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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System with the Federal Advisory Council was held in the offices of
the Board of Governors in Washington on Tuesday, February 20,
1951,
at 10:30 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

McCabe, Chairman
Eccles
Szymczak
Vardaman
Norton
Powell
Mr. Carpenter, Secretary
Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Messrs. Bucklin, Jackson, Potts, Congdon, Davis,
Brown, Hemingway, Ringland, Beals, Ray, and
Lochead, members of the Federal Advisory
Council from the First, Second, Third, Fourth,
Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth, Tenth, Eleventh,
and Twelfth Federal Reserve Districts, respectively.
Mr. Prochnow, Secretary of the Federal
Advisory Council
President Brown stated that at the separate meeting of the
Pederal Advisory Council preceding this joint meeting, he was
reelected
Pl'esident of the Council, Mr. Fleming, member from the Fifth Federal
lieserve District, was reelected Vice President, and Mr. Prochnow was
reelected Secretary, and that Messrs. Jackson, Potts, and Congdon
were
reelected to serve with the President and Vice President as members of
tlie executive committee of the Council.
Before this meeting the Council submitted to the Board a memosetting forth the Council's views on the subjects to be discussed




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with the Board at this joint meeting.

The statement of the topic,

the Council's views, and the discussion with respect to each of the
subjects were as follows:
1.

A discussion of the effect of Bills S. 514 and
S. 515 if enacted into law.

The loan operations of the Reconstruction Finance
Corporation are essentially similar to those of a bank
with branches. It should have an organizational structure with lines of responsibility clearly drawn and
definitely fixed. The Council believes therefore that
the management of the RFC should be vested in one administrative head, who may have several deputies as
assistants. The Council still believes, as stated in
its Memorandum to the Board on May 16, 1950, in response
to an inquiry from the Board, that the powers and
activities of the RFC should be curtailed rather than
expanded, and that the RFC should be continued as an
independent agency to meet emergency situations and
should not be transferred to the Department of
Commerce.
President Brown stated that since the President had just
announced a reorganization plan which would provide for a single
Administrator for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation along the
lines proposed in the Council's recommendation, it was felt that this
topic could be passed without further discussion.
2.

What are the views of the Council as to the practicable fiscal and monetary actions that should
be taken in the period that lies immediately
ahead to combat inflation and to meet requirements
for defense?

The Council believes the present inflation is due
primarily to reasons other than monetary policies, which
constitute only a part of the entire problem. The fundamental
problem is to maintain confidence in the future purchasing
power of the dollar. Such confidence is now impaired, due
to a widespread belief that wages and consequently prices
will rise, and that firm policies to control wages and
prices will not be adopted or enforced.



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The Council believes that in the period which
lies immediately ahead the following actions should
be taken in the fiscal field:
A.

The enactment of pay-as-you-go tax legislation;

B.

The elimination of unnecessary non-defense
expenditures;

C.

The careful screening of defense expenditures
to avoid waste;

D.

Government loans and guaranties of loans in
all fields, including real estate, should be
terminated, except where such loans are
necessary for the defense effort.

In the purely monetary field the Council believes
that small changes in interest rates will not have
any important effect on the volume of loans made.
The Council believes that the Treasury and the Federal
Reserve System should maintain a flexible attitude toward
the terms and conditions of future Federal financing. It
is obvious, however, that with the large government debt
outstanding a close cooperation between the Federal ReServe System and the Treasury must be maintained so there
may be no fear by the people of a possible severe decline
in the price of government bonds or an impairment of the
credit of the Federal government. Fortunately it now
appears that several months will elapse before the
Treasury will be confronted with heavy refundings (other
than bills) or the need for new money. This interim
gives the Federal Reserve System and the Treasury an
opportunity to work out together a program of cooperation
for the maintenance of government credit which is
essential to the maintenance of public confidence.
The Council believes -A.

Voluntary agreements by financing institutions
should be given the fullest support by the Federal
Reserve System, other government departments and
various banking and other financial associations
concerned with this program.




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B.

Loans required for defense projects or for
necessary civilian production and distribution
should not be restricted. In the present
situation, particularly, a steady increase
in the productive capacity of the economy and
in the gross national product is of vital
importance. Credit for this purpose should
be available.

C.

Steps should be taken to place as much as is
possible of the government debt outside the
banking system. In this connection the Council
desires to point out that extreme caution
should be used by the Federal Reserve System
in the exercise of its powers pertaining to
significant changes in government bond prices
through open market operations, or changes
in the rediscount rate, or in reserve requirements, to the end that confidence of non-bank
investors in the purchase or holding of
government securities be not disturbed.

President Brown stated that the Council realized that the statement was very much a "middle of the road" position, that it was deliberately made so, and that it was the strong feeling of all of the members
Of the Council that it was imperative that some accommodation be arrived
at between the Board and the Treasury, and in view of the circumstances
arky statement by the Council which attempted to deal with or spell out
'hat should be done or to support the position of the Board on one side
or the Treasury on the other would make such accommodation more difficult.

Re also said that one thing on which all the members of the Council were
agreed was that small changes in interest rates would not stop the
extension of loans by banks or the sale of Government securities in
order to make such loans.




A major change in interest rates which

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would result if the price of Government bonds were dropped 5 or 10
points would restrict the volume of loans, he said, but a fractional
Change resulting in a decline of a point or two in Government bonds
Would not have that result.

He made the further statement that there

was public apprehension on the part of holders of Government securities
and it was the belief of the Council that if these holders felt that
there was any chance of Government securities declining severely in
Price they would dump their holdings on the market and it was
impossible to say what such a situation would do to the economy of the
country.
Chairman McCabe inquired whether the Council felt there should
be any flexibility in the Government security market or whether there
Should be a rigidly supported pattern of rates.

In response to this

and other questions by Chairman McCabe, President Brown stated that
the Council would not favor a fixed pattern of rates, that it was the
Judgment of the Council that the price on long-term restricted bonds
might well be allowed to decline to par, but that on the other band the
difference between par, and par and 22/32ds, was so small that it should

be possible to work out an agreement with the Treasury as to the procedure that should be followed.

Because of the sensitiveness of the

market, he said, when the price of long-term bonds dropped 1/32 it was
Widely circulated that all support was going to be withdrawn.

In these

circumstances, he thought it would be unsafe to let long-term bonds go




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below par, and said that a year or two ago he testified before the
Congress that such action could be taken, that it could have been
taken before the outbreak of hostilities in Korea because public
confidence was such that it would not have been impaired by a
decline below par, but that today conditions were different and it
was his guess that most members of the Council would feel that if the
longest-term restricted bond were permitted to go below par there would
be enormous redemptions of E bonds and panicky selling of other issues.
Re said that it seemed incredible that on the question of whether
bonds should be supported at par or par and 22/32ds, it would not be
Possible to get an agreement between the Treasury and the System.

He

questioned whether a drop in the market price would dry up offerings
Of long-term bonds.

If the offerings of long-term bonds were heavy,

he thought a drop in price of 1/32 or 1/8 probably would only serve
to accelerate the volume of offerings.
Mr. Congdon expressed the view that the decisions of the Open
Market Committee should be based on careful judgment of the market at

the time, that one of the reasons for the present selling of long terms
the apprehension of the outcome of the present discussions between

the Treasury and the Board, and that if that matter could be settled
8°1
"of the selling might dry up.

As to the point at which investors of

trust funds, endowment and pension funds, and other investors of that
v.Fe might come in




to the market and whether they would come in more

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readily at par than at par and 22/32ds, President Brown expressed the view
that a decline to par would not increase investments from this source,
that if the price were dropped below par such investors might come in,
but that on the other hand it was possible that the volume of fear
selling would offset any buying from these sources.
In response to an inquiry by Chairman McCabe whether the Council
felt that in the light of conditions as they are today it would be
Preferable to hold the present support level on long-term bonds rather
than to drop to a lower level, Mr. Potts stated that while a majority
Of the Council felt that way it was his personal view that in order to
control the situation prices of bonds should be dropped if necessary
below par, that if pressure on the market continued prices should be
allowed to go to, say, 98 where they could be held to see if at that
Point the market would level off and confidence would be regained.
It was not his thought that it would be possible to hold at that point
but that it might be necessary to go to a lower figure, and that it
Illight be that 95 would be the point at which the market would support
itself.

Mr. Lochead stated that he shared Mr. Potts' views.
Following a discussion of whether such a policy as proposed

by Mr. Potts, if adopted, should be announced and how it might be carried
Ql1t) Mr. Jackson stated that during World War II it was not the exof bank loans that brought about the damaging inflation but

the monetization of the public debt, and that a policy of further




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purchases of Government securities by the banking system would promote
the most damaging kind of inflation that we could have in this country.
He also said that one of the things that was causing the difficulty
in the market at the present time was the differences between the
Treasury and the Board, that these differences were upsetting the market
and causing it to notice a change of as much as 1/32, and that while
he felt there should be flexibility it was important that no action
be taken which would destroy confidence in the market or the ability
to place bonds in the hands of nonbank investors.

He felt that a joint

statement on policy would do more to stabilize the market than anything
else that could be done.

While he agreed with Mr. Potts completely,

he felt that a policy of support had been followed so long that a decline
in price of the long-terms would be very disturbing.

On the other

hand, he recognized that it was not possible to operate within 1/32.
In response to an inquiry from Chairman McCabe as to what should
be the policy of the System in the light of the January 18 speech of

the Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Jackson said he would make one more
trY to convince the Treasury that it is completely unrealistic to
°Perate the market without a variation of as much as 1/32.
Chairman McCabe pressed his question as to what the policy of

the System should be in the present situation, stating that the Open
Market Committee was in frequent consultation vith the Treasury and

there was no lack of desire on its part to discuss the matter with




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the Treasury.

Mr. Jackson responded that he would try again to reach

an agreement with the Treasury before he abandoned the present procedure.
He expressed the view that every effort should be made to get an agreeMent with the Treasury and if that failed the System would have to decide
the course that it would follow.

After a further series of questions,

Chairman McCabe stated that he was asking the Federal Advisory Council
for its advice as to the course that should be followed in the present
not say what he would
situation, and Mr. Jackson responded that he could
do in advance of an effort to compose the differences between the
Treasury and the Board.
Mr. Eccles stated that at no time in the more than 16 years
during which he had been a member of the Board was there greater need
for courage and realistic leadership in monetary and credit matters,
that in his opinion the statement submitted by the Federal Advisory
that the
Council on this topic did not measure up to that need, and
and credit policies
failure of the bankers to support adequate monetary
during the postwar period was at least partly responsible for the
Problem with which the System was faced at the present time.

He

of rates under which
reviewed the situation which led up to the pattern
the conditions which had
Treasury financing was done during the war,
war, and the efforts
existed in the fiscal and credit field since the
that the System had made to get the necessary legislation or a determination of policies which would have enabled the problem of debt




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management and credit policy to be faced realistically.
He pointed out that it would not be possible to permit major
Changes in the interest rate structure during a period of deficit
financing because it was not possible to sell new securities in a falling
market, but that there would be an opportunity during the next two or
three months to adopt a realistic policy.

He felt that the middle-of-

the-road attitude that had been taken by the bankers and the Council was
not helpful in the present situation.
It was his opinion that at no time in the postwar period could
effective action be taken with less danger of bringing about a deflation than at present.

He referred to the comment in the Council's

statement that small changes in interest rates would not have an
important effect on the volume of bank loans and said that the comment
vas equivalent to saying that, if such changes were not effective and
could not be made, the market should be frozen and the Federal Reserve
should abdicate its powers to the Treasury.

He added that the System

had purchased a large volume of securities in recent months at a time
'When the fiscal policy of the Government was anti-inflationary and
'When the outward movement of gold would have had an anti-inflationary
effect, and that in spite of these two anti-inflationary forces open
market purchases of the System had put reserves into the banking
sYstem in such amounts that banks had been able to expand credit at an
alarming rate which had been reflected in inflated prices to an extent




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that would not have been possible in the absence of such expansion.
He went on to say that the very large sale

of Government securities

by nonbank investors was due to the unrealistic yields on existing issues
of Government securities, that the situation had been met by the
socialistic government of England (where it might be expected that an
effort would be made to finance at a very low rate of interest) by
increasing the rate on long-term securities to

3 per cent to induce

the public to buy and hold them, and that other countries had taken
similar action while we had been following a policy which might be expected of a socialistic government.
It was his opinion that the sooner the Government faced the
situation squarely and gave the market something which it would hold,
the better it would be.

It was not a problem of deficit financing,

he said, but one of stopping bank credit growth, and if the budget were
balanced and the door left open for further expansion of private credit

the value of the dollar could be destroyed. It was his view that such
a course was being followed at the present time, with the indirect
suPport of the bankers and the Federal Advisory Council.
He then suggested that there be an immediate announcement that

the long-term refunding and financing of the Treasury would be done at
4 2-3/4

per cent or

3 per cent rate with the understanding that other

issues would be allowed to adjust and that perhaps some kind of conlisrsion privilege would be offered so that investors would be induced




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to hold their securities without market support.

He questioned whether

an increase of as much as one per cent in the short-term rate would be
effective in stopping the expansion of bank credit and felt that it
would be necessary for the System to have supplementary powers from the
Congress to increase bank reserves, which authority banks had strongly
Opposed in the past.

It was his opinion that if we did not get a solution

Of the problem along those lines we would get direct control of credit
through a freeze of the existing situation which the banks would like
even less, that the problem would not be solved by side-stepping it, and
that the Federal Advisory Council should be more interested in findingthe right solution and in preserving the private banking system and in
dealing with the fundamental causes of inflation rather than with its
effects.

He said it was not a question of personalities or of conflict

between the Federal Reserve and the Treasury but a question of adopting
basic policies and facing courageously a problem which was hardly secondary
in importance even to the defense effort.

It was his view that in

Such a situation the statement submitted by the Council was not what
Might be expected at a time when what was needed was leadership and
courage.
Mr. Hemingway stated that the Government was suffering from
its past sins" and he and Mr. Jackson referred to the recommendations
that had been made by the Council since the war with respect to Treasury
financing and to the importance of settling what appeared to be an




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open controversy between the Treasury and the Federal Reserve System.
Mr. Eccles stated that he realized that mistakes were made
during and since the war but that the bankers should support a
realistic program to meet the present situation.

He also said that

the Board and the Federal Open Market Committee had made most
desperate efforts to get the Treasury to face the issue and that the
extremely inflationary developments since Korea made the situation a
most urgent one with only a period of two or three months in which to
find a solution.

He added that he did not think our economy could

stand a system of direct controls for an indefinite period and that he
would like to try to develop a system of indirect controls which would
deal directly with the causes of inflation rather than its effects and

which would make the continuance of a broad harness of direct controls
unnecessary.
Following a discussion of the possible effects of letting
1°11g-term Government securities go below par, during which it was pointed
Out by Mr. Congdon that the question whether a long-term issue would

be offered was one for the Treasury to decide, Mr. Bucklin stated that
the Councilts statement did net reflect a lack of courage but rather the
strong feeling that the present was not the time for the Council to
take sides in a controversy for the reason that it was of the utmost
-MPortance that an agreement be reached by the Treasury and the Board,
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the Council did not want to do anything that would make an agree-




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ment more difficult.

He felt that one of the principal causes of the

inflation was the building of inventories in anticipation of further
price increases, that it would be very helpful if there could be
assurance that prices would not continue to go up, and that, therefore,
the situation could not be cured by monetary methods alone.

It was

his view that the System should not permit any change in existing rates

or any "jiggling" of the market until the matter could be discussed
again with the Treasury after the return of the Secretary of the
Treasury from the hospital.

He would wait until it could be demonstrated

the Treasury
whether it would be possible to reach an agreement with
and then issue a statement which the public would believe.
There was a discussion of how increases in prices increased
demands for credit which in turn tended to increase prices further.
of the System
Mr. Szymczak made it clear that the responsibility
under the law was to regulate the availability of bank reserves and
that, therefore, the System was not interested in increases in interest
rates as such but rather in policies which would enable the System to
discharge the responsibilities placed upon it by the Congress even
though such policies resulted in higher rates.
Chairman McCabe inquired what the position of the Council would
be if the Treasury should continue to insist on the existing pattern
°f interest rates.

Mr. Congdon responded that he would hope that there

could be some agreement between the Treasury and the System, that it




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was not possible to continue to have disagreement, and that if such
agreement could not be reached it was probable that the matter would
get into Congress and be decided as a political issue.

Such a situation,

he said, could be very disastrous to the System and the Council did
not want that to happen.
At this point, Mr. Szymczak commented that if the System should
accept the Treasury position it would be a complete abdication of the
responsibilities of the System for which the Congress might well take
the system to task.

Mr. Congdon did not think it was possible to change

the present pattern of rates without an agreement with the Treasury
but that it might be possible to get to a

3 per cent long-term rate if

the Treasury would agree.
At this point, Mr. Congdon withdrew from the meeting.
In a further discussion, Chairman McCabe emphasized that the
Problem before the Open Market Committee with respect to the purchase
C/f

long-term securities was an immediate and pressing one because of

sales by insurance companies and other nonbank holders to obtain funds
tor other investments, that the expansion of bank credit was adding to
the urgency of the problem, and that, in view of the responsibilities
Qf the system for regulating the supply of reserves, the necessity of
l'eaching an adequate and satisfactory solution of the problem was
61ctremely acute.

He added that he had given every ounce of his

Strength and his patience to work out a solution, that he was satisfied




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that no member of the Council would have more patience and forbearance
than had been exercised, but that in spite of that the System would continue to negotiate with the Treasury and would not give up trying to
find a solution.

On the other hand, he said, the System had a responsi-

bility to the Con6iress for which it would have to give an account and
what he was trying to do was to see if there was any help or ideas that
could be brought to bear on the problem as it was not as simple as the
statement submitted by the Council would indicate.

What concerned him,

he added, was what answer the System would give to the Congress as to
the manner in which it had discharged the responsibilities placed
upon it.
Mr. Bucklin suggested that if the Treasury and the System would
get together most of the trouble would disappear.
Mr. Hemingway stated that after the Federal Open Market Committee
had had an opportunity to confer further with the Secretary of the
Treasury the Federal Advisory Council would be available for further
discussion if that should be desired.
Mr. Szymczak pointed out that the Secretary might be in the
hospital for some weeks and that during his absence there should be
someone in the Treasury authorized to speak on policy matters.

Messrs.

McCabe and Szymczak outlined reasons why, in their opinion, the
SYstem could not continue to defer action in an effort to work out an




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agreement with the Treasury without becoming subject to criticism for
failure to discharge its responsibility by the Congress.
Mr. Davis inquired whether anyone could talk to the President.
Chairman McCabe replied that he had not talked to him since the
meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee with the President on
January 31 but that he had talked to him frequently prior thereto.
Re also said that he thought it was extremely unfortunate that the
President had been brought into the discussion of the matter and had
been placed in the position that he had in connection with it.
Mr. Potts inquired whether the statement was true which appeared
recently in The New York Times that the Open Market Committee had
vritten a letter to the President.

Chairman McCabe said that it was

and stated that the letter was written in reply to an earlier letter
from the President.
In response to an inquiry from Mr. Ray as to the source of any
repercussions if the Government securities market should be permitted
to go down to say 98, Chairman McCabe stated that any such action
Probably could not be an abrupt one but would have to be carried out
by degrees which would enable the System to fulfill most effectively
Its role in an inflationary situation of restricting the availability
°f bank reserves.




The immediate problem, he said, was that the System

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had been purchasing long-term securities at a premium of 22/32 and that
when the price was allowed to decline 1/32, the Treasury began to purchase
the longest-term restricted bonds for trust accounts at par and 22/32ds
so that it was making the market in that issue.

In the discussion which

ensued members of the Council indicated that they did not approve of
the Treasury action and President Brown stated that the discussion of
this topic at this meeting had been very informative to the Council.
Mr. Eccles stated that he felt he owed the members of the Council
an apology for the strong comment he had made with respect to the state.Ment submitted by the Council, but that he had worked very closely
With the whole problem and felt very strongly about it.

He also said

that his comment was entirely objective and not personal in any way and
that he realized that in a group of men of the size of the Federal
Advisory Council any statement would have to be a compromise of the views
°f the individuals making up the group.
Later in the meeting, Mr. Eccles also said that he had never
Been anyone exhibit the patience that Chairman McCabe had shown in
his efforts to get a satisfactory understanding with the Treasury,
that if anything he had exhibited greater patience than the situation
called for, and that the Council could be assured that any lack of
Datience or effort to reach a satisfactory agreement was not due to




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Chairman McCabe.

3. What are the prospects with respect to
changes in the total volume of bank loans
during the first half of 1951?
All members of the Council except two believe that the
total volume of bank loans will increase in their districts
during the first half of 1951. It is believed the anticipated
increase in bank loans will be due to the extension of
credit for defense and other essential production.
Chairman McCabe called attention to the reference in the statement to essential production and expressed the opinion that many loans
Made by banks were of a very questionable character because of their .
inflationary effect.

President Brown agreed that many such loans were

made but that he did not believe they would increase because of the
restrictions that would be placed on the expansion of inventories.

4. What have been the effects of Regulations
W and X and under what conditions would the
Council favor tightening the terms of the
Regulations?
Regulation W is beginning to have some effect on installment loans. Increased purchases due to the fear of higher
prices or the inability to obtain goods have lessened the
effect so far of Regulation W in reducing the volume of
consumer credit. From now on Regulation W should be more
effective in checking consumer credit. Some members of
the Council believe that the terms on used cars should be
tightened. Otherwise, Regulation W should not now be
changed.
Due to previously existing commitments for construction, the effects of Regulation X are not yet apparent.
The Council believes that in a matter of several months,
Regulation X will greatly reduce real estate credit for
new construction. In the meantime, commitments for
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more experience is had, the Council -has no changes
to recommend in Regulation X.
President Brown stated that about one-half of the members of
the Council were of the opinion that prices of used cars were "going
through the roof" and that it might be desirable to stiffen the terms
of Regulation W in that area.
higher prices.

Part of the increase was fear of

He also said that the trade was more interested in

having the Federal Reserve police automobile loans for the purpose of
making them safer than in the effect of Regulation W in the over-all
credit situation.

.

Most members of the Council, he said, would have no

Objection if the Board should see fit to tighten terms either by
Increasing the down payment or shortening the maximum maturity on used
car loans.

Mr. Eccles inquired why terms should not also be tightened

on new cars and this point was discussed.
President Brown stated that it appeared that real estate loans
40v being made were on commitments and starts undertaken before the
real estate regulations were issued and that most of the new loans
Ifere going into defense construction and loans guaranteed by the
Government.
Mr. Norton outlined the prospects for residential construction
ing 1951 which indicated that on the basis of present credit
restrictions the goal of

8o0l000 -- 870,000 houses in 1971, which was

4440unced at the time Regulation X was issued, would be substantially
eXceeded principally because of the very large backlog of commitments
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-21Chairman McCabe stated that in the discussions with the Housing

and Home Finance Administrator the Board had taken the position that
real estate credit was one of the most inflationary elements in the
economy and that in more recent discussions this point had been
Pressed, with great emphasis, together with the fact that the Board
was fearful that the announced goal would not be attained.
President Brown expressed the view that if the situation
continued to expand as outlined by Mr. Norton it would be desirable to
tighten the terms of Regulation X.

He also said that it was realized

that the Board would have to get the concurrence of the Housing
Administrator on any such action.

Mr. Norton commented that the

Rousing Administrator would like to have another 30 days to analyze
available information on the volume of construction before reaching
a decision on that point.

5. What steps would the Council recommend to make
the V-loan program operate more effectively?
Complaints have been coming to the Board that
the small defense contractor who has the
managerial and technical ability to produce
defense goods but does not have established
banking connections is having difficulty
in getting necessary financing. How can
this situation be met effectively without
the creation of an additional Government
agency or lending powers in an existing agency?
With the passage of satisfactory legislation dealing
with renegotiation and with the assignment of claims against
the government, the financing problems of small defense
contractors who really possess the managerial and technical
ability could be adequately met by the banks. In the meantime, the banks can not in many instances properly extend




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such credit. With the passage of the necessary legislation, no additional government agency or any additional
lending powers in an existing agency should be necessary.
President Brown stated that the information available to the
Council indicated that while the legislation referred to in the above
statement had been submitted to the committees of the Congress; it
Probably would not be given prompt consideration because of the
Priority of other pending legislation.

In the ensuing discussion

there was agreement that the legislation should be expedited in every
Possible way.
Chairman McCabe inquired whether the members of the Council
had heard any comments to the effect that banks were not willing to
make V-loans because the net return after payment of guarantee fees
as inadequate.

Mr. Ray stated that some country banks had complained

about the rates but that the larger banks in his district had circularized the country banks that they would be glad to consider any
loans which the country banks did not want to make.

It was his view

that the necessary financing could be done under the present rates.
President Brown expressed the opinion that there would be no
difficulty on financing where the contractor had the necessary
Managerial and technical ability which the Council interpreted to
Mean also the facilities to produce the goods, but that there would
be numerous complaints from concerns which undertook to buy expensive
Machinery to manufacture materials substantially different from what




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they had made in the past.

He also said that anything that the Board

could do to expedite passage of the proposed amendment to the Assignment of Claims Act would be very much appreciated because the present
situation in that regard presented a real difficulty.
Chairman McCabe stated that it might be possible to get Mr.
Wilson, Director of the Office of Defense Mobilization, to press for
Passage of the bill.

6. The Board would be pleased to have any comments
that the Council might wish to make with respect
to the program for voluntary agreements by
financing institutions.
The Council believes that the program for voluntary
agreements by financing institutions will make an important contribution at the present time to the sound
functioning of our economy. The Council therefore hopes
that the Board will give the fullest measure of support
to this program, and promulgate it promptly.
Mr. Powell said that it was hoped that the program could be
announced very shortly, that the final approval of the program by the
Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission was expected within
the next few days, andthat the Board was prepared to appoint a
Voluntary Credit Restraint Committee as provided in the procedure for
iMplementing the program and to send the program out as soon as the
approval of the Attorney General was obtained.
In the ensuing discussion President Brown expressed the view

that the effectiveness of the program would be almost entirely in
curtailing large loans.




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volume of inventory loans which were highly inflationary, that it would
take real courage on the part of the banks to decline to make such
loans, and that the program of voluntary agreements would not be
effective unless the volume of these loans was curtailed.
President Brown stated that the next regular meeting of the
Council would be on May 13-15, 1951.




Thereupon the meeting adjour

Secretary. .