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A. meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Wednesday, July 6, 1938, at 11:30
a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Eccles, Chairman
Mr. McKee
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

Consideration was given to each of the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the
Board:
Mr. Morrill reported that the Comptroller of the Currency on
July 5, 1938, issued a call on all national banks for reports of condition as at the close of business on June 30, 1938, and that, in
accordance with the usual practice, a call was made on behalf of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on July 5 on all State
member banks for reports of condition as of the same date.
The call made on behalf of the Board
was approved unanimously.
Mmmorandum dated June 29, 1938, from Mr. Thanes, Assistant
ing the
Director of the Division of Research and Statistics, recommend
of
appointment on a temporary basis for a period of three months
salary
Michael Marsh as an economic assistant in the Division, with
at the rate of $150.00 per month, effective as of the date upon which
he enters upon the performance of his duties.




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Gidney, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
Of New York, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of June 23, 1938,
regarding the application of 'The Peoples Bank of Potsdam
N. Y.', for membership in the System which was forwarded
to the Board on October 15, 1937, but on which the Board
has not taken formal action for reasons with which you are
familiar. You state that the Supervising Examiner for
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, after reviewing
the report of the recent examination made by an examiner
for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, has indicated that he would like to have a little more time to
work with the situation to see what improvement can be
brought about in the matters criticized. You also report
that the present condition of the bank as reflected by
such report and the comments of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation examiner concerning the management
were reviewed with your directors who approved the recommendation of officers of the Reserve bank that the suggestion be made to The Peoples Bank of Potsdam N. Y. that
it either withdraw its application or request that action
thereon be deferred.
"In accordance with the recommendation of the Reserve bank, the Board will continue to defer action on
the application. The Board, however, will be pleased to
reconsider the application when any issues between the
bank and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation are
settled, or when the Federal Reserve bank is prepared
to recommend approval of the application subject to such
reasonable special conditions of membership as may appear
to the Reserve bank and the Supervising Examiner for the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation adequate and appropriate in the situation. This is in accordance with
the position expressed in the Board's letter of July 10,
1936 (X-0647) regarding cooperation with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in connection with applications of insured nonmember banks for membership in the
System."
Approved unanimously.
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Letter to Mr. Young, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank




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New York, reading as follows:
"Phis refers to your letter of 'Tune 9, 1938, relative
to the report of the recent examination of the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York made by the Board's examiners,
and to President Harrison's letter to you of June 9 regarding the examination, a copy of which was forwarded
with your letter.
"In his letter President Harrison made the following
comment:
'One general comment should be made. We
have noted that this report of examination makes
no mention of any kind of errors or omissions,
nor does it include any critical comments or suggestions with respect to the operation or personnel of the bank. In this respect the report
differs from those submitted prior to last year.
It hardly seems possible that the examiner has
not found some matters which would be subject to
at least moderate criticism and since the examiner makes a confidential report to the Board
of Governors, it is possible that this confidential report includes some such items as have
heretofore appeared in the report submitted to
the bank. If so, this change in the character
of the report seems to us to be unfortunate for
the reason that the management of the bank is
deprived of the benefit of such views as the
examiner may have on these matters. The officers
are therefore unable to give consideration to
them unless and except to the extent that the
examiner may have mentioned them orally, as he
' (Underscoring supplied)
sometimes does
, however, President Harrison
paragraph
g
concludin
his
"In
said:
'In this connection it should be mentioned
that during the recent examination of this bank
the examiner has discussed with a number of the
officers various matters of operating detail.
These discussions have been helpful and all of
his suggestions are receiving careful consideration.'
"President Harrison's letter indicates that there has
been a material change in examination procedure as a result




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"of which he fears that criticisms of the bank and its
operations may have been withheld from the appropriate
officers of the bank, thereby precluding the possibility
of the management effecting the necessary corrections.
Such is not the case. It is true that for some time examiners have followed the practice of not incorporating
in reports of examination of the Federal Reserve banks
camments, suggestions, and minor criticisms of operating
matters where such matters are not indicative of policies
or practices contrary to the Federal Reserve Act, Regulations, or instractions of the Board of Governors and where
corrections are promised or obtained during the examination. Of course, if the criticized matters were so many,
even though none was of a major character, as to reflect
upon the competency of the management of the bank appropriate comments with supporting detail would be incorporated
in the report of examination.
"The copy of President Harrison's letter of June 9
was shown to Mr. Siems, the Board's examiner, who has reported that all matters of criticism and suggestions in
connection with the recent examination of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York were informally discussed with the
officers of the various departments, memoranda of which
matters were left with the officers, and that such matters
were later reviewed with the President.
"As has been the practice in the case of examinations
of all Federal Reserve banks, the report of the recent examination of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, es submitted to the Board, was accompanied by a confidential report for the Board's convenience. Such reports, however,
are solely for the informatior of the Board and the Board
feels that it would be unnecessary and inappropriate to
transmit a copy to the bank examined. For your information it may be stated, however, that the Board's examiner
has reported that the substance of all materiel comments
in the confidential report regarding the operations or
personnel of the bank was made known to President Harrison
in discussions with him during the course of the examination."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Thames, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Kansas City, reading as follows:




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"Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of June 18,
1938, advising the Board of the results of the consideration by your board of directors of the report of a survey
of the Auditing Department of your bank transmitted to
YOU with the Board's letter of April 8, 1938.
"The Board appreciates the completeness of your review of the report of survey and has noted with interest
the views on the various matters expressed by the directors
of your bank and also the changes being made in the auditing procedure."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. McKinney, President of the /ederal Reserve Bank of
Dallas, reading as follows:
"The Board has given careful consideration to your
letter of June 24, 1938 and the information inclosed therewith, regarding the applicability of section 32 of the
Banking Act of 1933 to the services of Mr. George D. Wray
who is a director of the Commercial National Bank in Shreveport and an officer of the Motors Securities Company, Inc.
"Motors Securities Company is engaged in lending
money to finance purchases of automobiles, end it obtains
a substantial part of the money which it lends by issuing
and selling its collateral trust notes, which are secured
by the deposit in trust of the notes of the car owners.
"The president of the national bank submits that
section 32 is not applicable because the Motors Securities Company is not 'primarily engaged' in selling its
collateral trust notes within the meaning of section 32
but is primarily engaged in the business of lending money
on automobiles, the sale of collateral trust notes being
a secondary and incidental activity.
"However, the Board believes that section 32 was designed to terminate certain types of relationships which
Congress felt involved a danger of a conflict of interests.
Since that danger is present whenever the company is engaged to a substantial extent in selling securities, the
Board has interpreted section 32 as including cases where
the selling of securities is one of the primary activities
of the company, even though it is not the chief one. Moreover, the Board has taken the position that a company may




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"be 'primarily engaged' in selling its own obligations
Within the meaning of section 32, as is illustrated by
the ruling published in the Federal Reserve Bulletin for
1934 at page 485, previously referred to.
"In the present case the amount of collateral trust
notes outstanding in the hands of the public is substantial,
averaging about 45 per cent of the amount of the company's
outstanding automobile loans, this proportion being maintained by the sale from time to time of new issues of notes
secured by new automobile loans. In the circumstances,
the Board is of the opinion that the sale of collateral
trust notes is one of the activities in which the company
Is 'primarily engaged' within the meaning of section 32.
"At the conclusion of your letter you call attention
to the fact that the national bank requests a ruling on
the question whether the collateral trust notes are 'stocks,
bonds, or other similar securities/ within the meaning of
the statute. This question was carefully considered in
connection with the Board's letter of June 7 to Mr. Diggs,
Acting Comptroller of the Currency, a copy of which has
been sent to you, and in view of the facts therein stated
(including the fact that they are the obligations of the
company, issued in series, secured by trust indenture, authenticated by the trustee and payable to bearer) the Board
is still of the opinion that they are 'securities' of the
kind referred to in section 32."




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meting adjourned.

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