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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

July 14, 1966

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane
Gov. Maisel
Gov. Brimmer

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Thursday, July 14, 1966.

The Board met in the Board

Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Robertson, Vice Chairman
Shepardson
Daane 1/
Maisel
Brimmer
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Bakke, Assistant Secretary
Young, Senior Adviser to the Board and
Director, Division of International Finance
Mr. Solomon, Adviser to the Board
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Mr. Hexter, Associate General Counsel
Mr. Shay, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Hooff, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Miss Wolcott, Technical Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Messrs. Forrestal and Sanders and Miss Hart,
Senior Attorneys, Legal Division
Mr. Ring, Technical Assistant, Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations
Approved items.

The following items were approved unanimously

after consideration of background information that had been made available to the Board.

Copies are attached under the respective numbers

indicated.

1/ Entered meeting at point indicated in minutes.

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-2Item No.

Letter to County Bank of Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz,
California, approving the establishment of a
branch at Bay and High Streets and commenting on
the bank's capital position.

1

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
approving the payment of salary to Jack P.
Thompson as Vice President at the rate fixed
by the Bank's Board of Directors.

2

In connection with Item No. 2, it was noted that Mr. Thompson
was retiring shortly under optional provisions of the Civil Service
Retirement Plan and therefore would be receiving a Civil Service annuity
in addition to his salary as a Reserve Bank officer.

Members of the

Board indicated that they saw no reason from a policy standpoint to
Object to arrangements of such kind.
Report on competitive factors.

A report to the Federal Deposit

Insurance Corporation on the competitive factors involved in the proposed merger of Prentiss County Home Bank, Booneville, Mississippi,
With The Bank of Tupelo, Tupelo, Mississippi, was approved unanimously
for transmittal to the Corporation.

The conclusion stated that:

There appears to be little, if any, competition existing
between Prentiss County Home Bank, Booneville, and The Bank
of Tupelo; and the overall effect of the proposal on competition would not be adverse.
Denver Branch building (Item No. 3).

In a letter dated

November 5, 1965, the Board authorized the Federal Reserve Bank of
Kansas City to proceed with the preparation of detailed plans and

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specifications for a proposed Denver Branch building, in accordance with
Preliminary plans and specifications as they might be amended in consideration of suggestions made by the Board's Consulting Architect and the
Division of Bank Operations.

The Board also suggested that the design

be revised to assure that adequate consideration had been given to
security at the first floor level against riot and civil commotion.
Subsequently, revisions were made and, pursuant to Board approval on
May 4, 1966, the security features of the plans and specifications of
the building were reviewed by a representative of the Secret Service.
There had now been distributed a memorandum from the Division
of Bank Operations dated July 11, 1966, relating to a letter of June 22
With which the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City had submitted revised
Plans and specifications along with a renewed request for authority to
call for bids.

Attached was a draft of telegram to the Bank that would

grant such authority.
In commenting on the situation, Mr. Farrell underscored the
acute need for additional working space at the Denver Branch and noted
that the Bank management had stated that no unusual inflationary pressures were indicated in the construction industry in Denver.
Following discussion, unanimous approval was given to the
Proposed telegram.

A copy is attached as Item No. 3.

It was agreed,

however, that it would be desirable to obtain, as a matter of record,
information from the Bank on the main reasons for the difference of

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$686,000 between current cost estimates and the estimates furnished
With the preliminary plans in October 1965.
Classification of Christmas Club accounts and related matters
(Item No. 4).

At yesterday's meeting there had been discussion of a

distributed memorandum, dated July 11, from the Legal Division relating
to the question whether Christmas Club accounts should be classified
as "savings deposits" or as "other time deposits" in determining reserve
requirements under the Board's June 27, 1966, amendment to the Supplement to Regulation D (Reserves of Member Banks) and to a similar question in connection with Regulation Q (Payment of Interest on Deposits).
Alternative courses of action that might be followed and the reasoning
underlying each course were set out in the memorandum.

However, final

action had been deferred at the request of Governor Brimmer.
Subsequently, there had been distributed a memorandum dated
July 13 from the Legal Division submitting:

(1) a proposed telegram

to the Reserve Banks regarding the classification of Christmas Club
accounts as "savings deposits"; and (2) a draft of proposed amendments
to Regulations D and Q that would redefine "savings deposits" in the
manner recommended in the Legal Division's memorandum of July 11, as
d iscussed at the July 13 meeting.

The memorandum also recommended

that the proposed amendments be published in the Federal Register for
comment and that copies be sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Federal Reserve

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Banks with requests for their views.

It was further suggested that

copies of the Legal Division's memorandum of July 11 be furnished the
Reserve Banks as background information.
At the beginning of the discussion, Governor Brimmer indicated
that after further study he concurred in the recommendations contained
in the Legal Division's July 13 memorandum.

Comments then centered

Upon the timing of submission of the proposed amendments to the Federal
Register.
It was agreed that the draft notice of proposed rule making
would be sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and to the
Comptrollers Office for comment, and that the text would not be sent
to the Federal Register until advice had been received from the Corporation whether it wished to propose a similar amendment to its regulatiOn

concerning interest paid by nonmember insured banks.
No objection was interposed to the suggestion of the Legal

131-visi0n that copies of the July 11 memorandum be furnished the Reserve
Banks.
Unanimous approval was then given to the proposed telegram to
the Reserve Banks.

A copy is attached as Item No , 4.

Regulation T (Item No. 5).

Miss Hart reported that several

Inquiries had been received from mutual fund dealers who anticipated
that, as a result of the airline strike, they might not receive payment
frOm some "special cash account" customers within the seven business

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days required by section 220.4(c)(2) of Regulation T (Credit by Brokers,
Dealers, and Members of National Securities Exchanges).

Under

section 220.4(c)(6) of that Regulation, an extension of time could be
granted by appeal to the appropriate committee of a national securities
exchange or national securities association; in the cases in question,
however, the dealers were neither members of a stock exchange nor of
the National Association of Securities Dealers, and therefore had no
recourse for waiver of the time requirement.

This meant that failure

of the customer to make payment as prescribed would necessitate
reversal of the transaction.
To correct this situation during the present emergency, Miss
Hart proposed that a wire be sent to the Reserve Banks authorizing
them to act as the "appropriate committee" for purposes of section
220.4(c)(6) of Regulation T.
Following discussion, unanimous approval was given to a telegram to the Reserve Banks in the form attached as Item No. 5, with the
Ilnderstanding that the staff would also prepare for submission to the
Board a definitive amendment to Regulation T providing for resort to
this procedure with respect to mutual funds under circumstances that
would warrant waiver of the time requirement by a national securities
exchange or association.
Governor Daane entered the room at this point and all members
of the staff except Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon, Young, Solomon (Adviser),
Molony, Cardon, and Hackley withdrew.

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Rates of interest on deposits.

The Vice Chairman stated that

he would like to report on certain meetings and conversations he had
had yesterday afternoon and this morning.

With respect to the proposed

action to lower the maximum rate payable by member banks on time deposits with multiple maturities, he could say that such action had the
whole-hearted support of the Council of Economic Advisers and, he
believed, the Secretary of the Treasury also.

As to the Board's pro-

posal for legislation that would provide broadened rate regulatory
Powers for the Board, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and
the Home Loan Bank Board, it had now been announced publicly that the
Secretary of the Treasury had recommended legislation that would place
a temporary statutory ceiling on all certificates of deposit up to
$100,000 and would provide discretionary authority for the Board and
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to fix different interest rate
ceilings for different kinds of time deposits, along with authority for
the Home Loan Bank Board to fix ceilings on dividends payable by savings
and loan associations.
The Vice Chairman said he had sent copies of the Board's proposed
regulation relating to multiple maturity time deposits and copies of

the Board's legislative proposal to the Chairman of the Home Loan Bank
Board and to the Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
He understood that the

directors of the Corporation were going to meet

this afternoon, after which they would advise whether the Corporation

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was willing to go along with the regulation (in its applicability to
nonmember insured banks) and with the legislative proposal.
The Vice Chairman went on to say that he hoped the Board could
issue an announcement tomorrow concerning the regulation and include
in the announcement a statement concerning the legislative proposal,
With notation in the latter regard that the proposal was being submitted
after consultation with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and
the Home Loan Bank Board.

It would be helpful, of course, if it

developed that the legislative proposal could also have the support of
the Secretary of the Treasury and the Council of Economic Advisers.

He

then requested that the Board's staff begin the drafting of a press
release that might be issued tomorrow, along with letters to the Chairmen of the appropriate Congressional Committees transmitting the legislative proposal.
Governor Maisel suggested the possibility of withholding an
announcement temporarily to determine whether agreement would be obtained
from other quarters, and Governor Brimmer indicated that he would not
want to delay beyond tomorrow.

He felt that the initiative should be

taken by the Board in a timely fashion.

After further discussion of

the question of timing, there was general agreement that it would be
desirable to proceed tomorrow

and that the Board would meet at 9:00 a.m.

for consideration of the matter in the light of developments by that
time.

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-9Discount rate.

The Vice Chairman then stated that it appeared

that the Board would have before it for consideration tomorrow telegrams from some Federal Reserve Banks advising that the directors of
those Banks had increased the discount rate, subject to review and
determination by the Board.

In his opinion the actions by the directors

would involve rate increases of 1/2 of 1 per cent.

He then said that

he had discussed the situation with the Council of Economic Advisers
and the Secretary of the Treasury in order to receive any views they
might care to express.

He had reported to the Board yesterday one

conversation with the Secretary, and later the Secretary had advised
that he continued to be opposed to a 1/2 per cent discount rate increase.
The Secretary indicated that he would be more inclined to favor the
alternative proposal that Governor Robertson had outlined to him on a
Personal basis whereby the Board would determine, if necessary, a rate
of 5-1/2 per cent, with an announcement along the lines that he (Governor
Robertson) had suggested yesterday.

After thorough study, however, the

Secretary had concluded on balance that he would not favor such a course
of action.

He felt that the shock to the market would be great, market

rates would be likely to move higher, and the action would not be effective in curbing inflationary psychology.

Accordingly, the Secretary

hoped that no action would be taken to increase the discount rate at
this time.
The Council, Governor Robertson said, held the view that a 1/2
Percentage point increase would be a waste of power and serve no purpose,

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that it would not quiet uncertainties in the market, and that the better
course would be to police the discount window strictly.

The Council

had doubts about going to 5-1/2 per cent at this stage, partially on the
ground that it would be difficult to move down from that level.

In

substance, the Council strongly favored retaining the present discount
rate, and indicated that the President did also.
The Vice Chairman said it was his own view that either the
Present discount rate should be maintained or the rate should be raised
high enough to have a definite impact.

He was personally convinced

that the expansion of credit must be curbed.

He believed it might be

desirable if the discount rate were raised one full point, with an
announcement that the Board had no intention of raising Regulation Q
ceilings.

Such an operation had not been tried, however, and he could

not say with assurance that it would be the right thing to do.

Conse-

quently, he came out in his thinking to the conclusion that the issue
was not great enough to warrant a break with the Administration and a
repetition of the situation that occurred last December.

he would be opposed to any discount rate increase now.

Accordingly,

This, however,

did not in any way diminish his feeling that the Board must do the best
Possible job of curbing the flow of reserves into the banking system.
It must discourage any further expansion of bank credit at recent
rates.

The banks, in his opinion, were not doing the job they ought

to do.

They still felt that the Board would raise Regulation Q ceilings,

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although the issuance of the regulation on multiple maturity time
deposits should have some effect in diminishing that expectation.
Governor Shepardson said he felt more than ever that the Board
must issue an announcement, in connection with the regulation and the
legislative proposal, which would make clear what the action and the
Proposal implied.

He also raised the question whether the announcement

Should not contain some indication of the type of action that the Board
might be likely to take if the proposed legislation were enacted.
The Vice Chairman brought out that it would hardly be feasible
to commit the Board in advance on that point, especially since some
members were away at this time.

On the other hand, the announcement

could bring out that the purpose of proposing the legislation was to
express concern that the necessary powers be made available in order
to take such action as seemed appropriate to deal with whatever problems
might develop.

It could reflect a desire to curb bank credit expansion

Without further rate escalation.
Governor Daane commented that he might well come out eventually
at the same point as the Vice Chairman on the discount rate.

This was

an important decision for the Board, however, and he was unhappy about
the situation because he felt there was a good case for approving a
1/2 per cent increase if the Board was advised that directors of Federal
Reserve Banks had taken such action.
Governor Robertson commented that one of the factors influencing
his thinking was the action that had just been announced to increase the

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British Bank rate from 6 per cent to 7 per cent.

In this connection

he read an explanatory cable that had been received from the Bank of
England.

He noted that it could be argued that the British action

Should be allowed to exert its full effect and not be weakened by
Offsetting action here.
Governor Daane said that he felt the market was expecting a 1/2
Per cent discount rate increase.

If such an increase was made, it should

have some effect in clearing the air and removing uncertainty.
this was his opinion, although the Treasury did not agree.

At least

He believed

that the market had already discounted such a move in large measure,
and that there was practically no danger of any market reaction other
than to regard the increase as a technical adjustment of the discount
rate to market rates.

Viewed in the longer run, such action would also

be useful in relation to other instruments of monetary policy.

The

Federal Reserve had turned the screw on credit availability through open
market operations, and many times in the past it had followed with a
discount rate increase when the relationship to market rates got clearly
out of line.

Other things being equal, he felt that this would be

appropriate action to take now.
In addition, Governor Daane said, he was apprehensive that a feelwas growing around the world that this country was not too much
concerned about its balance of payments.
fleet the existence of such concern.

A discount rate increase would

Even though the action itself

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might be of minimal importance from the balance of payments standpoint,
it would indicate that the central banking system was still operative
and was doing what it should be doing.

As to the British Bank rate

increase, it could be argued abroad that the Federal Reserve, by not
taking discount rate action, was not responding as a central bank should.
Such an appraisal would react adversely to the dollar in foreign exchange markets.
In summary, Governor Daane said, he had considerable sympathy
for taking affirmative action on any Reserve Bank proposal for a 1/2 per
cent discount rate increase.

Like the Vice Chairman, however, he was

not certain whether the taking of such action would be worth a disruption of Governmental relationships.

The move perhaps was not quite

that urgent; the current rate relationships probably could continue for
a few more weeks without great danger.

Further, he thought there was

something to be said for avoiding action at this time if it involved a
s ubstantial split within the Board itself.

This might be exaggerated

in the press and have certain harmful effects.
Governor Maisel expressed the view that continued adherence to
a theory that the discount rate had to be changed because of market
relationships or in light of balance of payments relationships would

not be in the System's best interest. This was not the way the System
should be operated, and the System would not succeed in its objectives.
In the past there had been a tendency to look at changes in the discount

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rate primarily on the basis of technical considerations, but in his view
that was not appropriate.

He agreed with Governor Shepardson that the

a vailability of credit should be tightened, but he felt that the Board
had not done enough thinking about alternative types of action.

Com-

pared with other central banks, the Federal Reserve had been loath to
use a variety of tools.

For example, consideration might be given to

the use, for domestic purposes, of a mechanism such as the voluntary
foreign credit restraint program.

Or the Board might consider steps

similar to those taken at various times by the British authorities,
including the limiting of amounts of loans of certain types.

Instead,

the thinking had been directed mainly along traditional lines.

He

felt definitely that the Board should not think of the discount rate

in terms of the technical problem of bringing it into line with market
rates.

If Reserve Banks were to come in with proposals for a discount

rate increase, he would like to see them rejected publicly.

He did not

imagine that the Board members would go along with such a course, but

he felt that it would be the best thing the Board could do.

It would

then be known publicly that the Board was not in favor of changing the
d iscount rate.
Governor Daane said he had been using the word "technical" in

the sense that the System's policy instruments were interrelated.
the

When

System kept turning the screws on the side of restricting the availof credit, it did not seem appropriate to leave the discount

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rate--which was an important rate--out of consideration.

He rejected

the view that the use of the discount rate was limited to an announcement effect.

The discount rate had an important role in the market

that should not be ignored.
Governor Maisel said he did not feel there was any misunderstanding in terms of language.

There was, however, disagreement as to

the use of the discount rate in a period such as the present.
Governor Brimmer said he hoped that discount rate increases
would not come in from Federal Reserve Banks.

If they did, however, he

would vote against them on the ground that the price to be paid was too
high.

He shared the concern that had been expressed about taking such

action in the face of the views expressed elsewhere in Government, even
though he felt those views were wrong.
As to other aspects of the matter, Governor Brimmer said that
in his judgment it was the Board's responsibility to manage the central
banking system as it stood and to use the instruments presently available to it.

He tended to agree with the view that it would be desirable

if other kinds of guidelines were available, but currently they were
not available.

Therefore, the System must be managed as constituted

in the present law and regulations.
Continuing, Governor Brimmer said he would not shy away from
using the discount rate as one of the tools in the System's kit.

He

would want to use it if the circumstances were different, and he hoped

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that it would be possible to come back to it, for the rate served a
useful purpose in the market.

The Government securities market should

not be injured; it was the principal instrument available to the System
for affecting the availability of credit.

There had recently been an

examp le of the difficulty confronting the Account Manager because of the
uncertainties in the market:

last Friday, the Account Manager could

not sell $100 million of Treasury bills for foreign accounts.

There

was a need to restore confidence and induce the dealers again to take
positions in their stock in trade.

A discount rate increase of 1/2 per

cent would be helpful in that direction.
Governor Brimmer went on to say that he did not agree that a
One point increase would necessarily convince people that the System
had moved as far as it was going to move.

In his opinion such an

increase would create too much of a shock, and it should be remembered
that the discount rate was a delicate instrument.

On the other hand,

he would not be averse, other things being equal, to moving up 1/2 per
cent now with another 1/2 per cent increase later.
Possible to talk the dealers into taking positions.

It was simply not
If he was wrong

about the vital role of the dealers, perhaps that would change his mind,
but he was not convinced he was wrong.
The immediate question, Governor Brinaer concluded, was what to
do if discount rate increases came in from Reserve Banks.

As he read

the sentiment around the table, it was felt that it would be risky to

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engage again in a controversy such as occurred last December.

He agreed,

although he shared Governor Daane's view that a rate increase could have
a calming effect on the market.
Governor Maisel commented that he was not convinced that the
System did not have other instruments at its disposal.
a careful study be made of the possibilities.

He urged that

Selective controls were

being used in the foreign field, and he thought they should be considered
also for use in the domestic field, although he would not necessarily
su ggest using them today.

The System, he felt, had not given enough

Consideration to whether such instruments should be used or not.
Governor Brimmer observed that in the past such instruments had
been used in conjunction with general credit controls.

As he recalled,

nobody had then said that the discount rate should be held down and
credit rationed as an alternative.
Governor Daane commented that unusual success had been experienced
With the voluntary foreign credit restraint program.

However, the experi-

ence with the voluntary credit restraint program in the early 1950's had
been dismal, and under current circumstances he thought the results
wouldbe even more dismal if a similar program were attempted now.
Governor Brimmer said that the Board should not delude itself.
The Federal Reserve could not keep turning the screws on the availability
side and then try to talk rates down.

It ought to be prepared to pay

the price on the rate side, if necessary, to deter the growth of credit.

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screws further on availability and at the same time hope to keep rates
steady, against the background of strong credit demands.
Governor Maisel then commented that he was simply suggesting
that the Board go back and look at the whole question.

What he was

talking about was the long history of monetary policy and related
central bank action.

The Board should review the history of what had

been done in various countries.
The Vice Chairman remarked that he thought the exchange of views
had been helpful and that no member of the Board was committed to a
Position pending further discussion tomorrow if discount rate increases
Should come in from Reserve Banks.

He then invited comments from the

staff.
Mr. Young reviewed current international developments, with
Particular reference to the position of sterling.

He noted, among other

things, that the initial market reaction to the increase in the British
Bank rate had been disappointing.

Also, in the London market there had

been a steady rise in the price of gold recently, with a considerable
Volume of trading.

A pending question was whether South Africa would

become subject to sanctions by the Security Council of the United Nations,
and this had substantial economic ramifications.

An international crisis

centering around sterling seemed to be in process of formation,
forces underlying it seemed to be strong.

and the

Thus, the entire international

financial situation was explosive and would bear close watching.

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-19On the question of the mechanisms that might be resorted to in

terms of meeting the purely domestic problem, Mr. Young suggested that
the point might be approaching when it would be necessary to consider
all kinds of selective controls in addition to general controls.

How-

ever, the volume of borrowing at the Reserve Bank discount windows had
not been extremely high.

While the number of banks affected was increas-

ing, the discount mechanism did not tend to be an effective over-all
restraint until more banks were involved than had been the case so far.
Thus, there was some elbowroom for moving toward a deeper net borrowed
reserve position without discount rate action.
There were a lot of contingencies, both internationally and
d omestically, that tended to make a decision on discount rate action
difficult, Mr. Young added.

The market had acquired a tightness that

made the discount rate look out of line, and there ought to be a reasonable relationship to market rates.

One should not overemphasize the

importance of the discount rate in the market, nor should one underestimate it from the technical standpoint.
Mr. Solomon expressed the view that it would be necessary to
adjust the discount rate at some time in the not too distant future, but
he was not certain when that point would be reached.

As to the points

raised in the preceding exchange of comments between Board members on
the use of the discount rate instrument, he noted that a rate increase
had an announcement effect, which sometimes was desirable and other

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times not.

It was not always possible to determine what the announce-

ment effect would be.

He was now preparing for the Board's considera-

tion a memorandum containing a proposal for a procedure that might help
to avoid undue announcement effects when such were not wanted.

As to

the matter of eliminating uncertainties, he noted that it was always
Possible for rumors to get started in the market that tended toward
forcing a rate increase simply by virtue of the market itself deciding
that the rate should be raised.

The System should not be in the posi-

tion of having the market dictate its policies.

One got into difficulties

if he leaned too heavily on the argument that the market expected a discount rate increase, and that this must be done to eliminate uncertainty.
It was always possible to take alternative actions.

As to the relation-

ship between the availability of credit and rates, the open market
instrument--which was the major instrument of policy--determined the
availability of bank reserves.

But what was done on the availability

Side also had an effect on market rates.

The System was working not

only on the availability of credit but also on the rate structure when
it used open market operations.
Turning to the thought that the System should not offset the
impact of the British Bank rate change, Mr. Solomon advanced the view
that if the System acted immediately such action might be regarded by
the foreign exchange markets as saying that the Federal Reserve felt so
uncertain and so worried about the U.S. position that it could not

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permit the British, even though they were in dire straits, to move up
Without following them.
Position as very weak.

The markets thus might interpret the U.S.
As to the possibility of a sterling crisis

ahead, Mr. Solomon observed that even if sterling was not in trouble
there might be a gold crisis ahead.

The two problems might come together

at the same time.
Governor Shepardson then said he felt that in the present set
of circumstances any discount rate change should definitely take the
form of a 1 per cent increase, and that a 1/2 per cent increase would
simply result in people waiting for the other shoe to fall.

In light

of the total situation--including the views of the Administration, which
could not be ignored, and the international situation--he questioned
Whether the Federal Reserve should do anything on the discount rate at
this particular point, even admitting that the rate was considerably
out of line with market rates and that at some point the gap had to be
Closed.

At the same time he realized the position the dealers were in,

and that it might not be possible to get them to take positions.
This all raised the question, Governor Shepardson said, whether
the use of the reserve requirement instrument should not be considered.
The Board was preparing to take action in the Regulation Q area and to
make a statement that would reflect the purpose of the action, along
With the reasons for seeking legislation to provide for broadened
regulatory control over deposit interest rates.

A possible further

move toward the tightening of credit availability would be to raise
reserve requirements.

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added, would certainly put more pressure on the discount window.

Per-

haps the Board should issue a statement to the Federal Reserve Banks
emphasizing the general principles that it felt the Reserve Banks should
be following in the administration of the discount window under present
circumstances.

In view of the possibilities for using other tools at

the Board's disposal, he felt that discount rate action probably should
be deferred for the moment.

At such time as rate action was taken, how-

ever, the move should be of adequate magnitude.
Mr. Molony observed at this point that from the comments around
the table it seemed rather clear that the Board would not be inclined
to approve tomorrow any increased discount rates that might be established
by Reserve Banks.

He raised the question whether the Board would want to

communicate informally to the Banks that it would seem untimely to consider a discount rate increase just now, perhaps citing the British Bank
rate action as a reason.
This possibility was discussed by the Board and some reasons
were advanced in favor of such a procedure, including the fact that thus
far the Reserve Bank Presidents and directors presumably had no particular reason to believe that the Board's attitude toward a discount rate
increase might be negative.

Therefore, some informal communication of

attitude at this time could have the effect of avoiding what might seem
to be an impasse within the System.

Comment also was made regarding

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the possibility of a leak, which might be misleading to the market if
interpreted in terms that the Board was unalterably opposed to a change
in the discount rate.
Questions were raised regarding procedures followed in somewhat
similar situations in the past, and it was noted that on a number of
occasions the Board had held discount rate proposals for some period
of time without action.

It was also mentioned that, while a definite

negative action by the Board presumably would be recorded in the record
of policy actions contained in the Board's Annual Report, there was no
precedent for a press release if the Board failed to approve discount
rates established by Reserve Banks.
Arguments against communicating a Board attitude to Reserve
Banks at this time included the view that there was much to be said
for having the Reserve Bank directors exercise their own judgment and
for the burden of determination then to rest upon the Board.

As to the

risk of a possible leak, it was noted that it would seem unfortunate
if word were to get out that the Board had in any sense requested
Reserve Banks not to act to increase the discount rate.
There was general agreement, however, that if Reserve Banks
es tablished a higher discount rate and the Board did not approve such
rate, an explanation of the reasons should be sent to the Reserve Banks.
There followed further discussion of the content of the announcement proposed to be issued tomorrow concerning the action on multiple

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maturity time deposits and the Board's legislative proposal, after
which it was understood that a draft would be available for the Board's
consideration when it met at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board a request
from Michael D. Sherman, Division of Research
and Statistics, for permission to work parttime as an economic assistant for a local
firm of transportation consultants.
Governor Shepardson also approved on behalf
of the Board a request from Paul C. Kainen,
Division of Research and Statistics, for
permission to teach a course in introduction
to art at a local school.

Secretary )

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Item No. 1
7/14/66

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONCENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 14, 1966

Board of Directors,
County Bank of Santa Cruz,
Santa Cruz, California.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System approves the establishment by County Bank of
Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, California, of a branch in the
vicinity of the intersection of Bay and High Streets,
Santa Cruz, California, provided the branch is established
Within one year from the date of this letter.
The Board notes that your bank's capital position
is somewhat less than satisfactory and urges that serious
consideration be given to strengthening the bank's capital
structure so that continued growth of the bank will be on a
sound basis.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

(The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the
Board also had approved a six-minth extension
of the period allowed to establish the branch;
and that if an extension should be requested,
the procedure prescribed in the Board's letter
of November 9, 1962 (S-1846), should be followed.)

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

July 14, 1966

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)
Mr. Charles J. Scanlon, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
Chicago, Illinois. 60690
Dear Mr. Scanlon:
The Board of Governors approves the payment of
salary to Mr. Jack P. Thompson as a Vice President of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago at the rate of $23,000 per
annum for the period October 1 through December 31, 1966.
This is the rate fixed by your Board of Directors as
reported in your letter of July 1.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

July 14, 1966.

CLAY - KANSAS CITY
Referring your letter April 18, Board authorizes
calling for bids for construction of building for Denver
Branch on basis of revised specifications and plans referred
to in Mk. Boysen's letter of June 22, 1966.

(Signed) Merritt Sherman

SHERMAN

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WASHINGTON

July 14, 1966
President, all Federal Reserve Banks

Question has been raised whether Christmas club accounts should
be classified as savings deposits or other time deposits for purposes
of reserve requirements under amended supplement to Regulation D.
Footnote 2 in Regulation D expressly states that Christmas club
and vacation club accounts constitute time deposits, open account.
Consequently, such accounts must be classified as other time
deposits for purposes of reserve requirements.

Likewise, by reason

Of similar footnote in Regulation Q, such accounts must be classified
as time deposits, open account, rather than savings deposits for
purposes of that Regulation.
Board is considering certain amendments to Regulations D and Q, one
of which would classify Christmas club and vacation club accounts
as savings deposits.

Copy of proposed amendments to be published

in Federal Register for comment will be sent you shortly.
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Sherman

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WASHINGTON

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July 14, 1966.

Presidents, all Federal Reserve Banks

Board has received several inquiries from mutual fund dealers
who fear that they may not receive payment from some customers
Within seven business days, as required by section 4(c)(2) of
Regulation T, due to airline strike or other circumstances that
would justify extensions of that period, but are neither NASD nor
stock exchange members and apparently are unable to obtain extensions from the committees referred to in section 4(c)(6).

In

such cases Board authorizes your Bank to act as "appropriate
committee" for purposes of section 4(c)(6).

Suggested forms and

procedure follow.

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Sherman