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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYsterti was held
in Washington on Friday, February 14, 1941, at 10:40

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Paulger, Chief of the Division of
Examinations
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Wingfield, Assistant General Counsel
There was presented a telegram addressed to Chairman Eccles
lincler date of
February 13, 1941, by Mr. Caldwell, Chairman of the Fed—
eral

Reserve Bank of Kansas City, asking that Chairman Eccles confirm

bY. wire

or letter the statement which he made over the telephone to Mr.

°4141vell on the previous day that the Board would not approve Mr. Leedy
4a

Pre
sident of the Kansas City Bank.
Unanimous approval was given to the
following telegraphic reply to Mr. Caldwell's
wire:
"Your wire February 13. Board of Governors confirms
herewith
statement which I made to you over telephone on
ry 12 that it does not approve appointment of H. G.
;!eedY as President of Kansas City Bank for five—year term
oegianing
March 1, 1941."




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-2There were also presented telegrams to Mr. Hays, Secretary of

the

Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Mr, Leach, President of the Fed
Reserve Bank of Richmond, Messrs. Dillard, Stewart, and Powell,

Seel'etaries of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, St. Louis, and
nnea
-Pc4is, respectively, Mr. Gilbert, President of the Federal Re"e Bank of Dallas, and Mr. Nest, Vice President of the Federal Re"
e sank of San Francisco, stating that the Board approves the estab4shm
-"teat without change by the Federal Reserve Banks of St. Louis and
Sala
i'rancisco on February 11, and by the Federal Reserve Banks of
Cleve
land, Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Dallas on
-17 13, 1941, of the rates of discount and purchase in their ex:tat
ing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Reference was made to a memorandum dated February 6, 1941 from
lir. 8
2Yi11czak in which he inquired whether the members of the Board should
rileet with the temporary employees of the staff who were employed pursuant
to
ue action taken at the meeting of the Board on June 18, 1940, to give
tilan opportunity to report directly to the members of the Board what
theywere doing and how they were pointing up the special studies on
Which they were engaged. The memorandum also inquired as to when the
tIlree
questions submitted to Chairman Eccles by the President were to be
411silrered.

Chairman Eccles indicated a feeling on his part that no fur-

ther co

nsideration need be given to answering these questions. In the




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cliecussion reference was made to the arrangement which had been made
to
have Professor Hansen meet with the members of the Board on Thursday,
Peb
Y 20 for the purpose of discussing the studies which he had been
Making.

It was agreed unanimously that the
time for the meeting with Professor Hansen
hould be changed to one o'clock on Thursday,
February 20, so that the discussion of his
studies could take place during luncheon.
Before this meeting the members of the Board had seen a memofrom Mr. Szymczak dated January 30, 1941, in which he called
attie,t,44
'
- 40n to the understanding previously reached that the Spring cone of the
Chairmen of Federal Reserve Banks would be held some-

Where
outside of Washington and to an inquiry from Mr. McCabe, Chairman
Of thR
- conference, as to when and where the conference should be held.

R,

"nscm stated that he had suggested that the matter be discussed by

the

Board as
he doubted whether a meeting outside of Washington should
be ,„
dertaken because of the difficulty in getting an adequate attendarlee

Of the members
of the Board.
During a discussion of the question raised by Mr. Ransom, Chair-

Eng,1

--4-es suggested that there should be no difficulty in getting a

at
tendance of the members of the Board if the meeting were held in
lic)t SPI'ings,
Virginia, or some other similar nearby place, on Saturday
411d SUnday,
which would make it necessary for the members of the Board
t° be away
from their desks only on Saturday morning.
This suggestion was agreed to by all
of the members of the Board and it was




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understood that Mr. Szymczak would advise
Mr. McCabe that it would be agreeable to
the Board if the conference were held at
Hot Springs, Virginia, on the 26th and 27th
of April.
Szymczak stated that Mr. McCabe had also suggested that the
'J-ctents be invited to attend the next conference of Chairmen.
All of the members of the Board indicated a feeling that such an arrangement
would result in an unwieldy conference which
would tend to impede the consideration of
the particular problems that it was contemplated would be taken up and it was agreed
that Mr. Szymczak would advise Mr. McCabe
accordingly.
Consideration was then given to a memorandum dated January 21,

1941, ,

Irom Messrs. Wingfield and Cagle, in which it was stated that, in
acorci.
ellee with the action of the meeting of the Board on January 11,
they had
conferred with Deputy Comptroller of the Currency Upham
Chi
--Ler National Bank Examiner Folger on the subject of granting trust
Power
8 t° small national banks, that it appeared from the discussions
that .
it would be the future policy of the Comptroller's Office to recom,
t
a greater extent than in the past against the granting of trust
Nyer
8 tO small national banks; and that Messrs. Wingfield and Cagle had
the
etinet impression that the Comptroller's Office would recommend un- on many applications similar to those on which the Office prehad made favorable recommendations.
n. Ransom stated that while he was in general agreement with the
13°Ited
Position of the Comptroller's Office for the reasons which he




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-5ae.nsom) had stated to the members of the Board on numerous earlier
°ccasi°ns, the approval of the application of the City National Bank of
Rastin
-g8) Hastings, Nebraska, for trust powers would be in accordance
Ilith the Board's
existing policy, and therefore the question before the
4ard 1478-8
whether the change in the policy of the Comptroller's Office
would
lead the Board to make any change in its present policy of granting tru
st powers to small national banks in a case where it appeared
that the bank was in good condition, the capital funds were sufficient
11171der the
circumstances of the case, the management was capable, and the
bank

desired trust powers as a means of serving its customers or meeting

c°14Pstiti0n from other institutions, but where there was a reasonable
cl°11°3t Whether the
bank could or would establish a trust department adeclilatelY staffed or
would find the department adequately compensating in
earnings.

The question presented by Mr. Ransom
was discussed at considerable length and
during the discussion Mr. Davis moved that
the application of the City National Bank
of Hastings, Hastings, Nebraska, be approved
as of this date and that the following letter be sent to the bank:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Syshas given consideration to your application for fidu-arY powers, and grants you authority to act, when not
contravention of State or local law, as trustee, exOr, administrator, registrar of stocks and bonds,
•"ardian of estates, assignee, receiver, and committee of
is)states of
lunatics, the exercise of all such rights to
,e subject to the provisions of the Federal Reserve Act
and
the regulations of the Board of Governors of the FedReserve System.
tem

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"This letter will be your authority to exercise the
ljdlIciary powers granted by the Board pending the prepara1?11 of a formal certificate covering such authorization,
which will be forwarded to you in due course."
All of the members of the Board were in agreement that the
granting of
trust powers was a responsibility of the Board which would
have to be
discharged by it on the basis of its best judgment regardless °I the reco

endations that the Office of the Comptroller of the

ClIll
'
enc,7 might make, and that the question to be decided was whether
the e
0neiderations which led to the change in the Comptroller's position
any other factors which might have a bearing on the matter,
811°111d lead the
Board to adopt a less liberal policy in the future.
trhero
4ae general agreement with the position that, although it was
to b
e expected that the smaller the bank the less likelihood there would
beim,
completely adequate administration of trust accounts and while
there .
'Ught be
some justification for the position that banks with capital or
less than a stated amount should not be granted trust powers,
the to
ard l e decision should be based on all the factors involved and
not e
°1elY on the size of the bank. The opinion was also expressed that
the r
eascns given by Deputy Comptroller Upham in his letter of November
.13,
194, for the recommendation that the application of the City National
Bank of Hastings be not approved did not justify denial of the
aPPlioation.

tion of

14r. McKee suggested that the Board defer action on the applicathe City National Bank of Hastings in order to afford the bank

eino p°Il
tlInitY to discuss the matter further with the office of the




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C°111Ptroller of the Currency, through the Chief National Bank Examiner
°f the district, after which the Board would give further consideration
to 41,

that

matter. This suggestion was discussed and it was generally agreed
.
this course were followed the Comptroller of the Currency should

be
advised of the Board's intention to so advise the national bank.
At the conclusion of the discussion
Mr. Davis' motion was put by the Chair and
carried, Mr. Ransom voting "no", not solely
because of the adverse recommendation of the
Comptroller's Office, but for reasons which
he previously had recorded for not agreeing
with the existing policy of the Board.
Mr. Davis then suggested, in view of the new policy of the
C°1143trolier of the Currency of recommending adversely in a number of
cases which, under
its present policy, the Board would approve, that

the Pl'actice of asking the Comptroller of the Currency for his recomillei1
deti°11 in connection with future applications of national banks for
POWers

be discontinued.
This suggestion was approved unanimously.

At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Goldenweiser, Paulger,
1)1'eibeibis, and
Wingfield left the meeting and the action stated with
r Pe
et to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then taken
the

Board:

The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Ped
el'sa Reserve System held on February 13, 1941, were approved unani43144.




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-8Memorandum dated February 11, 1941, from Mr. Wingfield, Assistant

General Counsel, recommending that there be published in the March

iselle of the Federal Reserve Bulletin statements in the form attached
to tu_
un memorandum
with respect to the following subject:
General Licenses Issued by the Secretary of
the Treasury.




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

01Z41.1GEL„ hr(
Secretary.