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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office Of the Secretary

July 19, 1963

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Friday, July 19, 1963.

The Board met in the Board Room at

10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board and Director,
Division of International Finance
Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Koch, Associate Director, Division of
Research and Statistics
Adviser, Division of Research
Holland,
Mr.
and Statistics
Mr. Furth, Adviser, Division of International
Finance
Mr. Katz, Associate Adviser, Division of International Finance
Assistant to the Secretary
Landry,
Mr.
Chief,
Banking Section, Division of
Eckert,
Mr.
Research and Statistics
Mr. Yager, Chief, Government Finance Section,
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Keir, Senior Economist, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Bernard, Economist, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Goldstein, Economist, Division of International Finance

Money market review.

Tables were distributed summarizing

monetary developments during the preceding four weeks and member bank
reserve positions on statement weeks in May, June, and July of 1963
along with a chart showing comparative yield curves on Government
securities for recent dates.

Mr. Bernard described developments in

the money market, including reference to the Government's cash budget

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position for fiscal 1963.

Mr. Koch then commented on the situation

With respect to bank reserves, the money supply, and liquidity,
following which Mr. Goldstein reported on the foreign exchange market.
At the conclusion of these reports all members of the staff
except Messrs. Sherman, Fauver, and Landry withdrew and the following
entered the roan:
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Conkling, Assistant Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Benner, Assistant Director, Division of Examinations
Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York on July 18, 1963, of the rates on
discounts and advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously
With the understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that
Bank.
Currency shipments across district lines (Item No. 1).
Reference was made in a distributed memorandum from the Division of
Bank Operations dated July 16, 1963, to advice received from Chairman
Irons of the Presidents' Conference in a letter dated July 2 that the
Conference agreed at its meeting on June 17, 1963, that the present
SYstem policy of permitting shipments of currency across district lines
44 at the request of a member bank was too restrictive and should be
broadened to permit such shipments on the initiative of the Reserve
Banks concerned.

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The memorandum noted that the question was discussed by the
Presidents' Conference at the suggestion of President Scanlon of the
Chicago Reserve Bank, who had ascertained that one of the common carriers
(Brink's Inc.) was able to provide service at a more reasonable rate
out of Minneapolis than out of Chicago to certain areas of the Chicago
District, principally western Iowa.

Mr. Scanlon had expressed the

view that with the passage of time the most efficient and economical
IlaY to deliver currency and coin would be to permit some crossing of
district lines in the manner indicated.

Attached to the memorandum

was a draft of letter to the Presidents of all Reserve Banks advising
that the Board would interpose no objection to the shipment of currency
across district lines on the initiative of the Reserve Banks concerned
and on a mutually agreeable basis, with the understanding that the Board
*would be advised of any such arrangements and the names of the cities
in other districts to which a Reserve Bank might agree to make such
shipments at the request of another Reserve Bank.
At the invitation of the Board Mr. Farrell commented on the
memorandum.

In reply to a question from Governor Robertson, he stated

that, although it was not essential that the Board be advised of
arrangements worked out by the Reserve Banks for currency and coin
sbiPments across district lines, it seemed advisable for the Board to
be kept informed of such developments.
Following discussion, unanimous approval was given to a
letter to all Reserve Bank Presidents interposing no objection to the

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initiation by the Reserve Banks of currency shipments to member banks
in other districts on such basis as was mutually agreeable to the
Reserve Banks concerned.

A copy of the letter is attached as Item No. 1.

Messrs. Hexter and O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel, and
Mr. Stone, Law Clerk, joined the meeting at this point.
Proposed Investment Securities Regulation of the Comptroller
of the Currency (Item No. 2).

On June 21, 1963, the Comptroller of

the Currency published in the Federal Register for comment within
thirty days a Proposed revision of the Investment Securities Regulation
that would purport to govern "purchase, sale, underwriting, and holding
Of' investment securities" by national banks and member State banks.

In

a distributed memorandum dated July 17, 1963, from the Legal Division
it was noted that the comments of the Reserve Banks on the proposed
revision, which had been grouped by topic in an appendix to the
memorandum, had been incorporated to the extent deemed appropriate
in an attached draft of letter to the Comptroller of the Currency.
The memorandum noted that the proposed revision would introduce
4

number of new features into the Regulation that for the most part

"ere discussed in an enclosure that would accompany the draft letter.
In one respect, however, the Regulation would purport to deal with a
matter that was believed to go beyond the authority of the Comptroller
to regulate, and would do so in a manner that apparently would conflict
vith applicable Federal statutory provisions.

This was the question of

memorandum was
underwriting and dealing in securities, to which the

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principally devoted, since it was believed that the other subjects
requiring comment were covered sufficiently in the proposed communication to the Comptroller.
The statutory provision upon which the Comptroller relied
for his authority to adopt the proposed Regulation was paragraph
seventh of section 5136 of the Revised Statutes (12 U.S.C. 24), as
amended by the Banking Acts of 1933 and 1935, in which was stated a
fundamental distinction between investing in securities and underwriting and dealing in securities.

With respect to securities invest-

ment the statute, which vested regulatory authority in the Comptroller,
Provided that a bank may not hold "investment securities of any one
Obligor or maker" in an amount exceeding 10 per cent of the bank's
capital and surplus.

Limitations were prescribed in the statute with

respect to bank underwriting and dealing in securities restricting such
activity to transactions for the account of customers and prohibiting banks
from underwriting any issue of securities or stock.

The chief exception

to this general prohibition related to obligations of the United States or
general obligations of any State or of any political subdivision thereof.
As noted in the memorandum, since the 1930's when the provisions relating
to underwriting and dealing in securities were added to Revised Statutes
5136, the exception had been construed uniformly as applicable only to
°Ipligations of governmental organizations possessing the general power
°f property taxation and only where the obligations were supported by
this power.

Over the past decade a number of bills had been introduced

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into Congress for the purpose of amending the statute to permit banks
to underwrite and deal in government revenue bonds, to a limited
extent.

under the proposed
It was the view of the Legal Division that

in a position to make
Regulation a State or other public body would be
every obligation a "general obligation," eligible for bank underwriting
and investment without limitation upon amount, simply by creating an
purpose.
"authority" or other public organization for a particular

In

such instances the basic distinction drawn between revenue bonds and
be
general obligations by Congress in Revised Statutes 5136 could
substantive
nullified by changes in form having no relationship to the
investment characteristics of the securities involved.
The memorandum went on to state that even should the proposed
would be
Regulation be made applicable only to national banks, the Board
concerned both indirectly and directly:

indirectly, because of the

tions and
unauthorized administrative relaxation of legislative restric
directly, because section

9 of the Federal Reserve Act provides that

State member banks are subject to the same limitations and conditions
with respect to underwriting, etc., "as are applicable in the case of
national banks."

In this connection, a letter had been addressed to the

Board by Bankers Trust Company, New York City, inquiring
proposed
"whether the Board concurs in the provision of the
applicable
are
ions
such
regulat
regulations to the effect that
in this
does
concur
not
Board
to state member banks. If the
the
not
or
knowing
whether
provision, we would appreciate
we
respect
In
ons.
this
regulati
Board will issue similar
rs
conside
the
Board
whether
would also appreciate knowing

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that there is any difference between investment securities
which national and state member banks may purchase for their
own accounts and securities which national and state member
banks may deal in or underwrite."
It was the Legal Division's opinion that, should the Board
take a position similar to that proposed in the draft letter to the
ss
Comptroller of the Currency, and should the Comptroller neverthele

Promulgate the Regulation substantially in its proposed form, it would
seem necessary for the Board to inform all member State banks that the
Comptroller lacked authority to enlarge the underwriting powers of
member banks and that, despite the language of the new Regulation,
member State banks might not underwrite and deal in securities except
to the extent permitted by the provisions of Revised Statutes 5136.
Following comment by Mr. Hexter on the Legal Division's
memorandum, Chairman Martin inquired whether Counsel at the Reserve
Banks took the same view of the question as the Legal Division.

In

reply, Mr. Hexter said that all of the Reserve Banks that analyzed

the proposed revision reached the same conclusion as the Board's
Legal Division.
A lengthy discussion then ensued in the course of which it
became apparent that the Board members present favored sending to the
Comptroller of the Currency a letter substantially the same as that
attached to the Legal Division memorandum.

At the conclusion of the

attached
discussion, the letter was approved unanimously in the form
as Item No. 2.

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-8With respect to the manner in which member State banks might

be informed of the Board's views on the proposed Regulation should it
be adopted by the Comptroller of the Currency, it was understood that
there would be no such advice until the Board had given consideration
to alternative approaches that might be taken.
Meeting with proponents of commercial bank revenue bond
financing.

Chairman Martin said that a group of proponents of public

revenue bond financing headed by Mr. Hardin Hawes, Senior Vice President,
Rarris Trust and Savings Bank, Chicago, Illinois, would be in Washington
next Wednesday to confer with the Treasury Department and had requested
an opportunity to meet with the Board to present their views.

Noting

that copies had been distributed of a pamphlet on the subject by Mr.
John K. Langum, the Chairman inquired whether the Board would be agreeable
to meeting with Mr. Hawes and his group on Wednesday afternoon, July 24.
There being agreement expressed with the proposal, it was understood
that appropriate arrangements would be made.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: Governor Shepardson
today approved on behalf of the Board
the following actions relating to the
Board's staff:
Salary increase
James R. Turner, Offset Press Operator (Multilith), Division of
AdMinistrative Services, from $4,909 to $4,930 per annum, effective
July 21, 1963.

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Transfer
Concetta M. Ndbilio, from the position of Clerk-Typist in the
Division of Personnel Administration to the position of Clerk-Typist
in the Division of Bank Operations, with no change in basic annual
salary at the rate of $3,8201 effective July 21, 1963.
9utside activity
Wilbert J. Hart, Messenger, Division of Administrative Services,
to work on a part-time basis for Aldo Cafe.
Governor Shepardson also approved today
on behalf of the Board a letter to Mr.
Fernando Rivera, Assistant Director of
the Center for Latin American Monetary
Studies, Mexico City, Mexico, regarding
arrangements for the annual visit to the
Board's offices of the Center's trainees
during the week of September 3, 1963.
(It was understood that the costs of the
program would include a luncheon, translating facilities, a conducted tour of
Washington, and certain minor expenditures,
provision for all of these items having
been made in the budget of the Secretary's
Office.)

Item No. 1
7/19/63
S-1880

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

tag. ,*
4***

July 22, 1963.

Dear Sir:
This letter supersedes the Board's letter of April 7,
1938 (S-84, F.R.L.L.S. #3064) which interposed no objection to a
Federal Reserve Bank entering into an arrangement, under certain
circumstances, whereby shipment of currency might be made by a
Reserve Bank to member banks in adjacent districts.
The Board has been informed that, at their June 17,
1963 meeting, the Presidents agreed that the policy set forth in
the 1938 letter of permitting shipments of currency across district
lines only at the request of a member bank was too restrictive and
should be broadened to permit such shipments on the initiative of
the Reserve Banks concerned.
The Board will interpose no objection to mutually agreeable
arrangements between Federal Reserve Banks for the shipment of currency to an adjacent district, without expense to the member banks
involved, such arrangements to be entered into either on the initiative of the Reserve Banks concerned or at the request of a member
bank to its own Federal Reserve Bank.
Please advise the Board whenever your Bank enters into any
arrangement for the shipment of currency to a member bank in another
district and the names of the cities to which such shipments are made.
Very truly yours,

TO TEE PRESIDENTS OF ALL imDERAL RESERVE BANKS

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 2
7/19/63

WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

July 19, 1963.

The Honorable James J. Saxon,
Comptroller of the Currency,
Treasury Department,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Jim:
Register contained a notice
On June 21, 1963, the Federal
considering the adoption
that the Comptroller of the Currency was
Regulation (12 CFR Part 1).
of a revision of the Investment Securities
comments submitted
It was stated that consideration would be given to
Lo the Comptroller within 30 days.
of Governors, certain of the
In the opinion of the Board
would be beneficial. However,
Proposed changes in the Regulation
ects.
the proposed revision appears to be questionable in some resp
in
upon
enumerated and commented
4 number of apparent defects are
e
antiv
subst
the enclosure. Some of these are of considerable
uities that can be
ambig
or
ncies
siste
incon
importance; others are
actual intent of the Regulation.
corrected readily to reflect the
concern relates to those provisions
The Board's most serious
purport to govern the authority
of the proposed Regulation that would
banks to underwrite and deal in
of national banks and member State
classes of securities without
securities, and to invest in certain
of 1927 and the Banking
limitation on amount. In the McFadden Act
Federal banking laws
the
Acts of 1933 and 1935, Congress amended
invest in securities
to
(1)
With respect to the authority of banks
With respect to banks'
es.
riti
and (2) to underwrite and deal in secu
ncy was empowered to define
Investments, the Comptroller of the Curre
ribe "limitations and
presc
to
the term "investment securities" and
was conferred upon
rity
autho
restrictions". However, no regulatory
in securities.
ng
deali
and
ng
the Comptroller regarding underwriti
that
5136
S.
R.
of
sion
provi
Those subjects are covered by a
urse,
reco
hout
"wit
only
ities
secur
(1) permits banks to deal in
account of, customers, and in
solely upon the order, and for the
forbids banks to "underwrite
no case for its own account", and (2)
nce of section 5136,
any issue of securities". A subsequent sente
however, provides that

The Honorable James J. Saxon

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n contained as
"The limitations and restrictions herei
for its awn
asing
to dealing in, underwriting and purch
to obliapply
not
account, investment securities shall
s of
ation
oblig
al
gations of the United States, or gener
or
of,"
there
n
any State or of any political subdivisio
rities
(Secu
.
ities
secur
certain other enumerated classes of
to,
red
refer
are
of the kinds described in that sentence
generally, as "exempt securities".)
nors, the Federal banking
In the opinion of the Board of Gover
expand or
laws do not authorize the Comptroller of the Currency to
ting powers
inves
or
ng,
deali
contract the coverage of the underwriting,
consistent posiconferred by this provision; and this has been the
and the Federal
ncy
Curre
the
of
tion of the Office of the Comptroller
Reserve System.
excluding from the proposed
Accordingly, the Board recommends
regulate the
Regulation any provisions purporting either (1) to
ase for their
purch
or
in,
deal
,
extent to which banks may underwrite
by
OWn accounts, so-called "exempt securities", which are governed
the provision of section 5136 that is quoted above, or (2) to confer
,
Upon banks powers relating to underwriting and dealing in securities
aS distinguished from investing in securities.
ding "public securities"
The objections to the proposals regar
being embodied in
are not based solely, or even principally, on their
If the proviby
law.
rized
autho
regulatory provisions that are not
ssible
sions of the proposed Regulation on this subject constituted permi
the
inclusion in
inter retations of the applicable statutes, their
would appear to
they
that
in
ading
misle
Regulation would be merely
than
constitute regulations with the force and effect of law rather
sed
propo
interpretations of legislative provisions. However, these
,
stent
consi
rm,
from the unifo
provisions involve a serious departure
provi
tory
and clearly correct interpretation of the relevant statu
er in the
sions. Therefore, their adoption by your Office, wheth
unauthorized
an
to
t
amoun
would
f°rm of regulation or interpretation,
ssed in
expre
y
nal
polic
essio
attempt to change or to nullify Congr
existing law.
"general obligations" exempted
The distinction between (1)
cable to
bY section 5136 from the limitations and restrictions appli
ally
gener
s,
ation
al
oblig
Other securities, and (2) other government
lished
estab
y
firml
is
t,
exemp
alled "revenue bonds", which are not so
must
s
issue
ity
ly
secur
ional
in both law and practice, although occas
which category they belong.
be analyzed carefully to determine in
exempted from the limitations
With respect to the group of securities
ral obligations of any .
"gene
of R. S. 5136 by the statutory phrase
of", the following excerpt
there
State or of any political subdivision
Office of the Comptroller of the
from the Digest of Opinions of the
-9..LillEm.sx states the applicable principles:

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The Honorable James J. Saxon

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"The term 'political subdivision,' as used in
R.S. 5136, includes only such governmental units as
have the power of general property taxation, together
With the incidental power to compel payment, as distinguished from governmental units which have lesser
taxing powers or which may merely levy charges for
Voluntary use of their property or facilities. In
order to qualify as 'general obligations' of a
political subdivision, securities must be backed by
its full faith and credit." (Paragraph 520)
As far as the Board of Governors is aware, this interpretation

has been
accepted by banks and has been enforced by Federal bank supervisors without exception. Since the relevant statutory provisions were
adoPted, banks have regularly participated in underwriting general
°bligations of political subdivisions of States, as described in the
abc've quotation from the Digest of Opinions, and at no time have banks
.derwritten securities of governmental units that were not supported,
:
12-rectly or indirectly, by the power of general property taxation.
distinction has also been maintained scrupulously by banks in
Lneir activities as dealers in municipal securities.

n

As you know, over the past decade a number of bills have
Introduced into Congress for the purpose of amending R. S. 5136
t
,n Permit banks to underwrite and deal in governmental revenue bonds
‘t° a limited extent) in addition to general obligations of States
and political subdivisions. These efforts by the national banks and
ie.mber State banks most active as underwriters and dealers reflect
t"eir understanding that a statutory amendment would be necessary
empower them to underwrite revenue securities.

been

T

Under the proposed Regulation a bank would be permitted to
underwrite and deal in any security of a "public authority" or "any
P
onliely awned entity which is an instrumentality of the state or
,' a municipal corporation", provided the security was "supported
°
t11Y the full faith and credit of the obligor". In effect, this would
aean that banks could underwrite and deal in any security as to which
e Public authority or publicly owned corporation was generally liable,
ven though the obligor did not possess any power of taxation or have
access to funds derived from taxation. In other words, securities
a turnpike authority or bridge authority, or a public corporation
;Perating parking facilities or public beaches, would be eligible
s°r bank underwriting, even though the principal and interest on
duch securities were payable solely from the net income, if any,
rived by such authority or corporation from voluntary use by the
Public of its facilities.

•

The Honorable James J. Saxon

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of paragraph Seventh of
Under such an interpretation
would be in a position,
4- S. 5136, a State or other public body
igation",
igation a "general obl
!?nerally speaking, to make every obl
tation
limi
any
t
hou
wit
nt
leiligible for bank underwriting and investme
niorga
ic
publ
r
othe
authority or
zPon amount, simply by creating an
be
The consequence would
2tion for a particular limited purpose.
be
d
coul
6
513
that the basic distinction drawn by Congress in R. S.
the
to
ship
tion
rela
u nified at will, by changes in form having no
:
acteristics of
char
nt
stme
inve
ive
strength or the substant
the
'-ne
securities involved.
in
ection that when Congress,
It is noteworthy in this conn
gaobli
in
l
dea
and
e
1959,
s to underwrit
specifically authorized bank
ically proey Authority, it specif
Vall
i°ns issued by the Tennessee
g obligations
din
hol
m
fro
te bank
1(1111:bited any national bank or member Sta
, dealing, or purchasing
ff that Authority "as a result of underwriting
at any one time
lot its own account...in a total amount exceeding
plus. Bonds of
sur
l stock and
0 Per centum" of the bank's capita
ions are subject
orat
and corp
tther Federal governmental authorities
by R. S. 5136
ed
crib
ions pres
all the prohibitions and restrict
trast, the
con
In
.
wlth respect to security investments generally
underwrite,
to
s
bank
to authorize
Ilatoposed Regulation would purport
a local
of
es
riti
own account, secu
beal in, and purchase for their
for
on,
ati
por
-facilities cor
eridge authority or public parking
ever upon amount. It would be
what
on
szi ample, without any limitati
the extent to which the proposed
Itlfficult to bring out more sharply
ect
Congressional prohibition with resp
tegulation would contravene the
ng
hasi
purc
to
as
on
tati
limi
and the
f° underwriting and dealing in,
tions",
es other than "general obliga
riti
secu
..(3r investment, municipal
ted and applied.
'a that term has been consistently interpre
to the provisions of section 21
Attention is directed also
°f the Banking Act of 1933 (12 U.S.C. 378).
Board
discussed at length because the
This matter has been
rt
erned over the proposal to depa
Governors is seriously conc
principles embodied in the provifrom
the Congressional policy and
8.
ioned herein. The Board
rlons of R. S. 5136 that have been ment
that the proposed Regulation
beiterates its earnest recommendation
regarding underwriting and
de amended by excluding any provisions
egory of
purporting to expand the cat
l ealing in securities, or
'
isions
R. S. 5136, since such prov
aexempt securities" established by
ler
trol
by Congress upon the Comp
re beyond the powers conferred

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The Honorable James J. Saxon

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provisions that the
of the Currency and would contravene statutory
or modify. The Board's
Comptroller is not authorized to disregard
along these
revising the Regulation
.?taff is prepared to assist in
that has not been
lines and to discuss any aspect of the matter
sufficiently clarified.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Wm. MCC. Martin, Jr.

Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.

Enclosure

on
of Investment Securities Regulati
Comments on proposed revision
1963
of June 21,
published in Federal Register
er
er is discussed in the lett
1. Legal validity. This matt
memo
this
h
with whic
from the Board of Governors to the Comptroller,
by
owed
foll
recommendation is
randum will be enclosed. If the Board's
be
d
woul
on
lati
the proposed Regu
the Comptroller, several provisions of
no
d
woul
comments listed below
deleted; in that case, some of the
longer be applicable.
e".
ably should be "the Stat
2. In § 1.3(d), "a state" prob
ably
1.4, "In the case of" prob
In the second sentence of §
should be "Pri
3. or to purchase of".
r to
specified determination prio
4. Section 1.4 requires a
eof".
ther
ion
ivis
subd
l
State or politica
d
Purchase of "an obligation of a
woul
s,
case
such
in
e
ent, if advisabl
It is not clear why this requirem
es".
riti
secu
lic
other "pub
not be equally desirable with respect to
ified might seem to imply
spec
ps
grou
Limiting this requirement to the
political subdivisions tend
a view that the obligations of States and
other public securities and require
to be of somewhat lower quality than
stronger justification.
second "source" should be
the same sentence, the
In
5.
If
sources".
Sections 1.4, 1.5(a), and 1.5(b)
6. Varying criteria.
prerequisites to the purchase of
require certain determinations as
t from
The three criteria are differen
certain kinds of securities.
. For
rent
appa
not
are
ces
differen
each other, and the reasons for the
uate
adeq
is
e
determination "that ther
example, § 1.5(a) requires a
b) requires
ity to perform, whereas § 1.5(
abil
evidence" of the obligor's
ed upon
"bas
be
to
it is required
a similar determination, except that
read
to
ged
chan
a)
were
se in § 1.5(
able estimates". If the clau
reli
",
ence
evid
uate
adeq
It
d
upon
ment, base
when in its prudent banking judg
rer.
clea
what
be
t
some
migh
the intended difference between the two
connection, is the fact that an
More important, in this
prescribed by g 1.4. It appears that
entirely different criterion is
d be equally applicable to the
the criterion specified in 0 1.5(a) woul
ling
this respect would avoid the puzz
0 1.4 situation, and uniformity in
the
objective, if any, was intended by
question as to what different
d ifference in language.
includes
fined terms. The Regulation
7. Use of new and unde
defined, and their meanings
a number of novel terms. Those are not
aps the most important is
are not clear from the terms themselves. Perh

-2This provision
the term "qualified investment department" in 0 1.5(b).
banks and supervisors, since
Probably would lead to conflicts between
ities are purthe latter will be required to determine, whenever secur
asing bank
purch
r the
chased under the provisions of g 1.5(b), whethe
tment". Presumably, this term
possesses a "qualified investment depar
organized departis not intended to include only large and formally
officer and assistants
ments, since a smaller institution may have an
evaluate securiwho are as capable as a larger bank's organization to
investment department" standard
ties. Consequently, if the "qualified
find it necessary
is to have any effect whatever, bank examiners will
to grade each bank's "investment department" as "qualified" or
arrangement seems clear.
unqualified". The undesirability of such an
term that could give rise to
Another example of an undefined
in 0 1.5(b). Presumd ifficulties is "based upon reliable estimates",
and so on.
ably, these will be estimates of firms of traffic engineers,
ate
evalu
to
ners
exami
Is it advisable, or practical, to require bank
the reliability of professional estimates?
is intended to cover only
8. It is inferred that g 1.5(a)
securities of obligors that have a financial history, whereas g 1.5(b)
d in a
is intended to apply only to the .securities of obligors engage
new and unproved enterprise. It might be advisable to indicate this
bY a brief sentence in 0 1.5(b), since "estimates" could be made
regarding the prospects of established enterprises as well as new ones.
g of the Comptroller"
9. In g 1.5(c), "a published rulin
the
by
Comptroller". This
hed
publis
should be changed to "a ruling
an individual bank, and
to
sent
g
rulin
would avoid any inference that a
bility under 0 1.5(c),
eligi
for
basis
a
Published by it, would constitute
which presuwably is not intended.
d that the
10. (For purposes of this comment, it is assume
dual
indivi
a
of
gate
list
promul
Comotrol
to
ler has legal authority
as to
ruling
A
l
.)
list"
"lega
a
of
eligible securities in the nature
circumstances
eligibility for purchase necessarily rests on the relevant
from
at the time of the ruling. The quality of a security may change
1963
y in
time to time; securities that are of bank-investment qualit
However,
or
two
year
later.
a
ible
inelig
r 1aY deteriorate and become
(
;
security is "ruled eligible for
a 1.5(0 appears to provide that, if a
Purchase" by the Comptroller at any time, it will continue to be eligible
would be an undesirable
at all times thereafter. Obviously, this
to
purchase weak, speculative,
banks
t
permi
arrangement, since it would
had ruled those
°r defaulted securities simply because the Comptroller
securities "eligible" in the past, when their quality was better.
ent, unless the
The solution to this difficulty is not appar
CO
zation in his office that will
mptroller intends to maintain an organi
y of all securities theretofore
keel) up-to-date on the investment qualit

2371
-3ities that have deteriorated
"ruled eligible", and to "de-list" secur
table for bank
in quality to such an extent as to make them unsui
investment.
general prohibition against
11. Section 1.6(a) contains a
in a total
a bank's holding "investment securities of any one obligor
al and surplus". The term
amount in excess of 107. of the bank's capit
1.3(b) to include securities that
investment security" is defined in 8
Accordingly,
are exempted by R. S. 5136 from the 107. limitation.
R. S. 5136, a
by
ded
§ 1.6(a) should begin "Except as otherwise provi
bank may not hold", etc.
the statutory 107. limitation,
12. For the purpose of applying
tment "is to be
0 1.6(a) provides that the amount of a bank's inves
the security". In
of
value
face
determined on the basis of the par or
on 5136--to
Secti
by
ribed
presc
view of the purpose of the 107. limit
s funds at risk
bank'
a
of
t
amoun
compel diversification and to limit the
er the
wheth
le
ionab
quest
is
in the securities of any one obligor--it
practically
or
valid
ly
r
legal
eithe
is
use of "face value" as the measure
sell far above face value, this proadvisable. Since bonds frequently
with a capital and surplus of
1.6(a) would mean that a bank
vision of
000 or $200,000 (i.e., 157.
$150,
$1,000,000, for example, could invest
n. Accordingly, the second
ratio
corpo
or 207.) in the securities of one
t paid for the security"
amoun
"the
sentence of 6 1.6(a) should specify
ity".
the
secur
rather than "the par or face value of
intends to set a maximum limit
13. Section 1.6(b) presumably
s
purchased pursuant to pararitie
"secu
on the aggregate amount of all
rs of the proposed Regulation,
graph (b) of 6 1.5". However, some reade
lly have misinterpreted this
even though experienced in this field, actua
holdings of securities of any one obligor.
provision as fixing a limit on
"dollar
To prevent this misinterpretation, there should be inserted after
such securities,".
amount" a phrase such as ", for all
) prohibit a bank from holding
14. Sections 1.6(b) and 1.6(c
amounts specified or to be specified.
certain securities in excess of
dation in circumstances where this is
This provision might compel liqui
assume that a
not intended and would not be desirable. For example,
a total amount equal to the 57.
bank purchases "8 1.5(b) securities" in
after the percentage
aggregate limit prescribed by g 1.6(b). There
sale or redemption
increases to more than the permissible 5% (either by
securities, or increase
of other securities, decrease in value of other
language of 6 1.6(b)
in the value of the § 1.5(b) securities). The
ces, a sale of enough of the
would seem to require, in those circumstan
ribed 57. maximum.
0 1.5(b) securities to reduce the aggregate to the presc
(and a similar interpretation
This undesirable interpretation
nating the,word "hold" and, in lieu
of 0 1.6(c) could be avoided by elimi
these lines:
thereof, including something along

"44

securities pursuant to
"...may not purchase investment
r such purchase, the
paragraph (b) of g 1.5 if, afte
holdings of such securiaggregate amount of the bank's
's investment account."
ties would exceed 57. of the bank
, in this context, would
Definition of 'investment account"
seem advisable.
an aggregate limitation on the
15. Section 1.6(b) prescribes
h (b)
chased pursuant to paragrap
amount of securities that may be "pur
hase
purc
to
s
bank
it
perm
gned to
of g 1.5". However, § 1.5(b) is desi
the
Over
s.
orie
hist
l
ncia
without fina
securities of new enterprises,
b),
1.5(
0
to
uant
purs
d
hase
purc
Years, after such securities have been
sfactory financial record,
the obligor usually will establish a sati
quate evidence" that permits
and thereafter there would exist the "ade
ances, it appears unreasonumst
e circ
Purchase under § 1.5(a). In thos
seasoned issued of
able to require banks to continue to take such
tation prescribed by
limi
ying the 57.
securities into account in appl
to be the effect of 0 1.6(b) in
§ 1.6(b), Nevertheless, that seems
its present form.
ns of g 1.6(b) and g 1.6(c), it is
(In the parallel provisio
not hold at any time" and "may not at
noted that the wordings are "may
parallel nature of the proany time thereafter hold". Because of the
wording, to avoid any
lar
simi
to use
visions, it might be advisable
intended to have
are
ons
essi
expr
Possible inference that the two
different meanings.)
the Comptroller does not contemplate
16. It is assumed that
are
with respect to any securities that
making rulings, under § 1.6(c),
uded
excl
y
such securities are expressl
exempt" under R. S. 5136, since
under that section.
ions
rict
from the limitations and rest
that banks may request the Comptroller
17. Section 1.9 provides
lation or paragraph Seventh
for rulings on the "application of the Regu
to include
"bank" is defined in g 1.3(a)
Of 12 U.S.C. 24". The term
member State
to
g 1.9 is an invitation
State member banks. Accordingly,
utory
stat
the Regulation or of the
banks to seek interpretations of
:
made
The following comments are
provision from the Comptroller.
(g 1.9) seems unnecessary, no
(a) The entire provision
required to enable banks to
regulatory authorization is
rpret applicable statutes or regu
request supervisors to inte
on
horization" of such requests
lations, and specific "aut
suggest that interpretations will
this subject might seem to
well
. Accordingly, g 1.9 might
not be made on other subjects
be deleted.
retained, its application
(b) If such a provision is
banks. As the Board recently
should be confined to national

-5Board's responsibility
informed the Comptroller, it is the
as they apply to
tions
regula
to interpret Federal laws and
to seek such
banks
those
member State banks, and inviting
to unneceslead
might
oller
interpretations from the Comptr
does not
t
commen
(This
sary conflicts and complications.
gated
promul
list"
"legal
relate to securities included in a
.)
1.5(c)
§
ed
propos
by the Comptroller pursuant to the
would permit banks
18. Convertible securities. Section 1.10
provided the
stock,
into
to purchase securities that are convertible
price that
se
purcha
the
bank immediately charged off the portion of
independently
ered
consid
ty
exceeded the "investment value of the securi
of the conversion feature", etc.
provision of R. S. 5136
This provision (1) would contravene a
erable number of
consid
A
rable.
and (2) would be substantively undesi
their "investment
convertible debentures sell at prices far in excess of
purchase of
the
and
e,
featur
sion
value's, solely because of the conver
stock into
the
of
se
purcha
to
,
effect
such securities is equivalent, in
-priced
higher
of
sample
broad
a
of
vhich they are convertible. A check
Stock Exchange (at prices
convertible debentures traded on the New York
ses that, without
disclo
ure)
debent
ranging up to $3,380 for a $1,000
s of the value of
dollar
few
a
within
exception, the price of the bond is
the stock into which it is convertible.
banks to invest in
The Federal banking statutes forbid
corporate stocks. As mentioned, however, the purchase of convertible
securities at prices greatly in excess of face value is tantamount to
demonstrated by (a) the
investment in the stock itself. This is
and the convertible bonds
stock
the
of
relationship between the prices
the prices of both
which
in
manner
in such instances and (b) the
In
these circumstances,
y.
ntiall
substa
fluctuate to the same extent,
it has been considered that bank purchase of such convertible securities
investwould be an attempt to evade the statutory prohibition of stock
isory
ments, and it has not been permitted by the Federal superv
A uthorities.
'
the present Investment
This position is reflected in g 1.3(f) of
Securities Regulation of the Comptroller of the Currency, and paragraph
330 of the Comptroller's Digest of Opinions points out that
higher
"A convertible bond selling at a price considerably
be
must
y
yield
and
qualit
able
than other issues of compar
value
ative
specul
the
matter
this
recognized as reflecting in
stock
the
of
the
value
is,
--that
ege"
of the conversion privil
that the convertible bond actually represents.

-6provision such as § 1.10,
Inclusion in the RAdulatLon of a
y speculative investhighl
make
therefore, might encourage banks to
proposed § 1.3(b) and
ments contrary to the principle stated in the
addition would appear
also contrary to sound banking practices, and in
st
to approve attempted evasion of the statutory prohibition again
of convertible
stock investments by indirection, through purchase
sively on their
exclu
t
s ecurities whose price clearly is based almos
of Governors urges
Board
value as eauity securities. Accordingly, the
1.10.
deletion of the objectionable features of §
redemption price of an
19. In view of the fact that the
it is
issue of securities frequently changes with the passage of time,
recommended that the last clause of B 1.11 be amended to read: "at
Which the obligor may currently redeem such security".
dures prescribed by § 1.10
(The difference between the proce
n
and § 1.11 for amortization of premiums evidences tacit recognitio
convertible securities
of the stock-investment character of purchases of
"investment value.)
at Prices greatly in excess of their
expression that is difficult
20. Section 1.13 contains an
reflects the
to analyze: "a price level representing a yield which
t might be better
inten
the
that
sted
invgstment value", etc. It is sugge
yield" were deleted.
expressed if the words "representing a
securities acquired "d.p.c."
21. Section 1.12 provides that
ations of the Regulation.
limit
and
are not subject to the restrictions
seem to disregard those
Unless this provision is modified, it would
inadvisably. For example,
and
ily
essar
unnec
restrictions and limitations
ble investment
assume that a bank acquires, through foreclosure, eligi
us.
securities of one obligor equal to 6% of the bank's capital and surpl
,
ation
Regul
the
If that holding were excluded from the limitations of
the bank would be at liberty, under § 1.6(a), to purchase additional
capital
securities of that obligor to the extent of 107. of the bank's
in the
t
inves
to
bank
the
t
permi
and surplus. In effect, this would
tory 107.
statu
of
the
s
exces
in
s ecurities of one obligor, voluntarily,
with
1.12,
,
§
under
exist
would
limitation. (A. similar difficulty
the
by
held
were
that
ities
secur
respect to banks' investments in
limitafied
speci
a
to
ct
subje
Comptroller to be "eligible for purchase
tion", pursuant to g 1.6(c).)