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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office Of the Secretary

July 2, 1961

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve .System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
Initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Tuesday, July 2, 1963.

The Board met in the Board Room

at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations

Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Bank of Atlanta on July 1, 1963, of the rates on discounts and
advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously, with the
understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that Bank.
Report on competitive factors

Norfolk-Suffolk

Virginia).

There

had been distributed a draft of report to the Comptroller of the Currency
on the competitive factors involved in the proposed merger of National
Bank of Suffolk, Suffolk, Virginia, into Virginia National Bank, Norfolk,
Virginia.
During discussion, Governor Mills remarked that the situation
Presented by this merger proposal seemed generally similar to that
involved in certain previous cases that had come before the Board.

In

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Suffolk the local banks were able to take care of the normal credit
needs of the community, but there were some larger businesses that
had to go outside the community.

Accordingly, it would seem appropriate,

from that standpoint, for Virginia National, with its larger lending
capacity, to be represented in Suffolk.

At the same time, this would

expose the remaining local banks to competition that it might be
difficult for them to meet.

He mentioned this because it was important

for the Board's reasoning to be basically consistent in decisions and
competitive factor reports, even though there were nuances and shades
of difference from case to case that deserved attention.

He regarded

the report naw under consideration as taking a position generally
consistent with the line of reasoning expressed in previous cases, and
therefore would approve it.
The report was then approved unanimously for transmission to the
Comptroller of the Currency.

The conclusion of the report read as follows:

There is virtually no direct competition existing
between Virginia National Bank and National Bank of
Suffolk. However, Virginia National, as the second
largest bank in the State and the dominant institution
in the eastern section of Virginia, attracts correspondent business from a wide region and solicits accounts
from large national and regional corporations that operate
in the service areas of both banks.
Consummation of the proposed merger would alter the
banking structure in Suffolk and represent a potential
threat to the ability of any remaining local bank to
continue to offer effective competition. It would also
further concentrate banking resources in Virginia.

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-3Report on S.

1666 (Item No. 1). There had been distributed a

memorandum dated June 28, 1963, from the Legal Division in connection
with a request from Chairman Eastland of the Senate Committee on the
Judiciary for a report on S.

1666, a bill "To amend section 3 of the

Administrative Procedure Act, . . . to clarify and protect the right
of the public to information and for other purposes."

The memorandum

summarized and commented on the provisions of the bill, the most questionable of which, from the Board's standpoint, were thought to be the
deletion from the present law of the right of a Government agency to
withhold from publication or from public inspection certain types of
information that the agency determined to require secrecy in the public
interest or required for good cause to be held confidential, and a
provision that would require every agency with more than one member to
keep a record of the individual votes of each member in every proceeding
and to make such record available for public inspection "except to the
extent required to protect the national defense."
The striking of the present provision of law under which an
agency may determine that final orders, opinions, and matters of official
record are "required for good cause to be held confidential" apparently
would subject matters such as the following to the proposed disclosure
requirements:

applications or requests for approval of branch establish-

ments; for permission to maintain reduced reserves; and for approval of
investments in bank premises.

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The memorandum concluded with a recommendation that the Board's
report, while expressing general approval of the stated purpose of the
legislation, also express the view that enactment of certain of the
provisions could substantially hinder the Board's ability effectively
to perform functions required by law and, at the same time, could visit
harmful economic and personal consequences upon a portion of the public
body intended to be served and aided by the proposed legislation.

A

draft of letter to Chairman Eastland reflecting the Legal Division's
recommendation was attached to the memorandum.
After Mr. O'Connell, at the request of the Board, had commented
on the significance and consequences of the proposed legislation, Governor
Robertson raised the question whether the Board should put itself in the
position of complaining about a requirement for disclosure of individual
votes.
In the discussion that ensued, it was observed that the point
raised by Governor Robertson, that is, concerning the disclosure of
votes, was linked to the question of the views that the Board might
express in regard to the provisions of the proposed legislation relating
to disclosure of agency actions.

After consideration of the latter point,

there appeared to be general agreement that there were certain types of
actions, particularly in the bank supervisory area, where public disclosure
could be detrimental to the interest of the parties concerned and to the
public interest.

The suggestion was made, therefore, that the part of

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the proposed letter dealing with the provisions of the bill pertaining
to disclosure of agency actions might be clarified and strengthened,
with the use of examples, so as better to define those kinds of Board
actions where a mandatory requirement for public disclosure would be
adverse to considerations of the public interest.

Governor Robertson

indicated that he would be satisfied if this were done and if the portion
of the proposed letter relating to disclosure of votes were tied back
to the discussion of the requirements of the bill relating to disclosure
of agency actions.
Subject to the understanding that the language of the draft
letter would be clarified and strengthened along the lines suggested
by the foregoing discussion and that account also would be taken of
certain other editorial suggestions, the sending of the letter was
approved unanimously.
Secretary's Note: The letter was sent to
Chairman Eastland on July 11, 1963. A
copy is attached as Item No. 1.
Announcement of Board decisions.

During discussion of the

Preceding item, it was noted that approval of the establishment of
State member bank branches was not made the subject of public announcement at the time of Board action.

Announcement was made at the time

an approved branch had begun operations; however, there was sometimes
a considerable lag between the Board's approval of the establishment
of the branch and the announcement that the branch had begun operations.

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Comment was made that, if it were known that the Board had approved the
establishment of a branch, a bank that might also be contemplating
applying for the establishment of a branch in the same location might
be saved a great deal of work.

This raised the question whether the

Board would also want to announce the receipt of branch applications.
It was suggested, however, that before adopting a procedure of announcing
either receipt of or approval of branch applications, it might be well
if the views of the Federal Reserve Bank Presidents were solicited.
It was further suggested that it would be well to review the various
types of actions taken by the Board, especially those in the bank supervisory area, to determine whether there were others, in addition to branch
applications, on which it might be desirable or undesirable to issue
public announcements.
There being general agreement with the foregoing suggestions,
the staff was requested to review the questions involved in extending
the area of public announcements.
Application of First Colorado Bankshares (Item No. 2).

There

had been distributed a draft of letter granting the request of Counsel
for protesting Banks in connection with the application of First Colorado
Bankshares, Inc., Englewood, Colorado, that the Board receive as part of
the record a Reply Brief filed one day beyond the time permitted by the
Board's Rules of Practice for Formal Hearings.

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-7The letter was approved unanimously; a copy is attached as

Item No. 2.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board the following
items:
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis (attached Item
approving the appointment of Robert V. Groe, Gordon L. Lindstrom,
and Ronald W. Wright as examiners.
Letter to the 17ederal Reserve Bank of Dallas (attached Item No. 4)
approving the designation of George C. Cochran, III, as special assistant
examiner.
Memorandum from Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board, recommending
an increase in the basic annual salary of Ruth E. Morris, Secretary,
Board Members' Offices, from $6,465 to $6,910, effective August 1, 1963.
Governor Shepardson today noted on behalf
of the Board a memorandum advising that
application for retirement had been filed
by Nancy B. Kelly, Secretary, Board Members'
Offices, effective August 1, 1963.

Secretary

Item No. 1
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

July 11, 1963

The Honorable James O. Eastland,
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Chairman:
This is in response to your letter of June 14, 1963,
requesting a report by the Board on S. 1666, a bill "To amend section 3 of the Legislative 41Procedure Act ... to clarify and protect
the right of the public to information and for other purposes."
The Board views favorably the stated Congressional purpose
underlying S. 1666. When access to information to which the public
is entitled is foreclosed by agency action based upon existing provisions of law, remedial legislation appears warranted. However, as
set forth hereafter in the section-by-section analysis of the bill,
the Board believes that several of the proposed provisions are unduly
severe in their requirements and could ultimately thwart the bill's
purpose. The Board favors the provisions of proposed subsection (a)
of section 3 relating to publication in the Federal Register of a
description of agency organizational structure, sources of information,
and of procedures or methods by which agency functions are channeled
and determined, including a statement of current rules of practice
aid procedure and of the substantive rules adopted as authorized by
law. These provisions appear to clarify and make more explicit existing requirements of section 3 of the Act, to which the Board currently
adheres.
Proposed subsection (b) would impose upon agencies requirements (1) for making available, for public inspection and copying,
various materials specified in the subsection, and (2) for maintaining
for public inspection and copying a current index of these materials.
Excepted from these requirements are materials (1) exempted by statute
from disclosure, or (2) specifically exempted from disclosure by
Executive Order in order to protect the national defense, or (3) relating solely to the agency's internal employment rules and practices.
It is noted that there are not made applicable to the disclosure requirements of subsection (b) two exceptions from disclosure now
provided for in section 3 of the Act in respect to generally the same
ve Procedure Act.
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agency matters. First, no exception is made for cases where there
is involved "any function of the United States requiring secrecy in
the public interest" (emphasis added). (At present, this exception
is applicable to the entire section 3 of the Act.) Second, the proposed subsection (b) would deny to an agency a right to determine
that for good cause found, agency materials shall be held confidential.
The Board considers unduly restrictive those provisions that
would authorize withholding of information as to matters involving any
function of the United States only if such matters required secrecy to
protect the national defense, and then only if specifically exempted
by Executive Order. As concerns the Board, the limited nature of the
exemption proposed would result in there being made public factual data
of an extremely confidential nature such as would be involved in proceedings relating to the termination of membership of a State bank in
the Federal Reserve System, the revocation of a voting permit of a
holding company affiliate, or suspension of a member bank from use of
the credit facilities of the Federal Reserve System. The Board believes
that the public interest would not be served by an absolute requirement
of public disclosure in all such cases.
The Board is also concerned over the proposed change from
existing law which would rescind the right of agencies to hold information confidential "for good cause found". This right, granted by
section 3(h) of the Administrative Procedure Act, has been vital to
the Board's effective performance of statutory functions relating to
supervision and regulation of commercial banks. Many of the Board's
actions in these respects, either responsive to applications and requests or initiated by the Board, necessarily rely upon information
obtained by bank examination or from other equally confidential sources.
The Board's authority to exercise its judgment in regard to making
public or not certain information has enabled the Board to function
without concern that information bearing upon the financial condition
or management of a supervised institution might be publicly disclosed
and thereby injure the institution or those served by it.
The relationships that exist between banks and their customers,
giving rise to the vital importance of public confidence in these banks,
could, in the Board's opinion, be jeopardized by uncontrolled public
access to the types of information mentioned. The Board believes that
its disclosure practices, pursuant to the present provisions of section 3 of the Administrative Procedure Act, afford reasonable and
adequate public access to the Board's opinions, orders, rules, statements of policy, and interpretations.
Proposed subsection (c) requires prompt availability of
agency records and provides exceptions similar, with minor variation,
to those provided in subsection (b). Withheld, however, as from

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subsection (b), are the two exceptions to disclosure, earlier
discussed, as provided by the present section 3 of the Act. For
the reasons earlier stated, the Board opposes the omission from the
proposed subsection (c) of exceptions considered by the Board to be
both necessary and equitable.
The Board has no objection to the provisions in that
n
subsectio that would enable a complainant to secure a Federal court
order compelling production of agency records or information improperly withheld. However, it is believed that consideration should
be given to a change in the provision that, as presently worded,
would permit, without stated exception, assessment against the agency
of the cost and reasonable attorneys fees of a complainant who
sought a Federal court order for production of records. It would be
more equitable, in the Board's view, to permit such assessment against
the agency only if the agency has failed to justify its action in withholding records or information sought.
Subsection (d) would require every agency with more than one
member to keep and to make available for public inspection the individual votes of each member in every proceeding "except to the extent required to protect the national defense". The Board presently
publishes the votes of individual members in respect to many actions
that fall within the Act's definition of "agency proceeding", and the
Board does not oppose the principle of vote disclosure underlying the
proposed requirement. However, as to those proceedings of the Board
in respect to which the disclosure requirements proposed in subsections (b) and (c) have herein been opposed, it is obvious that making
available for public inspection a record of the individual votes of
Board members would be equally objectionable, particularly in cases
where public knowledge of the fact of a Board proceeding could be as
damaging as knowledge of the circumstances and results thereof.
Accordingly, the Board believes that the interests of the
public will be served best by a provision that would permit nondisclosure of the votes of Board members "for good cause found".
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.

Wm. McC, Martin, Jr.

Item No. 2
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 2, 1963.

D. Monte Pascoe, Esq.,
Ireland, Stapleton, Pryor & Holmes,
1700 Broadway,
Denver 2, Colorado.
Re:

Application of First Colorado
Bankshares, Inc., BHC-69

Dear Mr. Pascoe:
This acknowledges your letter of June 27, 1963, enclosing
a Certificate of Service of Reply of Protesting Banks to Applicant's
Proposed Findings of Fact and Brief in the above-entitled matter.
Your letter advises that the Reply Brief was filed one day beyond
the time permitted by the Board's Rules of Practice. Pursuant to
Section 263.9(c) you request special permission of the Board for
receipt of the Reply Brief as a part of the record in this proceeding.
Pursuant to your request, Protesting Banks' Reply Brief is
received as part of the record. A copy of this reply is being transmitted to Hearing Examiner London and to Mr. David Butler, Counsel
for Applicant.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 2, 1963

Mr. H. G. McConnell,
Vice President and Secretary,
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis,
Minneapolis 2, Minnesota.
Dear Mr. McConnell:
In accordance with the requests contained in Mr. Deming's
letters of June 24, 1963, the Board approves the appointment of
Robert V. Croe, Gordon L. Lindstrom and Ronald W. Wright, at present
assistant examiners, as examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis, effective July 8, 1963.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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Mr. Thomas R. Sullivan, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas,
Dallas 2, Texas.
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Mr. Sullivan:

In accordance with the request contained in your letter
of June 26, 1963, the Board approves the designation of George C.
Cochran, III as a special assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve
Bank of Dallas for the purpose of participating .in examinations of
State member banks.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.