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Minutes for February 25, 1965.

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
Initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Thursday, February 25, 1965.

The Board met in the Board

Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mitchell
Daane
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board and Director,
Division of International Finance
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Brill, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Holland, Associate Director, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Goodman, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Smith, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of
the Secretary
Mr. Ring, Technical Assistant, Division of
Bank Operations
Messrs. Goodfellow and Poundstone, Review Examiners, Division of Examinations

Cincinnati Branch building (Item No. 1).

The Board had had

a series of discussions of proposals looking toward construction of
a new building for the Cincinnati Branch, for which the Federal Reserve

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Bank of Cleveland proposed to buy land in the Core Renewal Area of
Cincinnati.

After discussion on February 8, 1965, the Board felt

that the Cleveland Bank should explore the possibility of acquiring
a site with a minimum of 90,000 square feet to allow adequate space
for lateral expansion if needed; the property the Bank had proposed
to acquire contained 45,784 square feet.

Mr. Farrell subsequently

visited Cincinnati, at the Board's request, for personal discussion
of the matter.

In a letter of February 23, 1965, which had been dis-

tributed, the Cleveland Bank indicated that it appeared possible to
acquire a second parcel of land adjoining the site originally proposed,
the combined area totaling 58,394 square feet.

The Bank requested the

Board's approval of making an offer to the City of Cincinnati to purchase the parcels at a cost expected to fall between $12 and $18 a
square foot.
At the Board's request Mr. Farrell reported on his recent
conferences with Chairman Hall and officers of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Cleveland, and with a representative of the City Planning
Commission of Cincinnati.

He (Mr. Farrell) displayed a map on which

he pointed out various properties surrounding the proposed Branch site
and discussed their possible availability.

One such property was not

included in the redevelopment program, and therefore it was not to be
expected that it could be purchased at the low price at which the proPosed primary site was being offered.

He had gotten the impression,

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for reasons he cited, that Chairman Hall felt that local authorities
might be persuaded to sell to the Cleveland Bank as much property as
was considered necessary for a new Branch building.

However, Mr.

Farrell had also heard comments that conflicted with this impression.
It had been mentioned, for example, that it might be difficult to
acquire more land in the Core Renewal Area than was needed for actual
building because one of the City's objectives in the redevelopment
Project was improvement of tax revenues.
Governor Mitchell commented on the desirability of establishing clearer guidelines for planning buildings on the basis of projected
needs.

The Board, on the basis of its experience with 36 locations,

was in a better position to judge future needs than were the local
boards with their more limited experience.

He believed that a program

for a new Cincinnati Branch building should start with a search for a
Plot of ground of as much as 100,000 square feet, which would allow
ample space for possible future needs.
Governor Balderston expressed the view that while the Board
Should hold firm as to the need to provide for future expansion, and
for adequate vault space, the philosophy of decentralization of authority would argue for leaning upon the Cleveland and Cincinnati Boards as
much as was feasible.

The local boards in the System felt excluded

from many matters relating to monetary policy, and it would seem that
the Board should go as far as it could in good conscience to let them

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work out problems about physical plants, as to which they had both
keen interest and competence.
Governor Mills commented on present and planned use of areas
adjoining the proposed Branch site, and expressed concern lest the
Federal Reserve, after locating in the Redevelopment Area, should
then be stranded if plans for improvement of nearby property were
abandoned.

He had observed that local boards were sometimes swayed

too much by civic considerations at the expense of regard for cost.
It seemed to him that the Board's general supervision of the System
carried with it some responsibility to resist over-emphasis on civic
betterment.
Further discussion centered upon study of the map displayed,
the likelihood of being able to purchase particular pieces of property,
the adequacy and efficiency of different combinations of properties
for Branch use, and the feasibility of bidding for certain pieces of
Property on condition that other pieces also could be acquired.
At the conclusion of the discussion it was agreed to inform
the Cleveland Bank that the Board did not regard the area (58,394
81111are feet) of the land it wished to buy as adequate for future exPansion, and that the Bank was authorized to make a firm offer for
that land only if it was possible to expand the property to be acquired
t° a total ranging from 75,000 to 95,000 square feet.

A copy of the

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letter conveying this view to the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
is attached as Item No. 1.
Mr. Holland then withdrew and Mr. Broida, Assistant Secretary,
joined the meeting.
Allocation of System Open Market Account.

Pursuant to action

by the Board on October 7, 1964, a letter was sent to the Presidents
of all Federal Reserve Banks on October 16 asking for comments on a
Proposed procedure for settling Interdistrict Settlement Fund clearings through security holdings rather than through gold certificate
holdings.

The procedure, which had been suggested primarily to sim-

Plify the task of avoiding deficiencies in the reserves the Reserve
Banks were required by statute to hold against their deposit and note
liabilities, was set forth in a memorandum dated April 10, 1964, from
the Division of Bank Operations.
There had now been distributed a memorandum dated February 23,
1965, from the Division of Bank Operations reporting that six of the
Federal Reserve Banks had favored or had no objection to the suggested
Procedure, five Banks had opposed it, and one (Richmond) had stated
that before giving its endorsement it would like assurances that the
settlements would not create problems with respect to securities
Pledged against Federal Reserve notes.

The memorandum

expressed the

view that the note collateral problems sometimes faced by the Richmond
Bank (and also by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston) could not be

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improved through System Account adjustment measures because such
measures did not alter the combined level of a Bank's holding of
gold certificates and securities.

The problems would, however, be

remedied by pending legislation that would remove the 25 per cent
gold certificate reserve requirement for Federal Reserve Bank deposit liabilities.

(Note:

That legislation was signed by the Pres-

ident on March 3, 1965, as Public Law 89-3.)

The memorandum examined

the objections expressed by five of the Reserve Banks and concluded
that most if not all of them were either attributable to misunderstanding or susceptible to rather easy solution within the framework
Of the proposed plan for settlement in securities.

It was understood

that, in the light of the pending legislation, the Manager of the
System Open Market Account would suggest at the forthcoming meeting
of the Federal Open Market Committee the need for a comprehensive
review of the procedures for allocating securities in the Account.
While the purpose of such a review would be to minimize the frequency
of reallocations, even with the passage of the proposed legislation
sPecial reallocations would be necessary ocassionally as long as
daily clearings were settled in gold certificates.

Procedures for

clearing through the securities account would be even more effective
in reducing the need for reallocations and special adjustments if the
new legislation was passed than had been expected when the plan was

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first proposed.

The memorandum concluded by offering several alternatives

for the Board's consideration:
(1) The Board might wish to drop the whole
matter because half of the Banks had raised
questions, despite the fact that most of their
objections would appear to be easily solved;
(2) It might be suggested to the Presidents'
Conference that the idea seemed to have enough
merit for further consideration by an appropriate subcommittee or by an ad hoc conference
of accounting representatives of the Reserve
Banks;
(3) The Board might wish to suggest that the
Open Market Committee's review of reallocation
procedures include full consideration of the
security clearings proposal as one possible
alternative to a formula for periodic reallocations;
(4) The Board might wish to inform the Reserve
Banks that it was inclined to adopt the arrangement, modified to meet most of the objections
previously raised, and ask if they had any further objections.
Mr. Farrell commented on the alternatives that had been suggested and upon the increased effectiveness of the proposed procedure
that was expected to result from the anticipated removal of the present
statutory reserve requirement against deposit liabilities of Reserve
Banks.

With the release of pressure from that requirement, the gold

certificate holdings of the Reserve Banks could be allocated in such
a way as to provide a cushion for each Bank above its requirement,
and there might not be need for reallocation for as long as a year.

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It was understood that the Manager of the System Account, in recommending
a review of the over-all subject at the forthcoming meeting of the
Federal Open Market Committee, would suggest continuance of the present procedure pending such review, but with reallocations to be made
monthly rather than weekly.

In the course of the review, since the

statutory reserve requirement was expected no longer to present an
urgent problem, the System might want to consider other bases of allocation that might give greater emphasis to an equitable distribution of earning assets among the Reserve Banks.
Governor Daane expressed general concurrence with the alternative under which it would be suggested that the Open Market Committee's review of reallocation procedures include consideration of
the proposal for settlement in securities rather than in gold certificates.

He asked whether there was objection to this alternative,

and Mr. Farrell replied that he saw none, unless members of the Board
had some basic objection.
Governor Mitchell asked if present circumstances might not
Present a favorable climate for seeking substitution of a single issue
of Federal Reserve notes for the issues of the individual Reserve
Banks.

If the System's entire holdings of gold certificates were

Placed against a single issue, there would be no immediate problem
of reserve deficiencies.

The problem could arise again, however, if

there should be a further substantial loss of gold.

As he recalled,

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some opinion had been expressed within the Reserve Banks in favor of
a single issue in the one dollar denomination.

In view of the advan-

tages of a single issue in terms of money saved and simplicity of
System operations, it appeared to Governor Mitchell that the arguments
in favor of multiple issues were not persuasive.
Governor Mills remarked that although from the standpoint of
Pure logic he believed Governor Mitchell was correct, he (Governor Mills)
had always been disinclined to counter the prevailing view among the
Reserve Bank Presidents that the imprint of the individual Bank's name
on its notes preserved the identity of the Reserve Banks and the regional character of the System.
Governor Robertson commented that although the proposal for
a single issue of Federal Reserve notes had in the past failed to win
System approval, he believed it was a move that must be made sometime,
and the sooner the better.

A single issue would save money and be

more efficient, and in his view the risk of injuring a Reserve Bank's
Prestige by not having its name on Federal Reserve notes was de minimis.
He thought that few people took note of this factor.
Governor Shepardson said he had essentially the same feeling.
It appeared to him that a big price was being paid to maintain the
separate note issues, for very little purpose.
Chairman Martin asked if it was the sense of the Board that
the question be raised again with the Conference of Presidents with

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an indication that the Board's thinking was tending in the direction
of favoring a single note issue.
Governor Daane agreed that at some point the Board should
come out in favor of a single note issue, but he questioned whether
this was the best time.

It might be useful to take up the question

With the Presidents.
Further discussion reflected a consensus in favor of renewing
With the Presidents the question of a single issue of Federal Reserve
notes, and it was understood that this would be done.
Messrs. Young, Daniels, Smith, and Ring then withdrew from
the meeting.
Bank holding company legislation.

At its meeting on February 8,

1965, the Board decided, in connection with its legislative program,
that instead of recommending a short bill covering only major changes
in the Bank Holding Company Act, it would be preferable to recommend
a comprehensive bill along the lines suggested in the Board's 1958
Special Report to the Congress, with certain features added that had
developed out of recent discussions.

Accordingly, the Legal Division

had prepared such a draft bill, which, with an explanatory memorandum
and a revised draft of transmittal letter to the Banking and Currency
Committees of Congress, was distributed with a memorandum from the
Oivision dated February 23, 1965.

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After discussion the Board approved the draft bill, transmittal
letter, and explanatory memorandum, to be sent to the Congress when
other components of the Board's legislative program were transmitted.
Messrs. Hexter, O'Connell, Goodman, Goodfellow, and Poundstone
then withdrew from the meeting.
Record of Board's 1964 policy actions.

There had been distrib-

uted a memorandum dated February 23, 1965, with which Mr. Sherman submitted draft entries for the Board's Annual Report covering policy
actions taken during 1964.
Governor Daane suggested certain changes in the entry covering
th e Board's actions on November 23, 1964, regarding Federal Reserve
discount rates and maximum rates of interest payable under Regulation Q,
Payment of Interest on Deposits.

However, several of the members of

the Board indicated a need for additional time to study certain of
the entries, and action was therefore deferred.
Governor Mills stated that since he would not be present when
the policy record was discussed at greater length, he wished to record
his general approval of the entries.

He had been a dissenter from the

action on December 16, 1964, through which the surplus accounts of the
Federal Reserve Banks were to be maintained at a level equal to paid-in
capital (rather than subscribed capital).

Although the statement of

his dissent included with the draft entry for the policy record reported
his position sufficiently for that purpose, he wished to express his

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continuing concern that such action, by tending to weaken the over-all
corporate structure of the Federal Reserve Banks, paved the way for
possible future threats of nationalization if there should come a
time when the Reserve Banks experienced financial difficulties and
assistance had to be provided to them by the Federal Government.

If

such circumstances should arise, a basis would be laid for the claim
that, since the Federal Reserve System had to be resuscitated out
of the public purse, there was little reason why it should not be
made part of the Executive Branch of the Government.
Governor Mills.

It was noted that this would be the last

who had submitted to
Board meeting to be attended by Governor Mills,
the President his resignation to be effective at the end of this
e in the associations he
month, and he expressed his personal pleasur
had enjoyed for many years with the members of the Board and its staff.
nts on behalf of himself
Chairman Martin responded with similar sentime
and the other members of the Board.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: Subsequent to the meeting
the members of the Board approved the sending
of a letter to Governor Mills indicating that
the Board had authorized presentation to him
of the Board Room chair that he had used since
becoming a member of the Board in 1952.
Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf
of the Board the following items:

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Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago (attached Item No. 2)
approving the appointment of Gordon L. McConnell as assistant examiner.
Memoranda recommending the following actions relating to the
Board's staff:
Salary increases

effective February 28

1965

Eva Louise Jarvis, Minutes Clerk, Office of the Secretary, from
$4,140 to $4,480 per annum.
Jo Ann Cannada, Secretary, Division of Research and Statistics,
from $5,000 to $5,165 per annum.
Frank de Leeuw, Economist, Division of Research and Statistics,
from $14,660 to $15,150 per annum.
Jill D. Francis, Statistical Clerk, Division of Research and
Statistics, from $4,480 to $4,630 per annum.
Lula B. Bierly, Clerk, Division of International Finance, from
$4,780 to $4,930 per annum.
Geraldine M. Venable, Clerk-Cashier, Cafeteria, Division of
Administrative Services, from $4,555 to $4,680 per annum.
Susie T. Oros, Senior Accounting Technician, Office of the Controller, from $8,170 to $8,690 per annum, with a change in title to
Senior Accountant.
Louis Zeller, Digital Computer Programmer, Division of Data
Processing, from $7,465 to $8,650 per annum, with a change in title
to Digital Computer Prograuuter Supervisor.
Transfer
Petronella Maria van der Vossen, from the position of Stenographer in the Division of Personnel Administration to the position
of Stenographer in the Office of the Secretary, with no change in
basic annual salary at the rate of $4,005, effective February 28, 1965.
Governor Shepardson today noted on behalf
of the Board a memorandum from the Division
of Administrative Services advising that

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-14Lloyd F. White, Chauffeur in that Division,
had made application for disability retirement, effective at the close of business
March 9, 1965.

Item No. I
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

February 25, 1965.
Mr. W. Braddock Hickman, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland,
Cleveland, Ohio. 44101.
Dear Mr. Hickman:
This refers to your letter of February 23, 1965,
requesting that the Board authorize the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland to make a firm offer to the City of Cincinnati to
purchase the complete "B2 area" in the Cincinnati "Core Project"
at a price not to exceed $18.00 per square foot. Your letter
indicates that the "B2 area" contains approximately 58,000 square
feet and includes the parcel originally under consideration plus
a strip of land approximately 60 feet wide adjoining that property to the west and presently included in the Core Project plan
as a pedestrian plaza.
When the Board last considered on February 8, 1965, a
Possible new site for the Cincinnati Branch, the proposal
excluded the pedestrian plaza area and contemplated a plot containing about 45,000 square feet. As you were informed in a
subsequent telephone conversation, the Board felt that a plot of
that size did not leave enough room for such lateral expansion
as may be needed in the future, and suggested that a plot suitable
for this purpose should contain somewhere between 90,000 and
100,000 square feet, so that the original building would not
occupy more than 50 per cent of the total plot. It is understood
tnat Mk. Farrell discussed the Board's views on this matter during
his meeting in Cincinnati on February 19 with Messrs. Hall,
Morrison, and Kiel.
Upon further review of the matter, the Board feels that
the increase in the proposed plot size from 45,784 square feet
to 58,394 square feet, as proposed in your letter of February 23,
Still does not fully provide for future expansion. Accordingly,
the Board authorizes your Bank to make a firm offer to the City
of Cincinnati for the "complete B2 area" only if it is possible
to expand the property to be acquired to a total area ranging
from 75,000 to 95,000 square feet. The Board suggests that a
Plot of this size might be obtained by adding to the "complete
B2 area" either--

Mk-. W. Braddock Hickman

(a) The property now occupied by the Emery Building
and the Mercantile Library Building extending
northward on Walnut Street from Fourth Street,
which it is understood would result in the total
plot containing between 75,000 and 80,000 square
feet.
The property on Fifth Street, which it is understood is now earmarked for the Transit Company
in the redevelopment plan and which it is also
understood contains about 35,000 square feet. On
this basis the total Federal Reserve plot would
be in the neighborhood of 90,000 square feet.
The Board recognizes that the property mentioned in
alternative (a) above is not presently included in the redevelopment plan and would therefore have to be acquired on the open
market. It believes, however, that moving ahead with the acquisition of the B2 area would be a mistake unless there was firm
assurance that either the Walnut Street property or the Fifth
Street property could be acquired. The Board would like to be
advised of the approximate cost of these latter properties before
any firm commitment is made for their acquisition.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

Item No. 2

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS

orraciAa. CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

February 26, 1965

Mr. Leland M. Ross, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
Chicago, Illinois. 60690
Dear Mr. Ross:
In accordance with the request contained
in your letter of February 19, 1965, the Board
approves the appointment of Gordon L. McConnell as
an assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago. Please advise the effective date of
the appointment.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.