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Minutes for January 18, 1957. To: Members of the Board From: Office of the Secretary Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the above date. It is not proposed to include a statement with respect to any of the entries in this set of minutes in the record of policy actions required to be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act. Should you have any question with regard to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, if you were present at the meeting, please initial in column A below to indicate that you approve the minutes. If you were not present, please initial in column B below to indicate that you have seen the minutes. Chm. Martin Gov. Szymczak If Gov. Vardaman Gov. Mills Gov. Robertson Gov. Balderston V )\\ x CvC-13 Gw. Shepardson x0 4/0 9 11,e — attathed aceord set of minutes was sent to Governor Vardainant s office in anee With the procedure approved at the meeting of the Board on Noireither 29, 1 955. The set was returned by Governor Vardaman's office 'With that bthe statement (see Mr. Kenyon's memorandum of February 12, 1957) liz laia4rteahertBeord rGovernor Varda.man would not initial any minutes of meetat which he was not present. Therefore, with Governor yard :7 10 ,s n 'irdtia s appri. ova1, these minutes are being filed without Governor 125 Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Sy3tem on Friday, January 18, 1957. the The Board met in Board Room at 9:30 a.m. PRESENT: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Martin, Chairman Balderston, Vice Chairman Szymczak Mills Robertson Shepardson Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Carpenter, Secretary Sherman, Assistant Secretary Kenyon, Assistant Secretary Vest, General Counsel Sloan, Director, Division of Examinations Hackley, Associate General Counsel Hexter, Assistant General Counsel O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel Thompson, Supervisory Review Examiner, Division of Examinations The following matters, which had been circulated to the members °I' the Board, were presented for consideration and the action taken in ecich instance was as stated: Letter to Mr. Mangels, President, Federal Reserve Bank of San PrAh --eisco, reading as follows: This refers to your letter of December 4 suggesting a mo„-1. fication of the Board's instructions as set forth in its : 0 t"ter of October 29, 1934 (FRLS 5865), regarding issuance Fl e Federal Reserve notes. The instructions provide that no Federalderal Reserve notes should be issued at the branches by all Reserve Agents' Representatives except upon specific Asth°ritY, in each case, of the Federal Reserve Agent or the stsistant Federal Reserve Agent. You suggest that the inbv11:,!tic3ns be modified to provide for blanket authorization Federal Reserve Agent for the issue by his repre, n'atives at the branches of Federal Reserve notes up to ; P eoercified limits calculated to accommodate the usual day-to'needs of the respective branches. The proposed procedure 1/18/57 -2- contemplates that the calculation of required collateral Pledged with the Federal Reserve Agent would include a mandatory margin in the amount of the blanket authorizations. The Board recognizes that the suggested change might Pe:mit a somewhat more convenient procedure. The Board feels, nowever, that in view of the specific requirements of the Federal Reserve Act with respect to the issuance of Federal Renotes and the pledge of collateral thereto, it would not be desirable to authorize the suggested modification. Approved unanimously. Brorla Letter to the Board of Directors, Norfolk County Trust Company, Ina: Massachusetts, reading as follows: The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System c Ek.PPr°ves the establishment of a branch by Norfolk County Trust mT4PanY, Brookline, Massachusetts, at 693 High Street, Westwood, ;L 7,tesachusetts, as a successor to the branch now located at 938 gh Street, provided approval of the State authorities is obed and the branch is established within six months from ue date O. this letter. Z Approved unanimously, for transmittal through the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. _etter to the Board of Directors, Citizens Bank of Hattiesburg, RattiesbL g, Mississippi, reading as follows: ReR Nrauant to your request submitted through the Federal er:.?rve Bank of Atlanta, the Board of Governors of the Fedci ; -1- Reserve System approves the establishment of a branch by 1a Bank of Hattiesburg, Mississippi, in the vicinity of the in tersection of 28th Avenue and Hardy Street in the city of . eab urg,provided formal approval of the appropriate State :1:tnorities is obtained and the branch is established within months from the date of this letter. Approved unanimously, for transmittal through the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. 1/18/57 St. Lo Letter to Mr. Kroner, Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of 148, reading as follows: Reference is made to your letter of January 4, 1957, recommending that the Board approve, under the provisions ?f Section 24A of the Federal Reserve Act, an additional _-_livestment of $5,000 in bank premises by the Webster Groves Trust Company, Webster Groves, Missouri. After considering all available information, the Board °f Governors concurs in the Reserve Bankts recommendation and approves this additional investment of $5,000 in banking emises by Webster Groves Trust Company, Webster Groves, ,i8souri. It is assumed that the bank will continue a sat.LsfactorY program of depreciating fixed assets. v Approved unanimously. Letter to Mr. McConnell, Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of -41 aP°1i8) reading as follows: This is in further reference to your letter of December fL 5°, and its enclosures, concerning whether a particular n-"u of time certificate of deposit complies with Regulation You related that a number of member banks in Michigan are "Ing the form of certificate. tol„ The certificate, which evidences a deposit in a stated Hand which is nonnegotiable, provides on its face that it monthmable when returned properly endorsed, upon three (3) th s written notice during the first thirty (30) months, vie jeafter six (6) months written notice, in accordance .d- the schedule of redemption values printed on the reverse erahereof Interest will be paid by check semi-annually at upon ai7 te of two and one-half (2-1/2) per cent per annum for ba„ full months. This certificate may be redeemed by this anYtime after thirty-six (36) months from date of issue Up (6) months written notice to the payee." °11 the reverse side of the certificate there are printed schedule of redemption values and also a schedule of api:imate investment yield. It appears that there would be no 3: rlestm.„ Yield on such a certificate redeemed, pursuant to 131 written notice, less than 6 months from date of -e. Otherwise, the approximate investment yield on the the pr 128 1/18/57 certificate if redeemed pursuant to 3 months' written notice during the first 30 months, would range from 1 per cent to 2 per cent, while the approximate investment yield on the certificate would be 2-1/2 per cent if it were not redeemed until after 30 months pursuant to the necessary 6 months' written notice. The result seems to be that, notwithstanding anY previous semi-annual payments of interest at the 2-1/2 Per cent rate on such a certificate, the investment yield actual, Y received in the event of redemption pursuant to the 3 months' written notice provision reflects an adjustment to a lower rate of earnings on the deposit. Considering the matter on the basis of the Supplement it/Lthe regulation as it existed prior to January 1, 1957, the rd is of the view that the certificate in question would -47,:" conflict with the regulation, assuming, of course, that '"e actual net investment yield in the event of redemption Pursuant VD 3 months' vritt-n notice during the first 30 months would not exceed 2 13.r* cent. Under the Supplement sn t'ne regulation which bucame effective January 1, 1957, the view would apply to such a certificate revised to take ra y antage of the presently effective maximum permissible —p tes (pf interest, assuming that the actual net investment e" in the event of redemption pursuant to 3 months' writ11°tice during the first 30 months did not exceed 2-1/2 at . cent, and the actual net investment yield on redemption ex a later time pursuant to 6 months' written notice did not yi : p ed 3 er cent. On this basis, the rates of investment would not appear to exceed the maximum permissible rates eires of interest applicable under the regulation in the cumstances of the particular redemption privilege elected. ar Z sembIThe Board believes that the situation not only bears rein it : e to the one involved in the interpretation contained • taat letter S-1022 of May 13, 1948 (F.R.L.S. #6301.1), but -e view expressed above is consistent with the principles :1:sed in its interpretations published at 1953 Federal ,e Bulletin 721 and 1956 Federal Reserve Bulletin 833 (p.R *-"S. #6301.2). /1:1 Approved unanimously. Ilintzl ,ancLetter to The Honorable H. E. Cook, Chairman, Federal Deposit e Corporation, reading as follows: Re C°11.e rA ference -.riling the is made to your letter of January 3, 1957) application of The Wcshington Loan and Banking 1/18/57 -5- Company, Washington, Georgia, for continuance of deposit insurance after withdrawal from membership in the Federal Reserve System. Our last report of examination of the bank, as of January 3, 1956, disclosed a satisfactory asset condition, and the matters subject to criticism related primarily to the Trent lack of regard for banking laws and regulatiOflS, ;Y the management and to certain weaknesses in the nstitution's records, systems, and controls. These matters were brought to the attention of the directors Of the bank and corrections were promised except with re!pect to the practice of absorption of exchange for cusomers in violation of the Board's Regulation Q and im, Rroving the records, systems, and controls. The Board of Governors does not believe that corrective programs with 1:espect to these matters need be incorporated as conditions to the continuance of deposit insurance. Approved unanimously. reaa, Letter to the Comptroller of the Currency, Treasury Department, Ing as follows: N Reference is made to a letter from your office dated trember 9, 1956, enclosing photostatic copies of an appliesc_on to organize a national bank at Seven Corners, Fairfax ZuntY, Virginia, and requesting a recommendation as to wnether or not the application should be approved. an A report of investigation of the application, made by „ e xaminer for the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, indiizes 'Ldt the proposed capital structure of the bank would aQeoPlate and that the proposed management possesses the sZalities to supervise the institution satisfactorily. On : ' 117 other hand, the prospective earnings of the institution 17 favorable. The immediate area surrounding the t" c loe bri-a:p7rn of the proposed bank is now being served by a b1417 - c" of a State bank, and it is reported that an additional api01-117h is to be established near the site selected by the ffe; -cant. In addition, there are eight other banking ofthin a radius of three miles. The investigation did riot rev reveal anY evidence of need for additional banking faciltea"- After considering the information available, the °f Governors does not feel justified in recommending ' 1'°Iral of the application at this time. 130 1/18/57 -6- The Board's Division of Examinations will be glad to discuss any aspects of this case with representatives of Your office if you so desire. Approved unanimously, following a discussion of the characteristics of the territory which would be served by the proposed bank, the number of existing banking facilities in the area, and the question of need for additional banking facilities at the present time. There were presented telegrams to the Federal Reserve Banks listed 1 be-ow approving the establishment without change on the dates indicated of the rates of discount and purchase in their existing schedules: Boston New York Philadelphia January 14 January 17 January 17 Approved unanimously. At this point Messrs. Thomas, Economic Adviser to.the Board, and 42 8Pecial Assistant to the Board, entered the room. 14 accordance with the decisions reached at the meeting on January 15, 19 57/ there was a further discussion at this meeting of the forthcoming hee.1.4_ 4 JJ16 etbarlit Under the Bank Holding Company Act pertaining to the formation of holding comParlY involving The First National City Bank of New York, cotIr 13811k Farmers Trust Comp also of New York City, and County Trust 14/411Y Of 'White Plains, New York. 111 a memorandum dated January 17, 1957, copies of which had been 4cht to the members of the Board, Chairman Martin advised that he had 131 1/18/57 -7- talked 'With Mr. Howard Sheperd) Chairman of the Board of First National CitY Bank) who stated that he and his associates would be opposed to P°8tIzionement of the hearing as in their eyes it would indicate interferce vith established procedures by an outside body. However, they saw hO ob jection to indicating at the opening of the hearing that it would be continued until March 15 or April 1 in order to give Mr. Morris SchaPiro and his group (the Advisory Council to the Joint Legislative C°1411ittee on the Revision of the Banking Law of the State of New York)) eltrePreeentatives of the New York State Legislature an opportunity to Ptesent their views or recommendations. It vas reported that according to the press two bills had been illtt°thiced in the State Legislature) the first of which would limit to eXiating State banking districts until May 10 1957, the formation and "114mion of new bank holding companies and would also prohibit further elq)ansion of existing bank holding companies. The second bill would prohibit til MaY 1, 19580 holding company acquisition of banks across regional ballk Or Ga7ernor Robertson stated that he had received this morning a copy the first bill. He then read the bill and commented on its provisions. ti4 11118 hie un derstanding that this proposal was more likely to be enacted 4' 44 the second bill, a measure which reflected the recommendation of the °IPerrior of New York. 1/18/57 Governor Robertson also said that he had talked by telephone with Schapiro to inform him that the Board would not make a decision regard:I-Ng the hearing until today, and that Mr. Schapiro said he would so advise the members of the Advisory Council. Governor Robertson vent on to ea Y that when he vas in New York City yesterday he learned that the could not be introduced in the State Legislature on Friday, which accolanted for the introduction of both bills yesterday. He said that President Hayes and Vice President Wiltse of the Federal Reserve Bank of liellY°rk both were inclined to feel, although they had no definite statebal" fl'ols the parties, that the applicants in this matter would not want to be NI+ in a position of pushing the issue through in the face of proaPectiva -egislation. As for themselves, a preference was expressed for 0Perltiot g the hearing on the scheduled date but giving an indication that the 113ard li°uld not reach its decision until after the termination of the rresze Period fixed by whatever bill might be enacted. It was anticipated, Oovern or R obertson said, that a bill might be passed on Wednesday, Jan23. *0 Vest said that the question of procedure with respect to the Ile illg appeared to him to be a relatively close one. He rather hoped that the Board would not go ahead with the hearing and at the same time rItEtle 4 c"MitMent to hold it open when it was not known what the legisilltilie situation would be by the date of the hearing. To make such a ecnritilitnielit, he said, also might mean that the hearing would have to be 133 1/18/57 -9reopened for further testimony. He felt that the Board would be justified in g°ing ahead as scheduled or, on the other hand, in postponing the hearing on the grounds that the public interest was reflected in the State legislation. Since the Governor had recommended legislation and bills had nov been introduced, it could be said that the situation vas somewhat different from the situation prevailing when the hearing was announced. Mr. Hackley agreed with Mr. Vest that it would be better to defer the heari ng than to begin it and make some commitment to hold the hearing 0Pen. A Postponement of the date of the hearing could be based on the recent dev e-Lopments with respect to the legislative situation in New York State ) and it would afford time for the Legislature to consider legis- lati on i n a more comprehensive manner. Mr. Hackley also called attention to h, t-- Prc)visions of the Bank Holding Company Act which indicate that the -ard sh °uld consider the views of the State authorities, pointing out that in this re qUired by case the views of the State Superintendent of Banks were not law, but that the Board nevertheless decided to ask for them. After Mr. Hexter expressed the view that because of the probable t a bill in New York State within the next few days little would ee4etm lk Qst bY Postponement of the hearing, Mr. O'Connell said that he also be -nclined to favor postponement of the hearing rather than to t th e hearing and leave the record open. earl)1 g 18 tlala 1/it He pointed out that if a conducted and the record is left open, it is a public record ne--es may desire to alter their original testimony. He inquired 1/18/ 57 -10the fact that bills had now been introduced in any way appeared t° lualifY Mr. Schapiro's suggestion that freeze legislation might not be enacted if the hearing was postponed. In response to Mr. OTormellts question, Governor Robertson said it seenled Possible that the bills might be withdrawn if the Board postDoted the hearing until the end of the legislative session. He expressed dL(Ibt, however, whether such action by the Board would be advisable now that the bills had been introduced. In a further discussion, Mr. Molony commented on the public relati°48 aspects of the situation and suggested that there might be some flifficultY in explaining a postponement of the hearing merely in anticipatiort Of the fact that certain State legislation might be enacted. On the other h and, if a bill should be enacted, it would be quite easy to explain aeti (311 to Postpone. With reference to Mr. Molony's remarks the adConfluent was made that in the event of announcement of similar heari 48 in the future, opponents of the applications concerned might fol1°Ir the Practice— - of having bills introduced in the State Legislature in an attetpt ‘0 influence deferment of the hearings. GOv Robertson said that he agreed generally with the analysis Of the Legal D n ivisio. Going one step further, he had some doubt whether the laeltra in 811°111d wait until next Wednesday to postpone the hearing nched' ea to be gin the following day. He, therefore, suggested that the hear/ha be 13°"Pc'ned for a week or 10 days so that interested parties would 1/18/57 -11have 4a. 141e information and would not make arrangements on the assumption that the hearing would begin as scheduled. While he did not think it should be taken for granted that legislation would be passed, he thought that the lative interested parties should be afforded more time while legis- - vel.Opments were awaited, and that a postponement until the first °t Pebru-arY would give everyone .an opportunity to appraise the situation. If tree ze legislation was enacted in the meantime, he assumed that the heari, t'g would be put over until the end of the legislative session. Governor Should Mills then stated reasons why he felt that the hearing proceed as scheduled, the first of which was that he thought the Be" s• h°111d- preserve its jurisdictional authority from influence either n the siA _ of interested public authorities or the applicant. To pre• Oh Jurisdictional authority, he believed that the hearing should gO forvard on schedule unless the applicant withdrew the application or l's Wellted postponement. The second point which he brought out was that the pu rpose the hearing was to examine all facets of the problem so that the Board could then reach a mature judgment and make an equitable ciscisioh. The information presented at the hearing, he noted, would in- lude not only the reasoning of the applicant but adverse testimony, in11411 g that of the New York banking authorities. If, however, the 14 11 r• k State authorities should petition the hearing examiner for an ent e be while presenting thei decided on its merit testimony, that petition should of 136 1/18/57 -12Governor Szymczak indicated that at the moment he would favor gcling ahead, despite the introduction of the bills, because of the re8Pon8tbilitie8 vested in the Board by the Congress and the fact that it vas n ot certain whether any State legislation would be passed. On the °tiler hand, he recognized that such a procedure might create ill feeling York State and cause the State Legislature to take some action that otherwise might be avoided. Chairman Martin then asked a series of questions bearing upon the etre "°f State legislation on the provisions of the Bank Holding ComPallY Act. tiat the In response, Mr. Vest said that the Congress had made it clear Bank Holding Company Act was subject to restrictions in the form "state legislation. Therefore, if freeze legislation was passed in New York State, he felt that it would be futile for the Board to hold hearings, Darticiaarly if the legislation effected a freeze until. May 1958, as conte 4-ated by one of the two bills. He pointed out that a hearing at the Present ttme could not in such circumstances develop appropriate factors, 4111" it vonld concern a question on which the Board could not grant "rective aPproval until the expiration date of the State legislation. It vne his °Pinion that pertinent provisions of the Bank Holding Company Per4litted the State of New York to take legislative action which would errective to prohibit the transactions contemplated by the current 4DPlications under the Bank Holding Company Act. 1/18/57 -13In the light of Mr. Vest's interpretation of the law, the view 1414 expressed that the enactment of freeze legislation in New York State v°111d constitute a valid reason for deferment of the forthcoming hearing. It vas pointed out, however, that at this point the situation was some*tat different because the Board could not be sure that legislation would be enacted and, furthermore, did not know what provisions any such legislation„ ""-ght contain. In this connection, it was brought out that the cf testimony at the hearing would not commence until Monday, JanU/117 28, after certain formalities had been disposed of on the preceding 111141111aY, and that the State legislative situation might have become more Ie8.-1'bY the later date. At +1,4 --.48 point Governor Robertson left the room to talk by telephone 'with President Hayes. After returning, he said that Mr. Hayes had disclUsed the matter with other officers of the Reserve Bank and continued to 4114111t the possibility of holding the hearing open until after the end of t4e -egialative session so as to give the Legislature a better opportunity t° deal with the problem. He said it vas Mr. Hayes' view that it would be lzrtfortunate if the freeze legislation were enacted and that the Board might 'be in a position to prevent such action if it took a position in line Mr. SchaPirols recommendation. Under this plan the hearing would be "1" januarY 24 and the Board would make a statement that it would : „ t . —kiremer a decision until after the end of the legislative session. 138 1/18/57 -14- Stich action, Mr. Hayes felt, might result in preventing the passage of hasty and ill-conceived legislation out of a spirit of antagonism. Governor Balderston said it had been his view, in the light of the i--vortance of the ultimate decision in relation to the New York State batiking structure, that a decision on the applications should not be l'eached by the Board until the State had had an opportunity to pass legis1ati0n a ffecting the whole New York situation. It was his present feeling thyt the best move might be for the Board to postpone the hearing until a later date, either to the end of a 10-day period mentioned by Governor Robert eon or until the end of the legislative session. Governor Robertson agreed with this position and said that if the ilesard favored a temporary deferment he could get in touch with Mr. Schapiro arid cate that if the bills were withdrawn the Board would either (1) 11°13t oa the hearing or (2) postpone a decision until after the end of the le8i8lative session. He said that if the Board was not going to make a "181°11 ibllowing the taking of testimony, it would seem inadvisable to : ' 411d the hew __ J.Jag at this time. A postponement of the hearing could be j4litified on the basis that the State should have an opportunity to devise €141Ldt lilies pertaining to its own banking structure. At the conclusion of further discussion of various aspects of the ratter at 7 .airman / Martin raised a question whether the Board should decide Iale what it would be best to do by January 24. He said that the inte rpretation of the statute given by Mr. Vest, it seemed clear Ai.39 1/18/57 -15- that the Board would have to terminate the proceeding automatically if ote n, the pending bills should be passed by the New York State LegislatIlres be 111 the circumstances, he suggested that no decision on procedure e at this time and that the Board consider the matter again prior to the s cheduled date of the hearing in the light of further developments. Governor Robertson said that he would be willing to go along with the chairmao -s suggestion although he would prefer somewhat to act at thia time to postpone the hearing for a week or 10 days. He also said that if the m— wmrd decided to defer a decision with regard to the hearing, he %tom call Mr. Schapiro and tell him that the Board had concluded to d° --g to interfere with the desires or wishes of New York State, that the 04 B -rd would, therefore, plan to proceed with the hearing, but that re. bill should be passed by the State Legislature, the Board would conilider the matter again. G°vernor Mills suggested that Governor Robertson might also point °Iat to Mr. se he hepiro that his Advisory Council was free to appear at the al‘t118 and offer such testimony as it might desire. Agreement was expressed with the suggested procedure and it was also understood that Chairman Martin would get in touch with Mr. Howard Sheperd and advise him of the status of the matter. Also in connection with the First National City Bank matter, unanimous approval was given to letters as follows, drafts of which had been 14(, 1/18/57 -16distributed to the members of the Board prior to this meeting: Letter , Retrise_ ror the signature of Chairman Martin to The Honorable Victor R. J114 ) A8sistant Attorney General, Antitrust Division, Department of j This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of .anuarY 11, 1957, with regard to the forthcoming hearing / 07°1ving the application of The First National City Bank New York and others to form a bank holding company. lou advise that it is your view that your responsibilities in the enforcement of the antitrust laws require the DePartment of Justice to investigate this matter fully in ilidezTitto ascertain all the essential competitive facts is your intention to institute an immediate 44 : ,ee 1 tigation. We note that the Department cannot say at ;"-is time that it desires to submit testimony in the hearif possible, would like to reserve the right to be'e a brief or other statement at a later date. We will br,verY glad to have you submit a statement or file a 80:ef et the appropriate time if you should decide to do to bell/ the meantime, the Board or its staff will be glad neet10°f any assistance it can to the Department in con With any aspects of this matter. Letter Email f°1" the signature of Vice Chairman Balderston to The Honorable Celler, House of Representat ives is in reply to your letter of January 9, 1957, with Thi8 a reference to the hearing regarding the formation of Beurnk holding company involving The First National City °f New York, City Bank Farmers Trust Company of New 8.11,4) and County Trust Company of White Plains, New York, ft enclosina a copy of your statement on January 7, 1957 before the Joint Legislativ, . Committee to Revise the Bankmellt1414* of New York. We are pleased that the arrange+, 8 o utlined in our letter of January 7 with respect to ' "e time your testifying at the hearing are satiefact°rY. Provi!ecti°n 11 of the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 that interpreted as -eAuvina — nothing therein shall be ""Y action which may be in violation of existing IL 1 1/18/57 -17la, nor is anythingtlerein to constitute a defense to anY action or proceeding on account of any prohibited antitrust action or conduct. Also, as you indicate, Under the Celler-Kefauver amendment to section 7 of the ulayton Act the test is whether the effect of the acmay be substantially to lessen competition or tO tend to create a monopoly in any section of the country. Section 3(c) of the Bank Holiing Company Act requires the Board, in passing upon each application by 4 hank holding company for approval of its acquisition f bank stock, to consider certain specific factors, ii whether or not the effect of the proposed acti would be to expand the size or extent of the hold olding company system beyond limits consistent with e Public interest and the preservation of competition the field of banking. The concept involved in this 4actor i8 a broad one, and in the Board's opinion adeats consideration of the facts in this regard necesiarilY involves consideration of the standards mentioned n section 7 of the Clayton Act--that is, whether in eg i, line of commerce in any section of the country the le ' ect of such acquisition might be substantially to ssen competition or to tend to create a monopoly. ? r In the circumstances, it has not been considered neces sarY to refer specifically in the order for hearc41 , uJ the standards of the Clayton Act or to give spein structions to the hearing examiner on the subJect Y°u may be assured that the Board in its considten; " of this matter will take into account all pertifactors, including whether the proposed transactions involve a violation of section 7 of the Clayton At ' or other statutes. Messrs. Thomas, Molony, and O'Connell then withdrew from the meet- °4 january 14, 1957, the Board met with representatives of Marine Corporation to discuss the Corporation's application to acquire 142 1/18/57 -18- tae 7°.ting shares of The Lake Shore National Bank of Dunkirk, Dunkirk, Nev York. of the discussion had been sent to the members of the Board and further consideration was given to the matter at this time. Chairman Martin pointed out that the application had been before the Board for several months and that, vhile there were elements which tended to Justify some delay, the Board perhaps should have reached a Ilecisi°n on the matter somewhat more promptly. He vent on to say that if the Placation was denied and Manufacturers and Traders Trust Company of „ uaen obtained approval to take over the Dunkirk bank, the situatU)'Javould be difficult to explain. He also made the comment that he *kbted ""ether a formal hearing mould add a great deal to the informati°11 slreadY available in this particular case. In itself, he said, this 1111(43"ed acquisition was a very small transaction which would not seem to Etlter later iallY the position of Marine Midland Corporation. Turning to the bank holding company bills pending before the New 'York State Legisattire tiu were discussed earlier in this meeting, he said that they allPear ettnateze to prohibit an acquisition of this kind and that in the cir- es it might be advisable for the Board to postpone action on the to tile Midland matter until further information was available with respect those bills. be et Governor Mills said it vas his feeling that the application should Pl)twed• While he did not know exactly where the stopping point 811°1134 be In the expansion of Marine Midland, he felt that if there was 143 1/18/57 -19Justification for any additional bank acquisitions by the holding comlan,Y, this was a case where there was an abundance of evidence in support or the transaction. The situation was discussed further in the light of the pending State egislation and Governor Robertson expressed the opinion that action by the Board today might tend to antagonize the State Legislature, for he -"uerstood that the bills which had been introduced were designed to Prohibit further expansion by Marine Midland. Therefore, he would re- fl'airi from acting until after State legislation had been enacted. G°7ernor Szymczak, who was not present at the meeting with the Marine m4 4441and representatives, said he had reviewed the record and continued to feel that Marine Midland expansion must be stopped at some point. the -,se or each proposed acquisition some justification could be given arid it , a- very difficult to knaw just when the proper stopping point had been reached. this m Governor Balderston said that while, as he had stated earlier in eeting, he would not want to irritate the New York State Legislature ProcomA4 With the First National City Bank matter, he felt there Other considerations which should be mentioned in the Marine Midland t:te deei it 0,In the. first place, he asked whether the Board should make its 11 in anticipation of legislation that might be enacted or whether M°111'1 Proceed on the basis of existing legislation. He also suggested ''"t it might not be good strategy for the Board to make an issue of a 144 1/18/57 -20- Proposed acquisition which by its nature was such that the problem would /lot be understood by the public generally. Since the Congress apparently had not intended to pass legislation uhich would freeze holding companies, eillea the aoTlisition of the Lake Shore Bank would not result in crossing Y°I'k State banking district lines and would appear to increase rather that to diminish competition locally, and since the delay in Board action P°861-1)1Y had affected the parties involved adversely, he felt that perhaps the Board should make a favorable decision regardless of the fact that the -Legislation might be adopted. In other words, he questioned whether the Boar„48 decision should be different than it would have been were it tot for t ahe prospect that State legislation might be enacted. Governor Szymczak then added to his previous statement by saying that his vievs on the matter were the same as they would have been if the legislative developments I.n respect to holding company legislation in New Y°rk S4. tate had not entered the picture. He referred to the expansion of the marine Midland Group over a long period of time and to the concentrati°14 that had been built up in various parts of the State, particularly the Buffalo area. In view of these long-run developments, it was his (41clusion that the point had been reached where further expansion should 4" be Permitted. Additional discussion brought out that denial of the application '&d not preclude the Marine Midland Group from taking over the Lake S11°re National Bank under certain arrangements outside the purview of the 145 1/18/57 -21Bank Holding Company Act. The question was asked whether there was rea8on to believe that Manufacturers and Traders Trust Company would be able to obtain approval to acquire the Dunkirk bank, and it was 8t"ed that no definite information was available on that point. Governor Shepardson said that basically he was inclined to agree /qt4 the that Point of view expressed by Governor Szymczak. He understood -while the Bank Holding Company Act was not intended to be freeze legislation, its purpose was to restrain bank holding company expansion tc the extent That affirmative and convincing justification must be given tO permit i t It was clear that a number of small acquisitions could 131'°dIlee results not consistent with the legislation, and he did not feel that strong evidence had been presented to indicate a need for Marine to rnovv into the Dunkirk area. On the other hand, to turn down the aPplieation might permit a less satisfactory situation to develop thrcw.gh "Taisition of the local bank by other interests, and in all the Lrelllanstsnoes he would be inclined to make an exception in this case. At the request of the Board, Mr. Hackley then reviewed the Board's responsibilities Under the provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act in relation to a matter of this kind. He pointed out that in this case there al5Pee'red to be no : °1\r "c)rth'4est compelling reason for the acquisition, which would inbank. In a previous case, involving o rf ata in on, Board had raised certain questions even t e xishtei:: th°11gb the e limination of an existing bank was not involved and that appli4ttioll vas now being held in abeyance at the request of the applicant. ("f 1/18/57 -22Governor Mills stated that although, on the merits of the case, he would be inclined to approve the application, he felt that Governor Robert ' 04 had proposed a sound basis for deferring action temporarily. With r egard to the points mentioned by Governor Balderston, Governor Mills eeia that he thought the logic expressed was correct but that as a practical tter no serious harm would be done by deferring the decision for a week. k8stIJIL-ing that no legislation had been passed by that time, he would be -Luta to approve the application. Chairman Martin then stated that in view of the divergence of °Pinion expressed at this meeting and in view of the legislative situation 14 New York State, he would suggest deferring action on the application for tilrther cons ideration in the light of developments. There was unanimous agreement with this suggestion. At this arid, Point Messrs. Hexter and Thompson withdrew from the meeting MessrsRiefler, Assistant to the Chairman, Solomon, Assistant General Coluisea., NOYes) Adviser, Division of Research and Statistics, Cherry, ive l'arket Counsel, and Brill, Chief, Business Finance and Capital s Sion, Division of Research anti Statistics, entered the room. In ac cordance with the decision at the meeting on January 14, 1957, eorisideration was given to a revised draft of letter to Senator Sparkman, Lj Of the Subcommittee on Housing of the Senate Banking and Currency eo Nttee ) re sponsive to his request for the Board's views on the question or 411Dropriate policy for interest rates for Federally underwritten mortgages. 147 V18/57 -23Governor Mills said that while the first part of the revised draft stated in general terms that in the matter of rate policy there was "area of discretion that the Congress might wish to look into, the two Succeedi-4 paragraphs seemed to him to indicate an opinion on the part • ct the Board that flexibility of rates through the exercise of administrati _ *v'c discretion deserved favorable consideration by the Congress. He dotlbtd vhether the Board would want to express such an attitude when it seemed a PParent that the Congress was not prepared to delegate discretionE1',Y authority in this field to any administering agency. According to 44 illformation, the Congress was opposed to granting discretionary author'which might result in interest rates that at some time might be conaidercd inc onsistent with the best interests of veterans and those who Obtain benefits from the insurance of mortgages by the Federal Housing 4 11114413tl ' ati°n. On the theoretical side, he remained of the opinion that ..egislation such as envisaged by the proposal for a flexible formula based tIle Yield of long-term Goverment securities would tend to solve the 1)r".1"1 by producing a general uniformity throughout the United States. He tlIclaght that such a formula would fail to apply only in rather remote combe a 4nd that in such communities adjustment to a realistic rate could cconaplished by discounting. It was possible, he said, that those cases 11°41d be 8° rare that they would not constitute a serious problem. eNal G°7"tor Robertson said that his thoughts on the matter were gen41°11€ the same lines and that he thought the draft of reply could 148 1/18/57 —24— be changed in certain respects to meet satisfactorily the points mentioned 1,-4' Governor Mills. He then suggested the nature of the changes l'hioh he had in mind. Following a discussion of the subject in the light of the comments Plade Governors Mills and Robertson, Chairman Martin suggested that allother A, % 4-sft of the proposed reply be distributed prior to further coneidsret4 .i.on of the matter by the Board. There was unanimous agreement with this suggestion. Under date of January 9 1957, there had been sent to the members of the Board cop ee i of a memorandum from Mr. Young summarizing an attached from the Business Finance and Capital Markets Section which reYleired stock market developments in 1956. This review indicated that basic ee040 4ie factors relating to the level of stock market margin requirements h.A -" changed substantially since the requirements were last increased bY the Board, in April 1955, and that maintenance of present margin reqqrement levels could not be supported on the same economic grounds that tirlaeria e : 4 wiers the 1955 action. However, in view of the economic situation gen- as de scribed in the memorandum from Mr. Young, it was felt that L/4ght still be persuasive reasons for maintaining the present margin quiretri vhich 1 -fltal even though such reasons differed substantially from those et the Board to raise the requirements to the present level. Atter Mr. Brill had commented on recent stock market developments, tY111"ak said that, as Mr. Young's memorandum indicated, some 1/18/57 -25ztql:Mtent could be made for reducing the margin requirements at this time. 11°Iiiever, in view of the over-all economic situation he felt that such 8-ct1on vould be confusing. Accordingly, he suggested that the subject be 1311-toyer for further consideration a few weeks hence. In a further discussion, Chairman Martin expressed agreement with G° ern°1 'SzYmczakts reasoning that no action should be taken at this time. Igent on to say that the matter was one which should be followed con- titil1°1181Y by the Board in the light of developments. G°vertor Robertson concurred and made the suggestion that the be considered again by the Board whenever circumstances appeared t° Ifrrant. Thereupon, it was agreed unanimously that no action to Change the margin requirements should be taken at this time and that, as suggested, the subject would be brought up again for discussion at such time as seemed appropriate in the light of developments. Shay, 88rs. Solomon and Brill then withdrew from the meeting and Mr. Bsistant General Counsel, entered the room. 14tniles. It a letter dated December 17 1056 , y the Federal Reserve Bank of Pc)lis presented on behalf of a member bank two specific questions Q"eernin g the aPPlication of Regulation Q, Payment of Interest on De114its. tike The first question involved whether a deposit that was clearly a deP°81t aA -n- not a savings deposit might be evidenced by a certificate ISO 1/4/57 -26- labeled "savings certificate". v°1114 be The second question concerned whether it permissible for a bank not to require written notice of with- for savings deposits evidenced by a pass book while requiring such Ilotioe as to savings deposits evidenced by a written receipt or agreement, the ,. of which was permitted by the May 16, 1955, amendment to Regulation • A draft of reply had been circulated to the members of the Board Ithich c)131c1 state, with respect to the first question, that the Board con- t1ll4ecl to feel that it would not be justified in raising objection to the Practi a*ces As to the second question, the reply would state that it seemed elear that the bank could not permit withdrawals as to one class of dePc'eita vithout exercising the option to require advance written notice ithile at the same time exercising such option as to the other class of cleP°Bita. When the file was in circulation Governor Shepardson attached a 11114 in which he stated, with regard to the first question, that it plieleading 114tes to place emphasis on detailed provisions in time certif- U44.1_ regard to maturity and at the same time to confuse the issue 14 P"mitting use of a misleading label on the heading of the certificate. , the circumstances, he suggested that the Board might wish to consider cevere 14 the position taken on previous occasions. te ja:he file was then recirculated with a memorandum from Mr. Eackley k -1412117 7, 1957, in which he stated that if the Board wished to take 15441°11 different from that suggested in the proposed letter a further 151 1/18/57 -27- lullendriftt to Regulation Q would appear to be necessary which would say that no deposit could be classified as a time certificate of deposit if 41ras labeled or designated as a savings certificate. The memorandum Pointed out that any such proposal would involve negotiations with the Pederio Deposit Insurance Corporation and publication of a proposed amendrile "in the Federal Register for comments. Governor Shepardson said that he did not question the consistency of the bit Proposed reply with the position taken by the Board in the past, at At the Board was interested, as appeared from recent discussions, in dr °Ing lines of distinction between savings accounts and time deposits it Seemed in consistent to raise questions on relatively minor points and then 13e rmit a misleading label to be used on time certificates of deposit. or time Hackley then reviewed the use by banks during recent years certificates with alternate maturities and increasing interest re'tes. Some banks, he said, appeared to feel that it would help competitiv to label these certificates as savings certificates and the Board 1341 ot object to such labeling. However, following the May 1955 amendtent of Regulation Q some banks proposed to use certificates with definite 1111111krities as savings deposits. On this point the Board took an unfavorIke view and decided to propose a clarifying amendment to the regulation. the eat ease nol referred to the Board, it could be argued that confusion although it was merely the form of the certificate that eeted rather than the substance. If the Board 'wished to discourage 152 1/18/57 the -28- Practice, it would probably be necessary to negotiate with the 1°ederal Deposit Insurance Corporation and publish a proposed amendment t° Reguin44 Q in the Federal Register, and the question was whether the Board felt strongly enough that the practice was unduly confusing and should be stopped. Mr. Vest stated that, while the Board could of course amend its reguie.ti_ 2 un a problem of appropriate language would be involved. The de:Posit in - question could not be classified as a savings deposit, 8° the 14 , --Jard would almost be put in a position of saying that it must be elate -sifted as a demand deposit. Governor Robertson inquired whether the matter could be handled aliggesting to the Minneapolis Reserve Bank that it advise the interested Parties that the practice raised a serious question and might result 131 4/1 atendment to Regulation Q if continued. In r esponse, Mr. Shay said that the manner Of labeling be ratha -r w idespread in several Federal Reserve districts, and a(lcied 1404) a tr hat the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation had taken ter d iscussion with Board representatives, that it had t° th. - Practice. seemed to Mr. Hackley the posino objection the 114 ?°11°Iring further discussion, Governor Robertson suggested that be referred to the Presidents' Conference with a request that eelN eellssed at the forthcoming meeting of the Conference and the joint or the P residents and the Board. This suggestion was approved unanimously. 153 -29Secretary's Note: Pursuant to this action, the following telegram was sent today to Mr. Leedy, Chairman of the Presidents' Conference: tio, 211estion has been raised with the Board whether Regula, and Regulation D should be amended to prohibit the tabeling of a deposit as a "savings certificate" where the Posit would not qualify for classification as a savings ,?Posit but would qualify for classification as a time cerLificate of deposit. r In the past, the Board has not objected to the labelin g of time certificates of deposit as 'savings certificates". 'Xiever, as the matter has been raised again and in view of a e fact that the Board has under consideration possible rnlendments to Regulation Q and Regulation D to preclude the f7Pres e ntation of savings deposits by certificates having e;:xed maturities as described in Board's letter to all Fedr1 Rese ve Banks of December 21, 1956, Board will appreciat : a,: it if you will put the question stated above on the ' nda for the forthcoming meeting of the Presidents' Conferfj,%!Lnd the joint meeting of the Prasidents with the Board ulscussion in the light of the desirability of such a pertice and the extent to which it is used in the different eral Reserve districts. 4 At this °13erations, Point Mr. Horbett, Associate Director, Division of Bank entered the room. Mr. Carpet. reported receipt by the Board of a letter dated 4"1111t7 15) 1957 written by two Miami, Florida, member bankers on behalf °r the eight miami member banks regarding the reserve city designation of th6t city. The letter requested deferment of the effective date of the 41ligliation (mare, n 1, 1957) for at least 90 days and an opportunity for illsesentatives of Plse4i1t tanks involved to appear before the Board to "certain unusualfactors with respect to the local situation 1118/57 Ithich might have a bearing on the Board's final determination in tills matter". The view was expressed that the requests should be granted, but that it vould be advisable for the Miami banks to submit pertinent tion in writing before their representatives met with the Board. At the conclusion of a diucly:nion of the matter, it was understood that a draft of reply to the letter would be prepared for consideration by the Board. The meeting then adjourned. Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf of the Board the following items: m IIPpointmMe-oranda from appropriate individuals concerned recommending oh the rent of the following persons to the Board's staff, effective as esPective dates on which they assume their duties: e itle Division Basic annual salary A A ft* L°VeJOY, ;asistant Federal "ecrlfe Examiner 114th b Examinations $5,440 13s Rughes, Jr., r'cqlnel Technician Personnel Administration 4,525 Letter to Mr. Latham, follows..First Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank st°n, r eading as lett!ri accordance with the request contained in your Itlent;-82f January 14, 1947, the Board approves the appoint as .- Q1 Richard Oliver Fischer and Frank Michael Hillery -ssi.4 -kent examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. 155 1/18/57 -31Please advise as to the dates upon which the appointments are made effective. Letter to Mr. MacDonald, Chief Examiner, Federal Reserve Bank of reading as follows: In accordance with the request contained in your e lett isgnatri: January 15, 1957, the Board approves the desof the following employees of your bank as _P,scial assistant examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank rulajoston for the purpose of participating in the exami14_ i°ns of Depositors Trust Company, Augusta, Maine, The Z7rrill Trust Company, Bangor, Maine, The Connecticut k and Trust Company, Hartford, Connecticut, and Rhode and Hospital Trust Company, Providence, Rhode Island: Z Arthur J. Campatelli Ralph B. Kimball 41,1 Sven H. Lundberg Earl F. Smith Letter Mr. W • Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank o4" York, readiniltse, to g as follows: n accordance with the request contained in your Inen; er of January 10, 1957, the Board approves the appointas' s of Albert J. Bozio and Constantine C. Kontopirakis yorraistant examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of New poi Please advise as to the dates upon which the apn6ments are made effective. Chemiit is noted that Mr. Kontopirakis is indebted to the $192-cal COM Exchange Bank, New York, in the amount of the eayable at the rate of $16 per month. Accordingly, Mr. ,°arcils approval is given with the understanding that Of trnt°Pirakis will not participate in any examinations ind— e L'nemical Corn Exchange Bank, New York, until his t'ctedness haN4 been liquidated or otherwise eliminated. The B 2prinp.f oard also approves the designation of William K. Reser;,,%8 as a special assistant examiner for the Federal zank of New York.