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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem 'was held in Washington on Wednesday, January 22, 1941, at 11:15

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

Chairman Eccles read a letter addressed to him under date of
tr

atILlary

22, 1941, by Lauchlin Currie

Administrative Assistant to the

President, in which it was stated that Mr. Currie had been invited by
the Chinese Government to visit China and to consult with it regarding

the general economic situation there; that it was anticipated that Mr.
re would return early in March; that he would like to have Emile
8Pres, senior economist in the Board's Division of Research and Stati8tieS, accompany him as an assistant; that Mr. Despres would also be
a

guest of the Chinese Government; and that it would be appreciated if

the

Board would grant him a leave of absence for approximately six

Weeks for this purpose.

The letter also requested that the matter be

treated as confidential until announcement thereof was made to the
Press.
Mr. McKee inquired as to the responsibility of the Board in

the matter because of the possible danger of the trip and Chairman
eeles stated that Mr. Despres was anxious to go and would elect to




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g° in the event the Board would grant him the necessary leave of absence and that inasmuch as the decision would be his, it did not apPear the Board would have any responsibility from the standpoint of
14r. Desprest personal safety while on the trip.

Mr. McKee suggested

that, in the circumstances, a written request be obtained from Mr.
DesPres that he be granted the necessary leave of absence for the
tril"

Question was also raised whether the Board would be expected

t° Pay Mr. Desprest salary during his absence, and Chairman Eccles
stated

that the leave of absence should be approved on the same basis

48 that arranged in connection with the absence of Mr. Currie.
After a brief discussion, the matter
was referred to Chairman Eccles with power
to act.
There was then read a letter dated January 18, 1941, from Mr.
Caldwell, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, stating
that at the meeting of the board of directors on January 16, 1941, a
coMMittee of directors was appointed to confer with the Board of Gov"11°rs with respect to the selection of a successor to Mr. Hamilton
as President of the Kansas City Bank and that, if agreeable, the comMittee would come to Washington on Monday, January 27, 1941, for that
Pltrpose.




Some of the members of the Board indicated that it would be more convenient
for them if the meeting with the committee
could be held on Tuesday, January 28, and
Mr. Morrill was requested to wire Mr.
Caldwell to ascertain whether the committee's plans could be arranged to meet with
the Board on January 28, 1941, at 11:00 a.m.

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-3Chairman Eccles stated that under date of January 16, 1941, he

received from President Roosevelt a note appended to a copy of a letter
addressed to the President under date of January 3, 1941, by Mr. Morgenthau,
bill

Secretary of the Treasury, referring to the bank holding company

which was subsequently introduced in the Senate by Senator Glass

48 bill S-310, and suggesting the text of a statement on the subject

bank holding company legislation for inclusion in the President's
14essa5
epe to Congress.

The note from President Roosevelt, which was also

sent to the Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Crowley as Chairman of the
Pederal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Mr. Delano as Comptroller of

the Currency, as well as to Mr. Eccles as Chairman of the Board of Gov"ors

requested that the four agencies named work together in formulat-

ing a
program.
Chairman Eccles also stated that in response to a request from
Sec
'
l etary Morgenthau, which

had been prompted by the note from the

'
Pl esident, he (Chairman Eccles) went to the Treasury yesterday afternoon
to attend a meeting at which there were also present Mr. Morgenthau;
141's Crowley; Mr. Delano; Mr. Bell, Undersecretary of the Treasury; Mr.
Poi
eY, General Counsel of the Treasury; and another attorney. The Secre17

opened the meeting, Chairman Eccles said, by referring to the note

tl'°a the President and to the conferences which were held in March, 1938,
r(31
'the purpose of drafting a statement on the subject of bank holding
ecIsPanY legislation for inclusion in a message which was delivered by
the
President to Congress under date of April 29, 1938, and by stating
that

What the Treasury had done in suggesting to Senator Glass the




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introduction
of a new bank holding company bill was to pick up the
Program contemplated in the statement which had been prepared for the
President's message.

Chairman Eccles added that his reply to the Sec-

IletarYt s statement was that he had received only shortly before the
nieeting a folder from Mr. Delano in connection with the 1938 conferences and that the folder did not contain all of the record of the
conferences or of what had taken place in connection with the consideration of the matter at the time.
During Mr. Eccles' statement of what occurred at the meeting
at the Treasury yesterday, comments were made by him and Mr. Ransom
Ilith respect to their recollections of what occurred at the conferences
in 1938, and, in connection with a statement by Chairman Eccles that
the

Secretary had taken the position yesterday that the Board was com-

Mitted to the program outlined in the draft of statement prepared in
1938 for the President's message to Congress, Mr. Ransom stated that
he had made it clear at these 1938 conferences, which he attended with
8taff members but without any other member of the Board, that the p0taken by him at that time was his own and that he had had no
°PPortunity to submit the matter to the Board for decision, that he
e3cP1ained at the time to the other members of the Interdepartmental
C°Mmittee that there was not a quorum of the Board in Washington but
that

he had discussed the matter with the members of the Board who were

in 17ashington and by long distance telephone with members of the Board
1111° Were out of town and that he had to the best of his ability kept




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th
enftbers of the Board advised as to progress in these discussions.
14'e Ransom stated that, so far as he was personally concerned, he could
not take any position regarding the problems involved that was in conrliet with the recommendations

made to the President but pointed out

that there were substantial differences in the then pending legislation
on the subject and in the new bill that had recently been introduced in
CcIngress and that the recommendations did not cover all of the matters
included in the legislation in question. Mr. Ransom stated that during
the discussions in March 1938 he had called attention to his belief
that should the President determine to use the language recommended,
the

question of branch banking would enter the discussions when the

matter was considered by Congress.
Chairman Eccles said that at the meeting yesterday he stated
thai.
k. there had been no action by the Board in connection with the 1938
e°11fsrences but that subsequently thereto the Board, recognizing the
lieed of bank holding company legislation, had developed the substance

Or

a bill which it felt would meet the situation adequately, that the

13°al'd, which had had responsibility for the supervision of bank holding
anies for the last seven years, had not been consulted in connecc(IN)
t&
°4 with the drafting of the new legislation which had been suggested
bY the Treasury to Senator Glass and introduced by him and which pro—
to place the authority for bank holding company supervision in
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, that the Board did not favor




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the bill and could
not be expected to approve it but that, in accordezce with the request of the President, the Board was willing to participate in the formulation of a program of legislation which might
be made acceptable to the Federal banking supervisory agencies.

He

Bald that he also
stated that the situation had changed materially
Sinee the 1938 conferences and any position that might have been taken

then should not be regarded as a commitment at the present time, and
that it did not appear from the President's note that he was familiar
With the circumstances in which the Glass bill had been prepared and
slIbmitted to the Senate but that he expected the four agencies named
in the note to formulate an acceptable program.
In response to his statement, Chairman Eccles said, Secretary
Llergenthau said that he was responsible for the drafting and submission
°f the legislation introduced by Senator Glass and any criticism with
l'esPect to the way it was handled should be addressed to him, and he
inquired why if the Board had felt that legislation was desirable it
had not taken the initiative in proposing legislation. Chairman Eccles
said
he replied that it had been understood there was to be no piecebanking legislation and for that reason the Board had not made a
r'ecommendation but that if hearings had been held on the matter the
/3°11rd would have stated its position.
Chairman Eccles made the further statement that at the concluof the discussion at the Treasury Mr. Morgenthau said he was under
the

necessity of making some kind of report to the President and he




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-7would like to know whether the Board would be willing to advise the
Tren
-surY what objections it had to the Glass bill.

Chairman Eccles

said he replied that, so far as he was concerned, he would be willing
to have prepared a statement setting forth the Board's objections to
the bill
and offering an alternative program, but that the preparation
f such a statement would require some time.

The Secretary then stated,

Chadrman
Eccles said, that the Board should take all the time it desired for the
purpose.
There ensued a discussion by the members of the Board of what
te

Position should be in the circumstances and during the discussion

the statement was made that a formal request was received from Senator
Wagner under date of January 15, 1941, for a report on the Glass bill.
Chairman Eccles suggested that the Legal Division be requested to prePare) in consultation with the Division of Examinations, a letter to

the Secretary of the Treasury which would contain a statement with re8Pect to the Glass bill in the form in which the Board would report
On the bill
in response to the request received from Senator Wagner
411(1 which would set forth the reasons why the Board would not favor
the
bill as well as a suggested alternative program as one which the
13°ard believed would be effective in meeting the situation in the pub11 •
c Interest. The letter to the Secretary would also state, Chairman
eelee said, that the Board would be willing to cooperate with the
Trea
surY, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the Comptroller

t the Currency in undertaking to work out an acceptable legislative




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Pr°grani with respect to bank holding companies.
Chairman Eccles' suggestion was approved unanimously.
Chairman Eccles also stated that he proposed to send a brief
Memorandum to the President, in response to his note, stating that
the Board would be pleased to cooperate in working out a program and

also cauJ
1,a.ng
attention to the fact that the Glass bill had been prePared and submitted without consultation with the Board, notwithstanding that it had been charged with the responsibility of administering

bank 110J...ding
Icompany legislation for over seven years, and that the
13°al
'
d was preparing a statement of reasons why it did not favor the
G1a,
'
8 'pill as well as a program which the Board believed would meet
the situation in a more realistic manner.
Mr. Morrill presented a letter dated January 18, 1941, which
had.
JUst been received from Senator Wagner requesting a report on
Sen
ate Bill 390 which was introduced by Senator Wagner on January 16,

-94I, at the request of the Board and which related to the subject of
for^z

accounts with Federal Reserve Banks and insured banks in the

United States.
At the suggestion of Mr. Ransom,
Counsel's Office was requested to prepare a draft of report on the bill for
consideration by the Board.
The action stated with respect to each of the matters herein-

after

referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the




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Federal Reserve System held on January 21, 1941, were approved unanipiously.
Letter to Mr. Young, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Boston, reading as follows:
"Referring to your letter of January 8, 1941, it
is noted that at a meeting of the board of directors of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston held on that date all
Officers of your Bank, with the exception of the President and First Vice President, were reappointed to serve
during the year 1941.
"In accordance with the further action taken by
Your board of directors, the Board of Governors approves
Payment of a retaining fee, at the rate of 2,400 per
annum, to Mr. Phillips Ketchum, who was reappointed
Associate Counsel for the year 1941.
"The Board of Governors also approves the reappointment of Messrs. Winthrop L. Carter) Albert M. Creighton,
Carl P. Dennett, Paul A. Draper and Edward M. Graham as
members of the Industrial Advisory Committee for the
First Federal Reserve District, to serve for terms of
one year each, beginning on March 1, 1941.
"It is noted that no action was taken in regard to
the selection of the member of the Federal Advisory Council to represent your District, and that further consideration was deferred until the next meeting of your board.
"It is also noted that Mr. William D. McRae was reappointed as Chief Examiner for the year ending December
31) 1941. As the position of Chief Examiner is provided
for in the personnel classification plan of your Bank, it
is assumed that Mr. McRae will be included in the list of
employees of the Bank to be submitted to the Board as of
January 1, 1941.
"You will be advised in a separate communication
with respect to the action taken by the Board of Governors in connection with the reappointment of Mr. Roy A.
Young and Mr. William W. Paddock, as President and First
Vice President, respectively, of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Boston for a term of five years each, beginning March
1, 1941."




Approved unanimously.

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-10Letter to Mr. Brainard, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank

O1 C
leveland, reading as follows:
"Acknowledgment is made with thanks of your letter
of January 10, advising that at an informal discussion
at your Board meeting on January 9 the unanimous conclusion was reached to request the Board of Governors to reappoint Mr. M. J. Fleming as President and Mr. Frank J.
Zurlinden as First Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Cleveland for a period of five years, commencing
March 1, 1941.
"You state that formal action on these appointments
.
Will be taken at the regular meeting on February 27, 1941,
but that the recommendations are submitted to the Board at
this early date in order that it may have an opportunity
to consider a reply to your recommendation.
"Your letter will be considered by the Board at the
earliest opportunity and I will advise you as soon as possible."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Fletcher, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Bank
of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has considered the recommendation of the Executive
Committee of your bank, contained in your letter of January 11, 1941, and, pursuant to the provisions of Section
19 of the Federal Reserve Act, grants permission to 'The
Fifth Avenue Savings Bank Company', Columbus, Ohio, to
maintain the same reserves against deposits as are required to be maintained by banks located outside of central reserve and reserve cities, effective with the first
semi-monthly reserve computation period beginning after
the date of this letter.
"Please advise the member bank of the Board's action in this matter, calling its attention to the fact
that such permission is subject to revocation at any
time by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System."




Approved unanimously.




Thereupon the meeting adjourned.