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FR 609

Rev, 1o/59

Minutes for

To:

January

6 1961

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below.
If you were present at the meeting, your initials will
indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present,
your initials will indicate only that you have seen the
minutes.




Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
Friday, January

6, 1961.

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Szymczak
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Adviser to the Board
Young, Adviser to the Board
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Koch, Adviser, Division of Research
and Statistics
Landry, Assistant to the Secretary
Eckert, Chief, Banking Section, Division
of Research and Statistics
Keir, Chief, Government Finance Section,
Division of Research and Statistics

Report on the money market.
ments

Mr. Keir reported on recent develop-

in the money market, and Mr. Eckert commented on the situation with

respect to bank reserves and the money supply.
Following this report all members of the staff with the exception
Of Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon, and Landry withdrew and the following entered
the room:




Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Ccnkling, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Nelson, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Rudy, Special Assistant, Legal Division
Mr. Leavitt, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations

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-2Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Banks of New York, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, Chicago, St.
Louis, Kansas City, Dallas, and San Francisco on January

5, 1961, of the

rates on discounts and advances in their existing schedules was approved
un animously, with the understanding that appropriate advice would be sent
to those Banks.
Item circulated to the Board.

The following item, which had been

circulated to the Board and a copy of which is attached to these minutes
a8

Item No. 1, was approved unanimously:
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of
San Francisco authorizing it to accept
publication of condition reports of
California State member banks on the
amended California State Banking Department form.
Mr. Conkling then withdrew from the meeting.
Request for disclosure of unpublished information

(Items 2 and 3).,

There had been circulated to the members of the Board a file containing a
memorandum from the Legal Division dated December 22, 1960, regarding a
requ
eu-L made of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis by Mr. Robert Kratky,
an attorney of St. Louis, Missouri, for disclosure of certain unpublished
information.

the
Although the Reserve Bank was inclined toward granting

request, the Legal Division took the position that the information should

be made
the view
available only upon service of a subpoena duces tecum. In
of the
the
Division, such a procedure would reflect impartiality toward




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persons involved in pending litigation and would be more desirable than
releasing the information on the basis of the attorney's request.

Accordingly,

there was attached to the memorandum of the Division a draft of letter to Mr.
Kratky that would state the Board was not disposed to make the requested
documents available except on the basis of a subpoena duces tecum served on
an appropriate officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.
Mr. Rudy reviewed the factual situation surrounding the request made
by Mr. Kratky, which was that the Board authorize the Federal Reserve Bank
of St. Louis to release to him copies of memoranda dated April

9 and May 25,

1951) summarizing statements made to the Reserve Bank by Mrs. Louise B.
Gr
supposed
uenewaelder and the late president of a member bank regarding
improper interference by the bank president in a transaction involving Mrs.
Gruenewaelder and a Mr. E. L. Wintermann.

The memoranda indicated that

following discussions with Mrs. Gruenevaelder and the president of the
member bank, which revealed that the facts of the matter were in dispute,
the Reserve Bank concluded that no action on its part was indicated.
was

It

the view of the Legal Division, Mr. Rudy said, that it would be difficult

for the Board to sustain non-disclosure on the basis of confidentiality,
should a subpoena duces tecum be served, in view of the nature of the two
memoranda, which were of a narrative character.

The reply to Mr. Kratky

would disclose that the only files of the Bank on this subject consisted
(3f the two narrative memoranda, and it was the thought of the Legal




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Division that identification of the documents to this extent might discourage
the attorney in his efforts to secure the unpublished information.
Thereupon, the letter to Mr. Kratky was approved unanimously.

A

copy is attached as Item No. 2, and a copy of the accompanying letter to the
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis is attached as Item No.

3.

Mr. Rudy then withdrew from the meeting.
Report on competitive factors (St. Johns, Michigan).

Distribution

had been made of a draft of report to the Comptroller of the Currency on
the competitive factors involved in the proposed consolidation of The St.
J°hns National Bank and The State Bank of St. Johns, both of St. Johns,
Michigan.
The report was approved unanimously, with the conclusion stated
as follows:
The proposed consolidation will have a negligible effect
Upon the competitive situation of banks outside St. Johns; however, since the two institutions involved are the only banks in
St. Johns and the principal competitors of each other, the
lessening of competition in St. Johns will be substantial. The
proposal will give resulting bank a monopoly in both St. Johns
and its primary trade area.
Retail trade statistics program (Item No. 4).

Mr. Sherman referred

to the meeting on December 19, 1960, at which the Board approved a letter to
the Chairman of the Presidents' Conference expressing concurrence in the
action of the Presidents with respect to the retail trade statistics
Program.

Since that time, he said, it had been agreed to extend from




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January 31 to March 31, 1961, the effective date of the discontinuance of
certain department store reports, as proposed in the October 28, 1960,
progress report of the Committee of Five.

A member of that committee

raPresenting the trade planned to inform the National Retail Merchants
Association on January 11, 1961, during its annual convention, of the
steps taken to date in connection with the department store statistics
program, and it was thought desirable that there should be simultaneous
release of an official statement from the System.

A draft of such a

statement had now been prepared.
While the decision to terminate certain reports might appear to
be a rather minor thing, Mr. Sherman said, he believed it did represent
an important step toward developing better information on department store
and retail trade.

It was constructive from the standpoint of the Federal

Reserve, and in accord with what the Board, the Budget Bureau, and the
Census Bureau wanted.

He went on to say that at the present stage of the

Program:8 development there was no significant issue between the System,

the trade, the Bureau of the Census, and the Bureau of the Budget.
Whether any such issue would develop later as the Federal Reserve pulled
rurther away from the collection of department store statistics would
depend largely on how the program unfolded.

At least, however, the trade

17as now more aware of the need for improved retail trade data.

Further-

m°re, the representatives of the System had reason to feel that the steps




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taken thus far fitted in with the program contemplated by the Commerce
Department
and the Budget Bureau.

The question of future responsibility

for the various parts of the retail trade statistics program had not been
discussed too much, because that might only have raised an issue at this
time.
Secretaryts Note: Attached as Item No. 4
is a copy of the press statement that was
released on January 11, 1961.
The meeting then adjourned.

Secretaryts Note: Pursuant to recommendations contained in memoranda from appropriate
individuals concerned, Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board increases in the
basic annual salaries of the following persons
on the Boardts staff, effective January 8, 1961:

NaMa and title

Basic annual salary
To
From

Division
Board Memberst Offices

Athens J. Messick, Secretary

$ 6,545

$ 6,710

13,250
7,820
11,935

5,1490

13,510
8,080
12,195
5,655

6,600

6,765

6,345
1,750
3,500

6,675
1,803
3,605

Research and Statistics
jkallles W. Ford, Economist
:
Mary Jane Harrington, Economist
PranCiS
R. Pawley, Economist
Anita E. Perrin, Secretary
Personnel Administration
Charles Wallace Wood, Personnel Assistant
Administrative Services

t!rY E. Dorsey, Senior Printing Technician
'"reala D. Elting, Cafeteria Helper (part-time)
arland R. Gaines, Messenger




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Secretary

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No. 1
1/6/61

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

January 61 1()61

M. E. H. Galvin, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
San Francisco 20, California.
Dear Mr. Galvin:
This refers to your letter of December 6, 1960, and its
enclosures, regarding proposed changes in the California State Banking Department report form which has been accepted, in accordance with
the Boardts letter of February 28, 1952, in lieu of requiring publication on Federal Reserve Form F.R. 105e-1.
The proposed change, as outlined in your letter, in the
footnote in the assets schedule which eliminates reference to other
real estate, and the change of the footnote reference to "Bank
Premises" rather than to "Other assets," will not affect the form
f°r publication purposes inasmuch as no State bank in California
ha8 an investment indirectly representing other real estate.
In the circumstances, and in view of your recommendation,
the Board authorizes your Bank to accept, until further notice, the
Publication of condition reports of California State member banks on
the amended California State form.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
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Item No. 2
1/6/61

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

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TO THE BOARD

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January

6, 1961

Robert Kratky, Esq.,
Attorney at Law,
Suite 1301 International Building,
722 Chestnut Street,
St. Louis 1, Missouri.
Dear Sir:
This refers to your letter of December 5, 1960, stating that
You have been retained as counsel to represent Mrs. Louise B.
,.!1:11enewaelder in the cases of Louise B. Gruenewaelder v. Edward L.
.ntermann et al, number 5760-E, pending in the Circuit Court of
,
he City of St. Louis, and of E. L. Wintermann v. Louise B.
;kfruenewaelder, number 212,961, pending in the Circuit Court of
ot. Louis County, Missouri.

V

You explain that both cases arise out of a transaction
lich occurred on January 30, 1951, in the Mutual Bank and Trust
,
°mPanY of St. Louis, and that according to your information, the
'
ransaction was the subject of an examination and memorandum or
.x:eport by Federal Reserve Bank officers during March and April of
-L951. You point out that in your opinion the memorandum or report
5 the examiner's findings is vitally important to the conduct of
,t,phe above litigation and request the Board, under Title 12,
114,1art 261.2(c)(1) of the Code of Federal Regulations, to authorize
r° officers of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis to release
You a copy of such memorandum or report.

T

The Board is advised that the documents to which you refer
!
re unpublished information consisting of two narrative memoranda,
ne from Messrs. Kroner and Dunne to Mr. Peterson dated April 9, 1951,
;
oncerning an "Interview with Mrs. Louise B. Gruenewaelder, 6917
unhing, University City, Mo., April 4" and a memorandum from
B. Kline to the Files dated May 250 1951, on the subject
Iransactions between Mrs. Louise B. Gruenewaelder and Mutual Bank
and Trust Company". The Board is not disposed to make the documents




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Robert Kra ky, Esq.
available except on the basis of a subpoena deuces tecum served on
an appropriate officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.
In the event you feel disposed to so proceed, Vice President
Marvin Bennett of the Reserve Bank would be an appropriate individual
Upon whom service could be made.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No.
1/6/61

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

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January 6, 1961

Mr. Delos C. Johns, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
St. Louis 66, Missouri.
Dear Mr. Johns:
Enclosed is a letter replying to the request of Attorney
RObert Kratky for unpublished information, which you are requested
to transmit to
Mr. Kratky. In accordance with your recommendation,
the information is being made available to Mr. Kratky.
It was felt that the requirement of a subpoena deuces tecum
tor production of the documents would reflect the Board's impartiality,
:!00ward the litigants, and would be more desirable than releasing the
I
nformation on the basis of an informal request.
General Counsel Dunne of your Bank, in a telephone
conversation, furnished the name of Vice President Bennett as
!! appropriate individual upon whom service could be made, should
'
1r..Kratky decide to pursue the matter to its conclusion. You are
!!dvlsed that pursuant to section 9 of its Rules of Organization the
z5o3.rd authorizes Mr. Bennett, or other appropriate officer, to
aPPear and produce the information requested and testify in connection therewith.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) lerritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.
Enclosure




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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No.
1/6/61

4

Statement for the Press
For release at
11:00 a.m., E.S.T.,
January 11, 1961

January 11, 1961

A committee representing the department store industry, the
Bureau of the Budget, and the Federal Reserve System, stressed the need
for improved statistics on retail trade, including department store data,
in a joint statement issued today.

The committee, comprising two depart-

ment store
executives, two officials of the Federal Reserve System, and
c'ne official of the Bureau of the Budget, which has responsibility for
statistical standards, has been meeting since I,:ay 1960 for the purpose of
discussing Federal Reserve department store statistics and their relation
to

-11 improved program for over-all data on retail trade.
In reporting on its progress, the "Committee of Five" indicated

that

agreement had been reached that the Federal Reserve would continue

for the present to publish the department store statistics that have been
available through the System's regular press releases.

Certain supple-

ment.
--arY reports of relatively limited interest that have been available
°IllY to reporting stores will, by joint agreement, be discontinued as of
arch 31, 1961, except as some may be prepared for the stores on a cost
basis.
The Committee was unanimous in its view of the necessity for
better statistical coverage of retail distribution, of which the departStore statistics are an important element.




The Committee stated it

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endorses and will support a request expected to be made by the Bureau of
the Census for
funds to carry out such expansion of trade data.
Need for revision of department store statistics, which have
been compiled by the Federal Reserve since 1919, has been widely
recognized for some time.

This need arises in part from changes that

have occurred in the structure of the retail industry and in its depart—
ment store
segment.

It also reflects a need for more adequate data on

Sales for various commodity groups than are presently available.
Department stores that now participate in the Federal Reserve
Pr°gram are being notified directly by the Reserve Bank to which they
l'sPc)rt as to the specific series that will no longer be compiled after
/lareh 31 of this year.

Each Reserve Bank, however, upon request by

reporting department stores, may undertake to continue temporarily addi—
tional series that have been issued on a restricted basis in the past,
subject to reimbursement to cover the costs of these compilations for the
Stores.

The Committee will continue to meet for the purpose of dealing
with Problems that may arise during the coming months with the goal of
sPeeding the development of the present department store reports to a more
userla statistical reporting system covering retail distribution.