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A. meeting of the Executive Committee of the Federal Reserve
Board was held in 'Washington on Monday, July 9, 1934, at 12:35 p. m,
PRESENT:

Er.
Mr.
Nr.
Er.

Black, Governor
Hamlin
James
Thomas

Er.
Mr.
Er.
Er.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Martin, Assistant to the Governor
Vest, Assistant Counsel

Governor Black stated that he had called the meeting primarily
to consider the establishment of rates to be charged by Federal reserve banks on industrial advances to be made under the provisions of
section 13b of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended. Er. Morrill called
attention to the fact that there were only four members of the Board
Present and that it had not been customary for the Executive Committee
to Pass upon rates of discount and purchase unless authority therefor
114d been specifically delegated by the Board for that purpose and suggested that the Governor might wish to invite Er. O'Connor, Comptroller
Of the Currency, to attend the meeting in order that there might be a
qUorum of the Board present.

Governor Black then asked Er. Martin to

"Plain the circumstances to Er. O'Connor and invite him to attend the
MeetinG.

Er. Martin withdrew from the meeting for this purpose but re-

Ported back immediately to the effect that Er. O'Connor was not in the
and mould not be available until later in the day.

Governor

/3111o1C said that, in view of the necessity for quick action on the receIMIlendations which had been received from seven of the Federal reserve
/31144 with respect to rates to be charged on industrial advances and




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the absence of the Secretary of the Treasury and of Messrs. Miller and
Szymczak from the city, he was of the opinion that the Executive Committee should consider and act upon the matter.
Er. Vest pointed out that the boards of directors of several
of the reserve banks had established a spread of interest rates for direct advances to established industrial or commercial businesses and
said that, while the Board has always held that it was necessary for
it to fix specific
rates of discount under section 14 of the Federal
Reserve Act, it was his considered opinion that the Board had authority
under section la of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended by the Act of
Julie 19, 1934, to approve a spread of rates for industrial advances.
Ur. hanlin suggested that it night be advisable to ask Er.
?arrY, Assistant Director of the Division of Research and Statistics,
to attend the meeting in order that he might advise the Board with rePeet to the experience of the Bank of England in making industrial
1°ane end as to the rates charged thereon.

Governor Black requested

Martin to ask Er. Parry to attend the meeting to advise the Board
or this
matter. Er. Martin reported back that Mr. Parry was not in
hie office and would not be available until about 2:30 p. m. Governor

81aek thereupon suggested that the Executive Comnittee consider such
°ther matters as might be on the docket and defer action on the questi°11 of rates until after Er. Parry had been heard.
Mr. Morrill reported that the Treasury and the State Depart41ellt8 desired the cooperation of the Federal Reserve Board, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation




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in obtaining information with respect to deposits and other assets
held by the banks of this country for the account of the Russian Government (past and present) and of Russian corporations, companies,
Partnerships, associations and individuals.

To this end the Treasury

had suggested that a questionnaire be sent out by the Federal Reserve
Board to State member banks, by the Comptroller of the Currency to
laational banks, and by. the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to
llortmember State banks. Er. Morrill stated that he had been informed
that the Comptroller had agreed to do so and, in this connection, he
you'd suggest that, should the Board take similar action, any circular
letter transmitting such questionnaires to State member banks should
illdioate clearly- that the questionnaires were being transmitted at the
l'equest of the Treasury. Er. Merrill added that the proposed questionnaire provided for "yes" or "no" answers and that it was understood
that if any State member banks reported that they had held such dePosits or other assets the Treasury would desire to have the Board request detailed information with respect to such deposits or assets in
order that it might complete its investigation.

Governor Black said

that, since it appeared that the State and Treasury Departments desired
this action to be taken, he felt that the Federal Reserve Board should
000Perate in the matter.
After brief discussion, the Committee authorized
the transmission of such questionnaires to all Federal
reserve agents with the request that they be sent to
all State member banks in their respective districts
with a covering letter indicating that such action
is being taken at the request of the Secretary of the
Treasury.




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-4Mr. Morrill reported that Mr. Owens, Secretary of the Federal

Deposit Insurance Corporation, had called him on the telephone and
requested that he be furnished with the information which the Board
'will publish in its annual report for 1933 with respect to the salaries
Of national bank examiners. In this connection, Mr. Morrill stated
that, prior to the enactment of the Banking Act of 1933, the Federal
Reserve Board had fixed the salaries of all national bank examiners
in accordance with section 21 of the Federal Reserve Act, but that
since that time the Comptroller had not submitted recommendations to
the Board for approval and, therefore, it was proposed in publishing
the salaries of national Ion* examiners in the annual report for the
Year 1933 that a footnote be inserted stating that:
"Since the enactment of the Banking Act of 1933, salaries
Of national bank examiners have not been submitted to the Federal Reserve Board for approval".
14r. Lorrill said that Mr. Await, Deputy Comptroller of the Currency,
had been consulted regarding the matter and had suggested that the
footnote be changed to read:
"Since the enactment of the Banking Act of 1933, salaries
of National Bank Examiners are not submitted to the Federal Reserve Board for approval."
Lorrill stated that Mr. Owens also requested that he be
furnished with the information which will be published in the annual
l'ePort for 1933 showing the salaries of officers and employees
of the
?ederal Reserve Board. In the circumstances, he stated that there
*were three questions for consideration; (1) whether the list of salaries
°f national bank examiners should be published
in the annual report




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for the year 1933, which is now in galley proof, with the footnote in
the form suggested by the Board's staff or as proposed by Er. Await,
(2) whether "tr. Owens should be furnished with the information regarding salaries of national bank examiners in advance of the publication
of the annual report for the year 1933, and (3) whether Er. Owens
should be furnished with a list of the salaries of officers and employees of the Federal Reserve Board prior to its publication in the
annual report for the year 1933.

Governor Black stated with regard to

question number (1) that there was a question in his mind as to whether
the provisions of the third paragraph of section 21 of the Federal Re•

serve Act did not make it obligatory for the Federal Reserve Board to
fiX the salaries of all national bank examiners.

Mr. Vest stated that

he vaof the opinion that it is the duty of the Board to fix such salsries upon the recommendation of the Comptroller of the Currency, but
that counsel for the Comptroller of the Currency had taken the view
that because of amendments contained in the Banking
Act of 1933 it was
41° longer necessary for the Comptroller to submit such salaries to the
130ard, and that, in the circumstances, the Comptroller had not submitted recommendations to the Board with regard to the salaries of national bank examiners since the enactment of the Banking Act of 1933,
411d, therefore, the Board is not in a position to exercise the responsibilitY devolving upon it under the provisions of that section of the
law.
After discussion, the Executive Committee requested
Er. Vest to furnish it with a written opinion in regard
to the Board's responsibility under the provisions of




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-6Section 21 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, and
to prepare, for the Board's consideration, a letter to
the Comptroller of the Currency calling attention to the
Board's duty in the matter of fixing the salaries of all
national bank examiners upon his recommendation.
The Committee thereupon instructed the Secretary to
refer :a.. Omens' request for the list of salaries of
national bank examiners to the Comptroller of the Currency, and authorized the Secretary to release to Mr.
Owens the list of salaries of officers and employees of
the Federal Reserve Board in the form in which they will
be published in the annual report for the year 1933.
Mr. Morrill reported the progress made in negotiations with

the management of the Washington Building for space to house the
Board and its staff now located in the Treasury Building. Er. Morrill
stated that preliminary estimates of the cost of tearing down partitions and installing new partitions necessary to adapt the space to
the needs of the Board and its staff indicated that an expenditure of
aPProximately

4,700 mould be necessary for this purpose.

After discussion, the Committee authorized Mr.
Morrill to conclude necessary arrangements for the requisite alterations.
The Committee then considered the following letter dated
Juae 18, 1934, addressed to Governor Black by Mr. Walter Lichtenstein,
Secretary
of the Federal Advisory Council:
"There has been considerable discussion among members of
the Council in respect to the order of business at meetings of
the Council. I have been requested to write to you and summarize some of the views expressed. The Council, I judge, mould
also be very glad to have you discuss this -whole subject with
Other members of the Board if this is agreeable to you.
"In the first place, the members of the Council believe the
best results can be obtained if topics, which the Board wishes
to have discussed by the Council, be submitted in sufficient
time to enable the members of the Council to discuss the subject with the proper authorities of the Federal Reserve bank of
their respective district. It is naturally recognized that at
times this may not be possible.




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"The members of the Council realize that there have been occasions when recommendations made by the Council have been formulated without complete knomlodge of all the facts and data at
the disposal of the Board. Undoubtedly in some of these instances
if the Council had had the advantage of discussing the subject
with the Board before making the recommendations, instead of afterwards, the recommendations would have been considerably changed.
"In view of these facts, the Council wishes to enquire of
the Board as to the feasibility of the following plan of procedures
"Az you are probably aware, the Council has had a preliminary meeting on the Monday preceding the statutory meeting with
the Board. The suggestion now is to have on Monday morning a
very brief preliminary meeting with the Board at which the members of the Board will indicate to the members of the Council
what they have in mind in connection with the topics submitted
and furnish the Council with any data available. Members of the
Council will have the right to address questions cancerning the
topics to the Board, but the idea is not to attempt at this preliminary meeting to have the Council express any views. In other
mords, it is merely a meeting to furnish the members of the
Council with the necessary background and to bring them up to
date. After this brief meeting the Council will then go to the
Mayflower Hotel where it will have its usual meeting and then
meet on Tuesday, as at present, with the Board and at this time
Present its recommendations.
"The members of the Council feel that SOMB such order of
business will make their recommendations more valuable to the
Board. Before, however, adopting this revised order of business,
the Council wishes to obtain the advice of the Board. It may be
that the Board will be able to give some advice which will enable the Council to carry out better than at present its intention of keeping in closer contact with the affairs of the Federal
Reserve System."
After discussion, the Executive Committee requested Mr. Morrill to advise Mr. Lichtenstein that
the Board will be glad to cooperate with the Council
in the manner suggested.
Er. Morrill drew the attention of the Committee to a letter
doted June 16, 1934, addressed to Governor Black by Deputy Governor
Crane of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, together with its inclosures consisting of a letter dated Nay 25, 1934, from the Bank for
Ildernational Settlements and a copy of Jr. Crane's letter of June 16,




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1934, to the Postmaster General relating to a proposal, put forward at
the Congress of the World Postal Union held in Cairo last Larch, to effect through the Bank for International Settlements the settlement of
Payments in respect of international postal transactions. Er. Morrill
stated that Er. Crane's letter and inclosures had been acknowledged on
June 19, 1934, and it appeared that no action by the Committee was
necessary with respect thereto.
The Committee instructed the Secretary to make
note of the correspondence in the minutes of the
meeting and place it in the Board's files.
Consideration was given to the following resolution adopted by
the Federal Reserve Agents' Conference held in Washington on May 7, 8,
a3ld 9, 1934, which mas read by the Assistant Secretary:
"WHEREAS, interest rates have reached unprofitable levels
from a banking standpoint,
"NM THEREFORE, we recommend that the Federal Reserve Board
discuss with those proper authorities the question of reducing the
rate of interest on deposits of the Postal Savings System.
"WHEREAS, the Bank Act of 1933 insures deposits in all banks
in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, providing safety for
depositors, and
"WHEREAS, the Postal Savings System tends in many instances
to divert funds from local trade channels, and
"IdiEREAS, there is reason to doubt that necessity for Government competition with local institutions when the need for the
Postal Savings System has apparently been eliminated,
"WE SUGGEST, that the Federal Reserve Hoard give study to
the question of the desirability of discontinuing the Postal Sayings System."
It was the sense of the Executive Committee that the
questions involved in the foregoing resolution should be
discussed informally by Governor Black with the Secretary
of the Treasury.
The Committee considered a proposed letter to Mr. Stevens,




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Pederal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, relative
to the applications of Messrs. B. C. Ziegler and C. P. Klein under see32 of the Banking Act of 1933 for permits to serve as officers
ezd/or directors of The First National Bank of West Bend, and of E. C.
Ziegler & Company, both of West Bend, Wisconsin, which letter contained
the following
statement:
"The Board therefore believes that the applications should be denied unless the resignation of the applicants mould result in
shaking public confidence in the bank or would otherwise endanger
its continued successtul operation to such an extent as to make
the granting of these applications compatible with the public interest in spite of the general policy declared in Section 32."
The letter
in question was prompted by representations made personally
to members of the Board's staff by kr. Ziegler as the result of the
13°4rd's letter written to Er. Klein under date of April 28, 1934, denyh&s application for a permit under section 32, which stated that
the Board is prepared to give careful consideration to any further
Ilkets or arguments
which might be submitted in support of his applicati°3a. Inasmuch as the factual situation with regard to Er. Ziegler's
aPPlication was substantially the same as that involved
in the consideration of Ir. Klein's application, both were being dealt with in one
letter. In circulating the letter for consideration of the members of

the Board, attention was drawn to the fact that it was the first cont4ining a statement such as that quoted above.
After discussion, the Committee directed that the
statement referred to be deleted from the letter, and authorized the Secretary to send it in the following form:
.
"Reference is made to the applications of Messrs. B. C.
Ziegler and 0. E. Klein under Section 32 of the Banking Act of
1933 for permits to serve as officers and/Or directors of The
First Eational Bank of West Bend, and of B. C. Ziegler & Company,




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"both of West Bend, Wisconsin.
"The applications disclosed that B. C. Ziegler a Company is
engaged primarily in the purchase, sale, or negotiation of securities within the meaning of Section 32, and accordingly, the Federal Reserve Board, by a letter dated April 28, 1934, notified
Jr. Klein that it was unable to find that it would not be incompatible with the public interest to grant his application. It
appears that the application of Mr. Ziegler presents the same
considerations, although he has not been notified of that fact
by letter.
"On May 2, 1934, La-. Ziegler called at the Board's offices
and discussed these applications with a member of the Board's
staff. Mr. Ziegler stated that it would be impossible to replace the applicants with other competent directors. Yr. Ziegler
also stated that because he was the founder and principal stockholder of the bank and because Mr. Klein was its most active and
valuable executive officer, public confidence in the blink would
be shaken if these two applicants should resign.
"While as indicated above, it appears that the relationships
here involved are within the class which Section 32 was designed
to terminate, and the Board therefore believes that the applications should be denied, it will be appreciated if you will investigate the matter and inform the Board regarding the facts
and your conclusion with respect thereto. In view of the fact
tnat the Board already has before it the views of the applicants
,
it is suggested that the requested information be developed from
sources other than the applicants themselves.
"For your information and files, there is inclosed a copy
of a telegram received from the First National Bank of West
Bend
dated June 14, 1934 and a copy of the Board's reply."
In connection with the above, the Committee also approved the following letter to The First National Bank of
West Bend, West Bend, Wisconsin:
"Reference is made to your telegram dated June 14, 1934,
which reads as follows:
'Directors Klein and Ziegler are continuing in accordance
with understanding with your Board which was that they were
to continue unless advised otherwise. Stop. If you have
reached any other decision wire. Stop. This has reference
to your letter of April twenty-eighth.'
.
"The Board still has the applications of Mr. Klein and Mr.
Ziegler under consideration, and until it makes a final decision
with respect to said applications, it will take no other action
with respect to the relationships involved."
At this point Mr. Parry, Assistant Director of the Division
ot
Research and Statistics, entered the meeting and reported that the




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-11had no data available with respect to the experience of the

430.1c of England in making industrial loans and rates of interest charged
thereon. Er. Parry said that it was reported that good grade industrial
bonds in England yield approximately 4.58%, whereas similar bonds in
this country yield approximately 4%. In response to a query by Governor
/31ac1c, LI.. Parry said that, in his judgment, without having an opportunity to investigate the matter fully, not less than a 5% rate would
Prevail in England for three to five year loans similar to the industrial advances which the Federal reserve banks are authorized to make
under the Act of June 19, 1934.

hr. James said in this connection that

G°vernor Norman of the Bank af England had told him that the announced
interest rates established by the Bank of England were not controlling
e*nd that such rates established by the bank mere not necessarily indicative of the
rates actually charged on industrial loans.

Governor

131ack stated that he preferred a range of rates and agreed
with a suggestion made by hr. Morrill that variations night be desirable to meet
conditions in
different localities in any particular Federal reserve
district.

Er. James pointed out that it mould be desirable to avoid

direct competition with the usual lending agencies by fixing rates
Which Would divert business from the customary channels.
After a full discussion, the Committee approved,
effective July 10, 1934, the following rates on industrial advances established, subject to the approval
of the Federal Reserve Board, by the boards of directors of the Federal reserve banks referred to below:
2-9.:...„a5vances to established industrial or commercial businesses:
New York




4% to 6% per annum

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Philadelphia

5";./ to 6% per annum

Cleveland

6% per annum

Richmond

6% per annum

Chicago

5% to 6% per annum

St. Louis

5 1/2% per annum

Kansas City

6% per annum

to banks and other financin.. institutions:
-------Hew York

3% per annum on portions of advances for which
institutions retain responsibility
4% to 5% per annum on portions of advances for
which institutions are relieved of responsibility

Philadelphia

1% per annum above prevailing discount rate on
portions of advances for which institutions
retain responsibility
Same rate .as made to borrower, but not less
than 4% per annum, an portionsof advances
for which institutions are relieved of responsibility

Cleveland

4% per Prnum on portions of advances for which
institutions retain responsibility
1% per annum less than rate charged by financing institution to its customers, but not
less than 4% per annum, on portions of advances for which institutions are relieved
of responsibility

Richmond

6% per annum on industrial advances to financing institutions other than banking institutions
5% per annum on industrial advances to banking
institutions

Chicago

5% to 6% per annum

St. Louis

4 1/2% per annum

Kansas City

4% per annum

'
- 44.ttients to make industrial advances:
14e1,7 York




1% to 2% per annum

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Cleveland

0% to 1% per annum

Richmonkl

1% to 2% per annum

St. Louis

1/2% flat for commitments not exceeding six
months

Kansas City

2% per annum on direct advances to established
. industrial or commercial businesses
1% per annum on advances to financing institutions.

In this connection, the Committee nated that
the directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia had fixed no charge for commitments but
expected such charge to depend upon the length of
the commitment and the circumstances. The Federal
Reserve Bank of Chicago submitted no recommendation
Nlith respect to commitment rates.
Morrill called attention to the fact that the letter reunder date of July 5, 1934, from Lax. Tiebout, Acting Assistant
Secretary of
the Federal Reserve Bank of NevrYork, advising of the establishment of rates on industrial advanc
es under the provisions of
glection 13b of the Federal Reserve Act, as amende
d, also advised that
the board of directors of the bank,
at its meeting on July 5, made no

Other changes in the bank's existi
ng schedule of rates of discount and
Pu
rchase.
Without objection, noted -with approval.
Morrill called attention to the fact that the telegram received under date of July 6, 1934, from
Ir. Wood, Chairman of the
?ederal Reserve Bnylk of St. Louis, advisi
ng of the establishment of
Illtee on industrial advances under the provisions of section 13b of
the
I'ederal Reserve Act, as amended, also advise
d that the board of direct°re of the bank, at its meeting on
July 6, voted to establish a rate




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°I' 5 1/2i, per annum on advances to individuals, partnerships and corporations under the third paragraph of section 13 of the Federal ReServe Act, effective on the first business day following thc.t on which
aPProved by the Federal Reserve Board, and that the directors made no
Other changes in the bank's existing schedule of rates of discount and
Purchase other than the establishment of the rate referred to above
.lid the rates on industrial advances.
The Executive Committee approved, effective July 10,
1934, the rate of 5 1/2 per annum established by the
directors of the St. Louis bank on advances to individuals,
Partnerships and corporations under the third paragraph
of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act, and, without
objection, noted with approval that no other changes were
made in the bank's existing schedule of rates of discount
and purchase other than the establishment of this rate and
the rates on industrial advances.
Lorrill further called attention to the fact that the telegram received under date of July 6, 1934, from Lr. LcClure, Chairman
Of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, advising of the establishOf rates on industrial advances under the provisions of section
13b of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, also advised that the
board of directors of the bank, at its meeting on July 6, voted to est4blish rates of 4,0 per annum on advances to member banks under section
10(1)) of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, and 5c/ per annum on aditallees to individuals, partnerships and corporations under the third
1)Etl'agraph of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, and
that the directors made no other changes in the bank's existing schedule
c)t rates of discount and purchase other than the establishment of these
l'kteS and the rates on industrial advances.




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-15The Executive Committee approved, effective July 10,
1934, the rates of 4% per annum established by the directors of the Kansas City bank on advances to member banks
under section 10(b) of the Federal Reserve Act, and 5%
per annum on advances to individuals, partnerships and
corporations under the third paragraph of section 13 of
the Federal Reserve Act, and, without objection, noted
with approval that no other changes were made in the
bank's existing schedule of rates of discount and purchase
other than the establishment of these rates and the rates
on industrial advances.
The Committee then considered and acted upon the following mat-

ters:

Telegrams dated July 6, 1934, from icr. Strater, Secretary of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, and Li-. Clark, Secretary of the
Pederal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, and July

6, 1934, from

Hr. Powell,

Secretary of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, and 1,:r. Walsh,
Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, all advising that, at
raeetings of
the boards of directors on the dates stated, no changes
171/1'e made in the banks' existing schedules of rates of discount and
Nrchase.
Without objection, noted with approval.
Renewal bond, in the amount of $50,000, executed on June 30,
1934, by Li. H. H. Rhodes, as Acting Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at
the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.
Approved.
Telegram dated July 6, 1934, approved by three members of the
13°84'd, to Mr. Curtiss, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston,
re4cliug as follows:
"Your telegram.




Board approves appointment by your bank of

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"followinr, members of Industrial Advisory Committee of First District: Albert i. Creighton, Winthrop L. Carter, Robert Amory,
Edward E. Graham and Carl P. Bennett, it being understood on
basis of information submitted that each of the above-named persons is actively engaged in some industrial pursuit within the
First District."
Approved.
Telegram dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
130ard, to 1,1r.

Chairr:an of the Federal deserve Lank of Kansas

eitY, readinp as follows:
"Retel. Board approves appointment by your bank of following
members of Industrial Advisory Committee of Tenth District:
Walter J. Berkowitz, D. Bruce Forrester, R. L. Gray, Ed. S. tiller,
and L. F. Rooney."
Approved.
Letter dated July 6, 1934, approved by three members of the
Board, to hr. Gerard C. Desse, Assistant rireasurer of the Liyannis Trust
e°111PallY, Hyannis, Lassachusetts, reading as follows:
. "Replying to your letter of June 30, 1934, in which you inquire if a duplicate of your certificate of membership in the
-ederal Reserve System may be furnished for posting in the branch
office of your institution, you are advised that it is the practice of the hoard to issue only the one certificate to any member
bank. The Board would offer no objection, however, to your obtaining a photostat copy of the certificate, which may serve your
expressed purpose."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
Board, to Lx. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:
"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve
Board approves a reduction in the common capital stock of , 'The
l'irst National Bank of Loravia', Lx)ravia, hew York, from c;130,000
t0 ';52,000, pursuant to a plan which provides that the bank's




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"
capital shall be increased by 0.20,000 of preferred stock to be
sold to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and others, and
that the released capital, together with such portion of the
bank's surplus and undivided profits accounts as your office may
require, shall be applied toward the elimination of estimated
losses and depreciation in lower grade securities, all as set
forth in your memorandum of June 21, 1934.
"In considering the plan under which the reduction in common capital stock is to be effected, it has been noted that,
according to an appraisal of the bank's investment securities
made by an examiner for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation,
as of Larch 17, 1934, securities depreciation in the amount of
approximately $33,000 is not provided for. This depreciation if
Considered as a loss, would impair the bank's common capital by
a corresponding amount. It is assumed, however, that you have
this condition in mind and that whenever it is feasible to do so
You will require such further corrections as may be practicable."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
Board, to Lr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:
"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve
Board approves a reduction in the common capital of "1.he National
State Bank of Elizabeth', Elizabeth, New Jersey, from 4700,000
to ,;1350,000, pursuant to a plan which provides that the bank's
capital shall be increased by c960,000 of preferred stock to be
sold to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and others, and
that the released capital, together with such portion of the
bank's surplus and undivided profits as may be necessary, shall
be used to eliminate estimated losses and securities depreciation, all as set forth in your memorandum of June 25, 1934."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
13°are, to Ur.
O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as fol-

"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve
BoarA
- approves a reduction in the common capital stock of 'The
First National Bank of Harrison', Harrison, Ohio, from 450,000
to 025,000 pursuant to a plan which provides that the bank's




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capital shall be increased by v25,000 of preferred stock to be
sold to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and that the released capital shall be used to eliminate a corresponding amount
of the least desirable assets in the bank, all as set forth in
your memorandum of June 26, 1934."
proved.
Letter to Er. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading
as follows:
"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve
hoard approves a reduction in the common capital stock of 'The
virst hational Bank of Villa Grove', Villa Grove, Illinois, from
50,L00 to v25,000, pursuant to a plan which provides that the
bank's capital shall be increased by 25,000 of preferred stock
to be sold to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, and that the
released capital shall be used to eliminate unsatisfactory assets
in the amount of approximately •..14,450, and to establish a surplus
fund in the amount of approximately v10,550, all as set forth in
your memorandum of Juno 23, 1934."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1034, approved by three members of the
130ctrd.,

to Fr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as fol-

lows

"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve
Board approves a reduction in the common capital stock of 'Ihe
irst hati,nal Bank of l'ilmin(7,ton', "dilmin7ton, Illinois, from
50,000 to 37,500, pursuant to a plan which provides that the
bank's capital shall be increased by :?12,500 of preferred stock
to be sold to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and that the
released capital together with a portion of the bank's undivided
Profits account shall be used to eliminate unsatisfactory assets
in the amount of approximately ,,?16,311.50, all as set forth in
Your memorandum of June 27, 1934."
Approved.
Letter to Fr. John 6. Battle of Perkins

Battle, attorneys

and c
ounsellors at law, Charlottesville, Virginia, readinF; as follows:
"This is in reply to your letter of June 28, 1934, with




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"respect to The Scottsville I:ational Bank, Scottsville, Virginia.
As the statements made in your letter indicate that The 1:ational
Corporation controls a majority of the shares of capital stock of
The Scottsville National Bank, the Corporation is a holding company affiliate of the Bank within the definition of that term
contained in Section 2(c) of the Banking Act of 1933 and accordingly none of the shares of stock oC the Bank controlled by the
Corporation. may validly be voted unless the Corporation shall
have first obtained from the Federal Reserve Board a voting per/nit under Section 5144 of the Revised Statutes of the 'United
States, as amended.
"Forms upon which an application for such permit may be
made are obtainable from the Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond, Richmond, Virginia. By letter of even
date herewith the Board has advised the Federal Reserve Agent
that inasmuch as a voting permit is here desired solely to consummate the liquidation of the subsidiary Bank, the application
of The National Corporation may be made in a somewhat simpler
form than that usually required. It should be understood, however, that if the information furnished by the applicant indicates
that additional information is necessary in order that the Board
ray determine whether or not the permit should be granted, the,
Board has not waived any right to require such information by
having permitted the application to be made in the first instance
In an abbreviated form."
Approved.
Letter dated July 6, 1934, approved by three members of the
43ard, to Governor Harrison of the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York,
re ading as follows:
"Further reference is made to your letter of June 29, receipt of which was acknowledged in my letter of July 3, in regard
to the proposed addition to and alterations of the present bank
building of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The Board has
noted that the directors, having previously approved the general
Plans for the proposed addition and alterations, voted to authorize the officers after having obtained the approval of the Federal
leserve Board to proceed with the building operation on the basis
of the estimated budget of expenses, totaling c;999,427.
it fter consideration of this matter in the light of the
cxplanations contained in your Jotter the board approves the proPosed budget and in accordance with its practice in the past in
similar matters will appreciate being advised as to the bids received for the proposed construction before their final acceptance
cY tho Federal Reserve Bank of New York, together with a statement




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"as to which of the bids the board of directors of the bank desires to accept."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
Board, to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, reading as follows:
"In the absence of Governor Black receipt is acknowledged of
r. Knoke's letter of July 3, 1934, and the inclosures transmitted
therewith regarding an arrangement betmeen the Banco de Venezuela,
the Central Hanover Bank and Trust Company, and the Federal :(3serve Bank of 'few York, involving the purchase for the account of
the Banco de Venezuela of approximately .750,000 in gold bars.
It is noted that if 1-tter approached by the Banco de Venezuela you
Propose to express your willingness to earmark gold for its account and ask to be advised whether such action meets with the
approval of the Federal Reserve Board.
"In the circumstances disclosed by the correspondence such
action if taken by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York will meet
with the approval of the Federal Reserve Board.
"If this matter should lead to a request by the Banco de
Venezuela to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to open an account it is assumed that such request will be submitted to the
Board for approval in the usual manner."
Approved.
Letter dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the
Board, to Li.. Joseph V. LicKee, New York, New York, reading as follows:
"Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of June 26, 1934, in
Which you request that an application be made to the Department
of Justice for a ruling on the question whether or not a resumption by the Title Guarantee and Trust Company of Dew York City
of its former activities in regard to the sale of whole real estate mortgages, as distinguished from certificates of participation, would violate the provisions of Section 21(a) of the Banking
-tIct of 1933. In view of the statements in your letter, the Federal Reserve Board is transmitting a copy thereof to the Attorney
feneral of the United States for such consideration as he may
deem advisable in the circumstances."
Approved.
Letter dated July 6, 1934, approved by three members of the
130 rd, to Dr. Frederick D. Koppel, Syracuse, New York, reading as




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"Your letter of April 16, 1934, addressed to the Treasury
Department, inclosing a letter from The Lerchants National Bank
and Trust Company, Syracuse, Nem York, dated April 14, 1934, has
been referred to the Federal Reserve Board.
"It is understood that you wished to be advised why The
:.erchants National Bank and Trust Company, with which you have a
savings account, refuses to retain in its possession your savings
Pass book in order to eliminate the necessity of presenting such
Pass book each time a withdrawal is made by you.
"If the bank retains your pass book and permits you and
members of your family to draw checks against the account, the
account would have to be classified as a deposit payable on demand; and member banks of the Federal Reserve System are forbidden to pay interest on deposits payable on demand by the provisions of Section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended by
the Banking Act of 1933.
"Under the definition contained in Section V(a) of the
Board's Regulation 0„, a copy of which is inclosed herewith, a dePosit may not be classified as a 'savings deposit' if it does not
consist of funds in respect to which the pass book or other form
of receipt evidencing such deposit must be presented to the bank
Whenever a withdrawal is made. It is the opinion of the Federal
ieserve Board that a deposit in respect to which the pass book or
other form of receipt is retained by the bank or by an officer,
employee, or agent thoreof, rather than by the depositor, does
not comply with this requirement and does not constitute a savins deposit, but that it must be considered a deposit payable
on demand upon -which no interest may be paid under the law. A
Pass book is a depositor's receipt and his evidence of the deposit, and if the pass book is retained by the bank it fails of
its purpose. Moreover, the apparent purpose of an arrangement
for the retention of a pass book by the bank is to render the account subject to check without the necessity of presenting the
Pass book, and an account subject to check in such manner cannot
Properly be classified as a savings deposit within the meaning of
Section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act.
"In regard to the danger of your losing your money, your
attention is invited to the fact that under the provisions of
the Banking Act of 1933 each licensed member bank of the Federal
ieserve System, including each licensed national bank, was required to become a member of the Temporary Federal Deposit Insurance Fund on or before January 1, 1934. Every deposit in each such
bank is insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation ap
to an amount not exceeding 5,000 of the net claim against the
bank."

Telegram dated July 7, 1934, approved by three members of the




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Board, to Governor Calkins, of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, reading as follows:
"Your July 5 wire regarding Board's TRAIIS 2025, as you were
advised on that date text accompanying weekly condition statement
contained paragraph regarding elimination of F.D.I.C. stock from weekly statement. Subsection (e) of Section 13b provides that
within the meaning of that Section the sum paid to each Federal
Reserve bank by the Secretary of the Treasury shall become a
Part of the surplus fund of such bank and, in these circumstances,
board feels that it should be shown as surplus in weekly statement,
though separately from surplus accumulated out of net earnings.
Inasmuch as funds received from Secretary of the Treasury are to
be included in surplus there would be a duplication in weekly condition statement unless amount of F.D.I.C. stock owned VAS reduced
by amount received from Treasury at: time of such receipt. This
thought to be undesirable. As you know, Section 12B provides
that Class B stock awned by a Federal Reserve bank shall not be
entitled to any dividends; whereas Class A stock owned by member
banks, as well as stock aaned by United States Government, is entitled to dividends. Fact that stock is nonproductive asset and
no provision is made in Section 12B for its retirement, taken
together with provisions of Section 13b, seem to fully justify
elimination of stock from weekly condition statement."
Approved.
Letters dated July 6, 1934, approved by three members of the
L°D.rd,

to applicants for permits under the Clayton Act, advising of

aPPreval of
their applications as follows:
James D. late, for permission to serve at the same time as a
director and officer of The 1.Larion 1:ational Dank, Larion, Virginia,
as a Jdirector and officer of he Bank of Glade Spring, Glade
Virginia, and as a director and officer of the Farmers
Lxchane Lan, Incorporated, Abingdon, Virginia.
Dr. Albert J. Pullen, for
a director and officer of
du Lao, Visconsin, and .as
l'ank of Pond du Lac, Fond

permission to serve at the same time as
The First .isconsin Lank, 1.orth Fond
a director of the liational Exchange
du Lac, Jisconsin.
Approved.

There were then presented the following applications for
c411ges in stock of Federal reserve banks:




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l'
-0Plications for ORIGINAL Stooks
District Io.
4.
71717e—
Bridgeirffle Uational Bank,
Bridgeville, Pennsylvania

Shares

36

36

72

72

360

360

36
Total

36
504

District 10.
5.
The T:il'ithfiv-ten County ifational Bank of
Abindo'n, Abingdon, Virginia
District
I'0 P
e Calcasieu-.L.arine Iational Lank of Lake
Charles, Lake kAlarles, Louisiana
Di
strict8.
Pirat hr:tElonal Bank in
Olney,
Olney, Illinois

Approved.

Thereupon the meetinF, adjourned.

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