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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

January 6, 1958

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
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Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Vardaman 1/
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston

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Gov. Shepardson
1/ In accordance with Governor Shepardson's memorandum of March 8, 1957, these minutes are not being
sent to Governor Vardaman for initial.

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, January 6, 1958. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Carpenter, Secretary
Sherman, Assistant Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Fauver, Assistant Secretary
Riefler, Assistant to the Chairman
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board

Messrs. Young, Garfield, Noyes, and Robinson,
Miss Burr, and Messrs. Williams, Brill,
Eckert, Gehman, Jones, Miller, Manookian„
Tamagna, Wernick, and Wood of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Messrs. Marget, Furth, Hersey, Sammons, Bangs,
Reynolds, and Wood of the Division of
International Finance
Economic review.

The members of the Division of International

Finance devoted their comments principally to a review of current prices
for the principal exports of countries producing primary commodities, in
the light of the contention in some quarters that a downward trend of
Prices for such commodities might provoke a recession which would spiral
throughout the world trading system and hit the United Kingdom with
Particular force because of its position as an exporter of manufactured
goods and banker for countries in distress.

The review indicated that

the picture at present was hardly one which seemed likely to bring about
difficulties for the United Kingdom on a scale approximating those of
1931.

Rather, it was felt that the problem of more concern related to




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developments in the industrialized countries and what they might mean
In terms of their effects on the countries producing primary commodities.
The review of domestic developments by the Division of Research
and Statistics revealed a continuation of the decline of most important
economic indicators from earlier levels of business and financial
activity.
All of the members of the Research and International Finance
Divisions then withdrew from the meeting along with Messrs. Sherman,
Fauver„ Riefler, and Thomas.

Messrs. Hackley, General Counsel, Solomon,

Assistant General Counsel, and Nelson, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations, entered the roam at this point along with Messrs. Sherwin
Haxton and Millard F. Embt.
Proposed absorption of The Citizens Bank, Attica, New York.
Pursuant to arrangements previously agreed upon by the Board, Messrs.
Haxton and Embt, directors of The Citizens BEmk, Attica, New York, were
Present to offer their views with respect to the proposed absorption of
the bank by The Marine Trust Company of Western New York, Buffalo, New
York.

On December 27, 1957, the Board decided by a 3-1 vote to deny the

application of The Marine Trust Company for consent to the absorption and
approval of the establishment of a branch at the location of The Citizens
Bank, and subsequently Mr. Haxton asked for an opportunity to be heard by
the Board.
Mr. Haxton first distributed to the members of the Board copies
of a map showing the banks and branch banking offices located within an




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18-mile circle having the town of Attica as its center, along with a
statement which disclosed that four directors and their families held
2,662 of the 3,000 outstanding shares of stock of The Citizens Bank.
The statement also showed that none of these four directors was less
than 67 years of age, that four other directors held a total of 204
Shares of stock, and that the remaining 134 shares were held by 20
stockholders.
Mr. Haxton then outlined the circumstances under which he was
invited about 10 years ago to become the principal stockholder of The
Citizens Bank and stated that for this stock he had paid a price of
$55 per share.

He went on to say that he was interested in eight or

nine different businesses, that he did not have sons or sons-in-law
who could take charge of his business interests, and that therefore
he desired to liquidate some of his holdings in view of his age (73),
even though he was now in good health.

In this connection, he said

that over a period of two or three years representatives of Marine
Trust Company had spoken to him occasionally about the possible
Purchase of The Citizens Bank.
With reference to the characteristics of the town of Attica, Mr.
Haxton said that it is not on any direct route between principal cities,
that it is not a community exhibiting substantial growth, that the
Presence of a State prison gives the town some economic stability
because of the permanent payroll, but that there is not a great deal
of wealth in the town. There is a Westinghouse branch plant employing




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about 200 persons, he said, but otherwise Attica is primarily a farming
community.

In terms of bank deposits, he felt that the prospects for

growth were not comparable to those of certain other localities in the
area.

After noting that The Citizens Bank has deposits of about $3

million and that the local branch of Marine Trust Company has deposits
of about $4.3 million, he said it had been indicated to him that the
larger banking organizations are generally not particularly interested

in purchasing banks with less than $5 million of deposits. From the
standpoint of profits, he was satisfied that The Citizens Bank was
faring better than the branch of Marine Trust Company) but that was
Partly because the local bank was not offering comparable fringe benefits,
such as a pension plan, to its employees.

After explaining that he was

also a director of Central Trust Company of Rochester, he said that the
Rochester bank's payroll payments represent about 30 per cent of its
gross income, while similar payments by The Citizens Bank run about
20 per cent of a gross annual income of approximately $145,000.
Turning to the proposed sale of the bank, Mr. Haxton said that
although some profit would be made, the matter had not been approached
Primarily from that basis.

Rather, it had been an effort designed to

assure the availability of bnnking services that would be conservative
and safe for the depositor and the community.

He went on to say that

very seldom in a small community is there a man who has the inclination
and ability to carry forward the business of independent banking and
that to a degree a small bank such as The Citizens Bank is more or less
a personal enterprise.

In a large bank, however, it is easier to supply

needed personnel for a branch location.



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With reference to the map which he had distributed, Mr. Haxton
called attention to the substantial number of banking offices within
the 18-mile circle.

He said that conditions had changed considerably

as the result of the use of the automobile and that a party not satisfied
With banking services in Attica could easily go to a number of other
Places.

He had seen examples of this during his service with the Attica

bank and with a bank in the nearby community of Oakfield.

He also noted

that the majority of the banking outlets within the 18-mile circle are
Operated by independent interests.
Another important factor in deciding to sell the bank, Mr. Haxton
said, was that the officers and employees, including several with long
service, would be taken into the pension plan of Marine Trust Company on
a retroactive basis, which of course would cost the absorbing bank quite
a lot of money. For reasons of this kind, he felt that it was better
for employees and depositors, and also from the standpoint of the economics
of the banking business, to operate a bank with deposits of $7 million
rather than one with deposits of $3 or $4 million. While it was his
belief that The Citizens Bank could go along and make more money than
Marine Trust Companyls branch, it seemed to him that there would be a
real problem in finding persons to carry on the banking business when
the older stockholders dropped out.

In this connection, he mentioned

that Mr. E. M. Birch., holder of 581 shares, had been retired three or
four years and would like to convert his shareholdings into cash.




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-6In further comments, Mr. Haxton said that over the past three or

four years The Citizens Bank had come under some criticism from the banking
authorities because of its heavy portfolio of mortgages.
raised its rate to

6

The bank had

per cent while the Marine Trust Company branch

continued to offer mortgages at 5-1/2 per cent, which meant in effect
that The Citizens Bank had been trying to push mortgages away from itself.
At one time, he said, the State authorities had insisted on monthly reports
concerning the bank's liquidity.
Mr. Embt then made certain comments regarding the history of The
Citizens Bank in which he endeavored to bring out the difficulty in
attracting private funds and leadership into the banking business where
a small bank is concerned.

He doubted whether there were persons with

sufficient funds in the local community who could be induced to purchase
the institution.

As for himself, he said, he was not particularly

concerned about the outcome of the proposed absorption, for if it went
through he would probably use the money which he received to purchase
stock in the Marine Midland organization.

He was pleased, however, that

the officers of The Citizens Bank would be taken into Marine Trust
Company's organization and that he and another director had been invited
to serve on the local advisory board. In this connection) he understood
that arrangements were to be made whereby loans up to about 00,000
could be passed on locnlly as compared with the maximum authorization
of $5,000 now in effect for the local management of Marine Trust
Company's branch in Attica.




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Mr. Haxton commented that the contract for the sale of The
Citizens Bank expired December 31, 1957, but that the Marine Trust
Company interests had indicated that they would hold the offer open
if action could be taken reasonably soon.

He also noted that a meeting

of shareholders of The Citizens Bank was to be held this month and
said that he would appreciate it if the proposal could be presented
for action at that time.
Mr. Haxton then was asked whether, if the proposed absorption
did not go through, there might be a possibility of disposing of The
Citizens Bank in some other manner.

He replied by mentioning a dis-

cussion with an officer of the Manufacturers and Traders Trust Company
of Buffalo which indicated to him that that bank probably would not be
Particularly interested in acquiring a bank with deposits of less than

$5 million, especially where it was in direct local competition with
the branch of another large banking institution.

He had heard, inci-

dentally, that the Attica branch of Marine Trust Company "made only
about $10,000 a year", but he felt satisfied that the current proposal
would assure a profitable operation in Attica for that organization.
If the Marine Trust Company offer did not go through, he doUbted
Whether the bank could be sold unless parties in the city of Arcade might
be interested) for he did not feel that the other banks in Buffalo would
want to purchase the institution.




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Chairman Martin concluded the discussion by stating that the
Board appreciated having the views of Mr. Haxton and Mr. EMbt and that
it would give further consideration to the matter.
Messrs. Haxton and Embt then withdrew from the meeting.
Discount rates.

Unanimous approval was given to telegrams to

the following Federal Reserve Banks approving the establishment without
change by those Banks on the dates indicated of the rates on discounts
and advances in their existing schedules:
Boston
Atlanta
San Francisco
New York
Philadelphia
Minneapolis
St. Louis

December 30
December 30
December 30
January 2
January 2
January 2
January 3

At this point Mr. Shay, Legislative Counsel, entered the room.
Inquiry from Committee on Government Operations. There had been
distributed to the Board copies of a preliminary draft of letter to
Chairman Dawson of the House Committee on Government Operations in
: 1957, for certain information
response to his request of November 27
with respect to the Federal Reserve System's activities in the field
of research and development.
The Secretary stated that it had been hoped to have a final
draft of reply ready for this meeting but that it had not been possible
to finish the compilation of a complete response. The preliminary draft,
he said, had been distributed with the thought that the Board might wish
to discuss the general approach which had been taken therein, since there




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might be some question as to the type of reply which ought to be made
to an inquiry of this kind.

In this connection, he pointed out that

the Board had previously received a letter from the Committee requesting
information which seemed to relate to activities carried on with appropriated funds.

A reply was made which indicated that the request did

not appear to be applicable to the System's activities, and subsequently
the November 27 letter was received.
Chairman Martin expressed the view, in which the other members
of the Board concurred, that the proposed reply was genernlly appropriate.

Accordingly, it was agreed that a final draft of reply would

be distributed with a view to further consideration of the matter at a
meeting of the Board later this week.
Messrs. Riefler, Young, and Noyes rejoined the meeting at this

point and Messrs. Boothe, Administrator, Office of Defense Loans, and
Farrell, Assistant Director, Division of Bank Operations, also entered
the room.
Bill to regulate maximum interest rates on guaranteed loans
_Item No. 1).

At the meeting on December 10, 1957, the Board gave

consideration to a request from the Budget Bureau for a report on a
bill, apparently proposed by the Treasury, "to encourage the most effective
use of private credit under Federal loan guarantee and insurance programs",
but no action on the matter was taken. Subsequently, the Budget Bureau
renewed its request informally and there had been distributed again to




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the members of the Board copies of the memorandum from Mr. Solomon
dated December 6, 19572 which formed the basis for the earlier discussion.
Chairman Martin said that he had talked about the proposed bill
several times with Secretary of the Treasury Anderson, that he thought
the principal interest in it related to improving the flexibility of
maximum rates of interest on FHA and VA, mortgages, and that it would
seem inconsistent for the Board to be opposed to any measure designed
to achieve such a result.

As to the effect of the proposed bill on

the fixing of maximum interest rates on V-loans, he did not think that
the Treasury was too much interested one way or the other.

In general

terms, it was his opinion that the Treasury was right in what it was
trying to do.
Reference then was made to the position which had been taken

by Governor Vardaman, and the Secretary read the portion of the minutes
of the meeting on December 10, 1957, reflecting Governor Vardaman's
comments.
In further discussion of the matter, Governor Mills expressed
Preference, as he had during the discussion on December 10, 1957, for
the alternative reply suggested in Mr. Solomon's memorandum which would
state that the proposed bill would permit maximum rates of interest on
Government guaranteed or insured loans to be adjusted more nearly to
conditions in the open market, that the Board had indicated in the
Past that it would favor such arrangements, and that the Board therefore




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favored the proposed bill.

His only question, he said, related to the

fact that the bill itself apparently would extend to all loans guaranteed
or insured by any department or agency of the Federal Government, whereas
the suggested reply would refer specifically to facilitating adjustment
of the maximum rates of interest on FHA and VA mortgages.
Following a discussion of the point raised by Governor Mills,
it was agreed that the reply should be phrased in a manner which would
refer to the maximum rates of interest on all Government guaranteed or
insured loans.
Governor Robertson pointed out that the proposed bill would
constitute only a recommendation on which the Congress itself would have
to make a decision after studying the proposed legislation. From a theoretical standpoint, he felt that the position taken in the alternative
reply favored by Governor Mills was correct.
The discussion then reverted to the effect of such legislation
in relation to the fixing of rates under the V-loan program and Governor
Mills suggested that inasmuch as the Board's rate-fixing authority under
that program was now held by virtue of a delegation of power vested in
the President by statute, there might not be too great a distinction
between the situation at present and one under which rates would be
determined with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, an
official who is responsible to the President as a member of the Executive
Branch of the Government.




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-12Chairman Martin stated that this was another instance which

raised a question about how far the Board felt justified in going
In order to maintain itself in a position of special authority apart
from other agencies of the Government, following which Governor
Shepardson inquired whether it was felt there were any particular
advantages accruing to the Board from the current delegation of
authority in respect to the rates on V-loans.
In response, it was brought out that in practice the Board
had given consideration to the views of other interested parties
within the Government before taking action in this area; for example,
before deciding to increase the maximum permissible rate on V-loans
in May

1957.
At the conclusion of additional discussion, unanimous approval

was given to a letter to the Bureau of the Budget in the form attached
as Item No. 1.

The meeting then adjourned.




Secretary's Notes: Pursuant to the action
taken by the Board on December 20, 1957,
with respect to arrangements for a hearing
on the request of First Bank Stock Corporation
for determinations under section 4(0(6) of
the Bank Holding Company Act, there was sent
on January 3, 1958, to Mr. Ueland, Vice President and Counsel of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Minneapolis, a letter in the form attached
as Item No. 20 with a copy to President Deming
of the Minneapolis Reserve Bank.

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Governor Shepardson approved on behalf of
the Board, on the dates indicated, the
following items:
January

3

Memorandum dated December 27, 1957, from Mr. Noyes, Adviser,
Division of Research and Statistics, recommending an increase in
the basic annual salary of Virginia Johns from 113,925 to ,41 4,075,
effective January 12, 1958, with a change in title from ClerkStenographer to Secretary in that Division.
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia approving
the appointment of John Semanik as assistant examiner. A copy of
the letter is attached as Item No. 3.
Telegram to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis approving
the appointment of Sherwood D. Brekke as assistant examiner. A
copy of the telegram is attached as Item NO. 4.
January

6

Memorandum dated January 2, 1958, from Mr. Noyes, Adviser,
Division of Research and Statistics, recommending acceptance of the
resignation of Virginia Ogilvie, Secretary in the Division, effective
January 24, 1958.
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago approving the
designation of N. Edwin Demoney, Jr., as special assistant examiner.
A copy of the Iztter is attached as Item No. 5.
Letters to the Secretary of the Treasury and the Under Secretary
of Commerce concerning the forthcoming campaigns on behalf of the
National Health Agencies and the Joint Crusade, respectively. Copies
Of the letters are attached as Items 6 and 7.




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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 1

116/58

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

January 6, 1958

Mr. Roger W. Jones,
Assistant Director for
Legislative Reference,
Bureau of the Budget,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Jones:
This refers to your memorandum of December 4, 1957,
requesting the views of the Board of Governors on a proposed
bill "To encourage the most effective use of private credit
under Federal loan guarantee and insurance programs." The
Proposed bill would provide that:
"notwithstanding any other provision of law, the maximum interest rates on loans guaranteed, insured, or
otherwise underwritten by any department or agency of
the Federal Government shall be determined by the head
of each agency with the approval of the Secretary of
the Treasury."
It appears that the proposed bill would facilitate
the adjustment of the maximum rates of interest on U. S.
Government guaranteed or insured loans to changes which may
occur from time to time in the rates of interest prevailing
in the open market on similar investments. As the Board has
indicated in other connections, it believes that this would
be a desirable result. Accordingly, the Board favors enactment of the proposed legislation.




Very truly==;y6Tirs

S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 2
1/6/58

ADDRESS OFFICIAL COP/RESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

AIR EAIL

January

3, 1958

Sigurd Ueland,
Vice President and Counsel,
federal aeserve Bank of Minneapolis,
Minneapolis 2, Minnesota.
Dear Mr. Ueiand:
In re Hearing on Request of First Bank Stock Corporation
for Determinations Under Section 4(c)(6) of Bank Holding
Company Act
Reference is made to telephone conversations previously had
1-T1 connection with the above-eatitied procedure, as a result of which
11 was understood that you would appear at said hearing in the capacit:/
01 Board Counsel, with the assistance in this regard of Mr. Maurice H.
Strothman, Jr. Pursuant to the above-mentioned preliminary discussion,
You are hereby authorized to act as Board Counsel in this proceeding
and to utilize the services of Mr. Strothman to assist you in this
matter.
As you were earlier advised, Yr. Arthur Leff has been assigned
as Hearinc; Examiner to conduct this proceeding. A certification of
thO assi!;nment is enclosed.
You are further advised that pursuant to Rule III of the
Board's Rules of Practice for Formal Hearings, your authorization to
aCt as Board Counsel during the course of the First Dank Stock Corporahearing include the authority to designate any member of the
,sLaff of the Federal Reserve Dank of Ylinneapolis or any other Federal
,
1e8erve Bank to a:lsi.st you during the hearing, as well as authority tc
nate those persons having sufficient official interest in Uae
Proceedings to warrant their attendance.
Your assistance in the matter of this bearing is greatly
appreciated.

L
inclosure




S. 11. Carpenter,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 3

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WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS orriciAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

January 3, 1958

Mr. E. C. Hill, Vice President,
Fbderal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
Philadelphia 10 Pennsylvania.
Dear Mr. Hill:
In accordance with the request contained in
your letter of December 300 1957, the Board approves the
appointment of John Semanik as an assistant examiner for
the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia. Please advise
a3 to the date on which the appointment is made effective.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

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Item No. 4
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TELEGRAM
LEASED WIRE SERVICE

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

January 3, 1958

DEMING - MINNEAPOLIS
Reurlet January 2, 1.958, Board approves appointment of Sherwood D. Br kke
as assistant examiner for Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. Please
advise as to date appointment made effective.
(Signed) Merritt Sherman




SHERMAN

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
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Item No. 5

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WASHINGTON 25. O. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL, CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE SOARD

*kop.0*

January 60 1958

Mr. W. R. Diercks, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
Chicago 90, Illinois.
Dear Mr. Diercks:
In accordance with the request contained in
Your letter of December 31, 1957, the Board approves
the designation of N. Edwin Demoney, Jr. as a special
assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank of
Chicago. Please advise as to the date on which the
designation is made effective.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

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Item No. 6

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WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE HOARD

0
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January 6, 1958

Dear Mr. Secretary:
This refers to your letter of December 17, 1957,
concerning the coming Campaign on behalf of the National
Health Agencies.
I have designated Miss June E. Ayers, Administrative
Assistant, Division of Personnel Administration, to serve as
Chairman of the Campaign at the Board. A copy of my official
message will be forwarded to you at a later date.
You may be assured that the Board will give its
full cooperation and that all Board employees will have
every opportunity to make voluntary contributions to the
agencies of their choice.
Sincerely yours,

(Signed) Wm. McC. Martin
WM. McC. Martin, Jr.

The Honorable Robert B. Anderson,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington 25, D. C.




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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item 110. 7

1/6/53

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

January

6, 1958

Dear fir. Tilliams:
This refers to your letter of December 17, 1957,
concerning the coming Campaign on behalf of the Joint
Crusade agencies.
have designated Miss June E. Ayers, iiiiiinistrative
Assistant, Division of Personnel Administration, to serve as
Chairman of the Campaign at the Board. A copy of my official
message will be forwarded to you at a later date.
You may be assured that the Board will give its
full cooperation and that all Board employees will have
every opportunity to make voluntary contributions to the
agencies of their choice.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Tim. VcCo Martin, Jr.

17m. EcC. Martin, Jr.

The Honorable Walter Williams,
Under Secretary of Commerce,
Washington 25, D. C.