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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Systen Was
held in Washington on Monday, July 20, 1936, at 11:30 a. in.
PRESENT:

Mr. Eccles, Chairman
Mr. Ransom
Mr. Davis
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

Consideration was given to each of the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the

Memorandum dated July 18, 1936, from Mr. Paulger recommending

the temporary appointment, for a period of one month, of Miss Henrietta
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Ley as a stenographer in the Division of Examinations at a salary
ft00-00 per month, effective as of the date upon which she enters

/413c)n the
performance of her duties.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated July 11, 1936, from Mr. Broderick submitting
illf°rmetion received from the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago pursuant
to th
e Board's letter of March 25, 1936, X-9532, regarding proposed
eles in personnel and operation of the bank, as well as a draft of
a letter to President Schaller reading as follows.

The memorandum and

letter
have been previously circulated among the members of the Board
tot their
consideration:
"The Board has reviewed the information submitted by
You in connection with the proposed changes in operation
and organization of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
"In the Board's letter of March 25, 1936, it was stated




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"that the Board had in mind a procedure looking toward the
Placing of the chairmanship largely upon an honorary basis
With the thought that the ministerial duties with respect to
the issuance of Federal Reserve notes and the holding in
custody of collateral therefor would actually be performed
127 Assistant Federal Reserve agents who would be experienced
in such work and who would receive salaries commensurate with
the duties and responsibilities to be assumed. In this connection, there is attached a copy of a letter to Mr. Walsh,
Federal Reserve Agent at Dallas, with respect to the duties
to be performed by him as Chairman and Federal Reserve Agent
"an honorary basis. The Board would expect the principles
anel procedure set forth in the letter to Chairman Walsh to
be followed at all Federal Reserve banks.
"The Board's letter of March 25, 1936, also stated that
the procedure contemplated would result in the transfer of
the bank examination work and the research work, heretofore
handled by the Federal Reserve agents, to the banking departments with the understanding, however, that such functions
would, as heretofore, be conducted under the general supervision of the Board of Governors.
"In order to acquaint you more fully with the conditions
under which it is contemplated that the examination and research work will be transferred to the banks, these conditions
are set forth below in general terms. With respect to the
examination function, the plan contemplates that:
1. All appointments of examiners at the Federal Reserve banks will continue to be subject to the approval of the Board of Governors.
2. The examination department will continue as a
separate unit.
3. The examination department will be under the supervision of a Vice President to be designated by the
bank after consultation with the Board.
4. The budget for this function will be subject to
advance approval of the Board of Governors.
"The Vice President in charge of examinations will be
designated as an examiner for the Federal Reserve bank and the
Board would expect that official to be responsible directly
to the President of the bank and not to another Vice President
or other officer.
"While it is expected that the President will keep himself informed of the activities and policies of the examination department, it is contemplated that correspondence, other
than that relating to policy matters, would be carried on by




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"the Board and its staff directly with the Vice President
in charge of examinations. This procedure would be similar
to that generally followed with respect to other correspondence about routine operating matters.
"The Board notes with approval the proposed plan to
elect Assistant Federal Reserve Agent Young a Vice President and to place the bank examination department under his
supervision. It is understood that your directors propose
that Mr. Young, as Vice President, will continue to receive
a salary at the rate of .11.F,000 per annum, and the Board
approves a salary of Mr. Young as Vice President at that rate,
if and when fixed by your directors.
"After the transfer is made the Board will expect that
the present policy of decentralization of examination work
under the ultimate responsibility of the Board will continue,
that the examination work will be conducted by the Federal
Reserve banks under the general policies adopted by the Board,
and that genern1 supervision of the examination work of the
System as a whole will continue to be exercised by the Board's
Division of Examinations.
"In the past the Federal Reserve agent's department has
had custody of the reports of examinations made by the various
agencies, which reports have been made available to certain
Officers of the bank end to certain designated employees in
the Credit and Discount and other departments of the bank.
When the bank examination department is transferred to the
Federal Reserve bank instructions should be issued providing that the bank examination department will continue to
have custody of reports of examination, and proper safeguards should be established in order to preserve the confidential character of such information and to insure that the
reports will be made available to officers or employees of
Other departments only when justified in the performance of

their duties.

"The principles to govern the operations of the research
and statistical organizations after their transfer from the
Agent's department to the bank are outlined in the following
Paragraphs which supersede those transmitted with the Board's
letter of August 11, 1926, X-4646.
laape and purpose The purpose of the work of the research and statistical divisions of the Federal Reserve banks is to collect and digest information bearon the problems with which the Federal Reserve
System is confronted, either as a matter of current
Operation or as the basis of the Federal Reserve
Policies.




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-4"These divisions should provide a necessary service to the officials of the banks and to the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and should
also be useful to the general public. Owing to the
Joint usefulness of these services the Board expects
its Division of Research and Statistics to keep in
Close touch with the activities of similar departments at the Reserve banks, and expects full cooperation in the System's work in this field.
.
"When a new project in the research and statistical field is in contemplation at a Reserve bank it
should be worked out in cooperation with the Board's
Director of Research and Statistics, except as to
projects of small scope which involve no considerable
expense. From time to time the Director of the
Board's Division of Research and Statistics may find
it necessary to request the cooperation of one or more
Federal Reserve banks on research studies.

"Publications The Board wishes to continue the present
practice under which all publications of the Federal
Reserve banks dealing with matters of more than local
interest are submitted to the Board of Governors and
issued only with the approval of the Board.
"Midget and personnel The budget of the statistical
and analytical function should continue to be subject
to the advance approval of the Board and all appointments of persons to supervisory positions in the
statistical and analytical function should be subject
to the approval of the Board.
"The Board would expect the person in charge of the research and statistical functions to report directly to the
l'resident of the bank and not to a Vice President or other
officer.
"It is further contemplated that the work heretofore
handled by the Federal Reserve agents in connection with administration of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 will also
be transferred to the banking departments with the understanding that this work, like the examination work and the research
works will, as heretofore, be conducted under the general
supervision of the Board of Governors. The conditions of
transfer contemplated by the plan do not include any specifications as to whether the reserve bank shall have a separate
3
1nit for doing this work, as this would appear at present to
e necessary at only a few of the Federal Reserve banks, but
it is expected that all appointments or assignments of pers°ns to supervisory positions in handling this work at each

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"Federal Reserve bank will be subject to the approval of
the Board of Governors.
"With respect to the statutory duties of the Federal
Reserve agent, the Board will appoint, upon the recommendation
of Assistant
Federal Reserve Agent Young, one or more Assistant Federal Reserve agents whose primary duties will be in
connection with the issuance and retirement of Federal Reserve notes and the custody of collateral therefor. Then an
Assistant
Federal Reserve agent is not engaged in work connected with the issuance and retirement of Federal Reserve
notes it is
assumed that, with the authorization of the Federal Reserve agent and the approval of the President, he will
Perform other work in the bank which is not inconsistent
with his duties as Assistant Federal Reserve agent. The
Board feels that the Assistant Federal Reserve agents appointed after transfer of the agent's nonstatutory duties
to the bank
shall be careful and conscientious persons of
unquestioned integrity, competent to handle all work in connection with the issuance and retirement of Federal Reserve
notes.
"It is not expected that the Assistant Federal Reserve
agent will be charged with responsibility under section 30
of the
Banking Act of 1933. The Vice President in charge of
examinations should be charged with the responsibility of
ePing the Federal Reserve agent advised of violations of
elaw by
directors and officers of State member banks and of
unsound banking practices in order to enable the Federal Reserve agent to comply with the requirements of that section
regarding the issuance of warnings to the directors and officers involved and the certification of facts in such cases to
the Board of
Governors.
"As soon as an Assistant Federal Reserve agent has been
appointed and has executed the customary bond, the Board of
Governors is prepared to authorize the transfer of the examination and research work to the bank and will also then
accept the resignations to be submitted by the present Assistant Federal Reserve Agents Young, Prugh and Martin."
The proposed letter was approved
unanimously, together with a letter to
President Schaller, reading as follows:
"Under dates of June 26, 1936, and July 3, 1936, the
Board advised you of the approval of increases, effective
as of January 1, 1936, in the annual salaries to be paid
certain of the officers of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chi(
-ago during the year 1936. The Board also approves a salary,




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-6"effective as of September 1, 1936, at the rate of '.1P,000
per annum for Vice President Dillard.
"Reference is made to the conversation between you and
Mr. Broderick when he was in Chicago recently concerning the
action taken by the Board, as set forth in its letter of
March 9, 1936, in approving the salary of Mr. McKay as Vice
President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago only until
September 1, 1936, and in authorizing the bank to pay to the
retirement system upon the termination of Mr. McKay's services such amount as may be necessary to provide for him an
annual retirement allowance equal to the allowance he would
receive if he were sixty-five years of age on the date of
such termination.
"The Board has given further consideration to this matter, and in
view of the existing circumstances, has requested
me to advise you that, subject to the necessary action being
taken by your board of directors, the Board approves the payTent of salary at the rate of t12,000.00 per annum to Mr.
McKay as Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago for the period from September 1, 1936, to February 28,
1937, inclusive, with the understanding that at the time
the salaries fixed for officers of your bank for the year
1937 are submitted to the Board for approval, the Board will
give consideration to what further action, if any, should be
taken with respect to Mr. McKay.
"The Board's action was taken with the further understanding that should Ir. McKay's services be terminated on
that date your bank is authorized, should the board of directors approve such action, to pay to the retirement system
Such amount as may be necessary, together with Mr. McKay's
clan contributions, to provide for him an annual retirement
allowance in an amount equal to the allowance to which he
would be entitled if he were sixty-five years of age on the
date of the termination of his service."
Letter to Mr. Peyton, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
lillneapolis, reading as follows:
"Since writing you under date of June 29, 1936, with
respect to the survey of the Federal Reserve Bank of Min"Polls, the Board has reviewed the procedure to be followed
with reference to work to be performed at the Federal Reerve banks under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and
nas asked me to advise you that it is contemplated that the
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"of 1934 will be transferred to the banking departments with
the understanding that this work, like the examination work
and the research work, will, as heretofore, be conducted under
the general supervision of the Board of Governors. The conditions of transfer contemplated by the plan do not include
any specifications as to whether the Reserve bank shall have
a separate unit for doing this work, as this would appear
at present to be necessary at only a few of the Federal Reserve banks, but it is expected that all appointments or
a signments of persons to supervisory positions in handling
tais work at each Federal Reserve bank will be subject to
the approval of
the Board of Governors."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks, reading
a8

f011OWS'

"Reference is made to the Board's letter of May 2, 1932,
and to its telegrams of March 2, 1933 and April 29, 1933, with
respect to the amounts of Government securities that may be
Pledged by the Federal Reserve banks with the Federal Reserve
agents as collateral security for Federal Reserve notes.
"For some time the amount of Government securities
Pledged by the Federal Reserve banks with the Federal Reserve
agents as collateral security for Federal Reserve notes has
been comparatively small and it is believed that it is no
longer necessary to limit by a fixed formula the amount of
Government securities that may be so pledged by a given Federal Reserve bank.
"Accordingly, beginning August 1, 1936, you are authorized to pledge with the Federal Reserve agent, and the Federal Reserve agent is authorized to receive, United States
Government obligations as collateral security for Federal
Reserve notes in such amounts as may be reasonably necessary
t° avoid frequent interchanges of United States Government
obligations and gold certificates as collateral security for
Federal Reserve notes."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable J. F. T. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency,
rem.
'king as follows:
"Reference is made to Deputy Comptroller Gough's letter




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"Of July 11, 1936, advising of your approval of the applicap
tion
of The Upper Avenue Bank, Chicago, Illinois, a member
ank, to convert into the Upper Avenue National Rank of Chicago, and recuesting advice as to whether, subsequent to the
proposed conversion, Mr. Roy C. Osgood may serve at the same
time as director and officer of the converted institution and
as officer of The First National Bank of Chicago, Chicago,
Illinois, and whether Mr. Henry C. Murphy may serve at the
same time as director and officer of the converted institution and First National Bank of Woodstock, Woodstock, Illinois.
"Prior to the amendment of section 8 of the Clayton
Act by the Banking Act of 1935, the Board ruled that, since
a State bank does not lose its corporate identity in converting into a nationnl bank, a person holding a permit to serve
a State
bank and other banks coming within the provisions of
:the Clayton Act need not obtain a new permit to serve the same
banks after the conversion of the State bank into a national
bank.
"It appears that similar considerations are applicable
under the following provision which is now contained in section 8 of the Clayton Act:
. 'Until February 1, 1939, nothing in this section shall prohibit any director, officer, or employee
of any member bank of the Federal Reserve System, or
any branch thereof, who is lawfully serving at the
same time as a private banker or as a director, officer, or employee of any other bank, banking association, savings bank or trust company, or any branch
thereof, on the date of enactment of the Banking Act
of 1935, from continuing such service.'
"The files of the Board show that on January 19, 1935,
Mr. Osgood
was granted permission under the provisions of secticm 8 of the Clayton Act to serve as officer of The First
National Bank of Chicago and as director and officer of The
UPper Avenue Bank, both of Chicago, Illinois; and that on
September 18, 1934, Mr. Murphy was granted permission to
serve as director and officer of The Upper Avenue Bank, Chicago, Illinois, and First National Bank of Woodstock, Woodstock, Illinois.
"Therefore, in view of the provision in section 8 of the
Clayton Act quoted above, it appears that, subsequent to the
ProPosed conversion of The Upper Avenue Bank into Upper Avenue
National Bank of Chicago, Mr. Osgood may serve as a director
and officer of Upper Avenue National Bank of Chicago and as




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-9"officer of The First National Bank of Chicago until February
1939, if on August 23, 1935, he was serving the banks named
in his permit in the capacities referred to therein.
"The same provision would likewise permit Mr. Murphy's
relationships to continue until February 1, 1939. However,
another provision in section 8 excepts his relationships altogether from the prohibitions of the section. That provision,
which is contained in paragraph (5) of section 8, excepts
relationships
involving 'A bank, * * * not located and having
no branch in the same city, town, or village as that in which
such member bank or any branch thereof is located, or in any
City, tor village contiguous or adjacent thereto.' Therefore, in view of the fact that Woodstock and Chicago are 65
miles apart, Mr. Murphy may continue to serve Upper Avenue
National Bank of Chicago and First National Bank of Woodstock,
even after February 1, 1939."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable J. F. T. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency,
l'eading as
follows:
."This refers to Mr. Lyons' letter dated July 1, 1936,
and inclosures, requesting the views of the Board upon the
question whether the First National Bank, Nicholson, PennsYlvania, may continue to pay interest at the rate of 4 per
?ent per annum on a savings account styled 'Nicholson Cemetery Association -- Permanent Deposit -- Rate
"It is understood from the inclosed letter of the na-onal bank examiner that this account was opened on February
1929, and that the pass book contains the usual rules and
regulations giving the bank the right to require 30 days'
written notice of withdrawal and does not contain any proindicating that withdrawals may not be made, except
the words
'Permanent Deposit' in the title of the account.
The
examiner states, however, that the cashier claims that
it is verbally understood between the bank and the Cemetery
Association that the funds in the account are of a permanent
nature and that withdrawals of amounts other than interest
credits are not to be made.
4.. "Section (1) of the supplement to Regulation Q, effeclilve January 1, 1936, provides that no member bank shall pay
interest accruina after January 31, 1935, at a rate in excess
Per cent per annum on any savings deposit, 'except that
a- member bank may pay interest on any such deposit in accord-

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-10"ance with the terms of any certificate of deposit or other
contract which was lawfully entered into in good faith beDecember is, 1934, (or, if the bank became a member of
the Federal Reserve System thereafter, before the date upon
which it became a member), which was in force on such date
and which may not legally be terminated or modified by such
bank at its option or without liability.'
"On the basis of the facts stated above, it is the view
Of the
Board that the member bank has the right, upon giving
reasonable notice to the depositor, to terminate or modify
Savings deposit contract in order to cause the rate of
interest paid thereon to comply with the regulation. Accordthe Board is of the opinion that the bank is required
bY the provisions of Regulation Q to proceed at once to take
such steps as may be necessary, through notice to the depositor or
otherwise, to terminate or modify the contract in
ql.lestion in order to bring it into conformity with the provisions of the regulation.
"The Board has taken the position that deposits of a
corporation
or other organization engaged in the sale and
maintenance of cemetery lots may be classified as savings
deposits provided the organization is not operated for profit
and the deposit meets the other requirements of section 1(e)
°f Regulation Q. Accordingly, it is the view of the Board
that if the Nicholson Cemetery Association is engaged in the
sale and maintenance of cemetery lots and is not operated
.For profit, deposits of such association may be classified
DY a member bank as savings deposits and interest may be
Paid thereon at a rate not exceeding 2 per cent per annum."
Approved unanimously.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

ecsIcal.
41313r°ved:




Chairman.

Secretary.