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609 '9/61 Minutes for February 14, 1963 To: Members of the Board From: Office of the Secretary Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the above date. It is not proposed to include a statement With respect to any of the entries in this set of minutes in the record of policy actions required to be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act. Should you have any question with regard to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below. If you were present at the meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If You were not present, your initials will indicate °ay that you have seen the minutes. Chin. Martin Gov. Mills Gov. Robertson Gov. Balderston Gov. Shepardson Gov. King Gov. Mitchell Sr-k Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on Thursday, February 14, 1963. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m. PRESENT: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Martin, Chairman Balderston, Vice Chairman Robertson Shepardson Mr. Sherman, Secretary Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board and Director, Division of International Finance Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board Mr. Hackley, General Counsel Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel Administration Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of Examinations Mr. Mattras, General Assistant, Office of the Secretary Mr. Young, Senior Attorney, Legal Division Mr. Doyle, Attorney, Legal Division Items circulated or distributed to the Board. The follow- items, copies of which are attached to these minutes under the l esPective item numbers indicated, were approved unanimously: ' Item No. 11:letter to Community Bank of Warsaw, Warsaw, Missouri, v iving the requirement of six-months' notice of ' 0-Lthdrawal from membership in the Federal Reserve °Ystem. 1 Letter to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation egarding the application of Community Bank of aarsaw, Warsaw, Missouri, for continuation of Si insurance after withdrawal from membership the Federal Reserve System. 2 r- 2/14/63 -2Item No. Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco approving the appointment of Armand A. Pascual as Assistant Federal Reserve Agent. 3 Memorandum from Messrs. Young and Noyes regarding attendance of Stephen P. Taylor, Chief, Flow of Funds and Savings Section, Division of Research and Statistics, at a meeting of the Working Group on Statislcs of Financial Assets and Liabilities, uonference of European Statisticians, to be held in Geneva, Switzerland, May 20-24, 1963, 4 Letter to the Chairman of the House Committee on Government Operations reporting on (1) R. R. 867, H. R. 1920, H. R. 886, H. R. 889, R. R. 2413, and H. R. 3289, bills that would amend the Budget and Accounting Act, 1921, to provide for the retirement of the public cleht by setting aside specified percentages or budget receipts for that purpose, and (2) I R. 113, a bill that would specify that the I' uudget submitted by the President to the .ongress include "an item for not less than T2)000,000,000 to be applied toward reduction Of the national debt." 5 Mr. Johnson then withdrew from the meeting. Report on competitive factors (Baldwin-Luther, Michigan). Mere had been distributed a draft of report to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation on the competitive factors involved in the Proposed consolidation of Lake County State Bank, Baldwin, Michigan, '41th Luther State Bank, Luther, Michigan. The report was approved unanimously for transmission to the CorPoration, the conclusion reading as follows: While a small amount of competition would be eliminated, the over-all effect of the proposed consolidation of these two small banks on competition would not be adverse. 0:A 2/14/63 -3Report on S. 731 (Item No. 6). There had been distributed a memorandum from the Legal Division dated February 13, 1963, submitting a draft of letter to the Chairman of the Senate Banking and Currency Committee reporting on S. 731, a bill "To repeal certain legislation relating to the purchase of silver, and for other purposes." The memorandum noted that the bill would (1) repeal the Acts Of June 29, 1934, July 6, 1939, and July 31, 1946, relating to the Purchase of silver; (2) authorize Federal Reserve Banks to issue Federal Reserve notes of one dollar denomination; and (3) terminate, in certain situations, the special tax on transfers of interests in silver bullion. The bill was substantially the same as S. 2885, on 'which the Board reported favorably to the Senate Banking and Currency Committee on February 27, 1962. The proposed letter would report favorably on the current bill but suggest that the bill include authorization for the issuance of t11O dollar Federal Reserve notes as well as one dollar notes. During discussion, it was noted that the suggestion with respect to the two dollar notes had been made previously by the Board. After e°4sideration of this point, it was agreed that the suggestion should be renewed in the interest of consistency. A subsidiary question was raised with regard to the possibility °f replacing the present 12 issues of Federal Reserve notes with one central issue. S. 731 would It was Pointed out that the passage of bill r- r: 2/14/63 -4- result in a substantial increase in the volume of notes that the Reserve Banks would have to handle. However, Mr. Farrell expressed the view that consideration of the possibility of a single note issue might preferably be deferred until such time as an over-all review of the currency structure was undertaken. There also arose a discussion with regard to the possibility Of changing the present legend on Federal Reserve notes, in view of questions that had been raised from time to time about the statement that such notes were "redeemable in lawful money." In this connection, Mr. Rackley noted that the Secretary of the Treasury had authority to change the legend on the notes without additional legislation. Mr. Farrell expressed the opinion that this question, like the question (31. a single Federal Reserve note issue, was one that might well await 4 general review of the currency structure. During further discussion, agreement was expressed that the qUestion of a single issue of Federal Reserve notes and the question of changing the legend on the notes might need to be considered further at 4 ' the future date, but that it would be preferable not to complicate report on the current bill. The Board then approved unanimously the proposed letter with °Ile minor change in wording. A copy of the letter, as sent, is 4ttached to these minutes as Item No. 6. S5 2/14/63 -5Messrs. Leavitt and Young (Legal) then withdrew and the following entered the room: Mr. Furth, Adviser, Division of Interna- tional Finance, and Mr. Katz, Associate Adviser, Division of International Finance. European Coal and Steel Community (Item No. 7). There had been distributed a memorandum from the Legal Division dated February 13, 1963, supplementing a memorandum dated December 18, 1962, with regard to the question whether time deposits of the European Coal and Steel CoMmunity were exempted by Public Law 87-827 from the maximum interest rate limitations imposed by the Board pursuant to section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act. This matter had been considered by the Board on December 20, 1962, and it had been understood that a final determination Of the question would be deferred until representatives of the Community had been afforded an opportunity to present their views to the Board. On January 24, 1963, representatives of the Community met with members of the Board's staff; a summary of that meeting had been prepared by Mr' Doyle and had been distributed in the form of a memorandum dated rluarY 29, 1963. ' je On January 25, 1963, the representatives of the CcImmunity met with the Board. Mr. Hackley reviewed the problem and commented on the arguments b°th pro and con, as outlined in the Division's memorandum of February 13, 1963. He noted that the representatives of the Community argued that the Community should be regarded, for purposes of the statute, as a °reign government." However, the meeting with Community representatives • in* C' 1 OT-11 2/14/63 -6- not changed his feeling that a reasonable interpretation of the statute would not permit the conclusion that the Community was a foreign government for the purposes of Public Law 87-827. Mr. Hackley pointed out that if the Board should take an adverse position on the question, the Community representatives had expressed the hope that the Board's position would not be publicized, or else that the request for a ruling could be withdrawn. The Department State also had expressed an interest in not having an adverse ruling 'lade public. Mr. Hackley expressed the feeling that it might not be all altogether satisfactory procedure to allow the request for an interpretation to be withdrawn at this point. The concern of the CoMMunity would appear to be met if the Board did not publicize its Position. The Board's position could be stated in a letter to the Pederal Reserve Bank of New York along the lines of the draft submitted /gith the February 13 memorandum, with instructions to make it clear to the member bank that had raised the question that the Board's opinion /gas not being publicized. Similarly, appropriate advice could be transmitted to the State Department. Mr. Hackley also noted that if the Board were disposed to agree with the position of the Community, the Treasury had indicated that Mr. Roosa, Under Secretary for Monetary Affairs, would like to be consulted before a definite position was taken bY the Board. , 2/14/63 -7After further discussion, the letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was approved unanimously, with the understanding that the ruling would not be publicized and that a copy of the letter would be sent to the Department of State as a matter of information. A Copy of the letter is attached to these minutes as Item No. 7. United Nations organizations (Item No. 8). On January 18, 1963, the Board had considered the question whether time deposits of the United Nations Special Fund and the United Nations Technical Assistance Administration were exempted by Public Law 87-827 from interest rate limitations prescribed by the Board. At that time the LegfU Division had ccncluded, for reasons stated in a memorandum dated january 15, 1963, that time deposits of these organizations were not "emPt from interest rate limitations, and it recommended that the Pederal Reserve Bank of New York be advised to such effect. The Board had decided, however, to defer action on the matter until after the representatives of the European Coal and Steel Community had an opportunity to present their views to the Board on a similar request. Since the Board had heard the views of the Community represent- es and had acted on the question raised with respect to time deposits °I' the Community, Mr. Hackley reviewed the situation with respect to the two United Nations organizations and reiterated the opinion that their tiole deposits should not be regarded as exempt from the Board's interest rate limitations. f _8- 2/14/63 The Board then approved unanimously a letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York that reflected the conclusion reached by the Legal Division. It was understood that the Board's position would not be Publicized, and that the letter to the New York Reserve Bank would reflect this fact. A copy of the letter is attached to these minutes as Item No. 8. The meeting then adjourned. Secretary's Note: Pursuant to recommendations contained in memoranda from appropriate individuals concerned, Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf of the Board the following actions relating to the Board's staff: t21.221:qinmn , Edward J. Finck as Teletype Operator, Division of Administrative fervices, with basic annual salary at the rate of $4,885, effective che date of entrance upon duty. Acceptance of resignations , 43* Eugene C. Harrison, Legal Assistant, Legal Division, effective the close of business February 27, 1963. William N. Taylor, Messenger, Division of Administrative Services, vIrective at the close of business February 14, 1963. Secretary S59 BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. 1 2/14/63 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON 25, D. C. ADDRESS oFriciAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD February 14, 1963 Board of Directors, Community Bank of Warsaw, Warsaw,, Missouri. Gentlemen: The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis has forwarded to he Board of Governors President Lumpe's letter dated January 18, 963, together with the accompanying resolution, signifying your ntenti0n to withdraw from membership in the Federal Reserve 'YEitem and requesting waiver of the six-months' notice of such withdrawal. The Board of Governors waives the requirement of sixmonths' notice of withdrawal. Under the provisions of Section 208.10(c) the Board's Regulation H, your institution may accomplish termina410n of its membership at any time within eight months from the , !ate the notice of intention to withdraw from membership was given. ,uPori surrender to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis of the federal Reserve stock issued to your institution, such stock will "cancelled and appropriate refund will be made thereon. It is requested that the certificate of membership be returned to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Very truly yours, (Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael Elizabeth L. Carmichael, Assistant Secretary. BOARD OF GOVERNORS ,„... ,$ p Of Col;• Item No. 2 OF THE 0. 2/14/63 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON 25, D. C. ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD •,L February 14, 1963 Honorable Erie Cocke, Sr., Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Washington 25, D. C. Dear Mr. Cocke: Reference is made to your letter of January 30, 1963, concerning the application of Community Bank of Warsaw, Warsaw, Missouri, for continuance of deposit insurance after withdrawal from membership in the Federal Reserve System. No corrective programs which the Board of Governors believes should be incorporated as conditions to the continuance of deposit insurance have been urged upon or agreed to by the bank. Very traly yours, (Elizabeth L. Carmichael) Elizabeth L. Carmichael, Assistant Secretary. 4 BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. OF THE 3 2/14/63 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON 25. D. C. ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD February 14, 1963 lir. P. B. Whitman, Federal Reserve Agent, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, 'an Francisco 20, California. Dear Mr. Whitman: In accordance with the request contained in your letter of 1963, the Board of Governors approves the appointment of Fe;Armand A. Pascual as Assistant Federal eserve Agent at the u eral Reserve Bank of San Francisco to succeed Mr. Philip M. Stone , c t1 his retirement. ' ' Jam" -rY 31., This approval is given with the understanding that , the `el will be solely responsible to the Federal Reserve Agent and ex Board of Governors for the proper performance of his duties, 11,r eePt that, during the absence or disability of the Federal 'Reserve noerit or a vacancy in that Office, his responsibildty will be to the ' ara of Governors. When not engaged in the performance of his duties as ASS1 ,4. -"ant Federal Reserve Agent Yr. Pascual, may, with the approval of 1 forche Federal Reserve Agent and the President, perform such work pci the Bank as will not be inconsistent with his duties as Assistant era]. Reserve Agent. It will be appreciated if Mr. Pascual is fully informed of the 111 ' piaci Pertance of his responsibilities as a member of the staff of the theeral Reserve Agent and the need for maintenance of independence from O perations of the 3ank in the discharge of these responsibilities. It is noted from your letter that, upon the approval of the 4PP°int the ment of Mr. Pascual by the Board of Governors, he will execute 118ual Oath of Office which will be forwarded to the Board giving the effective date of his appointment. Very truly yours, (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary. BOARD OF GOVERNORS Or THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (Iffice Correspondence -----B-Qatd_zr,ovprnor2 Item N414,!,:). 2/14/63 Dee February 4, 1961 Subject: The attached letter from Mr. Raymond T. Bowman requests that Board oard approve the attendance of 1,1r. Stephen P. Taylor at a meeting Working Group on Statistics of Financial Assets and Liabilities, 0117rerenoe of European Statisticians, to be held in Geneva, Switzerland 20-24, 1963. Mr. Bowman indicates that if the Board approves rec laylor's attendance at this meeting, the Budget Bureau would °Ilinend to the Department of State that he be designated United States ePresentative.. the 6;the We recommend that Mr. Taylor be authorized to attend this raee +-; '-`41g at the Board's expense, and that his itinerary include short Fts to the OECD Secretariat in Paris, the BIS in Basle, the Bundesbank with the 1..arl-kflirt, and the Bank of England in London. He would discuss and production the in developments use 1PrePriate specialists recent to °1 flow of funds accounts. Such discussions would be advantageous on,"'pertinent work of the Division in that personal contact with tanizations and individuals doing significant work in the area conoer fled. would provide valuable insights benefitting our own analytical , interani. The benefits would be reciprocal in view of the wide-spread est in what we are doing in the flow-of-funds area. We estimate the elapsed time for Mr. Taylor's trip would be 413011t three weeks. We also recommend that he be authorized to take atirlual 4 fer, leave while in Etirope, if this can be permitted without interng With essential work here. ' Attachment BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. 2/14/63 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN February 141 1963 The Honorable William L. Dawson, Chairman, Committee on Government Operations, House of Representatives, Washington 25, D. C. • Dear Mr. Chairman: This is in response to your letters of January 24, 25, 30, and February 6, 1963, requesting a review of bills H. R. 867, H. R. Would ,920, H. R. 886, H. R. 889, H. R. 2413, and H. R. 3289 that amend the Budget and Accounting Act, 1921, to provide for the reclement of the public debt by setting aside specified percentages °f budget receipts for that purpose. These bills are similar in Content except for the percentage rates of debt retirement specir led. This is also in response to your letter of January 22, ePesting a review of H. R. 113, which specifies that the budget Submitted by the President to the Congress include "an item for not ess than $2,000,000,000 to be applied toward reduction of the national debt." These seven bills are similar in economic and budgetary 10gic to H. R. 8637 which was introduced into the 1st Session of 195e 87th Congress, and which was reviewed in my letter of August 30, w 1. The comments in that letter, a copy of which is enclosed, 4nuld seem to be applicable to the bills on which you now have asked rePort. The Board has found no reason to change the views that it IllxPressed at that time, and, accordingly it still doubts that enact' ent of these measures would serve any useful purpose. Sincerely yours, (Signed) Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Enclosure T31;/1 tytt BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. 6 OFTHE t: 1.2 2/14/63 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN .4 °0004 February 14, 1963 The Honorable A. Willis Robertson, Chairman, Senate Banking and Currency Committee, ivashington 25, D. C. Dear Mr. Chairman: This is in response to your letter of February 7, 1963, re questing a report from the Board of Governors on S. 731, a bill "To rrIpeal certain legislation relating to the purchase of silver, and for er Purposes." The bill would (1) repeal provisions of the. Acts of relating to the purchase 4,11e 29, 1934, July 6, 1939, and July 31, 1946, r,11 Silver; (2) authorize the Federal Reserve Banks to issue Federal erve notes of one dollar denomination, and (3) terminate, in certain 'Illations, the special tax on transfers of interests in silver bullion. X 1. The Board believes that it is unnecessary to utilize silver as part of the United States monetary system other than as a erial for coinage. Therefore, there is no need for retention of existing silver purchase provisions. r 2. The Board favors the proposed amendment of the law that 7'1114 authorize the issuance of Federal Reserve notes in one dollar isrl°1/1ination in addition to those denominations already authorized. ' ever, the Board believes that any replacement or supplementation of suPP1y of silver certificates with such Federal Reserve notes should se Place gradually enough to moderate any effect on the statutory mZ' gold certificate reserve. C It is noted that the result of the bill would be to authorize Federal Reserve System to issue notes in all present denominations currency with the exception of the two dollar denomination. In the terect of consistency, it may be considered appropriate to authorize ssuance of two dollar as well as one dollar Federal Reserve notes. the r in 3. The Board would not object to the amendment proposed of Code Revenue Internal the of 1.896 section to bill lorl °n 4 of the transtaxing of the provisions eecti which relates to the applicability 4.ere of interests in silver bullion. Sincerely yours, 4 71Aga- Wm. 14cC. Martin, Jr. BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. OF THE 7 2/14/63 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON 25, D. C. ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE EIOARD February 14, 1963 lir. Alfred Hayes, President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York 45/ Npw York. Dear Mr. Hayes: This refers to Mr. Crowley's letter of November 16, 1962, Mr. Clarke's letter of November 27, 1962, regarding the question ;nether time deposits of the High Authority of the European Coal and (07e1 Community ("ECSC") are exempted by the Act of October 15, 1962 L. 87-827) from interest rate limitations prescribed by the Board suant to section 19 of the Fbderal. Reserve Act. In connection with this question, the Board has considered nlemoranda submitted by the firm of Cravath, Swaine and Moore, and ,„1:glIments advanced by representatives of the ECSC at meetings with 'Lle Board's staff and with the Board on January 24 and 25, 1963. The amendment of October 15, 1962, exempts from interest --imitations time deposits of foreign governments, monetary and 141-uancial authorities of foreign governments when acting as such, and m ternational financial institutions of whioh the United States is a oner. It is not contended that the ECSC is an international finanora ' institution of which the United States is a member or a monetary rihancial authority of foreign governments. rat f4: 1 1 The Board recognizes that for some purposes the ECSC might a "foreign government", in view of the nature of its 64) 0wers and functions. However, in the absence of evidence that brneress meant to Use the term "foreign governments" in a sense Bo°acler than its usual meaning of governments of national states, the t aliCI has concluded that the ECSC is not a foreign government within "e meaning and purpose of P. L. 87-827. be n Plainta. Accordingly, it is the Board's opinion that time deposits ined by the ECSC with member banks of the Federal Reserve System are 80,,,n:ct exempted by P. L. 87-827 from interest rate limitations pre-."°ed by the Board pursuant to section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act. SCR BOARD OF GOVERNORS lir. Alfred Hayes or THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM -2- The Boardts opinion in this matter is not being published °r given circulation, and it is requested that this be made clear by Yclur Bank in your advice to the member bank or banks by which the question has been or may be raised. Very truly yours, (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary. r;s4;'-' Item No. BOARD OF GOVERNORS 8 2/14/63 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON 25, D. C. ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD February 14, 1963 Alfred Hayes, President, Reserve Bank of New York, -47 York 45, New Ilear Mr• Hayes: This refers to Mr. Clarke's letter of November 29, 1962, tro its enclosures, requesting advice as to whether the exemption kle111 deposit interest rate limitations provided by Public Law 87-827, cl:ding section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act, is applicable to time 11,1;,T-ts of the United Nations Special Fund, the United Nations TechAssistance Administration, and the United Nations Temporary 1.11; 11°mi0 Administration. It is understood that the request for an ha ' erPretation as to the status of the last-mentioned organization 8 8inee been withdrawn by the member bank concerned. According to the Board's information, it is understood that tecl.,_ the U. N. Technical Assistance Administration makes grants for itz:"Iical assistance Purposes in certain ccuntries; that it derives tt,,.., 1 1Ws from voluntary contributions by nsmber nations; and that es no loans and does not engage in capital investments. It is 1,410 understood that the U. N. Special Fund makes surveys, engages in oraearch, and seeks to develop manpower training and education in AZ to assist in the development of certain countries; that its arld ,8 t,are derived from voluntary contributions by member nations; nat it does not make loans or investments. In the Board's opinion, neither of these organizations, as it, ' resntly functions, may reasonably be regarded as a foreign Rove, 01. Iraent, a financial or monetary authority of foreign governments, : 4 international "financial" institution of which the United States the-1,member. Th. Board concludes, therefore, that time deposits of tra • N. Special Fund and of the U. N. Technical Assistance AdminisNxt,A1.?fl are not exempted by Public Law 87-827 from the maximum interest -limitations prescribed by the Board pursuant to section 19 of the eral Reaarve Act and the Board's Regulation Q. BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Al ed Hayes or given The Boards opinion in this matter is not being published circulation, and it is requested that this be made clear 1,3 Your Bank in any advice given by you to the member bank or banks y. uhich the questions have been or may be raised. Very truly yours. , (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary.