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A meeting of the Federal Reserve Board was held in the Office of the
Pederal Reserve Board on Friday, February 8, 1929, at 11:15 a. m.
PRESENT:

Governor Young
Mr. Platt
Mr. Hamlin
Mr. Miller
Mr. James
Mr. Cunningham
Mr. Pole
Mr. Noell, Assistant Secretary
Mr. McClelland, Assistant Secretary

The minutes of the meetings of the Federal Reserve Board held on
?ebruary

4, 5 and 7, were read and approved.

4

The Governor presented a telegram received after the close of business

last,
night

from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, reading

48 follows.
"Answering your telegram our Board of Directors still in
session requests me to say that text of our first telegram is
Partly in reply to your letter of February 2nd and..increase in
rate to five per cent was largely brought about by consideration
of your letter. Replying to your second inquiry as to whether
use of reserve credit in brokers loans cannot be controlled without increase in rate we have as yet applied no administrative
measures but believe increase in rate will be helpful. Do you
suEgest any specific administrative measures without increase in
rate. Board will continue in session until ten o'clock tonight.
Please arrange to keep wire open if further communication is
ne
cessar7- 1/
,
The Governor stated that a reply was made to the Dallas bank
tflat it would not be possible to get the Board together and that
tne matter would have to go over until this morning.
Discussion taen ensued with respect to the action of the
Board of Directors of the Dallas bank in voting to establish a
rediscount rate of five per cent on all classes of paper of all
maturities, effective the first business day following that on
which approved by the Board, and the question whether, as a
matter of policy, the increased rate should be approved by the
Board in the light of the position taken in its letter to the
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February 2nd, and its public statement in the morning papers of
February 7th.
Mr. Platt moved that the rate of five per cent established
by the directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas on all
Classes of paper of all maturities be approved, effective
tomorrow February 9th.
Mr. Hamlin moved, as a substitute, taat the matter be laid
on the table, at least until specific answers are received from
the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas to the questions asked in
the Board's letter of February 2nd.
After further discussion, Mr. Hamlin's substitute motion
was put by the chair and carried, Mr. Platt voting "no".
During the discussion of the above matter, the Governor presented
ahcl. the Secretary read a letter dated February 5th from the Governor of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas on the subject of credit conditions in
the eleventh district; together with a detailed memorandum on the subject
hich Governor Talley had prepared for submission to the board of directors
s bank at its meeting yesterday.

The memorandum pointed out, in

111°1'e detail, the tendency of member banks in the eleventh district, referred
to in Chairman Walsh's telegram of yesterday, to borrow at the Federal reserve
bah,.
"4 while maintaining loans on call. Governor Talley called attention in
the memorandum to the fact that the liquidation usual at the first of the
has not taken place and that the average outstanding loans of the
Dail
'as bank, which for the greater part are made to a small number of member
, for January 1929 were $20,575,000, as compared with $4,271,000 for
"
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44111417 1928, and $5,395,000 for January 1927.
Mr. Hamlin moved that the Board advise Governor Talley
that the situation which he describes exists elsewhere, and
suggest that he ask Governor Hardingto advise him how he is
trying to handle the matter in the first district and also
Whether he can be furnished with a copy of the letter to
certain member banks in the first district which Governor
Harding sent to the Board.




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-3Mr. Hemlin's motion was put by the chair and carried, the
members voting as follows:
Mr. Hamlin "aye"
Mr. Miller "eye"
Mr. James "aye"
Mr. Cunningham "aye"
Mr. Pole "aye"
Governor Young "no"
Mr. Platt "no"
A further discussion then ensued during wnicn it was suggested
that it might be advisable to hold a conference of all Governors
of the Federal reserve banks here next week for the purpose
of discussing the situation in the various districts, and the
methods being employed by the various Federal reserve banks
in an effort to control the abuse of their credit facilities
by member banks.
It was the consensus of opinion that such a procedure would
be inadvisable and that the Board should await replies from
the boards of directors of the Federal reserve banks to the
Inquiries made in its letter of February 2nd.
Mr. Haglin suggested that the Board request Governor Harding's
Permission to furnish all Federal reserve banks with a copy of
his letter to member banks in the first district.
He moved reconsideration of the motion previously mene by

Carried.
He then moved that, if Governor Harding has no objection,
the Board send a copy of his letter to all Federal reserve banks.
No action on this motion was taken as Mr. Hamlin requested
that it be laid on the table for further consideration.
Mr. Cunningham then referred to the motion made by him at the meeting
°t the
Board on January 19th, regarding an amendment to Section 4 of the
eral Reserve Act, and submitted the following resolution with the request
copies thereof be furnished to each member of the Board before action
"tiken

thereon.

Mr. James stated that, should the matter come up for consideration
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his absence, he wished to be recorded as endorsing the resolution.




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"BE IT RESOLVED, That; the Federal Reserve Board recommend
to Congress enactment of the following Bill as an amendment to
Section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act:
A BILL
To amend Section 13 of the Federal Reserve
Act and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled, That Section
13 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, (Section 343, Title
12, United States Code) be further amended by inserting therein,
Immediately after the second paragraph thereof, a new paragraph
reading as follows:
'Except with the permission of the Federal Reserve
Board, granted upon the affirmative vote of not less than
five members of said Board, no member bank shall be permitted to borrow from, or rediscount with, any Federal
reserve bank while such member bank hs loans outstanding to, or holds the notes, drafts or bills of exchange
of, any person, firm, partnership, corporation or association, or the agent or representative of any person,
firm, partnership, corporation or association, whose
principal business it is to deal in, or to negotiate purchases or sales of, stocks, bonds, or other investment
securities (except bonds and notes of the Government of
the United States), either for itself or for the account
of others; Provided, however, That notwithstanding the
provisions of this paragraph, a member bank may, subject
to such rules, regulations, limitations, restrictions,
and conditions as may be prescribed by the Federal Reserve Board, borrow from, or rediscount with, a Federal
Reserve Bank for temporary periods in emergencies, in
order to restore its lawful reserve when such reserve
has been depleted through extraordinary circumstances."
Platt, Chairman of the Committee on Examinations, then submitted
4
'PPlication of the Peoples Savings and Trust Company of Pittsburgh, Penn.,
Membership in the Federal reserve system and for 7,800 shares of stock
14 ft
"" Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. He referred to a letter dated
4'14111 rY 28th from the Chairman of the Cleveland Bank, transmitting copy
4 letter from the President of the applicant bank, calling attention

tott
"pest policy of the institution with respect to acquiring stock,
to the extent of control, in other banks in Pittsburgh and the immediate
/qe14.

ltY, and inquiring whether membership can be granted without the impo-




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ilition of the condition of membership now being imposed by the Board under
einaation H, Series of 1928, that "Except after applying for and receiving
the

permission of the Federal Reserve Board, such bank or trust company shall

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acquire

an interest in any otaer bank or trust company through the

Ik
rthase of stock in such other bank or trust company."
Mr. Platt recommended either that the condition of
membership in question be waived or, if imposed, that the
applicant bank be advised that the condition is not to
be interpreted as an effort to prohibit tne purchase of
stock in another bank, even to the extent of acquiring
control, in all circumstances.
Several members of the Board expressed objection to
any waiver of the condition, and the Governor requested
Mr. Platt to prepare and submit to the Board this afternoon a proposed letter to the applicant bank, setting
forth his ideas as to the proper interpretation of the
condition.
Mr. James then referred to the fact that the Board has not yet
44ea Upon the 1929 salaries fixed by the directors of the Federal Reserve
of New York for Mr. Ti. W. Schneckenburger, Managing Director of the
Xalo Branch, and Mr. Carl Snyder, Statistician, on which action was deat the meeting on January 11th.

He stated that the salary proposed

Mr. Schneckenburger would put the position of Managing Director at the
kq't
a4.0 Branch out of line with other branches and that he could not justify
44rova1 of the proposed salary.
Mr. James moved that the salary of $18,000 per annum
recommended for Mr. Schneckenburger be disapproved and that
the directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York be
advised that the Board will approve for Mr. Schneckenburger
for the year 1929, the same salary paid him during the
year 1928, namely, $15,000.
Mr. James' motion, being put by the chair, was
carried, Er. Platt voting "no."




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-6Mr. Hamlin then moved that the salary of $12,000 per annum
recommended by the New York directors for Mr. Carl Snyder,
Statistician, be approved.
Mr. Hamlin's motion, being put by the chair, was lost,
the members voting as follows:

Mr. Platt "aye"
Mr. Hamlin "aye"
Governor Young "no"
Mr. Miller "no"
Mr. James no
Mr. Cunningham "no"
Mr. Pole "no"
Mr. Cunningham moved that the directors of the New York Bank
be advised that the Board will approve for Mr. Snyder for the
year 1929, the same salary paid him during 1928, namely $11,000.
Mr. Cunningham's motion, being put by the chair, was carried,
Mr. James voting "no".
At 2:00 p. m. the meeting recessed and reconvened at 3:30 p. m.,
same members being present as attended the morning session with the
f1141ation of Messrs. James and Pole.
Letter dated February 7th from the Secretary of the Federal Reserve
of New York; telegram dated February 6th from the Chairman of the
?e,ter
41 Reserve Bank of Philadelphia; telegram dated February 8th from the
ecetary of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland; telegram dated February
t/If
'rom the Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta; telegram
tilted
- Rebruary 6th from the Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank
st.
Louis enfl telegram dated February 7th from the Chairman of the
?ter
41 Reserve Bank of San Francisco, all advising that their boards of
(14eQto
-rs, at meetings on the dates stated, made no changes in the banks'
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schedules of rates of discount and purchase.
Noted.

Reports of Committee on Salaries and Expenditures on lists submitted




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bythe Federal Reserve Banks of St. Louis and Dallas of employees for whom
the directors of those banks approved leaves of absence with pay, on account
q illness, during the month of January in excess of thirty days; the
haali s Committee recommending approval of the salary payments involved.
Approved..
Report of Executive Committee on memorandum dated February 2nd from
the Acting Comptroller of the Currency, recommending approval of an
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plication of the First National Bank of Davis, Oklahoma, for permission to
4cI1lee its capital from $50,000 to $30,000, on condition that no money be
4tIlrned to the shareholders, but that the amount of the reduction be used
to remove $20,000 of objectionable assets listed in the memorandum, which
4te to be trusteed for the benefit of shareholders on the date of the reion; the Boarils Committee recommending approval subject to the
e°41itions suggested by the Acting Comptroller.
Approved.
Memorandum from Counsel dated February 5th submitting application of
,
the‘
4atlonal City Bank of New York for permission to establish a branch
00 City, Republic of Mexico; Counsel stating that the application
4exi
14111 proper form and that he knows of no legal reason why it should not
be

eranted.

The Secretary also submitted a memorandum from the Comptroller

(Itthe Currency advising that he knows of no reason why the Board should not
"the application, if it wishes to do so.
Upon motion, the following was adopted and ordered spread
Upon the minutes, Mr. Cunningham voting "no".
1, "THE NATIONAL CITY BANK OF NEW YORK, having on or about February 2,
filed an application with this Board for the purpose of obtaining
'IthA)rity to establish a Branch in MEXICO CITY, REPUBLIC OF MEXICO, and
4e said Application having been considered; and it appearing that the




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said Application is properly made under the laws of the United States
. of America and should be granted, NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS
ORDERED, that the said Application be and it hereby is approved,
and that the said Bank be and it hereby is authorized to establish
a Branch in MEXICO CITY, REPUBLIC OF nuno.11
Memorandum dated February 6th from the Chief of the Division of Bank
°Peretions, submitting statements of expenditures by the Federal reserve
for educational and welfare work, etc., during the month of December
41(1 luring the year 1928.
Ordered circulated.
Memorandum dated February 5th from the Secretary's Office, advising
thet the weekly bulletin of the New York State Banking Department dated
1°6113-ary 1, 1929, announced that the Equitable Trust Company of New York, a
44 er bank, has been authorized to establish an additional branch office in
)th
° City of Paris, France.
Referred to Counsel.
Matter approved on initials on February 6th, namely, telegram
444 February 6th from the Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at St. Louis,
v't.esting March 14th as the date for opening the polls in a special election
4 Class B director to succeed Mr. Rolla Wells, recently appointed Class

OA:
Irector, Chairman and Federal Reserve Agent.
'
Formally approved.
Letter dated January 29th from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve
of San Francisco, advising of the resignation of Mr. C. E. McBroom,
Otie

clf the bank's appointees to the directorate of the Spokane Branch.
Noted.
Memorandum from Counsel dated February 4th, submitting draft of

41,1

"Y to letter dated January 19th from the Mississippi Valley Trust Co.,




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Louis, Missouri, inquiring whether sight and demand drafts, documentary

411fts, bonds and coupons forwarded for collection may be included among
401111ats due from banks, and, accordingly, deducted from amounts due to banks
ill eomputing reserves; the proposed reply, prepared in accordance with previous
t1Llings of the Board, advising that such items may not be included as balances
4rom banks, except in case of an agreement by the correspondent bank to
immediate credit.
Upon motion, the letter submitted by Counsel was approved.
Memorandum from Counsel dated February 1st submitting draft of
letter to Mr. James F. Toy advising that service by him as a member of
tile Advisory Board of the Toy National Bank, Sioux City, Iowa, as outlined
t4 a letter addressed to the Board under date of Janus,ry 23rd, does not
cleae within the prohibitions of the Clayton Act.
Upon motion, the proposed letter was approved.
Memorandum from Counsel dated February 6th, submitting draft of

le

tter to the Vice President of the Continental National Bank and Trust

°)any,

Chicago, Illinois, ruling that pecans in tne snell are not to be re-

as readily marketable staples and that bankers' acceptances secured
Warehouse receipts conveying or securing title covering such pecans do
kot

comply with the provisions of Section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act, and
Board's regulations pursuant thereto, as to eligibility for rediscount
- Federal Reserve Banks; the letter stating that, from information received

the Board, it appears clearly that pecans in the shell are not the subject
%astant dealings in ready markets nor easy to realize upon by sale at
time, as required by the Board's definition of a readily marketable




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Upon motion, the ruling contained in the above letter was
adopted and the letter approved.
Memorandum from Counsel dated February 5th submitting draft of letter
to the Attorney General of the United States, transmitting report received from
tile Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at Philadelphia of an apparent violation
f the Act of May 24, 1926, by certain advertisements of tae United Strength
114111c and Trust Company of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; together with a letter
to ,
4
""e Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at Philadelphia, requesting that he
the matter to the local United States Attorney.
Upon motion, the letters submitted by Counsel were approved.
Memorpndum from Counsel dated February 7th, with reference to charter
1:11'llted by the
Banking Commissioner of the State of Maryland for an institutico,
ln Baltimore to be known as the "United States Trust Company of Maryland";
-"el stating that the Attorney for the proposed institution called upon
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44a advised that their attention had not been called to the Act of May 24,
1926
that application would be made immediately for a change of title and
Mat ,
Ole words "United States" would be eliminated from the title before
the b
ank opens for business. In his memorandum, Counsel stated that, in the

'
stances, he believes it unnecessary to report the matter to the Departr4ellt of
- Justice as it is only a technical violation of law, committed
unt
Noted.
MemormduM from Counsel dated January 22nd submitting, in accordance
motion by Mr. CunningAam adopted at the meeting on January 19th,
la`l'Ettt of
-- a bill to amend Section 4 of the Federal Reserve Act so as to provide
that:




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-11"Except with the permission of the Federal Reserve
Board, granted upon the affirmative vote of not less than five
members of said Board, no member bank shall be permitted to
borrow from, or rediscount with, any Federal reserve bank, for
a period exceeding three days within any consecutive thirty
days, while such member bank has loans outstanding to, or holds
the notes, drafts or bills of exchange of, any person, firm,
Partnership, corporation or association, or the agent or
representative of any person, firm, partnership, corporation
or association, whose principal business it is to deal in, or
to negotiate purchases or sales of, stocks, bonds, or other
investment securities, either for itself or for the account
of others."
In view of the resolution submitted by him at the
morning session to amend Section 13 of the Act, Mr.
Cunningham moved that the above matter be laid on the
table.
Carried.
Mr. Platt then referred to the consideration at the morning session

"ge application for membership in the Federal reserve system and for
/180m

Shares of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland by the

l'143158 Savings and Trust Company, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
He moved that the application be approved subject to the
regular conditions of membership, but that the following additional
Paragraph be inserted in the Board's usual form of advice:
"Condition No. 3 above (referred to in Mr. Robinson's
letter of January 25th to Mr. DeCamp) is not to be interpreted
as an effort to prohibit the purchase of stock in another
bank, even to the extent of acquiring control, in all
circumstances. The Board considers each request on its
merits, and in case of a request for further purchases
by your bank, would doubtless take into account the fact
that your bank has carried out this policy successfully
for a number of years, to the apparent advantage, as Mr.
DeCamp informs us, of the outlying banks, whose stock you
hold, as well as to the advantage of your own bank. The
Board does not believe that Mr. Robinson is warranted in
his belief that the requirement of permission before
purchasing stock would necessarily operate to prevent the
acquisition of any further banks or bank stock."




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Mr. Cunningham moved as a substitute that the application be
approved subject to the regular conditions of membership as set
aut in the Board's Regulation H.
A detailed discussion then ensued with respect to the proper
interpretation of tne condition of membership being imposed under
Regulation H, Series of 1928, that - "Except after applying for
and receiving the permission of the Federal Reserve Board, such
bank or trust Company shall not acquire an interest in any other
bank or trust co.-.pany, through the purchase of stock in such
Other bank or trust company."
Mr. Vest, the Board's Assistant Counsel, was called into the
meeting and stated that, in his opinion, the mere fact that the
condition of membership was included in Regulation H indicates
doubt on the part of the Board as to the advisability of member
banks acquiring stock in other banks.
It was pointed out that at the time Regulation H, Series of
1928, was adopted, the Board was considering the question of
cnain banking within the Federal reserve system and the condition
in question was formulated as a means of control over that
development.
question was raised as to the legality of the condition Whether it is one "pursuant to" the Federal Reserve Act.
Attention was called to a statement contained in a letter addressed
under date of May 18, 1927 to the Chairman of the Committee on
Banking and Currency of the House of Representatives, that the
Board appears to be witnout authority to impose such a condition,
as Section 9, as amended by the McFadden Act, provides that the
Board may permit state banks to become members of the Federal
Reserve System, subject to the provisions of the Federal Reserve
Act "and such conditions as it may prescribe pursuant thereto."
In this letter to Congressman McFadden it was stated that,
as there is no provision in the Federal Reserve Act which seems
expressly or by necessary implication to authorize the imposition
Of a condition of membership designed to control or prohibit
chain banking among state member banks, the Federal Reserve Board
would be unable, in the future, to prescribe such a condition.
At the conclusion of the discussion, action was deferred
On the motions before the Board regarding the application of
the Peoples Savings and Trust Company of Pittsburgh, and Mr.
Vest was requested to study and report to the Board on the
question of the legality of the condition of membership, which
the applicant bank requests the Board to waive.




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a
lg:PORTq

STANDING.
5th
Dated, February 6th,
7th,
8th,
Dat ed.,
February 4th,

Dated, February
4th,

rlat ed.,
February 5th,

Dated.,

ebruary 7th,

Recommending changes in stock at Federal Reserve Banks,
as set forth in the Auxiliary Minute Book of this date.
Recommendations approved.
Recommending action on an application for fiduciary
powers as set forth in the Auxiliary Minute Book of
this date.
Recommendation approved.
Recommending approval of the application of Mr.
S. J. T. Straus, for permission to serve at the same
time as director of the Straus National Bank and
Trust Co., New York, N. Y., as director and officer
of the Straus National Bank and Trust Company,
Chicago, Ill., and as director and officer of the
Franklin Trust and Savings Bank, Chicago, Ill.
Approved
Recommending approval of the application of Mr,
Paul Shoup, for permission to serve at the same time
as director of the Anglo-California Trust Co., San
Francisco, as director of the Anglo & London Paris
National Bank, San Francisco, Cal., and as director
of the First National Bank, Los Altos, California.
Approved.
Recommending approval of the application of Las. W. B.
Young, for permission to serve at the srme time as
director of the Commerce Union Bank, Nashville, Tenn.,
and as director of the First National Bank, Sparta,
Tenn.
Approved.
The meeting adjourned at 5:00 p. m.

Assistant Secretary
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Governor.