View original document

The full text on this page is automatically extracted from the file linked above and may contain errors and inconsistencies.

6

Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

July 25, 1963

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors
Of the Federal Reserve System on the above date.
It is proposed to place in the record of policy actions
required to be kept under the provisions of section 10 of the
Federal Reserve Act an entry covering the item in this set of
minutes commencing on the page and dealing with the subject
referred to below:

Page 12

Approval of a discount rate of 3-1/2
per cent for the Federal Reserve Bank
of Kansas City.

Should you have any question with regard to the minutes,
it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office.
Otherwise, please initial below. If you were present at the
meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
?_rou were not present, your initials will indicate only that you
nave seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Thursday, July 25, 1963. The Board met in the Board Room
at 10:00 a.m.
Present:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Connell, Controller
Koch, Associate Director, Division of
Research and Statistics
Furth, Adviser, Division of International
Finance
Conkling, Assistant Director, Division
of Bank Operations
Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Goodman, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Benner, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Langham, Assistant Director, Division of
Data Processing
Spencer, General Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Bakke, Senior Attorney, Legal Division
Veenstra, Chief, Call Report Section,
Division of Bank Operations
Kakalec, Assistant to the Controller,
Office of the Controller

7/25/63

-2-

Circulated or distributed items.

The following items, copies

Of which are attached to these minutes under the respective item numbers
indicated, were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to State Bank of Albany, Albany, New York,
approving the establishment of a branch at 1245
Washington Avenue.

1

Letter to First National City Bank, New York City,
authorizing the establishment of a branch in the
Vallejo District, Mexico, D. F., Mexico.

2

Inquiry regarding distribution of coins (Item No. 3).
•

There had

been distributed under date of July 22, 1963, a draft of letter to Coin
World, a numismatic publication, replying to a letter of June

7, 1963,

submitting a list of questions about Federal Reserve distribution of
c°in, particularly silver dollars.

The draft of reply included as an

attachment a copy of the questions and a draft of proposed responses.
At the Board's request Mr. Farrell commented, pointing out that
C°in World had submitted questions typifying those presented by its
readers, and that the request seemed to be a sincere attempt on the part
cf this publication to obtain the position of the System on the distribution of coin, information about which presumably would be helpful to
c°in dealers and collectors.

Mr. Farrell noted that Coin World had

addressed its letter of June 7 to Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director of

the Division of Bank Operations, and that certain questions called for
an expression of individual opinion; however, the proposed responses

'4M'It"
7/25/63

-3-

had been drafted in a manner that would not reflect an individual
opinion.
In discussion, several questions were raised relating to numismatic publications.

Governor Robertson inquired whether a Board reply

in the manner proposed might not constitute, in a sense, a contribution
toward the profits of Coin World, in reply to which Mr. Farrell stated
that this publication was considered to be a reputable magazine in the
numismatic field and was widely read.

Also, Coin World had made an

effort to develop specific questions; and a substantial portion of the
information being furnished had been made available in the past in reply
to other inquiries on the same subject.
Further discussion of the point raised by Governor Robertson
concluded with a consensus that the Board should reply to the questions
and that if there were subsequent inquiries for the same information,

a copy of the Board's reply to Coin World could be made available.
Discussion then turned to the individual questions and the draft
resPonses.
Governor Balderston called attention to one question that asked
whether it was fair for a member bank to allow a coin dealer to pay for

the Special privilege of acquiring sizable numbers of silver dollars,
and yet deny a collector a small number of silver dollars if he was
willing to pay the handling charges, the draft response to which indicated

that this matter was beyond the area of Federal Reserve responsibility.

-4-

7/25/63

Governor Balderston pointed out that this answer might be taken out
Of context.

He suggested that the answer be changed to state that this

was not a matter covered by statute, and that it was believed to be
beyond the jurisdiction of supervisory authorities and subject to the
discretion of commercial bank management.
There being agreement with the change suggested by Governor
Balderston, the letter and proposed responses to the questions submitted
by Coin World were approved subject to the change decided upon at this
zeeting.

A copy of the letter is attached as Item No. 3.

It was under-

stood that copies of the letter and its enclosure would be sent to the
Federal Reserve Banks.
Messrs. Daniels, Goodman, and Bakke withdrew from the meeting
,
at this point and Mr. Holland, Adviser, Division of Research and Statistics
eatered
the room.
Management succession survey (Item No.

4). At the meeting on

jillY 8, 1963, the Board was informed that a letter dated July 3, 1963,
end draft questionnaires had been received from Chairman Patman of the
Rouse Banking and Currency Committee regarding a proposed survey of
Illsured commercial banks with respect to (a) compensation and succession
interest rates on
Of bank management, (b) correspondent banking,and (c)
business loans.

The letter requested suggestions on the form and content

the questionnaires and inquired whether the Board would be willing to
h

c:11e their collection and tabulation.

In discussion at the July

8

fleeting, it was pointed out that the draft questionnaires had been sent
'

7/25/63

-5-

to the Reserve Banks for comment, with advice to Chairman Patman that
this procedure was being followed.

As to the question whether the Board

would be adverse to handling the collection and tabulation of the completed
questionnaires, it was understood that this subject would be considered
further following the receipt of comments from the Federal Reserve Banks.
There now had been distributed a memorandum dated July 24, 1963,
regarding the bank management survey.

The memorandum stated that in

accordance with an understanding with the staff of the House Banking
and Currency Committee, attention had been concentrated first on this
questionnaire and that technical comments from the Reserve Banks and
the Board's staff had been conveyed to the Committee staff.

The memo-

randum went on to discuss certain features of processing the survey, it
being indicated that the total amount of programming that would be needed
was still uncertain.

It was estimated, however, that a cost of approxi-

mately $7,000-•.:,000 would result.

The survey would probably necessitate

contracting for outside services since a large part of the workload
involved key punching, programming, and tabulation.
The value of the data that the Committee might derive from the
information on the bank management survey was then discussed in the
memorandum, it being brought out that primary reliance by the Federal
Reserve System in this respect was placed on the bank examination process.
Rowever, information from that source could not be made available to
the Public nor was it desirable to draw upon examination reports as an

Z413!3'
-6-

7/25/63

alternative source of the information sought by the Committee.

Turning

to the subject of respondent and Congressional relations, the memorandum
indicated that Reserve Bank comments on the questionnaire emphasized
that probably there would be a problem of respondent relations, with
the possibility of substantial nonresponse, large scale follow-up activity,
and need for resort to the subpoena power by the House Banking and Currency
Committee. The Reserve Banks had suggested minimum System involvement.
The memorandum pointed out that there was not uniform staff agreement with respect to involvement in the survey.

In general, however,

the staff concern was that Federal. Reserve activity with respect to
the questionnaire be limited to technical advice on survey design and
routine editing, key punching, and tabulation of results, with supplemental
assistance from outside service bureaus to the extent necessary.

If

the recommended arrangements appeared feasible for the handling of the
bank management questionnaire, similar treatment might be accorded the
correspondent banking survey.

A different treatment might be in order

for the proposed interest rate survey, since the System would have
greater interest in, and need for, such data.
There was attached to the memorandum of July 24 a draft of letter
to Chairman Patman commenting on the management survey and expressing
the view that it would be appropriate that the questionnaire be sent to

all respondent
the

banks under a covering letter from the Committee, with

replies addressed to the Committee.

The letter indicated, however, that

7/25/63

-7-

the Board would be willing to undertake routine editing, processing,
and tabulation of the replies as a service to the Committee.

The letter

also pointed out that processing of the survey would appear to involve
a substantial expenditure of both staff time and money.

In this respect,

inquiry was made whether the Committee's request for assistance with
the survey was intended to include the absorption by the Board of such
costs.
At the Board's request, Mr. Holland commented, his remarks being
based substantially on information presented in the memorandum of July 24.
In discussion, Governor Mills observed that without question any
survey of this kind was likely to be resented by a great many bankers.

He thought there was much to be said for the view of the Reserve Banks
that the questionnaire should be sent out under a covering letter from
the House Banking and Currency Committee, and not from the Reserve Banks,
and that responses be directed to the Committee rather than the Reserve
Banks.
It was noted that the proposed letter to Chairman Patman, as
dzafted, asked whether the request for Board assistance was intended to
include absorption of certain costs connected with the survey.

Reference

l'ae made, during consideration of this aspect of the matter, to the
chain banking survey that had been undertaken in 1962 at the request of
the House Select Committee on Small Business, some of the cost of which
the Board had assumed.

It was brought out that certain information gathered

2441
7/25/63

-8-

in the chain banking survey was felt to be useful to the Federal Reserve
System; however, the results of the survey of management succession
would be of more doubtful benefit.

On the other hand, it might be

said that the management survey related to a phase of the banking
Picture and that it would also be of interest.

It was noted that the

estimated out-of-pocket expense involved was relatively small; however,
if the Board assumed the cost, that might set a precedent for other requests.
Agreement was than indicated with editorial changes in the draft
Of letter to Chairman Patman, and the letter was approved unanimously
with the understanding that it would be changed to reflect such changes.
A coPy of the letter in the form sent to Chairman Patman is attached
as Item No. 4
.
.
Examination reports.

Following approval of the letter to Chair-

man Patman, Governor Robertson directed attention to a statement in
that letter which indicated the Federal Reserve followed carefully the
quality of bank management and the availability of capable succession
in each State member bank through its examination and supervisory contacts.
lei1.h reference to this statement, Governor Robertson suggested that a
134rticular effort should be made by the bank examiner to bring problem
involving bank management and succession to the attention of a bank's
board of directors.
In this connection Mr. Benner noted that the confidential section

°r

a report of examination included a question concerned with bank

24el
7/25/63
management.

The examiner was required to render a brief appraisal of

management and also of the board of directors.

The practice and policy

had been for the Federal Reserve Bank to follow up any problems of this
kind that were developed in the confidential section of an examination
report.
After discussion, it was understood that further consideration
would be given by the Division of Examinations to the matter mentioned
by Governor Robertson.
Messrs. Farrell, Johnson, Connell, Conkling, Benner, Leavitt,
Longhorn, Veenstra, and Kakalec then withdrew from the meeting.
Questions submitted by House Banking and Currency Committee.
At the invitation of the House Banking and Currency Committee, members
°f the Board appeared before the Committee on July 22, 1963, in connection with Board approval of the change effective July 17, 1963, in
the rates on discounts and advances at Federal Reserve Banks.

Sub-

sequently, the Committee submitted a list of supplementary questions
for inclusion in the record, a copy of which had been distributed to
each member of the Board with a covering memorandum dated July 23 from
Messrs. Young (Adviser to the Board) and Noyes.
There also had been distributed in this connection a memorandum
from Governor Balderston dated July 24, 1963, discussing the relation
of economic growth to money supply, comment on which subject had been
invited by Congressman Reuss during the appearance before the Committee.

7/25/63

-10-

In discussion Mr. Noyes called attention to the variety of
questions submitted by the Committee, noting that while some questions
were addressed to Chairman Martin, others seemed to be addressed to
the Board in general with the exception of one question (numbered 11)
•

apparently directed to Governor Mills.

The matter now being raised

vas one of procedure with respect to the preparation of replies to the
respective questions.
Following discussion regarding the form of response to be made,
it was understood that the staff would prepare draft replies for consideration by the Board, except that Governor Mills would prepare the
response to question number 11.
Article by Beryl Sprinkel.

Mr. Noyes referred to a recent letter

from Senator Proxmire that apparently had been received by each member
°I) the Board requesting an evaluation and views on a study by Mr. Beryl
W. Sprinkel, Vice President of Harris Trust and Savings Bank, Chicago,
Illinois, entitled Relative Economic Growth Rates and Fiscal-Monetary
P
olicies.
There ensued a brief discussion regarding Senator Proxmire's
l'equest and the manner in which it should be handled, during which
Governor Mills indicated that he had responded to Senator Proxmire's
letter.

There was general agreement with a suggestion that the

handling of the letter from Senator Proxmire should be left to the diseretion of each member of the Board, but that the staff would draft for

i

-11-

7/25/63

consideration a general reply that might be used by members who wished
to do so.
Request for information regarding bank stock owned by Class B
directors.

Mr. Sherman reported that a request had been received from

staff of the House Banking
Professor Harvey C. Mansfield, a member of the
and Currency Committee, for information on bank stock owned by Class B
directors of Federal Reserve Banks.

In this connection Mr. Sherman

noted that at the time of Chairman Martin's appearance before the House
2, 1954, question was raised
Committee on Government Operations on June
regarding bank shareholdings by Class B directors.

Subsequently, in

order that the Board might have current information, it was decided by
the Board at a meeting on June 11, 1954, to have each Reserve Bank
contact its Class B directors with a view to ascertaining the extent
Of their bank shareholdings.

Similar information was obtained by the

Board through the Reserve Banks in 1956 and was furnished in summary
form to the House Banking and Currency Committee, at the Committee's
request, at that time.

Mr. Sherman went on to point out that there is

no statutory provision prohibiting Class B directors from owning bank
stock.
Martin noted that it
In the discussion that followed, Chairman
shoUld be made clear to Professor Mansfield that the information obtained
several years ago did not reveal any questionable situations and that

-12-

7/25/63

there would appear to be no particular reason to undertake such a
survey at this time in the absence of a statutory requirement against
holdings of bank stocks by Class B directors.
There being no indication of views different from those expressed
by Chairman Martin, it was understood that Mr. Cardon would talk further
With Professor Mansfield on that basis.
Mr. Koch then withdrew from the meeting.
Balance of payments.

Mr. Furth presented for the information

of the Board a brief report on current U. S. balance of payments figures.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: A telegram was received
today from the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas
City stating that the directors of that Bank
had established, subject to review and determination by the Board of Governors, a rate
of 3-1/2 per cent (rather than 3 per cent)
on discounts for and advances to member banks
under sections 13 and 13a of the Federal Reserve
Act, a rate of 4 per cent on advances under
section 10(b), and a rate of 4-1/2 per cent
on advances to individuals, partnerships, and
corporations other than member banks under the
last paragraph of section 13. Pursuant to the
authorization given at the meeting on July 16,
1963, the Secretary informed the Kansas City
Reserve Bank by telegram of the Board's approval
of the rates established by the Bank's directors,
effective July 26, 1963. A press statement was
issued at 4:00 p.m. EDT, all Reserve Banks and
branches were notified by telegram, and arrangements were made for publication of a notice in
the Federal Register.

7/25/63

-13Pursuant to the recommendation contained in a
memorandum from the Division of Administrative
Services, Governor Shepardson today approved on
behalf of the Board termination of the employment of Elsie E. Perkins (Anderson), Charwoman
in that Division, effective immediately.

24/,17
Item No. 1
7/25/63

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 25, 1963

Board of Directors,
State Bank of Albany,
Albany, New York.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System approves the establishment by
State Bank of Albany, Albany, New York, of an
in-town branch at 1245 Washington Avenue, provided the branch is established within one year
from the date of this letter.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.
(The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the
Board also had approved a six-month extension
of the period allowed to establish the branch;
and that if an extension should be requested,
the procedure prescribe in the Board's letter
of November 9, 1962 (S-1846), should be followed.)

.244 4
Item No. 2
7/25/63

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

.....
'00VCC114'..

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
>1.
w•
Li •

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

'

R 0.•
•••••••

July 25, 1963

First National City Bank,
399 Park Avenue
New York 22, New York.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
authorizes First National City Bank, New York, pursuant to the
provisions of Section 25 of the Federal Reserve Act, to establish
an additional branch in Mexico, D. F., Mexico, to be located in
the Vallejo District; and to operate and maintain such branch
subject to the provisions of such Section.
Unless the branch is actually established and opened
for business on or before August 1, 1964, all rights granted hereby shall be deemed to have been abandoned and the authority hereby
granted will automatically terminate on that date.
Please advise the Board of Governors, in writing, through
the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, when the branch is opened for
the
business, furnishing information as to the exact location of
branch.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael

Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.
Board also had
(The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the
to establish
aflowed
period
aPProved a six-month extension of the
the
requested,
be
should
the branch; and that if an extension
November
9,1962
of
letter
Procedure prescribed in the Board's
(S-1846), should be followed.)

44
BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No.
7/25/63

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 26, 1963.

Marion Russell,
t4xecutive
ir8.

Editor,
Coin World,
SidneY News Building,
SidneY, Ohio.
1)ear Mrs. Russell:

This refers to your letter of June 7, 1963, submitting
%ist of questions typifying those posed by readers of Coin World
40 ut the Federal Reserve distribution of coin, particularly silver
d°11ars.
Enclosed are answers to your questions, which have been
rtura
bered for convenient reference and also rearranged from the order
•
wiach they were submitted.
It is hoped the answers will enable Coin World to make
satisf_
4ctory responses to inquiries from readers. If desired, the
ewers may be published in their entirety.
Very truly yours,

Merritt She an,
Secretary.
Erleic'sure

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item N5)
7/25/63

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

July 26, 1963.

The Honorable Wright Patman,
Chairman,
Banking and Currency Committee,
House of Representatives,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Chairman:
This is in further reply to your letter of July 3,
concerning three sample surveys of commercial banks that your
Cftmittee is considering undertaking.
In accordance with arrangements made with members of your
staff, the Federal Reserve System has concentrated its review of
these matters first upon the proposed questionnaire regarding bank
Personnel and provision for management succession. Numerous technical comments and suggestions have already been conveyed to your
staff representatives regarding the content and design of this
questionnaire. The aim of these suggestions has been to facilitate
editing
and tabulation procedures, eliminate duplication of data
already available or planned to be available to the Committee,
!educe respondent burden, and minimize the problems of nonresponse.
°astheless, we feel compelled to point out that substantial ad!
partly
,1,_rerse
be e respondent reaction may be engendered by the survey,
because
partly
it deals with some sensitive subjects and
14c)re and more bankers have been objecting to the burdens of reP°rting in a variety of special surveys as well as regular series.
Attention has also been given to your inquiry as to
Aether the Board would be adverse to handling the collection and
tabulation of these questionnaires. The discharge of its super8°rY responsibilities in this field would not ordinarily lead
that
the Board to
the distribution of a questionnaire such as
the
carefully
q 8igned by your staff. The Federal Reserve follows
succescapable
,1alitY of bank management and the availability of
81
vrn in each State member bank through its examination and supere
are
c_ °rY contacts. We understand that broadly similar procedures
011owed by the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit
o_surance Corporation in the exercise of their supervisory authority
ver
respectively.
national banks and insured nonmember banks

2451
To:

The Honorable Wright Patman

-2-

Since the questionnaire under discussion was originally
developed by the Committee staff and the analysis and publication
of the results of the survey will be undertaken by the Committee
and its staff, it seems appropriate that the forwarding of the
questionnaire to all respondent banks be done under a covering
letter from the Committee and that the replies be addressed to the
Committee. This will permit suitable follow-up actions directly
by the Committee or its staff in instances of nonresponse to part
or all of the questionnaire. The Board will stand ready to undertake the subsequent routine editing, processing, and tabulation
of the replies as a service to the Committee, within the limitations upon extent and timing of work to be done that are inevitable
because of a need to discharge other assignments. In this connection, it can be expected that Board personnel will refer the more
s ubstantive editorial questions to the Committee staff for the
exercise of their professional judgment or, if necessary, for the
Purpose of obtaining clarification from respondents.
While estimates of the size of the task represented by
the survey must remain tentative until specifications are complete,
it appears to involve a substantial expenditure of both staff time
and money. Because of the press of other assignments upon the
Board staff, it would be necessary to contract with an outside
service bureau for the card punching and preparation of computer
Programs. The resulting out-of-pocket cost to the Board is
.!-ikely to be in the neighborhood of $8,000 at a minimum. The
160ard assumes that the Committee request for assistance with the
urveY was intended to include reimbursement by the Committee to
!
Lbe Board for such out-of-pocket costs.
You may rest assured that the Board staff will continue
Provide technical advice on questions of survey design, tabu' tion procedures, and methods of analysis whenever requested by
the Committee's representatives. After the first priority accorded
,13 the considerations of the bank management questionnaire, the
Reserve Banks and the Board staff have been asked to turn
their
_ qeir attention to a similar consideration of the proposed correPondent banking survey and the survey of charges on business
in that order. The first informal comments on these surveys
have
already been exchanged between the Board and Committee staffs.
"on as the focus and content of these surveys have been
settled,
o
the Board will write the Committee further concerning
ssible collection and tabulation arrangements for these later
surveys.
to

I

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.
Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.