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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Thursday, July 9, 1942, at 11:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Betheal Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on July

8,

1942, were approved unanimously.

Memorandum dated July 7, 1942, from Mr. Morrill, recommending
that Miss Betty Jane Stewart be appointed as a stenographer in the
Secretary's Office, with salary at the rate of $1,680 per annum, effective as of the date upon which she enters upon the performance of
her duties after having passed satisfactorily the usual physical
eXamination.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated July 82 1942, from Mr. Morrill, recommending
that Miss Mary Louise Oddsson be appointed as a stenographer in the
Sec
retaryts Office, with salary at the rate of $1,440 per annum, effective as of the date upon which she enters upon the performance of
her duties after having passed satisfactorily the usual physical
exa
mination.




Approved unanimously.

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-2Memorandum dated July 7, 1942, from Mr. Morrill, submitting

the resignation of Paul C. Ahitley as an elevator operator in the
Secretary's Office, to become effective as of the close of business
c41 July 7, 1942, and recommending that the resignation be accepted
as of that
date.
The resignation was accepted.
Letter to Mr. Paddock, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Boston, reading as follows:
"In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of July 3, 1942, the Board approves the appointment of Roy E. Cederval as an assistant examiner for
the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. Please advise us
of the date upon which this appointment becomes
effective."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Drinnen, First Vice President of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Philadelphia) reading as follows:
"As requested in your letter of July 3, 1942, the
Board of Governors approves the increase in the salary
of J. Frank Rehfuss, Alternate Assistant Federal Reserve
Agent, from $4,800 to $5,000 per annum, effective July 1,
1942.
"It is understood that Mr. Rehfuss' duties as Alternate Assistant Federal Reserve Agent are slight and
were not considered in connection with the proposed increase in salary which was based entirely upon his work
as Manager of the Department of Research and Statistics."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hitt) First Vice President of the Federal Reserve
1344k of St. Louis, reading as follows:




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"In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of July 3, the Board approves the appointment of
George I. Baggott as an examiner for the Federal Reserve
Bank of St. Louis, effective August 1, 1942. Since it is
contemplated that his services will be utilized by the
Bank Examination Department for a part of the time in the
interim, the Board approves his designation as a special
examiner during the period ending July 31.
"The Board approves also the appointment of Bertram
Lee Chapman as an examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank
of St. Louis. Please advise us of the date upon which
the appointment becomes effective."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable Burton K. Wheeler, United States Senate,
reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of July 2, 1942 enclosing
a further request from Mr. P. B. Moss of the Billings Utility Company for a copy of the report of the examiner who made
an investigation in connection with an application for a loan
submitted by the Billings Utility Company to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. An earlier request for this report
was made by Mr. Moss and was submitted to the Board in your
letter of April 28, 1942. Under date of May 20, 19421 the
Board advised that it did not feel that it should comply with
Mr. Moss' request.
"When the Board received Mr. Moss' earlier request, it
gave careful consideration to the matter and consulted with
the President and Counsel for the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis, the institution with which Mr. Moss is now engaged in litigation. In view of our feeling that the report
18 of a confidential credit nature, in view of the fact that
if the report is not considered to be of a confidential and
Privileged nature Mr. Moss can obtain a copy of it through
appropriate court process in connection with the suit he has
filed against the Federal Reserve Bank, and also in view of
the fact that one court already has held that Mr. Moss does
not have a cause of action against the Federal Reserve Bank,
neither the Federal Reserve Bank nor the Board feel that a
copy of the report should be furnished to Mr. Moss. In his
second request, Mr. Moss has not submitted any new or additional reasons why he should be furnished with a copy of
the report and for the reasons indicated above, which were
more fully discussed in our letter to you of May 20, 1942,
We still do not feel that we should furnish him with a copy




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"of the report. Mile we regret that it seems necessary
to refuse Mr. Moss' request, it seems to the Board that
it is the only position that it can properly take in all
the circumstances.
"The letter which Mr. Moss addressed to you is returned herewith."
Approved unanimously, together with
a similar letter to Senator James E. Murray.
Letter to "The Lincoln County National Bank of Stanford",
Stanford, Kentucky, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has given consideration to your application for fiduciary powers, and grants you authority to act, when not
in contravention of State or local law, as trustee, executor, administrator, registrar of stocks and bonds,
guardian of estates, assignee, receiver, committee of
estates of lunatics, or in any other fiduciary capacity
ln which State banks, trust companies or other corporations which come into competition with national banks are
Permitted to act under the laws of the State of Kentucky,
the exercise of all such rights to be subject to the provisions of the Federal Reserve Act and the regulations of
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.
"This letter will be your authority to exercise the
fiduciary powers granted by the Board pending the preperation of a formal certificate covering such authorization,
Which will be forwarded to you in due course.
"It has been noted that your bank contemplates succeeding by appointment to the trust accounts now handled by
the affiliated Lincoln Trust Company, Stanford, Kentucky,
Which is to be placed in liquidation. The Board's approval
of your application is based, among other things, on assurances given to representatives of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland that such trust accounts would be accepted
only following the filing by the Trust Company of a final
accounting and a review by the court in each case, and that
Your bank will assume no responsibility for the acts of its
Predecessor. It has been noted also that the records maintained by the Lincoln Trust Company were not regarded as
entirely satisfactory. The Board wishes to emphasize the
Importance of installing and maintaining adequate trust records in order that evidence may be available at all times
that the responsibilities assumed by the bank have been
Proper4 discharged."




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-5Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hays, Vice President and Secretary of the Fed-

erai Reserve Bank
of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of June 18 regarding a
question under Regulation W presented to you by gr. R. E.
Messinger, Assistant Treasurer of The Toledo Trust Company.
"The question is whether a borrower who has executed
a thirty-day single-payment note may renew it for another
sixty days.
"Mr. Messinger suggests that he should be allowed to
renew it, for two reasons. He could have made it for
ninety days in the first instance. Furthermore, section
10(a) permits the renewal or revision of instalment loans
on any terms which would have been permitted 'in the first
inctancet, and a similar rule should be applied with respect to a thirty-day single-payment loan under section 7.
"When the Revision of May 6 was being prepared, some
thought was given to making a provision such as Mr. Messinger suggests in section 7. However, the provision was not
made, and the provisions covering the renewal or extension
of a single-payment note are those contained in section 7(c).
These provisions apply irrespective of whether the loan was
originally made for the full ninety-day period permitted by
section 7(b).
"Accordingly, the Board agrees with the advice which
You have given Mr. Messinger, which is to the effect that
the loan may be renewed or extended under section 7(c)(1)
or section 7(c)(2), and that under the latter section a
proportionate reduction must be made at the time of renewal."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to 111r. Hodgson, Assistant Counsel at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, reading as follows:
"Your letter June 13 regarding Investor's Syndicate.
Board agrees with opinions stated in third, fourth, fifth
and sixth paragraphs (relating to loans by Investor's
Syndicate companies on certificates issued by them) of Mr.
Ueland's letter of June 2 to you."




Approved unanimously.

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-6Letter to Mr. Woolley, Vice President of the Federal Reserve

Bank of Kansas City, reading as follows:
"Your letter of June 27 contained 8 questions under
Regulation W. These questions are discussed below.
1. A person who makes extensions of credit exclusively of the kind excepted under section 8 is not
required to register under section 3, because the Regulation does 'not apply' to such loans.
"2. Unless the articles form a set or group as described in section 12(1), no down payment is required in
connection with the purchase of several articles each
costing $6 or less. This question is referred to, but
not specifically answered, in S-500.
"3. An instalment agreement converting a charge account, either before or after default, may have a 6 months'
maturity, and since it is an 'instalment credit', it is
entitled to the 15-day option under section 12(c).
"4. If the charge account of a farmer is in default,
a further extension of credit granted to him pursuant to a
Statement of Necessity may have the adjustments allowed by
section 9(b), since such adjustments are permitted 'notwithstanding any other provision of this Revlationl.
"5. Sections 5(d)(2), 5(d)(3) and 5(e) refer to 'substantially equal' instalments, but this does not preclude
instalments in decreasing amounts. The question is analogous
to that discussed in 8-479.
"6. A 6 months' instalment loan to retire a charge
account to purchase a listed article may be for the full
amount of the account, since the loan is not 'to be used
to purchase' a listed article.
"7. A bank may make a single-payment loan to retire
a 6 months' balance on an instalment loan subject to the
Regulation. The maturity of the loan is limited to ninety
days by section 7, but the amount of the loan is not limited
bY section 7(a) since the purpose of the loan is not to purchase an article.
"8. A loan to a doctor, dentist or other professional
man to pay office rent, office help, purchase professional
books, etc., would qualify as a business loan under
section 8(j)."




Approved unanimously.

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-7Letter to Mr. Woolley, Vice President and Secretary of the

Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of June 16, 1942, regarding
the effect of Regulation W upon the 'credit cards' issued by
the Phillips Petroleum Company.
"Your letter states that the Company has some 22,000
agents located throughout the United States operating service
stations, and that the Company sells products to these agents
on a 30 to 90 day basis, prompt payment being required even
though the agent may not have made resale to his customers.
An agreement between the Company and each agent provides
that the Company will purchase the accounts arising from the
credit sale of gasoline, oil, tires, batteries, etc., by the
agent to customers holding credit cards. A representative of
the Company has informed you definitely that the 'seller' of
the merchandise is the agent and not the Phillips Petroleum
Company, and that the Company is only the purchaser of the
Open accounts originating from sales by the agent.
'You say that it is the opinion of the Company that if
merchandise is not paid for within the time prescribed, the
Purchaser would be prohibited from purchasing on credit anyof the articles listed in section 13 of the Regulation from
the agent where the credit originated, but would not be prohibited from purchasing such articles on credit from any
Other agent, even though Phillips Petroleum Company would
Purchase the credits from both of the agents. You state,
further, that you have informed the representative of the
Company that you are inclined to agree with this view but that
the question is being referred to the Board.
"The Board agrees with the view outlined above since the
agent is the seller of the merchandise. The Company, in purchasing the account, is in no different position from a bank
or other financing institution which discounts an obligation.
As a practical matter, however, the seller would not know
Whether an item of merchandise sold by him was paid for within the time prescribed in the Regulation unless the Phillips
Petroleum Company were to notify him that the holder of the
credit card had not paid the bill sold to the Company. Of
course, this difficulty is similar to the one undoubtedly
considered by the Company before initiating the credit card
Plan since there would always be the possibility that a customer would not pay his bill but would continue to use the
credit card in purchasing merchandise from the service station operators."




Approved unanimously.

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-8Letter to Mr. George F. Benkhart, Vice President of General

Motors Acceptance Corporation, New York, New York, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letters of June 1 and June 3,
1942, to Mr. Dembitz, regarding the effect of Regulation W
upon your Credit Service Plan pursuant to which your Corporation enters into an agreement with General Motors dealers
to purchase, subject to discount at a specified rate, their
accounts receivable resulting from credit sales to customers
to whom your Corporation has issued GMAC Credit Identification Cards. You state that since the May 6, 1942, revision
of the Regulation the credit cards have excluded the purchase of listed articles.
"The sample forms which you enclosed with your second
letter show that in the normal case, the accounts are purchased by your Corporation without recourse against the
dealer, but, although not entirely clear, it seems that the
customer remains indebted to the dealer. If this is true,
and, since the dealer is the seller, the answer to your first
question is that the dealer is the Registrant under section
5(b), your Corporation merely purchasing or rediscounting
the obligation in much the same manner as would a bank or
Other financing institution.
"With respect to your second question, your Corporation,
from its records, presumably would know whether a customer's
account with a dealer was in default and, therefore, the purchase from such dealer of an instalment sale contract covering
a. listed article sold to the defaulting customer would be a
violation by your Corporation, not of section 5(b), but of
section 3(a)(3). Of course, section 5(b) would not prevent
Your Corporation from purchasing such an instalment sale
contract from a different dealer.
"As stated in section 5(b), when a charge account is in
default, the seller cannot extend credit to the customer in
connection with the sale of a listed article either in a
Charge account or on an instalment basis. This, of course,
IllaY present a practical difficulty in that the dealer may not
know whether the customer has paid your Corporation for previous purchases within the time prescribed unless your Corporation notifies the dealers of the accounts which are in default. The Regulation, however, does not specifically require
such notification."




Approved unanimously.

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-9Letter to Mr. R. H. Stout, President of the Morris Plan Bankers

As
sociation, Washington, D. C., reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of June 22 asking whether
a charge account which has been converted into an instalment
credit may be retired by a lender through an instalment loan
running for a 12-month period if the lender accepts a Statement of Necessity from the borrower.
"This question has been received from several sources,
and the Board has now replied that the loan may have a maximum maturity of 12 months from the date of the loan whether
or not the charge account was in default under the provisions
of section 5(c).
"The administration of the Regulation, as you know, has
been decentralized, and, therefore, it will be appreciated
if you will address future requests for interpretations of
the provisions of the Regulation to the Federal Reserve Bank
of Richmond."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Irvin Wesley, Vice President of The Lincoln Loan
CcrPoration, Indianapolis,
Indiana, reading as follows:
.
"This refers to your letter of July 1 regarding a question raised by Mr. Newton under Regulation W. The question
IS whether Option 2 in section 10(b) can be used to effect a
consolidation of debt if the lender is merely taking over
several outstanding obligations, and is not advancing any new
money to the borrower.
"Section 10(b) is designated 'Additions to Outstanding
Credit Held by Registrant', but Option 1 and Option 2 migy be
Used even if there is no new money, because literal compliance with the terms of the section could be accomplished
merely by taking over one of the obligations and immediately
thereafter
taking over the others.
"In such a case, the use of Option I would be equivalent
to transferring all of
the obligations to one Registrant without changing the terms of repayment; and Option 2 would not
Permit any easier terms, in view of clause (i).
"If this does not give you the information you desire,
Please let us hear from you further."




Approved unanimously.




Thereupon the meeting adjourned.