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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Tuesday, July 28, 1942, at 10:30
El..

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant
to the Chairman
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Leonard, Director of the Division
of Personnel Administration
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General
Counsel
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Counsel
Reference was made to a memorandum prepared under date of
Y 13, 1942, in the Division of Research and Statistics relating
t0 bank Profits, and Mr. Szymczak stated that he had suggested that
this subject be discussed at a meeting of the Board for the purpose
(It determining whether the Board wished to give direction for any
flArther
study of the problem.

A general discussion ensued, during

which the members of the Board agreed that the Board should continue
to m,,
a-4e such studies of the matter as would enable it to determine
the e-,
'flings position of banks and the relation of money rates to




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earnings, particularly in the case of yields from Government securities.

There was also agreement with the suggestion that any study

°f bank earnings should cover a sufficient length of time to include
Periods of depression as well as unusual business activity, and that
in

determining the amount of dividends paid consideration should

be given to capital contributions made by shareholders during the
Period under study.
It was agreed that Mr. Goldenweiser
and Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of
Bank Operations, should collaborate in
continuing the study of the problem in
the light of the discussion at this meeting.
At the request of the Personnel Committee, consideration was
to the question whether the Board should change or abandon the
Pc)lic5r adopted in 1934 that the period of continuous service of Class
C Hi
-4-rectors of Federal Reserve Banks (other than Chairmen and Federal
ReBerve Agents) and of directors of branches should be limited to
six
l'e44's-

The reason for the request was that, if the policy were to be

.13121lied in connection with appointments of
Class C directors for terms
begi nin

January 1, 1943, the Deputy Chairmen of the Federal Reserve

134114 of Boston, Cleveland, and Richmond would be ineligible for reallP°14tment, and that one of the difficulties with the application of

the l'ule was that when it was adopted it was hoped that a similar rement could be brought about for Class A and B directors.

that
had not been accomplished, new Class C directors who were




Since

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aPPointed to replace directors retired in accordance with the sixYear rule were at a disadvantage when serving with Class A and B
directors who were continued beyond the six-year period.
It was suggested that, while the rule was a desirable one
alld should be effective as to all directors, inasmuch as it had not
been adopted generally for Class A and B directors, the Board might
take the position that, pending action by Congress on the matter,
it would abandon the policy as it related to Class C directors, with
the distinct understanding, however, that if at any time, whether
at the end of one or more than one term, it appeared that an incumbent should not be reappointed or that a better man was available
the i
ncumbent would not be retained. There was unanimous agreement
that .
2 since the Board has authority to apply, and by regulation had
411P1
ied, the six-year rule to the Board and Reserve Bank appointees
to the
boards of directors at the branches of Federal Reserve Banks,
the
Policy with respect to such directors should not be changed.
Dnring the course of the discussion, it was proposed that a possible
8°111tion of the problem for the time being would be for the Board to
Irlake an exception to the rule in the case of the three Class C director
e referred to above or to take the position that the six-year rule
811cluld not be applied to Deputy Chairmen, but it was felt that this
1°111cl not be a satisfactory solution of the matter.




At the conclusion of the discussion,
it was agreed unanimously that Mr. Evans,

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with the assistance of Mr. Thurston,
should prepare a draft of a statement
that might be made by the Board in the
event it should decide to abandon the
six-year rule as applied to Class C
directors, and that after the members
of the Board had had an opportunity to
read the draft the matter would be
given further consideration.
Before this meeting the Personnel Committee had also sug-

gested that the Board determine whether it would be desirable to
eAlt the
Division of Research and Statistics to submit a report as
to the stutus of
the various projects under way in the Division, so
that unnecessa

work could be eliminated and a procedure estab-

shed Whereby the progress of the various studies and projects
C°1-11d be properly controlled, and studies could be promptly termillated when the need for them was past.

In connection with this

rIlitter, it was stated that in the report of the survey made of the
'
slou of Research and Statistics last year by Mr. Koppang it was
Neested that a procedure be set up in the Division under which

the 13irector would hold regular meetings with the Assistant Director
atid section heads for the purpose of (a) reporting on major work reeentiv
- completed, in progress, and contemplated in the sections, and
(b) d'
lsoussing the matters with which the Board was immediately cone"fled and on which the research personnel should be working.
Mr. Goldenweiser stated that before Mr. Koppangls report
was
submitted he had put an arrangement into operation under which




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he meets with the section heads on the second Monday of each month,
end more
frequently when necessary, to discuss matters of the kind
referred to, that a report had not been made to the Board, but that
he would be glad to do so if it was desired.
Chairman Eccles stated that the request of the Personnel
C°ramittee was not in any sense a criticism of the Division but had
been

made with the thought that it would be helpful to the Board in

determin
ing the extent to which the present personnel of the Divisi°n could undertake any additional work that might be found to be
desirable in the future, and that to this end he would suggest that
Gadenweiser be requested to submit to the Board a statement of
(1) the

regular work being done by the Division and the personnel

enpa
gsu in that work and (2) the special studies and other work of
ePecial nature being done in the Division and the personnel ast0 that work.
This suggestion was approved unanimously.
There was then presented a letter dated July 16, 1942, from
4781 Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland,
ellei°eing bills from Squire, Sanders & Dempsey, counsel for the
tam,
for the following legal services rendered to the Bank for
the

firm was not compensated by the regular retainer fee:




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In connection with foreign funds control .
$ 250.00
Services prior to April 16, 1942, in connection with Regulation V and Executive
Order 9112
.. 2,500.00
Services from April 16 to June 30, 1942,
in connection with Regulation V and
Executive Order 9112 for the account of
the War and Navy Departments
5,000.00
In connection with other special matters ..
3,500.00
•

•

The letter stated that at the present time the full time of two men
from the legal firm was required in connection with closing Regulati°n V loans and the issuance of guarantees, that these services
w°uld be required as long as the present volume of applications continued, and that during such period the firm expected to bill the
Bank at the rate of $2,000 a month for these services.

The letter

I'equested that the Board approve the payment of the bills submitted
and that it indicate whether it had any objection to compensation of
C0'nsel in the manner outlined.
Mr. McKee stated that it appeared that the Cleveland Bank
was dc)ing a considerable amount of legal work in connection with
liegulation V loans made in its district that was not being done by
41Y of the other Federal Reserve Banks, and that the question in'y.
°1ed was whether, if the Bank were going to continue to perform
these

services, it should employ an attorney on a salary basis who

e°111d take care
of the routine legal work of the Bank at a consid4134 smaller cost and continue to use the firm of Squire, Sanders
&Dem
--PeeY for consultation on special matters. Mr. McKee made the




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turther statement that he and Mr. Szymczak discussed this matter
ve.L
with Mr. Fleming, President of the Cleveland Bank, over the telePhone yesterday and told him that, if the Bank were going to conthe present procedure with respect to Regulation V loans and
guarantees, the Board probably would take the position that a fulltime attorney should be employed on a salary basis.

He also said

there was some question whether reimbursement from the War and Navy
13eP3.rtments
for the expenses incurred by the Bank on their account
could be
obtained, particularly in view of the fact that other Federal

Reserve Banks were handling the matter without substantially

increased costs for legal services, and that in view of all the circIllietanoes it had been suggested that Mr. Vest go to Cleveland in
the
near future to review the whole situation and make a report to
the Board.

Upon motion by Mr. McKee, this suggestion
was approved unanimously, with the understanding
that the Board would not be willing to approve
an arrangement under which a monthly payment of
$2,000 would be made to Squire, Sanders & Dempsey
as proposed in Mr. Hays' letter, and that it
would favor the employment by the Bank during
the emergency period of a full-time attorney on
a salary basis and the continued retention of
the firm of Squire, Sanders & Dempsey for consultation on special matters.
By unanimous vote, payment of the bills
submitted with Mr. Hays' letter was approved.
At this point, Messrs. Thurston, Goldenweiser, Leonard,
breg,
-"pelbisI
and Vest left the meeting, and the action stated with




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respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then
taken by
the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on July 27, 1942, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated July 25, 1942, from Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division of Research and Statistics, submitting the
resignation of Miss Carol Hubbard as a clerk in that Division, to
become effective as of the close of business on July 28, 1942, and
recommending that the resignation be accepted as of that date.
The resignation was accepted.
Letter to Mr. Paddock, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Boston,
reading as follows:
"As requested in your letter of July 23, 1942, the
Board of Governors approves the increase in salary of
Dana D. Sawyer, Manager of the Securities Exchange Divi-on and Alternate Assistant Federal Reserve Agent, from
0,800 to l4,000 per annum, effective August 1, 1942."

V

Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Klages, Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve
412k of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"As requested in your letter of July 16, 1942, the
!oard approves the payment of salary at the rate of
24/500 per annum to Mr. W. Martin Morrison, Assistant
Cashier, effective August 1, 1942, for the period endApril 30, 1943.
"The Board likewise approves the payment of salary
at the rate of 14,600 per annum to Mr. Clyde Harrell,




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"Assistant Cashier, effective August 1, 1942, for the
Period ending April 30, 1943."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sproul, Chairman of the Presidents Conference
C°mmittee on Bank Examination Procedure, Federal Reserve Bank of
new York, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of July 20 re—
garding the study being given to the matter of making
some modifications in present examination procedure.
"We shall be glad to furnish your Committee with
copies of the replies received to the Board's letter
of July 7 to the Reserve Banks on this subject and
shall welcome the opportunity of discussing the mat—
ter with the Committee. Replies from all of the banks
have not yet been received; when the remaining replies
are received we will forward copies to you. Then,
after having given consideration to these replies)
we can arrange for a conference.n
Approved unanimously

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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