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A, meetine of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

syst

wee held in Tashington on Tuesday, January 16, 1940, at 10:45

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairmen
Szymczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Gardner, Senior Economist in the
Division of Research and Statistics

Mr. Coldenweiser stated that in accordance with the request
414de at th

--e meeting of the Board yesterday he and Mr. C-ardner had pre-

Plkred

A

memorandum, which was being typed and which would be available

4ter
'
- r.Lng the meeting, containing their recomendations with respect
to
the
Inter-American Bank. He said the recommendations were to the
effect

that, in the light of all the considerations involved, it is
dee*
aule that the bank
be organized, as there is an economic service
that
it
can Perform, although it is recognized that it is not a solution
Ot the
1\Indamental problem of developing South American purchasing
11°/ver abroad,
as that can be accomplished only by the purchase of goods
by oth
er countries in South America. There are, he said, a number of




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-2waYs in
which the bank could be helpful in the Short- and long-term
fielcl and it would also serve
in furnishing a financial forum and bringing about
closer relations between South American countries. Kr. GoldenStated further that the second recommendation contained in the
illettlorandum was
that, as the bank would exercise a central banking functi°11 and since it
is part of the duty of the System to handle foreign
bank r
elations for this Government, it Should be planned so that the
Federal Reserve
System will participate in its mnsgement. He added
that the placing of
the direction of the bank in the central banks
would be
-n the interest of continuity of management.
In the discussion which follow
ed Messrs. Goldenweiser and
4rdller stated
that when the discussions of the proposed bank were

rirst

---ertaken by
the representatives of the Board and the Treasury
It vas
lInderstood that a joint olan would be developed but that last
Week

th

e TreesurY representatives sent directly to Mr. Berle, Assistezt s
ecretarY of State, a plan which would place the ownership and
nt
e-- of the bank in the hands of the Government, that the Secre-

tary or

the Treasury had
not taken a position on the plan submitted
by the T
reaellrY representatives, and that Mr. Berle submitted the plan
at Et tie
ating of the Inter-American Financial and Economic Advisory
C°11mlittee
Yesterday with the statement that it was a tentative plan
°la vhi
oh there was
same difference of opinion among representatives
or tat S Go
vernment,
that the Board of Governors had not reached any




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-3e"-ausions on it and might have something to say regarding it, and
that the
State Department might itself want to make changes in the
Pr,o.posal, so that the
plan as submitted was purely tentative.
Mr. Gardner said
the question of the ownership and management

or the

bank was
discussed at the meeting and the Treasury representa-

tives
made a statement of reasons in support of Government ownership
011(ililanagement of the proposed bank. He also said he did not feel he
cottld
express any opinion on the matter at that meeting as he was attending es an
Observer only end he did not think it desirable to disC48S

at the
meeting of the committee a disagreement between the Treasury

eAld Board

representatives.

He made the further statement that the

Nmdttee was
going to meet again this afternoon for a further discussion ot
the matt
Mr. G
oldenweiser said that the State Department felt strongly
that the
bank should be
organized and desired to get action as promptly
"P°88ibla, that if the
Board did not take a position on the matter
iillediatelY there was a
strong probability that the Treasury plan would
bs
adopted, that
the situation was rapidly crystallizing and it would
soon be
too late
for the Board to take a position, and that it should
decide
whether it wanted
to express an opinion in the matter and, if
0)
it would
take the position that the bank should be organized
and
whether it
should have Government or central bank representation

14 the
Management.




He made the further suggestion that some action

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-4stould be
taken through conferences with the Secretary of the Treasury
and the
Secretary of State to determine the policy that is to be adopted
So that
this Government will not be in the position of having the questi°11 of the
direction of the bank decided by subordinates, and for the
PlIrpose of
getting, if possible, en egreement of the representatives
°f this G
overnment on whet that policy should be.
Consideration was given to the different positions that the
lard ?Ili
--ght take on the matter during which the memorandum containing
Me883,

the

Goldenweiser
and Gardner's recommendations was brought into

'vont and copies
distributed to members of the Board.
Chairman Eccles stated that the question of ownership and

laballeesitent of the
bank had been discussed by him and Messrs. Goldenviel8
"and Gardner
with Mr. Berle then the latter was at the Board's
"ricas last
week and that it was understood at that time that Mr.
13"le w°111d undertake to
get an agreement on the matter before a plan
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bMitted to the representatives of the
other countries. He also
th
at Mr. Berle
had taken the position that the State Department
tOt

So much
concerned as to where the direction of the bank was

151"ed as
"was

in getting the bank organized as promptly as possible.

lithe
'44ar statement was made that even though the Board might prefer
that th
sa
management of the proposed bank be placed in the hands of
the
"Mt al
—11"ing organizations, that would not mean that, if another
13411 w
"a adopted,
the Board would be opposed to the whole idea of the
°I"ga,b1
zation of
the bank.




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At the conclusion of the discussion,
Mr. Davis moved that Messrs. Goldenweiser
and Gardner be requested to prepare a memorandum to be signed by them and addressed
to Mr. Berle of the State Department and Mr.
White of the Treasury Department making the
recammendation that the bank be under the
direction of the central banks, that the
Board be given the authority to select this
country's representation on the governing
board of the bank which in turn would select
the management and be responsible for the
Operation of the bank, the Board's selection to be subject to the approval of the
Secretary of the Treasury, and that this
Government's share of the capital of the
bank be contributed by the Federal Reserve
banks, appropriated by Congress, or taken
from the unexpended profit resulting from
the devaluation of the dollar.
Mr. Davis' motion was put by the chair
and carried unanimously.
In taking this action it was understood
that the memorandum would be approved by the
members of the Board before transmission.
It was also understood that when Mr.
Gardner went to the meeting of the Inter,American Financial and Economic Advisory
Committee this afternoon he would advise
Mr. Berle privately that he and Mr. Goldenweiser were preparing a memorandum containing
recommendations with respect to the direction of the bank which would be submitted
to him and the Treasury representatives tomorrow.

or the
toEtrd.
Shirt

Chsiman Eccles stated that he called Mr. Delano, Comptroller
CirrencY, on the telephone last night to inform him that the

411(1 received
a letter from the Bark of America National Trust &

"Association,




San Francisco, California, ratifying the request

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made h
-Ylur. Collins as counsel for the bank, that the Board make an
examination of the national bank, and to inquire whether it was still
exPected that the
Board would answer the tuo questions asked at the
flleeting
mu the Treasury on January 8, 1940. He said that Mr. Delano's
l'ePlY was that he did not
know, and an inquiry as to what the Board
was g°146 to do,
that he (Chairman Eccles) stated to Mr. Delano that
to the
first question it was our understanding at the meeting at
the Tl
'
elleurY that the notice to the Bank of America to show cause
w°/11(31 be deferred
until the Board had had an opportunity to go over
the
information furnished by the Comptroller of the Currency, and
that
lneanach as
the order had already been sent there seemed to be
no
occasion for the
Board to give advice on that point. In this contection the
Chairman said he reminded Mr. Delano that some of the inrormation c
ontained in the files of the Comptroller was not sent to us
Until
last Friday
night. In response to a statement from the Camptroller that
he would like to have the Board's opinion on it, Chairman
ecles
said, he stated
that the only reason for expressing an opinion
woald
have been
to influence the Comptroller's action and help him
reach a
decision, and that as he had issued the order it appeared that
he did
not want
the Board's advice. The Comptroller's reply was that

he

Enessed that
was right.

On the
second question, Chairman Eccles said, he expressed
thLss opt.,
"
.Lon to Mr.
Delano that this was related to the first question




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-7SC the reason the Comptroller was anxious to know what the
Bcrard's position would be was to enable him to determine whether to
ieslle the order
to show cause so that there seemed to be no reason
t°11 e Prompt
decision by the Board on that point in view of the fact
that the
order has already gone out. Chairman Eccles added that the
eftltroller did not disagree with that position
but did ask that the
Board
inform him of any further communications received by it from
the
bank and of
any action that the Board decided to take, and that
he
(Chairman Eccles) replied that the Board would keep the Comptroller
advised of
any decisions reached or letters received.
Chairman Eccles then said that he received a telephone call
lest la16ht fO

L. M. Giannini, President of the Bank of America Na-

ti011e1 Trust &
Savings Association, in which the latter inquired how
the benk should
proceed in order to convert into a State institution
84(1 said
that the 1w:ink had asked the Comptroller of the Currency to
4civise if
there were any requirements in connection with conversion
Other than
those contained in the law and that the Comptroller had
replied
that there were none.
At this point Mr. Wyatt said that there
1161"e to
provisions in Federal law relating to the conversion of a natl°11a1 bank
into a State institution and that the national bank would
he/e to go
into voluntary liquidation so far as Federal law was conCernad.

Chat
to

man Eccles also said that Mr. Giannini stated he was

ascertain whether the conversion of the bank could be




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-8accomplished before the expiration of the ninety day period which
rall8t elapse before the report of examination of the bank could be
114bl1shed by the
Comptroller of the Currency, that he wanted to know
11°/1 soon

the Federal Reserve System could make an examination for

the PUrpose of
admission of the bank to membership, if an examination
Wel% r
equired, and that the bay* would want to know in advance whether
its
menthership in the
System would be effective as soon as the conWas made.

Chairman Eccles' reply was that what 16r. Giannini

wazted was
an informal commitment in advance that after certain conditions
were complied with the bank would be acceptable for membership.
ta-so said to
Mr. Giannini that he would discuss that matter with
_,
Boar°' but that as an offhand opinion it would seem to him that

the

11' the blInk vas contemplating conversion it should address a communication
to the Federal
Reserve Bank of San Francisco outlining the national
1)4111os
Proposal and requesting an advance commitment as to whether the
C°11Vert ed.

brinc

ban-,
-- would be acceptable for membership, that this would

something definite before the Board, that the Board could then
detertai
whether it would make an examination before giving an answer
or
vhath
-cr the
examination made by the office of the Comptroller of

the

°Oren
cY would be used for that purpose, and that this procedure
brine
be With

before the Board the whole issue of what its position would

reference
to the national bank.

chairman




Eccles made the further statement that he called Mr.

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-galetnilinit a attention to the fact that the converted bank would have
to get
a license from the Treasury before it could open as a State
bank and that, speaking personally and not as a member of the Board,
it Was his
(Mr. Eccles) suggestion that the bank should try to get to
11 "Int where a program could be worked out that would settle the existing co

ntroversies.

Mr. Giannini's reply was that that was what the

bnak wanted to
do and he would like to know how that could be brought
about and
what the bank could do, that he had talked about conversion
into
a State bank
and had discussed it with the State banking depart-

nlezt
anticipated no difficulty from that source, but that the bank
did not want
to convert into a State institution as that step involved
a
complete transfer
of all of the bank's assets to another bank which
woUld be

difficult and expensive.

In response
to an inquiry from Chairman Eccles as to how the
woUld get a
license as a State institution, Mr. Giannini replied
that

he diA

not

about that.

Chairman Eccles then said that a

Se W "--ku
be necessary unless an existing bank with a license
th
and he inquired if there were a member
bank
it C
alifornia that could do that and Mr. Giannini replied in the
negati ve.
In response to an inquiry from Mr. Giannini why the Board
W°11-1d tot
man examination of the bank and his statement that the
1/41k
vqould have
confidence in such an exgmination as one not accam1411:14ed VY the
prejudice and trouble which accompanied the Comptroller's




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-10Chairman Eccles replied that a complete examination of
the bank wauld very likely
take from four to six months for the
reason that the
Board would have to bring in men who would not be
"ferailier

with the situation as the Comptroller's examiners.

The

e(lavellestion ended, Chairman Eccles said, with a statement by Mr.
'
l /11111.
17ai that he was
going to think some more about conversion.
There followed a discussion by the members of the Board of
the

action that the
Board should take with respect to the request that
it make
an examina
tion of the Bank of America. The staff had not been
able 4_
complete its analysis of the available data and no decision
was
reached by the
Board.
At this
point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Goldenweiser, Dreibelbis

"11G-ardner left
the meeting and the action stated with respect to
each of
the matters hereinafter referr
ed to was then taken by the
tOard:

The

minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

l'ederal
Reserve System held on January 15, 1940, were approved unanittr4sl
y.

Letter to Mr. Hitt, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve B
enk of St. Louis, reading as follows:
"n
letter' accordance with the request contained in your
p„
of January 10, 1940, the Board of Governors api
cras the payment
of a salary to Mr. E. Francis DeVos,
*141" a period of
six months beginning February 28, 1940,
tha rate of 42,400 per annum, which is 600 in excess




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-11-"of the maximum annual salary provided in the personnel
cla
ssification plan of your Bank for the position to which
Mr. DeVos
is temporarily assigned."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated Sanuary 15, 1940, from Mr. $inead, Chief of the
Division of Bank
Operations, submitting a letter dated January 10 from
Mr.
Hitt, First
Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
Mitch
requested approval by the Board of a change in the personnel classification plan of
the Memphis branch or the bank to provide for the
elie"i°11 of the new position of "Accounting Clerk" in the Money DepartZent with
a maximum
salary of 0,500 per annum. The memorandum stated
that the
Proposed change had been reviewed and recommended that it be

4151)1'oved,
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Young, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank

Pt

'cago, reading as
follows:
t

"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Syshas considered the recommendation of the Executive
`Zamittee of your bRnk, contained in your letter of
5, 1940, and, pursuant to the provisions of Sec-t0--9,or
of the Federal Reserve Act, grants permission
to4u"
Side Trust & Savings Bank', Chicago, 11114 8, to
'
maintain the same reserves against net demand
tat
,
) T8 and time deposits as are required to be mains —(41 bY Reserve city banks, effective with the first
the:
weeklY reserve computation period beginning after
uate of this
letter.
tion :Please
advise the member bank of the Board's acthat 11 this matter, calling its attention to the fact
ttme stIch Permission is subject to revocation at any
s
uY the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
Y8tem.n




Approved unanimously.

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-12Memorandum dated January 11, 1940, from Mr. Piser, Senior
c°11c)nlist -n the
Division of Research and Statistics, which was coned in by
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division of Research
and S
tatistics, and which read as follows:
"On my recent visit to New York, Mr. Rouse suggested that it would be of considerable help to him
in
his work as
Manager of the Account to receive some of the
memoranda that I prepare for the Board. He recognizes,
Of
course, that a number of memoranda are for special considerati
on of the Board but feels that there might be some
Which would
give him additional information on the Government securit
y market.
"An example of such memoranda would be the one which
Prepared sane time ago indicating on the basis of current conditi
ons what would appear to be a reasonable level
rOr the
Yield on corporate bonds. In addition, any meMO-nranda
Summarizing past System Account operations might
Present
that would be of use to him. Also, the memTre3Ida that are prepared prior to the meetings with the
areaellrY on Treasury financing might be helpful. Finally,
4.8 an aid in interpreting sentiment throughout the counIY, he would be intere
sted in receiving the reports of
trips which Mr. Edmiston and I make from time to time.
As
e general rule I do not see any objection to sending
reports to him, although under special circumstances
theremight be instances when it would not be desirable to

J

fo
"If it meets with the approval of the Board, there,re) I should like to be permitted generally to send such
Ts!moranda to Mr. Rouse
and to take up with Mr. Goldenweiser
ll'tances where there might be some question."




Approved unanimously.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Chairman.