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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Thursday, July 24, 1941, at 10:45

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director, Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Hansen, Special Economic Adviser,
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Gardner, Senior Economist, Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Weyl, Junior Economist, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Hammond, Chief, Correspondence and
Publications Section, Secretary's
Office
Mr. Bach, Special Assistant, Correspondence
and Publications Section, Secretary's
Office
The meeting was called primarily for the purpose of discussing
with representatives of the Division of Research and Statistics "Problems of international trade and exchange", which is topic number II
on the agenda presented by Mr. Goldenweiser at the informal meeting
°f the Board on July 1/, 1941.

The topic has three subheadings, namely,

"Inter-American Bank", "Frozen funds", and "Balance of payments with
C
anada".
Mr. Gardner led the discussion by reviewing the developments




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looking to the creation of the Inter-American Bank and reported on
the status of the legislation relating thereto now pending in Congress.
He stated that the legislation was being held in abeyance by the Senate
Banking and Currency Committee largely because Senator Glass had certain reservations as to the effect the creation of such a bank would
have on the Federal Reserve System and possibly upon member banks operating branches in Latin America.

He said that Mr. Berle, Assistant

Secretary of State, had informally asked that the Board render any assistance it could in having the legislation reported out of the Senate
Banking and Currency Committee and that the Board is confronted with
the question whether it desires to play an active role with respect
to the Inter-American Bank or whether it should continue in the somewhat passive role that it has assumed up to this time.
Mr. Goldenweiser said that the question propounded by Mr.
Gardner might properly be divided into three parts, namely, (1) what
action, if any, should the Board take to facilitate passage of the
Pending legislation, (2) what steps, if any, should the Board take
at this time to locate men whom it would be willing to recommend

"
t appointment as United States director and president, respectively,
°f the bank, and (3) what contribution, if any, should the System make
tn furnishing capital funds in connection with the organization of
the Dank.
Chairman Eccles expressed the view that it was too far in




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advance to give any consideration to the part the System might play
in the capitalization of the Inter-American Bank if and when it is
established.

However, in response to a question raised by Chairman

Eccles, Mr. Wyatt expressed the opinion that the System could purchase
debentures issued by the Inter-American Dank but stated that such action would come under the jurisdiction of the Federal Open Market Committee.
Following a lengthy discussion of the
other two points mentioned by Yr. Goldenweiser,
the Board unanimously agreed that (1) Chairman Eccles should call Yr. Berle on the telephone and advise him that if the Administration
felt that it was desirable to press for the
passage of the bill, the Board thought that
it would be more effective if the President
or Secretary Hull would communicate with Senator Glass and advise him as to the part that
the Inter-American Bank was designed to play
in hemispheric defense, and (2) that the question of finding men whom the Board would be
willing to recommend to the Inter-Departmental
Committee for appointment to the positions of
United States director and president, respectively, in the management of the Inter-American
Bank should be referred to the Board's Personnel Committee viith the understanding that
any member of the Board or staff who has any
suggestions would submit them to Messrs. Szymczak
and Draper.
The meeting recessed at 1:15 p.m, and reconvened at 3:00 p.m.
Ilith the same attendance as at the morning session except that Messrs.
H

mond and 'ey1 were not present and Mr. Knapp, Junior Economist,

Di\rision of Research and Statistics, was in attendance.
Mr. Goldenweiser stated that on the subject of "Frozen funds"




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he Isished
Wished to report that representatives of the Division of Research
and Statistics had recently been asked to sit in
meetings of the InterDepartmental Committee,consistingof representatives from the State,
Treasury, and Justice Departments, on the question of "Foreign funds
control".

He said that he had recently discussed with Mr. Bell, Under

Secretary of the Treasury, the Board's interest in keeping
abreast of
developments in this field and that the Treasury had extended an invitation, with the approval of Secretary Morgenthau, to have someone from

the Board's organization attend meetings of the committee. He said
that Mr. Foley, General Counsel of the
Treasury, presided at the meetand that Mr. Acheson, Assistant Secretary of State, and Mr. Shea,
Assistant Attorney General, were the other regular representatives.
Ile also said that Mr. Pehle, Assistant to the Secretary of the
Treasury,
11110 has immediate charge of the foreign funds
control work, presented
sPeeific cases for discussion and that the policy was formulated on the
basis of discussion of concrete cases.

He said further that Mr. Knapp

ll attend such meetings
regularly and will be accompanied by either
III% Gardner or himself.
Chairman Eccles raised a number of questions as to the procedure followed by the committee and the efficiency with
which the
17°/ic is being conducted.

He inquired particularly regarding the com-

PetenoY of the personnel working under Mr. Pehle. Mr. Knapp stated

that the Treasury had been able to obtain competent technicians from




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the foreign exchange market in view of the fact that it was dead at
present and that it was his understanding that about 75 per cent of
the men working on foreign property control matters had been obtained
from this source.

Mr. Knapp also said that the criticism made by some

of the Federal Reserve Banks that cases which they had approved were
frequently turned down by the Department without giving reasons
for
the action taken had been frequently discussed and was one of the
reasons why the Treasury called the recent conference which was at—
tended by representatives from all of the Federal Reserve Banks.

He

added that the Treasury was endeavoring to bring about better coordina—
tion in this work and the recent conference had been very helpful in
bringing about better understanding on the part of men working in the
field.

He also said, in response to a question by Mr. McKee, that

the Treasury Department's decisions in handling this work had not as
Yet been challenged in the courts.
At this point Mr. Kindleberger, Associate Economist, Division
Of Research and Statistics, entered the room.
Mr. Goldenweiser then asked Mr. Hansen to discuss the sub—
"Balance of payments with Canada", by reporting briefly on

the work of the Canadian and United States Joint Economic Committees.
14r. Hansen stated that these committees had been created last June
48 an outgrowth of the agreement reached by President Roosevelt and
Pl'ime Minister Mackenzie King at Hyde Park on April 20, 1941, for




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the purpose of exploring the possibility of a greater degree of eco"mic cooperation between Canada and the United States.

Mr. Hansen

said that the members of the United States Committee, in addition to

himself, were William L. Batt, of the Office of Production Management,
Harry D. White, of the Treasury Department, and E. Dana Durand, of
the Tariff Commission, although it was understood that Mr. Berle, Assistant Secretary of State, would sit with the committee from time
to time as occasion may render desirable.

He added that Mr. Kindleberger

waS serving as Secretary of the United States Committee.

Mr. Hansen

also reported that the members of the Canadian Committee were P. A. C.
Henry, Professor W. A. Mackintosh, J. G. Bouchard, and Alex Skelton,
with H. L. Keenleyside, of the Department of External Affairs, sitting
with the committee from time to time as occasion may require.
Mr. Hansen stated that the committees had been instructed to
Study and report to their respective governments on the possibilities
of (1) effecting a more efficient and more coordinated utilization of

the combined resources of the two countries in the production of defense requirements, and (2) reducing the probable post-war economic
dislocation consequent upon the changes which the economy in each
e°11ntry is presently undergoing.

He said that the committees had

decided to prepare three kinds of reports, (1) continuous reports on
clur purchases in Canada for the defense effort, (2) reports with resPect to researches undertaken regarding materials, resources, and




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export control in both countries, and (3) reports concerning long
liange studies looking to the post-war period largely relating to the
economics, agricultural policy, etc.

of the two countries.

He stated

that the joint committees would meet at least every four weeks, that
they had met here in Washington on July 15-16, 1941, that the next
meeting was scheduled to take place in Ottawa on August 8-9, and that
thereafter
meetings will be held at intermediate points convenient to
both the Canadian and American committees. He said that during the
time between joint meetings the respective committees plan to meet
once each week.
At the conclusion of Mr. Hansen's
report members of the Board raised the
question whether it would be possible
to obtain reports periodically regarding the activities of the joint committees and it was understood that such
reports would be furnished to the Board
from time to time in the future by the
Division of Research and Statistics.
Mr. Ransom inquired whether it was the intention of the Board
to meet
next Wednesday to continue the discussions of the topics on the
agenda submitted at the informal meeting on July 14, 1941, by Mr. GoldenWeiser.




After some discussion it was agreed
that the Board would meet on Wednesday,
July 30, at 10:30 a.m., and on Wednesday,
August 6, at the same hour, with the understanding that topic IV, "Problem of borrowing
by Government. Methods of financing and
role of the F. R. System", would be discussed at the meeting on July 30 and that

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-8topic III, "Program for housing during and
after defense", would be discussed on August

6.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Goldenweiser, Hansen, Gardner,
Kindleberger, Knapp, and Bach left the meeting.
Mr. Szymczak reported that Mr. 'Williams, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, had advised him that, in the absence
of objection on the part of the Board, the Philadelphia
Bank intended
to employ Karl R. Bopp to take charge of personnel at a salary of
6,000 per annum.
Mr. Szymczak recommended that the Board
approve the action proposed by Mr. Williams,
if taken by the directors of the Philadelphia
Bank.
The Board unanimously approved Mr.
Szymczak's recommendation, with the understanding that Mr. Szymczak would advise Mr.
Williams by telephone of the Board's action.
(Secretary's note: Mr. Szymczak subsequently
advised the Secretary's Office that he had
called Mr. Williams and advised him accordingly.)
Szymczak presented a memorandum dated June 18, 1941, from
Uorrill, submitting for consideration by the Board a letter dated
jline 2, 1941, from Mr. Wilson, Chief of the Secret Service Division of
the Treasury,
requesting that the Board give serious consideration to
the preparation and distribution to all
banks in the United States of
841 inclex, planned by the Division, of counterfeit currency which has
aPPeared since the size of the currency was changed in 1929.

The mem-

(Il
'
andum briefly reviewed the work done and expense incurred by the Board




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heretofore in rendering assistance gratis to the Secret Service Division
and stated that it was estimated that the necessary materials and labor
or printing the 1,300,000 cards
comprising the original index would
cost approximately ,2,500, to which
would have to be added the cost of
wraPPing and mailing the cards which would take a considerable amount
Of time. It also stated that in the future there would be the cost of
Printing and distributing a card for each new counterfeit that appeared,
and that, if
the original index were printed at such times as would not
interfere with the regular work of the Board's duplicating section, the
Printing could be done without any addition to the present force, but
inasmuch as it would be desirable to issue future
notices immediately
8° as to inform banks and others as promptly as possible of new
counterfeits, that work might interfere with the regular work of the Duplicating
and Mail
Section. The memorandum stated further that the Secret Service
Division has been very well satisfied with the work done for it by the
Board's
staff in the past, and that this, together with the fact that
the Secret Service appears to have difficulty in getting prompt service
ow. the Treasury's duplicating
section and does not appear to have
en • .
fflclent funds to pay for the paper or the printing of the proposed
inclex, undoubtedly has led to this further request of the Board.
Mr. Szymczak said that he had discussed the matter over the
tel
ePhone with Mr. Bell, Under Secretary of the Treasury, as
well as
lthMr.
Viilson, and had suggested that, as Congress had given the




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Treasury the specific responsibility for detecting and suppressing
co
unterfeiting, the Department should bear the expense in connection
therewith.

He stated that in each case he was assured that due to ap-

Propriation limitations the Secret Service could not pay for the materials or
printing of the index although Mr. Vilson did agree that
he would
make arrangements to maintain the index once it has been est
ablished. Mr. Szymczak said that, after going into the matter fully,
he was
disposed to recommend that the Board authorize the Secretary's
°ffice to undertake the preparation and distribution of the original
index at the
Board's expense with the understanding that no work will
be performed by the
Board's organization in connection with the mainte
_
nanue of the index unless arrangements are made to reimburse the
Board for
the expense involved.
Mr. Szymczak's recommendation was approved unanimously, it being understood that,
while the Board does not wish to take credit
for the index, there might be included on
the cards at some appropriate place a statement to the effect that they were printed
and distributed through the cooperation of
the Federal Reserve System. In this connection, the Board authorized an increase
of $2,300 in the Printing and Binding account of the Service Functions budget of
the Secretary's Office to cover the cost
of materials which will be used in preparing and distributing the index.
At this point Mr. Wyatt left the meeting and the action stated
Ilith respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then
taken by the Board:




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-11The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System held on July 16, 1941, were approved unanimously.
The minutes of the meetings of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on July 17, 18, 21, 22, and 23, 1941, were
approved and the actions recorded therein were ratified unanimously.
Letter to the board of directors of "The Onida Bank", Onida,
South Dakota, a State institution organized to succeed "The Onida
National Bank", stating that, effective if and when the successor bank
i8 duly authorized to commence business by the appropriate State aut
horities and is entitled to the benefits of insurance under Section
12B of the Federal Reserve Act, subject to conditions of membership
numbered 1 to 3 contained in the Board's Regulation H and the following
sPecial conditions, the Board approves the bank's application for membershiP in the Federal Reserve System and for the appropriate amount
of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis:

1t4. At
the time of its admission to membership, such
bank shall have a paid-up and unimpaired capital
stock of not less than 4t25,000 and a surplus of
not less than :t5,000, and shall have assets and
liabilities substantially the same in amount and
character (with due allowance for the contemplated
retirement of preferred stock, the proposed writedown in fixed assets, and for changes arising
from the ordinary course of business) as shown in
the report of examination of The Onida National
Bank, Onida, South Dakota, as of June 2, 1941, made
by examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis."

It5.

In the acquisition of the assets of The Onida




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-12"National Bank, banking house and furniture and
fixtures shall not be set up on the books of the
bank in an amount in excess of S12,000."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Peyton, President of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, reading as follows:

"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System approves the application of 'The Onida Bank', Onida,
South Dakota, a State institution organized to succeed
The Onida National Bank, for stock in the Federal Reserve
Bank of Minneapolis, effective if and when the successor
bank is duly authorized to commence business by the appropriate State authorities and is entitled to the benefits
of insurance under Section 12B of the Federal Reserve Act,
subject to the conditions prescribed in the enclosed letter which you are requested to forward to the Board of
Directors of the institution. Two copies of such letter
are also enclosed, one of which is for your files and the
other of which you are requested to forward to the Superintendent of Banks for the State of South Dakota for his
information.
"As you know, the new bank is not eligible for membership in the System unless it is entitled to the benefits
Of deposit insurance. The Board has received a copy of a
letter dated July 23, 1941, from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to the bank, a copy of which is enclosed,
setting forth the conditions upon which the State bank has
been approved for deposit insurance. We will advise you
Promptly upon receipt of advice from the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation that such conditions have been complied with and arrangements may then be made for completion
Of the bank's admission to membership.
"Before issuing stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis to the new State institution, you are requested
to satisfy yourself that its capital stock of,4 25,000 has
been ?aid in, and that all agreements and contracts entered
into between it and The Onida National Bank covering the
Purchase of assets from, and the assumption of liabilities
of, that bank and any and all other agreements and contracts
between such bank and the stockholders and/or directors
or other individuals or concerns, incident to the organization of the new State instil,lition, have been considered




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"by your counsel and that he is satisfied as to their
legal aspects. It is requested that a copy of the opinion of your counsel given in this connection together
With copies of any such agreements or contracts, be forwarded to the Board as soon as possible."
Telegram to Mr. Sproul, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Tew
York, reading as follows:
"Following cablegram is being referred to you for reply in accordance with discussions of Logan with Dreibelbis
over telephone: 'July 23 Capetown Beg to inform you that
several orders of payment on behalf Greek diplomatic agents
and functionaries as well as other urgent orders in execution of liabilities remain unexecuted owing to demand that
Bank of Greece should nominate representative United States
With unlimited powers control and dispose of all assets of
Dank of Greece. As such procuration is contrary our statutes and if necessary can be given only after authorization
by law would be grateful if you would urgently intervene
for immediate execution our orders pending settlement of
above question. Situation created most disagreeable as
Greek diplomatic representatives in several countries remain without any funds. We have found no such difficulty
in any other country Many thanks Varvaressos Governor
Bank of Greece"
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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APProved:

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Chairman.