a safety valve he would
rather see such an avenue of escape used than to see the maximum permissible interest rate raised above 5-1/2 per cent.

However, if a satis-

factory definition could be devised that would encompass only promissory
notes, he probably could go along with it as part of a package.

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-11Governor Maisel said that he would be sympathetic with Governor

Mitchell's proposal for defining time deposits, if there was legal
authority for it, since he thought it would carry with it the right to
set a separate maximum rate of interest on funds covered under the sayconcept.

If this proved to be the case, it would seem

logical to put a 5 per cent ceiling on certificates of the consumerSavings type.
Reverting to Governor Robertson's suggestion that a maximum
rate of 4 per cent be fixed for time deposits maturing in less than 60
days and a rate of 4-1/2 per cent for those maturing in between 60 and
90 days, Governor Maisel commented that if such an action were taken

he would be willing to go along with the deposit definition that would
illclude promissory notes, because he thought they would develop into a
large scale problem if such rates were adopted.
Governor Brimmer suggested that no action be taken at the
moment; Governor Robertson's memorandum had assumed that the analysis
°f the survey of time and savings deposits would be available by now in
4 form that the Board could study with a view to publication, and that
any actions by the Board would be taken in the light of the survey find5.

Although the Board had had a preliminary briefing on staff

imPressions of the survey, which had been followed by suggestions by
some of the Board members for refinement of certain points, no finished
Product had been placed before the Board with an analysis looking toward

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Policy actions.

He also stated that he was not interested in action

for action's sake; some real issues were involved, and the survey
results should cast some light on the problem.

Governor Brimmer reserved

judgment as to the proposals that had been offered during this meeting.
Perhaps in another day or two the issues could be stated more clearly,
an analysis of the survey could be made available, and more members of
the Board could participate in the discussion.

He was firmly of the

view that whatever action was taken, it should stand against the survey
findings as a background.
Governor Maisel thought that today's discussion should be helpful in clarifying the questions at issue.

In his view, there were

three issues--one on interest rates, a second on whether the problem of
certificates of deposit was a monetary policy problem, and a third on
th

question of separating savings deposits from time deposits according

to maturity.

He believed these were three distinct questions, each

deserving separate consideration.
Governor Brimmer stated that in his mind the critical issue in

the present environment, and the one with the highest priority, was the
question of interest rates.

The questions concerning certificates of

dePosit and maturities were less urgent.
th

However, he did not believe

Board should take action on any of the issues today.
Chairman Martin stated that he, too, doubted that these issues

were of sufficient urgency to require action now.

He would prefer that

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the Board study the problem further, and he hoped there would develop
greater agreement among the members of the Board than there appeared to
be at present.

He recognized that others might disagree with that

view, and if a majority of the Board thought there was a burning issue
of monetary policy, with respect to which it was vital that action be
taken now or in the next couple of days, he thought the members were
entitled to vote accordingly.

However, his own position was quite

clear; in view of the absence of two members of the Board, and in the
light of the evident divergence of opinion among the five members
Present, he believed that no action should be taken at this time.

Care-

ful thought should be given to the posture of the Board, since feeling
was running high in parts of the financial community and any action
taken

was bound to attract a good deal of attention.

Furthermore, while

there was
uncertainty as to what might happen in the way of shifts of
funds from savings and loan associations following the midyear dividend
date,

it was his guess that there would not be a critical problem in

this regard.
The discussion then turned to questions of procedure, during
/4hich Governor Maisel said he felt strongly that the Board should confer with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation when a majority view
Of the Board in favor of action relating to Regulation Q appeared to
have been developed, rather than waiting until definite action had been
taken by the Board.

The Corporation had a similar regulation, as to

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which it probably would take parallel action, but its views should be
heard while any decision by the Board was still in the making.
Ensuing staff comments indicated that the FDIC survey of time
and savings deposits, similar to that conducted by the Board, was still
in process and it seemed unlikely that the announcement of its results
could be coordinated with the announcement of the Board's survey findings.
In this connection, Governor Mitchell commented that he had not
Closed his mind to the possibility of action relating to interest rates,
but at the present time he saw no compelling reason to interfere with
market forces through monetary policy.

When the survey analysis was

available, it should make possible a clearer view.
Governor Mitchell also believed that one of the difficulties in
d

eciding what course of action to follow was the lack of information

tegarding the degree to which banks were planning to accelerate their
Promotional advertising for funds between now and the end of June.

It

Might be possible for the Reserve Banks to obtain information as to such
Plans of banks.
There was agreement that the Reserve Bank Presidents be asked
to be prepared to comment on such advertising plans when they were in
Washington for next week's meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee.
In supplementation of the proposals that he had presented earlier
in

this discussion, Governor Robertson commented that the preliminary

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results of the survey of time and savings deposits suggested that large
banks had been using purchased funds for the purpose of escaping the
restrictiveness of monetary policy.

If this were the case, an increase

in reserve requirements applicable to time and savings deposits above
$5 million at each bank would increase the effectiveness of monetary
P°1icy and put a little more restraint in the credit area where he felt
it was needed, namely, on the larger institutions.

Governor Robertson

also suggested that if rates on certificates of deposit of less than
60 days were limited to 4 per cent and those in between 60 to 90 days
tO 4-1/2 per cent, that would be a step toward gearing rates to maturities, which he considered sound.

The two actions he suggested would

indicate that the Board was aware of the problem and was trying to deal
with it; they would press banks to rely on asset liquidity rather than
liability liquidity and thus promote effectiveness of monetary policy.
Another possible result might be to ward off enactment of recent legislative proposals that he considered unwise.
The question of promissory notes, Governor Robertson continued,
was raised as soon as rate differentials were introduced on certificates
°f deposit of less than 90 days' maturity.

He would like to see the

Board act on the deposit definition that would encompass promissory
notes.

Since the majority of the Board apparently would be willing to

accept such a provision if it was directed specifically at the promiss°tY note type of instrument, he suggested adding to the most recent

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draft of amendment submitted by Mr. Hackley an exception for repurchase
agreements.

(The draft of amendment attached to Mr. Hackley's memoran-

dum of June 20, 1966, would provide that "the term 'deposits' shall be
deemed to include any promissory note, acknowledgement of advance, due
bill, or similar instrument that is issued by a member bank primarily
as a means of obtaining funds to be used in its banking business,
except any such instrument (1) that is issued to another bank, or (2)
that has an original maturity of more than two years and is subordinated
to the claims of depositors.")
As to his fourth question, whether the penalty provision for
Payment of a time deposit before maturity should be increased or
whether
payment before maturity should be prohibited altogether, Governor Robertson felt that if a deposit was to qualify as a time deposit
it should have a fixed maturity, with no prepayment provision.

The

lack of provision for prepayment might discourage interest rate acceleration

and should have strong psychological effects.
Governor Robertson's fifth question was whether multiple matu-

rities on time deposits should be prohibited.

This included considera-

tion as to whether automatic renewals should be prohibited, should be
limited to one renewal, or should be authorized only on instruments
bearing a maturity of not less than 90 days.

The last-named alterna-

tive seemed to him adequate.
Governor Robertson had doubts as to the sixth question he had
raised as to whether "guaranteed" rates of interest on outstanding

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time deposit contracts should be subject to any reduction in the maximum
rate permitted by Regulation Q, if and when amended.

If banks attempted

to enter into contracts with a term of 5 or 6 years, he doubted that
they should be protected from their own folly.
Governor Mitchell expressed the view that the suggested actions
would have a more restrictive effect than Governor Robertson intended,
and that in addition safety valves would be lacking.
The latter responded that the discount window would provide a
safety valve, and one that could be controlled by using it for its
intended purpose, namely, to price funds rather than to let the entire
Pricing function be performed in the market.
After further exchanges of comments in which Governors Robertson
and Mitchell explored the merits of the several proposals, Governor
Maisel expressed the view that Governor Robertson's first suggestion
of action to increase reserve requirements on time deposits could be
se parated from the others.

He thought it involved a question of mone-

tary policy of the traditional kind on which the Board might act
se parately.

He also suggested that it would be helpful to see drafts

of amendments to Regulations Q and D that would implement the other
Proposals discussed during this meeting.
After further comments by members of the Board and staff regarding the impact of actions taken and proposed on money markets and on the
banking community, discussion turned to the timing of a release covering

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the survey of interest rates on savings and time deposits, as well as
to the timing of possible Board action along the lines of the discussion at this meeting.

The discussion concluded with a request that the

staff present for the Board's consideration later this week a draft of
statement

in the hope that an announcement regarding the survey might

be released within the next few days.
Governor Mitchell withdrew from the meeting at this point.
Messrs. Young, Brill, Hexter, O'Connell, Shay, Hooff, Daniels, Forrestal,
Sanders,
and Collier also withdrew.
Natural disaster insurance (Item No. 8).

There had been distrib-

uted a memorandum dated June 16, 1966, from the Division of Examinations
regarding an inquiry from the Department of Housing and Urban Developrelating to the possibility of providing Federal insurance against
certain natural disasters in order that occupants of the areas affected
might have the means for their own rehabilitation and thus reduce the
lieed for reliance on public assistance.

The memorandum, which was

acc°mpanied by a draft reply to the Department, summarized background
illc)rmation and commented briefly on replies of the Federal Reserve
4flks to the Board's solicitation of their views on eight questions
Pc)sed by the Department.
Following brief discussion, during which a number of changes
°f an editorial nature were suggested in the proposed reply, a letter
was a
—.P.2.112LT1 unanimously in the form attached as Item No. 8.

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-19Messrs. Molony, Cardon, and Leavitt then withdrew from the

meeting.
Officer salaries (Buffalo Branch).
4

There had been distributed

memorandum dated June 16, 1966, in which the Division of Personnel

Administration
described certain changes in the official staff of the
Buffalo Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and presented
the Bank's request for the Board's approval of payment of salaries to
the officers concerned at rates fixed by the Bank's Board of Directors.
Various questions were raised during discussion as to the
appropriateness of the salaries contemplated, and there was unanimous
emet with a suggestion that these questions be explored with
Pre
sldent Hayes of the Bank at an early opportunity, after which the
matter would be considered further by the Board.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: A letter was sent today
to Bank of America National Trust and Savings
Association, San Francisco, California, extending to February 1, 1967, the time for establishment of a branch in Calcutta, India. (A letter
of July 14, 1964, had acknowledged the bank's
notice of intent to establish this branch and
a letter of July 30, 1965, had extended to
August 1, 1966, the time for its establishment.)
A letter was also sent today to Bank of America
National Trust and Savings Association extending
to July 1, 1967, the time for establishment of
branches in New Delhi and Madras, India. (Letters
of July 2, 1965, had acknowledged the bank's notice
of intent to establish these branches.)

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-20Acting in the absence of Governor Shepardson,
Governor Robertson approved on behalf of the
Board on June 21, 1966, the following items:

. Letter to Mr. Swan, Chairman of the Executive Committee of the
Ketirement
System of the Federal Reserve Banks, suggesting the appointment of E. J. Johnson, Director of the Board's Division of Personnel
Adm
inistration, as associate member of the Retirement Committee of the
Re tirement System, to replace H. F. Sprecher, Jr.
. Memorandum from Guy R. De Carlo, Economist, Division of International Finance, requesting permission to teach a course in Economics
at the University of Maryland.
Acting in the absence of Governor Shepardson,
Governor Robertson today approved on behalf
of the Board a memorandum from the Division of
Personnel Administration recommending acceptance of the resignation of H. F. Sprecher, Jr.,
Assistant Director of that Division, effective
the close of business July 15, 1966, with
retirement effective July 16, 1966.

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Item No. 1
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

June 22, 1966

Board of Directors,
Bankers Trust Company,
Des Moines, Iowa.
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 24A of
the Federal Reserve Act, the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System approves an investment in bank
Premises of an amount not to exceed $285,000 by Bankers
Trust Company, Des Moines, Iowa, for the purpose of
constructing a building for the Merle Hay Parking Lot
Office.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke

Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

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Item No. 2
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS orriciAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

June 22, 1966

Board of Directors,
Smackover State Bank,
Smackover,
Arkansas.
Gentlemen:
The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis has forwarded to
the Board of Governors a letter dated June 7, 1966, signed by
President Max A. Mitcham, together with the accompanying
resolution,
!ignifying your intention to withdraw from membership in the Federal
asserve System and requesting waiver of the six months' notice of
such withdrawal.
The Board of Governors waives the requirement of six months'
notice of withdrawal. Under the provisions of section 208.10(c) of
the Board's Regulation H,
your institution may accomplish termination
of its membership at any time within eight months from the date that
notice of intention to withdraw from membership was given. Upon
surrender
to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis of the Federal
serve Bank stock issued to your institution, such stock will be
cancelled and appropriate refund will be made thereon.
It is requested that the certificate of membership be returned
t° the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.
If your bank is desirous of continuing deposit insurance after
withdrawal from membership
in the Federal Reserve System, it will be
i_ e
cessary that application be made to the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Karl E. Bakke

Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

Item No. 3
6/22/66

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, O. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE •OARD

June 22, 1966
TIJFR
!r. Harold T. Patterson, President,
rederal Reserve Bank of Atlanta,
Atlanta, Georgia. 30303
bear Mr. Patterson:
The Board of Governors approves the payment of salaries to
the
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, for the
Pe .Loilowing officers of the
July 1 through December 31, 1966, at rates indicated, which are
tulle fixed by your Board of Directors, as reported in your letter of
:
44ne 10.

Name
Head Office
David Baldwin

Annual
Salary

Title

Assistant Vice President

$16,000

Assistant Vice President

16,000

la.E.
.
11
1 Ytlle Branch
Jeffrey J. Wells

ran"L
."..11 2

The Board notes that Mr. Leo Starr
will retire on June 30.

Cashier at the Nashville

Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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Item No. 4
6/22/66

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, O. C. UM
ADORERS ornaiAL CORMEOPONOIENCE
TO THE ISOARO

June 22, 1966
C°I4FIDEN IAL
Xr. Darryl R. Francis, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
St, Louis, Missouri. 63166
Dear Mr. Francis:
The Board of Governors has approved the payment of salary to
icers of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis listed below, for the
period July 1 through December 31, 1966, at the following rates fixed
°Y your Board of Directors, as reported in your letter of June 13.
Off

Name
Woodrow W. Gilmore
Leonall C. Andersen

Annual
Salary

Title
Vice President
Vice President

$20,000
20,000

• The Board has noted the appointment of Mr. F. Garland
.
Itua
:e-1-12 Jr. as an Assistant Secretary, effective June 15, in addition
current assignment as Assistant Counsel at his current salary of
"
3,000, as reported in your letter of June 9.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No. 5
6/22/66

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS

orriciAL

CORRESPONDENCE

TO THE BOARD

June 22, 1966
1.?'
1
A. B. Merritt, Vice President,
rederal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
San Francisco, California. 94120.
lear Mr. Merritt:
This refers to your letters of
re
,,quests from the United States National
,":"*.tY National Bank, Beverly Hills, for a
°°ard's action outlined in its letter of
BOa

May 31, 1966, transmitting
Bank, San Diego, and the
reconsideration of the
January 10, 1966.

After reconsideration of the information submitted, the

3 ru finds no reason to change the position taken in its letters of

fluarY 10, 1966, advising the banks that permission to carry reduced
4itserves
would not be granted. The Board has decided, however, that
42411 not be necessary for the banks to maintain reserves at the
level
required of other reserve city banks until the reserve computation
14!0d beginning July 6, 1967, instead of the earlier date of July 7,
bank' Please forward the enclosed letters addressed to the subject
s; copies are enclosed for your file.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

4'el°sures

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
ofcch:,.
4' •

Item No. 6
6/22/66

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

orh

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

Stt*

June 22, 1966
Board of Directors,
United States National Bank,
San Diego, California. 92101.
Ge
ntlemen:
This refers to the request from your bank, submitted through
the _
Reserve Bank of San Francisco, for reconsideration of
the
Board's action outlined in its letter of January 10, 1966, denying
Your
application for permission to carry reduced reserves.
anbmitt , After further review of this matter in light of the information
eu in your letter, the Board reaffirms the position taken in
letter of January 10, 1966, but will postpone until the reserve
m:ZPutation period beginning July 6, 1967, the date for your bank to
ntain reserves at the level required of other reserve city banks.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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Item No. 7
6/22/66

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
AOOREBB OFFICIAL CORRE•PONOENCE
TO THE SOAR°

June 22, 1966
Board of Directors,
CitY National Bank,
Beverly Hills, California.
Ge
ntlemen:
This refers to the request from your bank, submitted
through
rough the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, for a
reconsideration of the date on which increased reserve requirements
llould be effective.
After further review of this matter in light of the
rmation submitted in your letter, the Board is agreeable to a
1 tPonement until the reserve computation period beginning
P
tnY 62 1967, of the date for your bank to maintain reserves at
level required of other reserve city banks. It is understood
0 at this date would be about six months after the expected
Pening of a downtown Los Angeles office.

info

Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No. 8
6/22/66

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 6, 1966.

Marion Clawson, Director,
Studies of
Natural Disasters,
Office of Program Policy,
be
partment of Housing and Urban Development,
Washington,
D. C. 20410.
t'ear Mr. Clawson:
Your letter of May 19, 1966, presented certain background
info__
ins umation about the possibility of a program of voluntary flood
cl:rance and asked for the Board's comments on eight questions. The
c_stions contained in your letter and answers thereto, based in part upon
vmments received from the Federal Reserve Banks, are set forth below.
1.
Are lenders under your supervision more restrictive in the terms
Of
fi
nancing and in credit standards in the extension of credit in high
pr °d risk areas than in other areas? Do such restrictive terms reflect
suactices which are self-imposed or standards which are imposed by
Pervisory authority?
Lenders are generally more cautious in advancing credit in
areas where flood risk is high; however, it appears that
borrowers in such areas are usually able to obtain adequate
credit. Restrictive terms that might be imposed by lenders
would be self-imposed, since the Federal Reserve System has
not imposed standards.
2.

18 there evidence that lenders have suffered unusual losses from the
1-,4tension of credit or have modified loan contracts after disasters in
flood risk areas?
No instances where a bank suffered unusual losses from extending
credit in high flood risk areas have come to the attention of
the Board. Losses from flood disaster are usually suffered
(241e1Y by the property owner; in many instances, such owners
,ave been given relief under disaster assistance programs.
iowever, at times banks have found it necessary to modify
°an contracts following a flood or other natural disaster.

l

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Mr. Marion
Clawson

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3,
t_ '
s If flood insurance were made available, and if its cost bore a
enablerelation
to the risk of flood damage, how would your agency
0J181:4tthe:xlg
tuation where lenders would require insurance as a condition
credit much as they require fire and other types of hazard
it "anbee in connection with advances of credit? Would your agency view
:
mlea
-0th reasonable and prudent for lenders to require flood insurance
is L.e there is
a substantial flood risk as a condition for lending? What
Your agency's view on the reaction of borrowers to such a requirement?
If flood insurance were available, and if its cost bore a
reasonable relation to the risk involved, it would constitute
a d esirable form
of insurance and one which lenders would
Probably require. Borrowers probably would react favorably.
4.1 flood insurance were required for the extension of credit in flood

itifoeareas, where would lending agencies expect to get the necessary
on the degree of the risk of flood damage in a site? I might
add
our preliminary studies have shown that there is great variation
14 ithaf
ucd hazard within a particular flood plain, so that highly localized
on flood risk would be needed if lenders were to consider this
i
riskrlalati°n
4 making
loans.
There

seems to be general agreement that there exists a lack of

;efinitive knowledge about the degree of risk of flood damage in
n?st areas. Such information presumably would have to be furelned by either insurance companies or Governmental agencies,
either Federal or State or both.

5.
Illsur '
c ea Your agency have legal powers to impose the requirement of flood
this ;rice? For what types of private lenders and what types of loans does
Peci:ilth°rity extend? If you do not have the legal powers to require
itisur;' measures do you have the authority to urge or to advocate flood
!
i°1-1di -li ce as a condition to making loans? Do you think that limitations or
4i.t1slit%°118 on the extension of credit, such as the requirement for flood
kilvesL e in
rone areas, would have a significant effect on private
--ent decisions?
floodp
The t,
not have statutory authority to
re ederal Reserve System does
autmember banks to obtain flood insurance, but it does have
1, tY to urge or advocate flood insurance if this appeared
to '
ext."e in the public interest. Limitations or conditions on the
'
ension of credit, such as the requirement for flood insurance
in
prif"c'd prone areas, could be expected to have an effect on
eosvatc investment decisions. However, such decisions are
and
otht°ma rily taken after full consideration of all factors
in
important
more
be
frequently
reaef considerations might
coveg an investment decision than would coverage or lack of
rage of a particular type of insurance.

Mr. Marion
Clawson

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6.
b_ _If flood insurance were required as a condition to loans, would this
017r effective only as to future loans, or could it be made effective as to
cetanding loans if the properties are in high flood risk areas?
If flood insurance were required as a condition to loans it
would be effective only as to future loans, unless outstanding
loan agreements were drawn in such a manner as to permit the
lender to impose additional requirements. The only other way
in which lenders could obtain insurance on existing loans would
be by agreement with the borrowers.
7.
tat., If your agency required or urged flood insurance as a condition to
101;
,14 loans in flood prone areas, do you think it essential that direct
efternmant loans, such as those the Small Business Administration now makes
floer disasters, should also require flood insurance against probable future
pri°d
" If this were not done, would it create difficult problems for the
vata lending firms?
If banks are to be urged to require flood insurance as a
condition when making loans it would seem essential that
direct government loans also be protected by flood insurance.
If this were not done private lenders would be placed at a
disadvantage; such a practice would also strengthen the
argument that governmental agencies make direct loans on
more lenient terms than can private lenders.
8.
quell 130 you foresee any special difficulties, not suggested by the foregoing
!
i°ne, that would probably arise if lending institutions were to require
floo
m insurance in flood prone areas?
f lending institutions
Irlood

were to require flood insurance in
legislation would presumably be
Federal
areas
prone
required and such legislation might conflict with that of
"me States. Were this the case either legislative or
adMinistrative action might be required to avoid giving
clla class of financial institutions a competitive advantage
0Ver those chartered by another agency of government.

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Marion Clawson

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compulso Your letter suggests that it seems unrealistic to consider
rY flood insurance and mentions as an alternative the possibil
eXt4eguiring borrowers to obtain flood insurance as a condition to the
fic
:
Irlision of credit used to purchase real or personal property subject to
damage. If such a condition were imposed there would be very little,
4Y, difference between compulsory flood insurance and voluntary
urance.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.