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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System wa.s
held in Washington on Tuesday, January 30, 1945, at 2:30

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
There was presented a memorandum dated January 20, 1945, from
Chairman Eccles
stating that the resignation of Mr. Clayton, Assistant
t° the
Chairman, would necessitate some rearrangement of the work in the
Chairman's

office, that he was not prepared at this time to rem wend

the a
PPointment of another assistant, but that he would recommend that
the r°1-1-0wing changes
be made effective February 1, 1945:

1,

2.

That the title of Elliott Thurston be changed from
Special Assistant to the Chairman to Assistant to
the Chairman and that his salary be increased from
In.4,000 to $15,000 per annum.
That the salary of Madeleine E. Benton, secretary
to mr.
Thurston be increased from $2,800 to $3,000
Per annum.

3. P:lat
Mabel Goepfert be retransferred to the Legal
Division as a secretary with no change in her pres—
ent salary
at the rate of $2,600 per annum.

4.. yhat
the payroll designation of Charles R. Norris

a
be changed from messenger to the Chairman to clerk
nd that his
salary be increased from $1,800 to
ft,980 per annum.
The changes recommended by Chairman
Eccles were approved unanimously, together




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with a change in the payroll designation
of Sidney ':ashington from messenger to
clerk and the following changes in sal—
aries in the Board Members Section, ef—
fective February 1, 1945:

Lame
AnzTe*
I. Cotten
Sidney
Washington

Designation
Secretary to Mr. Ransom
Clerk

Salary Increase
To
From
$3,800
$3,600
1,680
1,560

In a memorandum dated December 14, 1944, Mr. Goldenweiser
l'econtnended that his title be changed from Director of the Division
of
Research and Statistics
to Economic Adviser, that Ildr. Woodlief
Mcdilas be
made Director of th e Division of Re3earch and Statistics,
al4d that
Mr. Howard S.
Ellis be appointed as Assistant Director of
the Division with
salary at the rate of 410,000 per annum. In ac—
%Nance with
a suggestion made by Chairman Eccles in a memorandum
Qated
December 16,
1944) action on these recommendations had been
cleferred until
after the first of the year to afford the Board
r4nlbers an
th Mr. Ellis'
opportunity f.0
amiliarize themselves with
-anfamiliarize
b4ekground and
recoltinen

ability,

at this meeting of the Board the

dations were
presented by Chairman Eccles for further

%Ilqderatio
n.
The following actions ;ere taken
by unanimous vote effective February
1, 1945:
1;11r.,,G
oldenweiser's title was changed from Director
tconomic Advisor with no cnraage in his present
8alarY at the rate of 15,000 per annum.
Mr. Thomas was
appointed Director of the Division




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of Research and Statistics with salary at the rate
of $15,000 per annum.

3. Mr.
Howard S. Ellis was appointed Assistant Director
of the Division of Research and Statistics with basic
salary at the rate of )10,000 per annum.
Chairman Eccles stated that he wished to discontinue his ex—
°Irrici° membership on the Personnel Committee of the Board and sug—
gested that
in the future the committee consist of the two members
aPPointed
by the Board in accordance with the existing plan of ro—
tation.

There was unanimous agreement with
this suggestion, and it was understood
that beginning immediately Messrs. Ransom
and Evans (the present appointed members)
would constitute the committee until the
expiration on February 28, 1945, of the
period for which they were appointed.
In accordance with the usual order
of rotation, it was understood that Messrs.
Szymczak and Evans would be nominated to
serve with Chairman Eccles as members of
the executive committee of the Federal Open
Market Committee for the year beginning
March 1, 1945, and accordingly Messrs.
WIcee and Draper were appointed to serve
as members of the Board's Personnel Commit—
tee for the year beginning March 1, 1945.
Chairman Eccles then stated that, in view of the resignation
or kr. 0
tee, he

laYton Who had served as his alternate on the Wea. Loans Commit—
w°111d suggest that the committee be abolished and that the

-- Previously performed by the committee be added to the matters
to mr.




Draper for initial consideration as a member of the

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—4Chairman Eccles' recommendation was
approved unanimously, effective immediately,
With the understanding (1) that, as in other
matters assigned to Mr. Draper for initial
consideration, Mr. Evans would serve as Mr.
Draper's alternate in the latter's absence
or disability, and (2) that war loans matters
requiring consideration by the Board would
be handled in the same manner as other matters requiring Board consideration.
The positions of Counsel and Secretary
to the War Loans Committee were abolished
and the titles of Administrator for War Loans
Committee held by Mr. Smead and Assistant
Administrator for War Loans Committee held
by Mr. Boothe were changed to Administrator
for War Loans and Assistant Administrator
for War Loans, respectively.
Chairman Eccles made a report to the Board in regard to a

e0
4terence which he had attended at the Treasury Department this morntrig 0
n the
subject of proposed holding company legislation. The subof his
report was as follows:
trig Preceding the conference at the Treasury this morn, a number of bankers called upon Mr. McKee in regard
_the status
of holding company legislation and Mr. McKee
erred them to Congressman Patman. It seems that ConHoessman Patman took them to see Chairman Spence, of the
ch e Banking and Currency Committee, and that they told
Thflnan SPence that they had been to see Mr. McKee.
is21Y advised
Chairman Spence as to their viewpoint regardding
company
legislation and Chairman Spence said
h°1
Reat he
was willing to introduce a bill if the Federal
Re
rve Were to ask him to do so. Thereupon he called
' Apparently Chairman Spence was not aware of
the
alicl McKee
contents
of our Annual Report for 1938 on this subject
por241% McKee sent him a marked copy. Mr. McKee then reabi ?d to me what had developed. I questioned the advis‘
- 1tY of our participation in handling the matter in

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the way
suggested by Chairman Spence. I doubted whether
lt was desirable to ask him to introduce the bill or to
!end the bill to him for introduction because he might
l'hen say that it was being introduced at the request of
'dile Federal Reserve Board and this might not be the most
?ffective way of getting action upon it. After discussing
the matter
with Mr. McKee and considering alternative
Irthods
of handling the matter, we decided it would be
Ae
tst for me to discuss the situation with the Treasury.
our request, Mr. Dreibelbis worked up a memorandum on
fle "Giannini Empire", a copy of which has been placed
fl the
Board's files. I talked to Under Secretary Bell
last
Week and told him that I wished to discuss the matter with
the Secretary. Mr. Bell arranged a conference
',or this
morning at 11:00 o'clock. In addition to the
?retary, there were present Mr. Bell, Comptroller
ietano, and an attorney from the Comptroller's Office.
c tdolld the
Secretary what had happened and that I had
at we would have to send some kind of a letthat
ter
Spence enclosing a draft of a bill which
he
t_might introduce. I then gave the Secretary the pice of the situation as outlined in Mr. Dreibelbis'
-ellic3randurn.

i7

The conference lasted about 40 minutes and the Secre,6
thears
very interested and very attentive throughout
1, c°nference. The Secretary said that he would like a
-LT,tle time
enable
him for his staff to study the situation and to
to consider the matter, as he did not want to
gi
ve:an answer today. He said, however, that he would let
in another day or two, and I understood definitely
that
1!0eltly
hear from him before the end of this week.
The Se
said that he was very much impressed with
th: nt°rmation which I had given him and was very sympawe—
+le with our position. I pointed out to him that if
get the
mandeant b• legislation introduced, it would show that we
so far as the Administration was concerned
would be at least a deterrent to Giannini.
star Ur. Bell raised the question whether the Treasury
all f had seen the bill and I told him that they had been
°ver it with Mr. Dreibelbis.
.kuee14.r. Delano asked whether there had been any changes
'
-ast June and I told him it was the same bill. He




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whether it was the one that Dreibelbis had gone
rer with them and I told him that was the case. The attorney from Mr. Delano's office said that he had been over
lt.
I told the group briefly what the bill contained.
Bell said that one difficulty with the bill might be
th?.t it was
obviously directed against one group, but I
11,301nted out that if it were not for this one concern there
be no occasion for raising the issue now and that
the power
of the Government had not been challenged except by this
one group.
.The Secretary asked what the Securities and Exchange
J)111mission had been able to do and I told him that the
1iTcurities and Exchange Commission was still stymied in
.
11e Courts and that, if the Securities and Exchange Comlilulsclon should win out, all that they would accomplish
8°1;Ild be the delisting of the stock of Transamerica: I
4ald that
nothing short of legislation is really going
'° get at the heart
of the problem.
a , Mr- Bell then pointed out that the bill did not have
Lleath sentence
in it. I told him that that was true because
if we attempted to put a death penalty into the
i'LL! we would not get the legislation. It would result
aLllning up all the holding companies on Giannini's side
Ift-o uniting all the opposition, with the result that we
have a big fight that nobody would like. I pointed
;
1,
.
1t that
the problem was not so much one of obtaining a
stss°111tion of the holding company set-up as it was to
:
13 them from getting control of banks through the hold&tic
ac
OmPanY device when it would not be permitted if the
'
co
cltion of such banks as branches were subject to the
nsent of the
Comptroller or the consent of the Board.
e.
j)co
pointed out that Giannini had obtained 21 banks in
Am4-el°rn1a which were operating outside of the Bank of
because he has not been permitted to convert them
oranches. I said that if we succeeded in getting
pell*,? legislation through and then, after we had had exthj
.cnce with it, if it did not turn out to be adequate,
sen.t̀: would be the
time to introduce a bill with a death
pr,ence, but I did not think that this was the time to
-Pose such
a bill.




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Mr. Bell referred to the fact that in 1943 consider—
had
and that the
Secretary been given to proposed legislation
had made the statement that he was not in favor
jcq" doing anything about it until it had been cleared with
°?s President. I pointed out that a great deal had happened
.sta.n?e then, which
had undoubtedly changed the situation ma—
terlallY, and Mr. Bell said that he agreed. I felt ex—
encouraged by the attitude shown by the Secretary
oughout the conference.
The action
stated with respect to each of the matters herein—
referred
to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal
44184.

Reserve System held on January 29, 1945, were approved unani—

Memorandum dated January 26, 1945, from Mr. Pollard, Assistant

1)4ect°r

of the
Division of Examinations, recommending that Miss Helene
1,r,ea
Ille7 be
reappointed as a clerk—stenographer in that Division,
th basic
salary at the rate of $2,100 per annum, effective as of the
date
Pon vihich she
enters upon the performance of her duties after
haltinn.

Passed
satisfactorily the usual physical examination. The mem—
(41q1d—__
'411 stated that
Miss Kearney had not withdrawn her funds from the
Padel,al
6

Reserve retirement system and would continue to be a member of
that systEm4

Approved unanimously.

elter

Mealorandum dated January 29, 1945, from Mr. Parry, Director
i
vlsion of Security Loans, recommending that Mrs. Louise

tOn,
Secretary




to Mr. Parry, be granted leave without pay for

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of not to exceed six months, beginning February 16, 1945/
understanding, concurred in by the Division of Research and

Statistics, that upon her return she will be reassigned to a position
illths
'
t Division.

Mrs. Leverton is a member of the Board of Governors

til'enlent plan with death benefit insurance, and the memorandum
l'ee°1111nended that the Board authorize continuation of her death benefit
irisllratice for the period of her leave without pay provided she makes
81)
Pror.,-*

v.vlate contributions therefor.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Peterson, Vice President of the Federal Reserve

11,111t or r,

t. Louis,
reading as follows:

"In accordance with the request contained in your
l
ett
Doir,er
of January 24, 1945, the Board approves the ap—
of Burnette A. Wagner as an assistant examiner
Or
'ae
Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Please advise
or
Ne,,the
date
upon
which the appointment becomes effec—
o .

Approved unanimously.

NA

Let
ter to Mr. Logan, Vice President and General Counsel of the
Reserve Bank of New York, reading as follows:
194c "This is to
thank you for your letter of January 24,
colg advising us that in view of the settlement of the
aricivergy between the Marine Trust Company of Buffalo
Hellings, representing the heirs of Robert J.
exanilt°113 deceased, the motion for leave to inspect the
vithpation reports of the Marine Trust Company has been
te,2
.vin
4ra
and the matter closed without any judicial ae—
ezZ-nation of the question as to whether the reports of
ItI.t,,tion might be inspected by the special guardian.
Rs stated in your letter, Mr. Babcock of the firm




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"_.
vl Babcock, Hollister, Newbury and Russ, was retained
t° represent the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and
Board in the above—mentioned matter, and Mr. Babcock
th
he
ras presented his bill amounting to 1,')1,533.26 for pro—
disbursements. The Board approves
tielesi°nal services and
e PaYment of this fee and disbursements by your Bank."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Williams, Chairman, Presidents' Conference Com-

v4ittee 0
n Research and Statistics, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
readi,

-44'g as follows:
"We have received from Mr. Sienkiewicz copies of
hue mlnutes of the meeting of the Presidents' Conference
,.eld on December 8-9, 1944 and have noted the action
record
on pages 18-19 with respect to recommendations
the System Research Advisory Committee.
the"In accordance with the understanding reached during
discussions which have taken place on this subject, the
ste
Research Advisory Committee will send copies of its
c c°mInendations to the Research Committee of the Presidents'
rarTence and if at any time the Presidents' Research Com2tee has any question or suggestions regarding these rec—
t
0rnd
ations that it would like to discuss with the Board,
tie Ijcard would be pleased to be advised and to defer ac—
mir upon
any such recommendation until the Research Corn—
Confertee has had an opportunity to present its views or to
with the Board regarding them."
Approved unanimously.
Letter

eralls

to Brigadier General Frank T. Hines, Administrator, Vet—
.
`ctdral
nistration, reading as follows:

41 A8 You know, last fall the Board offered informally
to :
sr=ans Administration the cooperation of the Fed—
!
1,ail‘
Serve System in connection with the administration
erthe S
ervicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, and the
vices of the Reserve Banks have been utilized in the




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"distribution to commercial banks of sample copies of
regulations and forms. The Reserve Banks have also, up(
.
)n request of the Veterans Administration, made certain
ni regarding procedure available to all banking
s rMtrs.
1111fZi
"It is understood that sample copies of the three
regulations have now been distributed by the Federal Reserve Banks; that the distribution of all sample forms
relating to the guaranty of home loans has been completed;
the Reserve Banks have completed the distribution
which is now under way, of the following sample
°Illas relating to the guaranty of farm loans and to the
.8
j,laranty of business loans, the distribution of any addi°nal forms, handbooks, etc., that may be printed from
to time will be made through the field offices of
Veterans Administration or channels other than the
Reserve Banks.
Guaranty of Business Loans
Loans
Forms: 1821
Forms: 1841
1842
1822
1842a
1822a
1824

j

88
84F
1845
We"
-“8-1-1. be glad to be advised whether our understanding is
correct.
er "We hope that we have been of some service to the Vetsee'tle Administration in arranging through the Federal Relwr_Ye Banks for the distribution of sample copies of reguulons and forms."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

4131)
1tveci:




Chairman.