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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

July 25, 1962

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
With respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
You were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Wednesday, July 25, 1962.

The Board met in the Board Room

at 1000 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston Vice Chairman
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Mitchell
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board and Director,
Division of International Finance
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Goodman, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Landry, Assistant to the Secretary
Mr. Bakke, Senior Attorney, Legal Division
Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations
Mr. Langham, Chief, Call Report Section, Division
of Bank Operations

Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the

F
ederal Reserve Bank of Atlanta on July 24, 1962, of the rates on discounts
841°1 advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously, with the
llriclerstanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that Bank.
Circulated or distributed items.

The following items, which had

been circulated or distributed to the Board and copies of which are
attached to these minutes under the respective item numbers indicated,
14"e approved unanimously:

7/25/62

-2Item No.

Letter to The First National Bank of Mondovi,
Mondovi, Wisconsin, approving its application
for fiduciary powers.

1

Letter to Mr. Joseph Rogers, President, The
P'rat National Bank of San Jose, San Jose,
California, replying to his letter of July 13,
1962, to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
regarding the use of branch deposit information.

2

The letter to Mr. Rogers (Item No. 2) was approved in a form
reflecting certain suggestions made by members of the Board at this
Meeting, the principal purpose of which was to emphasize that although

in certain circumstances it might be necessary to use branch deposit
clata in such manner that figures for offices of individual banks could
be identified, the Board would continue, as far as possible, to protect

the confidentiality of unpublished information for individual banks.
It was understood that edited copies of the letter would be sent to all
F
ederal Reserve Banks for their information and that copies would also

be sent to the Bureau of the Budget, the Comptroller of the Currency,

44a the

Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
Report on competitive factors (Baltimore-Laurel, Maryland).

there had been distributed copies of a draft report to the Federal
IDePosit Insurance Corporation on the competitive factors involved in the
°Posed merger of State Bank of Laurel, Laurel, Maryland, into The
'
151
2qUitable Trust Company, Baltimore, Maryland.
The report, which contained the following conclusion, was
-%.2.1:2y2s1 unanimously for transmission to the Corporation:

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This proposal would not have an adverse effect on competition. However, the merger would further the trend in Maryland
toward concentration of banking resources in a few large banks.
Mr. McClintock withdrew from the meeting at this point.
Amendment to H. R. 8874 (Items 3 and 4).

Copies had been

distributed of a draft of letter to Chairman Spence of the House
Committee on Banking and Currency responding to his request for the
130ardi8 views on a substitute amendment to H. R. 8874, relating to bank
service corporations, that had been adopted by Subcommittee No. 1 of the
eoinmittee.

The draft letter would note that, as indicated in its report

slkmitted under date of March 1, 1962, the Board favored the objective
°f the bill. It believed that the substitute amendment adopted by the
84bcommittee would carry out substantially the suggestions made in the
e
ttrlier report.
There had also been distributed copies of a draft of letter
to co
agressman Moorhead in reply to his request for comments on a letter
ci ted July 23, 1962, from Secretary of Banking Myers of Pennsylvania
Q°11eerning the substitute amendment to H. R. 8874. The letter to Congress4414 Moorhead would state that the Board believed the substitute amendment
8110111d not be considered as increasing in any way Federal supervisory
13Wers over State banks.
In a discussion of the proposed legislation, during which it
Iras indicated the full Committee was meeting in executive session today,
l'eservations were expressed by some members of the staff with regard to

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Section 31 which in essence would require each bank service corporation,
subject to certain qualifications, to offer its services to all applicant
banks.

However, it was not considered advisable by those holding such

reservations to suggest deletion of Section 3 at the risk of threatening
favorable action on the bill.
Following this discussion, unanimous approval was given to the
letters to Chairman Spence and Congressman Moorhead, copies of which are
attached as Items 3 and 41 respectively.
Whitney Holding Corporation (Item No. 5).

By order dated May 3,

1962, approval was given, Governor Robertson dissenting, to an application
by Whitney Holding Corporation to form a bank holding company.

Sub-

sequently, certain parties filed suit in the U. S. Circuit Court of
APPeals for the New Orleans District to vacate the Board's decision.
14/4 July 23, 1962, Mr. Malcolm L. Monroe, attorney for Whitney Holding
CorPoration, in a telephone conversation with Mr. Hexter requested that
exhibits M-3, M-4, and N-5 to the Corporation's application to the Board
be treated as confidential and omitted from the appeal record.
Copies had been distributed of a draft of letter to Mr. Monroe
advising that the Board felt obliged to place the complete record in the
Ilarlds of the Department of Justice and suggesting that any request for
e°4fidential treatment of portions thereof should be addressed to that
i)ePartment.
After Mr. Bakke had discussed the circumstances surrounding the
I'equest by Mr. Monroe, the letter, a copy of which is attached as Item No. 51
aPproved unanimously.

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Messrs. Cardon, Noyes, Daniels, Goodman, Bakke, and Laugh=
then withdrew from the meeting.
Report by Mr. Young.
Itt

Mr. Young reported on his attendance

June meeting in Paris of the Economic Policy Committee of the

Nanization for Economic Cooperation and Development and at a July
Ifteting of Working Party 3 of the Organization.

He also referred to

certain conversations in London with officials of the British Treasury
44i the Bank of England.

The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson
today approved on behalf of the Board
a letter to the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York (attached Item No. 6) approving
the appointment of Barry F. Bosak as
assistant examiner.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Item NO. 1
7/25/62

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
AO0FolLtit1 OFFICIAL
1

TIIE tiIIA140

July 25, 1962

L(3urd of Directors,
The first National thank of Nondovi,
_sconsin.
Ge

ntlemen:

ilie board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has
conrAderation Lo your application for fiduciary powers and
lfir4n t
l'irst National bank of Mondovi authority to act, when
:!t. in contravention of State or local law, as trustee, executor,
7urnlnistrator, reEistrar of stocks and bonds, guardian of estates,
nee, receiver, committee of estates of lunatics, or in any
'
o rier fiduciary capacity in which state banks, trust companies, or
her Corporations which come into competition with national banks
:
re permitted to act under the laws of the State of Wisconsin. The
,4erc1se of such rights shall be subject to the provisions of
(
!
r ction 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act and Regulation F of the
;
of Governors of the Federal Reserve .:ystem.
A formal cerLificate indicating the fiduciary powers that
Your
bank
is
now authorized to exercise will be forwarded in due
course.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Llizabeth L. Uarmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item NO. 2
7/25/62

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDE NCL
TO THE BOARD

rint
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July 25, 1962.

Mr. Joseph Rogers, President,
!he First National Bank of San Jose,
°an Jose 8, California.
Dear mr. Rogers:
The Board has considered your letter of July 13, 1962,
forwarded by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, regarding the
Use to be made of your bank's report of deposits of its San Jose
°ffices and its branches in other communities as of June 30.
As stated in the Reserve Bank's letter of June 18 requesting
this report, publication of branch data for individual banks is not
anticipated, except as that may be necessary with respect to appli?ations for mergers or branches, or under the Bank Holding Company
t. The primary purpose of the request is to obtain from member
arlks the basic data needed for preparing the pamphlet, Distribution
b! Eanly Counties and Standard Metropolitan Areas, which
- (1?_m9,1 tsr
?e last published as of June 15, 1960. (The Federal Deposit
'hsurance Corporation collects the data needed for nonmember insured
baake.)

V

The Board goes to great lengths to avoid disclosure of
l1,141Published information regarding individual banks, and its statisi
iteal tabulations avoid groups containing less than three banks.
!aPPreciates the feeling that you express regarding figures for
4.
'clividual offices of your bank, but it is not possible to give
"surance that under no circumstances would a figure for an office
a group of offices of an individual bank become public.
In considering applications for mergers or branches or
11 1 der the Bank Holding Company Act, it is occasionally necessary
,/.
i'Ll°,Prepare statistical arrays such as the following, which eventu47 may become public information, in setting forth the degree of
b,,,_
4ut-ing concentration in a city or county:
'

t

Mr. Josuph Rogers

nank
A
B
C
D

Number of
offices
10
7
3
1

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Deposits at
(date)
$800
600
400
200

Percentage distribution
of deposits
40
30
20
10

,11 such an array, the deposits of the single office of bank D are
Ilisolosed. This single office may be a bank with no branches, in
ich ease there would, of course, be no disclosure of unpublished
formation. It may, however, be a single office of a bank with
°ranches.

n

Your letter refers to the statement in a letter you
from the Comptroller of the Currency dated June 5, 1962
i341dicating that participation of national banks in the Board's
r_anch deposit survey is at their discretion. In order to correct
impression that this report is optional on the part of member
pariks) there is quoted below the text of a wire sent to the
,
residents of all Federal Reserve Banks, with a copy to the
troller of the Currency, in response to an earlier inquiry on
this point,
r

0e

4

4
,e-Lved

"Question has been raised as to whether report of
member bank deposits by branches referred to in Board
letter of June 5, 1962, is a mandatory report. Such
report is required by the Board pursuant to Section
11(a) of the Federal Reserve Act, and any member bank
inquiring as to the necessity for supplying information
Should be informed accordingly."
You may be sure that the Board gave careful consideration
:_the need for collecting branch deposit data prior to reaching a
ision that a report in this form should be required, and careful
.flsideration also will be given to the manner in which data for
individual bank may be used.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item NO.
7/25/62

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

July 25, 1962

The Honorable Brent Spence,
Chairman, Committee on Banking and Currency,
House of Representatives,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Chairman:
This is in
Board's views on the
adopted yesterday by
Banking and Currency

response to your request for the
substitute amendment to H. R. 8874,
Subcommittee No. 1 of the House
Committee.

As indicated to you in the Board's report submitted under date of March 1, the Board favors the objective of this bill. The substitute amendment adopted by
the Subcommittee in substance would carry out the suggestions made by the Board in its earlier report, and the
Board is especially pleased to note that the new bill
includes in section 5 provisions that are needed to
insure adequate regulation and examination of bank services performed off the bank's premises. The Board,
accordingly, recommends enactment of the bill as amended.
Sincerely yours,

Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.

3

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No.

OF THE

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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

40
:
OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

July 25, 1962

The Honorable William S. Moorhead,
House of Representatives,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Moorhead:
This is in reply to your request for the Board's
comments on a letter dated July 23 to you from Robert L.
Myers, Jr., Secretary of Banking, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Mr. Myers' comments are addressed, of course, to
H. R. 8874 as introduced and the amendments proposed by the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation at the hearings on the
bill. The Board is of the opinion that the substitute amendment adopted by Subcommittee No. 1 of the House Banking and
Currency Committee on yesterday should not be considered as
increasing in any way Federal supervisory powers over State
banks. Unlike the bill as introduced, there is no provision in
the substitute requiring approval by a Federal agency of any
bank's investment in a bank service corporation. Rather, the
bill relaxes existing restrictions in Federal banking laws on
such investments. Section 5 of the substitute bill does insure
that Federal agencies will continue to have regulatory and examination powers necessary to carry out their existing responsibilities with respect to bank supervision, but it does not in any
W4Y increase presently existing Federal authority over banks.
Sincerely yours,

Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Item NO. 5

OF THE

7/25/62

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 25, 1962

Malcolm L. Monroe, Esq.,
Whitney Building,
New Orleans 12, Louisiana.
Re: Your ref. #1562-131-D-3
Dear Mr. Monroe:
This will acknowledge, with thanks, receipt of extra
2°Pes of certain exhibits to the application of the Whitney National
flank in connection with the Whitney Holding Corporation matter for
use in preparing the record on appeal.
With respect to your telephone conversation of July 23, 1962
with Mr. Hexter, requesting that exhibits M-31 M-4, and N-5 to the
application be treated as confidential and omitted from the appeal
record, this is to advise you that the Board feels obliged to place
the complete record in the hands of the Department of Justice and
71Y request for confidential treatment of portions thereof should be
addressed to that Department. Accordingly, it is suggested that you
31-.14ish to communicate with the Assistant Attorney General, Civil
7,
111
‘
your request.
4
r1sion,
attention Mrs. Pauline B. Heller, regarding
the record
of
filing
on view of the time schedule relating to the
such
that
suggested
en appeal with the Court, it is further
no
Justice
of
be in the hands of the Department
later
4-ater
than August 11 1962.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No.

6

7/25/62

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 25, 1962

Mr. Howard D. Crosse, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
New York 451 New York.
Dear Mr. Crosse:
In accordance with the request contained in
Your letter of July 19, 1962, the Board approves the appointmant of Barry F. Bosak as an assistant examiner for
the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Please advise the
effective date of the appointrent.
Very truly yours,
(signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.