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Attached is a copy of the minutes of the meeting of the
_24rd of Governors of the Federal Reserve System with the Presidents
vI the
Federal Reserve Banks held on February 110 1958.
It is not proposed to include a statement with respect to
anv
4 of the entries in this set of minutes in the record of policy
?;etions required to be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the
rederal Reserve Act.
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Chm.
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Martin
Szymczak
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Gov.

Robertson
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Shepardson
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ccordance with Governor Shepardson's memorandum of March 8,
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A joint meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System and the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks was held at the
Federal Reserve Building in Washington, D. C., on Tuesday, February 11,
1958, at
2:03 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Szymczak 1/
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Carpenter, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Messrs. Erickson, Hayes, Williams, Fulton, Leach,
Bryan, Allen, Johns, Deming, Leedy, Irons,
and Mangels, Presidents of the Federal Aeserve
Banks of Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, Atlanta, Chicago, St. Louis,
Minneapolis, Kansas City, Dallas, and San 2rancisco, respectively 3/
Mr. Boysen, Secretary of the Conference of ?residents of the Federal Reserve Banks
Study of small business financing.

Pursuant to a suggestion

whiC h had been made by the Presidents' Conference, Mr. Young, Miss Burrs
andurKoch of
the Board's Division of Research and Statistics attended
this
Pal'u c)f the meeting for the purpose ofmaidnga progress report on
the .4.
-kiudY of small business financing.
Miss Burr summarized the reasons underlying the decision to make
the
ud_ ,
stY the scope of the survey program, the schedule for completion
Of the
11°rk.

first two parts of the program, and the current status of the
Mr. Koch then discussed the processing of data from the current

survey of
business loans, conducted in relation to the small business

messrs. Szymczak, Fulton, and Williams withdrew from the meeting
at the
points indicated in the minutes.




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financing study, and went on to describe plans for carrying out the
third :part of the study, consisting of a survey of borrowers, including both corporations and unincorporated businesses.

He concluded

uith the observation that the study as a whole could be regarded as
Progressing armroximately on schedule.
ti'ollowing a discussion on the basis of the report by

iss

tlurr and Mr. 'Aoch, Chairman Aartin referred to the bills introduced
in the House and Senate

y Congresar.an Patlan and Senator Johnson,

rc's:)ectively, which would authorize the estaLlishnent of a sstem of
businrss capitol banl:s and said that, although the Board had not
Yet had occasion to consider those bills, he would ask Mr. young for his
tentative views because of the reference to the bills in the seventh
-tu.c,ra

of the statement of tonics distributed by the Presidents' Conference

for d iscussion
at this joint meeting.
Mr. young first referred to the interest expressed on a recent
°ccesion by members of the Senate Banking and Currency Committee in
hay'
inr the Board's views on the small business situation by the first
Of

even thouLh i 'formation from the small business financing

ntu Y micht not be available by that time, in order that the Committee
rrjint ore
Pare for consideration of small business legislation. He then
discussed

:
urincipal features of the Johnson and i'iltAan bills, tbe natJr,-

the
problems involved in formulating a position with respect to such
1°Eislation, and modifying suggestions that might be considered which
11°u1d be in
the tone of constructive comments and thus avoid forcing
thr,
oystem into a defensive position.
r. l'ons then stated that on the basis of a rather hasty review
and

dIscussion of the Johnson and Pitman bills, the Presidents had




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certain preliminary views which it seemed desirable to pass on to the
Board at this time.

First, although the System favored the repeal of

section 13b of the Federal Reserve Act, there was some feeling among
the Presidents about circumventing the Treasury in the disposition of
section 13b surplus.

Second, it was the view of the Presidents that

careful consideration should be given to the question of transferring
t120 million from the section 7 surplus accounts of the Reserve Banks
direct to the small business capital banks.

Third, considerable doubt

had been expressed about the appropriateness of providing the capital
banks space in the Reserve Bank buildings free of rental charges.
Irons

Mr.

concluded by saying that the Conference Subcommittee on Legis-

lati°n was going forward with a study of the two bills and would submit
a report
shortly.
Ensuing comments were directed principally to the provisions of
the Johnson and Patman bills which would require that space for the ofof the capital banks be made available by the Reserve Banks.

It

was suggested, among other things, that confusion on the part of the
Public might
be created by the joint occupancy, that some of the Banks
d° not have space available beyond that required for their own operations,
that the whole matter of rentals charged to other Government agencies
vow,
-1.-u be brought into question, that there would be a question of the
Public identifying the capital banks as being a part of or associated
With the
Reserve Banks, and that providing space without charge would
Obscure
the actual costs of the capital bank system. Some of the
Presidents made it clear that their views on the space question and its
P°esible ramifications did not indicate that they were necessarily




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resistant to the whole idea of the proposed capital banks; however,
Mr. Erickson expressed the view, particularly on the basis of the
experience of the development corporations in the New England States,
that the possibility of obtaining private capital for the financing
needs of small business concerns should be explored fully.
During the foregoing discussion Governor Szymczak withdrew
from the meeting.
Membership dues and contributions.

Mr. Shepardson reviewed the

provisions of the letter sent by the Board under date of February 6,
1958, to the Chairmen and Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks concerning the basis that should govern Reserve Bank expenditures for
membership dues and contributions and discussed why the Board had coneluded that this approach was preferable to attempting to spell out
Particular types of expenditures that were appropriate or inappropriate.
He observed that discussions in which the Chairmen and Presidents had
Participated with the Board appeared to have clarified greatly the
Principles involved and said that he understood steps were already being taken within the feserve Banks in accordance with such principles.
Mr. Shepardson then noted that the need for exercise of discretion in such matters was pinpointed by the remarks of Congressman
Patman before the House Banking and Currency Committee on February 7,
1958) and that copies of the transcript of Mr. Patmanis remarks had
been
WaS

made available to the Presidents while the Presidents' Conference

in session
yesterday.
In further discussion Chairman Martin indicated that the Board

would want to consider making a reply to Congressman Patman's criticisms




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at some point and that it would be desirable for each President to
review the testimony as far as it affected his own Bank in order to
prepare for such response as might be decided upon.

Governor

Robertson added that it would be helpful if the Board could have the
benefit of each President's views after study of Mr. Patman's criticisms in the light of the Reserve Bank's records.

In this connection

it was noted that Mr. Patman apparently intended to insert certain
material in the record and the Presidents were advised that copies of
the complete record would be sent to them when it became available.
Question was raised whether the Board's letter of February 6,
1958, superseded previous communications on the subject of membership
dues and contributions, and the response was that the letter should be
read in conjunction with Item #3187 of the Federal Reserve Loose-Leaf
Service.
Reserve requirements. Before this meeting there had been distributed
to the Presidents copies of a memorandum prepared by Mr.
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board, entitled "Program for Revision
Of

Reserve Requirements,
' which discussed proposals that the Board was

considering for presentation to the Congress giving the Board authority
to make alterations in the existing system of reserve requirements and
also to change the level of total requirements in a manner intended to
maintain equitable relationships among banks and avoid conflict with
the aims

of monetary policy.

Distributed with the memorandum was

draft legislation which would carry those proposals into effect.
4ieflY, the draft legislation would first permit member banks, subject to such terms and limitations as the Board might prescribe, to




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count as required reserves all or part of currency and coin in vault or
on hand.

The second part of the legislation was in alternative forms.

The first alternative would provide that a member bank in a reserve
City might maintain the reserves required for country banks and that a
central reserve city bank might maintain the reserves snecified for
either a reserve city or country bank upon receiving permission from
the Board, either in individual cases or under regulations of the
Board, on such basis as the Board might deem reasonable and appropriate
in view of the character of business transacted by the member bank; and
for this purpose the Board might take into account the volume, composition or activity of the deposits of a bank, its location, or other
relevant factors.

The second alternative would provide in effect some-

what greater latitude for Board action since the Board could require,
ill the light of the same standard as under the first alternative, that
a member bank maintain any level of reserve balances within the existranges on demand deposits down to the lower limit of the present
"untry bank requirements.

A third provision of the draft legislation

llould allow the Board, within the maximum and minimum limitations specified for time deposits, to fix lower requirements for savings deposits
than for other
time deposits.
At the beginning of the discussion of this matter, for which
11r. Thomas was
called into the room, Chairman Martin reviewed the proP"ed legislation, including the alternatives set forth therein.

He

then stated that the Board would appreciate having the Presidents'
tentative views.
Pursuant to this request, each President in turn made a statement. 1,
,j.1.
on was obligedto leave the meeting before having an
oPoortunity to express his views.



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expressions revealed a unanimity of opinion in favor of an approach

such as
contemplated by the draft legislation. The principal reservations,
e:0101.
essed subject to more thorough examination of the implications of the
Ngested legislation, related to the extent of the administrative diffiiss that would be created for the Board in determining whether to
grant permission to banks to carry lower
reserve requirements within the
allth°ritY which would be permitted by the legislation.

While none of the

-luents appeared to feel that these problems would be insurmountable,
sorrle
were inclined to feel that they might be
severe. Others, however, sug?stscl that the
magnitude of the administrative burden could easily be
eXa
ggerated.
With reference to the alternative forms of draft legislation, Mr.
Mills summarized at the request of the Presidents the arguments which
rrlight be
made for legislation along the lines of the first alternative
Mr. Robertson reviewed the points tending to favor the second alter-.
4tive*

While there were shadings of opinion, a majority of the Presi-

(lents who
expressed a tentative choice favored the first alternative
because, in SUfluriary they felt that legislation phrased in such a manner
11041d
find more ready
acceptance within the banking profession and per—

Lap5

the

Congress, that the administrative problems would be less severe,

11'1 that
4.egislation
in this form would be sufficient to permit the Board
to A
''eal re
asonably well with the situation of individual banks, even in
:eit;
'Y like Chicago.

Those Presidents inclined to favor the second alter-

'
agreed generally with Mr. Robertson that there was much to be said
th
e greater
flexibility of action which would be permitted thereunder.




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The Presidents were unanimously in favor of the vault cash
proposal.

On the matter of obtaining legislation which would permit

a differential between reserve requirements applicable to savings and
to other time deposits, there was some difference of opinion.

A num-

ber of the Presidents indicated that the problem was not of such magnitude in their own districts as to make the question one of great
significance.

On the other hand, several stated that they would see

no objection to permissive legislation of the kind envisaged by the
draft legislation if the problem elsewhere, particularly in New York
City, was substantial enough to seem to warrant a distinction between
savings and other time deposits for reserve requirement purposes since
the theoretical justification for such a distinction was quite apparent.
The discussion concluded with a statement by Chairman Martin
that the Board would appreciate having the Presidents' further comments
as promptly as possible, for it had scheduled a meeting with representatives of the American Bankers Association for Friday, February 21, and
might move rather quickly thereafter to submit proposed legislation to
the

Congress.
Before this meeting the Presidents had submitted a memorandum

listing tonics that they would like to discuss with the Board.
topics,

The

the statement of the Presidents with respect to each, and the

discussion at
this meeting were as follows:
1. Arrangement for advising the Board of "straws in the
17/Inairraormation develo ed at directors' meetings
relating to current economic situation. The Confer- ,
ence had before it the Board's letter of January 25,1/
1958, asking that the Presidents discuss whether the
1/ Should have
read January 23



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existing procedure, established in response to Board's
letter of March 19, 1956, or some other arrangement
would be most effective in giving the members of the
Board the benefit of comments of Reserve Bank directors with respect to experiences, conversations, or
observations either in their awn business or otherwise which might indicate that the current over-all
economic situation was different from what the available statistics showed it to be.
The Presidents were of the view that a preferable
procedure for passing on to the Board of Governors information of the kind contemplated would be meetings
of the Federal Open Market Committee, in line with
the suggestion made in the Board's letter on the
subject.
In commenting, Chairman Leedy pointed out that the procedure
considered preferable by the Conference would permit all of the
Presidents to have the benefit of such information as might be reported from the various Banks.
Chairman Martin then stated that the Board would give further
consideration to the matter and advise the Presidents of its conclusions.
2. Safekeeping of securities by Federal Reserve Banks.
Mr. Fulton, Chairman of the Committee on Miscellaneous
Operations, presented for consideration by the Conference a report from the Subcommittee on Cash,
Leased Wire and Sundry Operations dated January 23,
1958, dealing with various matters assigned to the
Subcommittee for review, including the results of a
study of current safekeeping practices of the Reserve Banks, which was conducted following questions raised in the Board's letters of September 6
and September 19, 1957, concerning the safekeeping
function.




With respect to the safekeeping of government
securities awned by State and local governments,
Which was the subject of the Board's letter dated
September 6, the Conference noted that this topic
was considered by the Presidents in June 1943, at
which time the following agreement was reached:

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"Agreed that, while the members of the meeting
were in sympathy with the desirability of encouraging the investment of state and municipal funds in government securities, it would
be unwise to adopt a policy of extending safekeeping to all state and local governments
because it might overload the Reserve Banks'
vault facilities, and that, while the banks
should be free to extend the service where it
appeared to be desirable, there should be no
general invitation to states and municipalities to deposit their securities for safekeeping,"
The topic was again considered by the Presidents
in 1946 at which time the view was expressed that
. . in large part, the service had been a war
measure, and there was a general inclination to
terminate the facilities where this could be done
conveniently. Some Presidents expressed a desire
to continue the service, and it was felt, therefore, that pressure should not be used to close out
present accounts but that, where practicable, the
opening of new accounts should be discouraged."
The Conference at its current meeting reaffirmed
the position taken in 1943 and 1946, and agreed also
with the position originally taken by the Board in
this matter when the Board said that it would interpose no objection to providing safekeeping facilities
for government securities owned by states and municipalities.
The Conference gave consideration also to the
safekeeping of securities pledged by member banks as
collateral to deposits of public funds, as requested
in the Board's letter of September 19, 1957. Here,
too, the Conference found itself in continuing agreement with the Board's letter of September 29, 1939,
to the effect that this is a valuable service both
to member banks and public officials and should be
continued.
The Conference accepted the report of the subcommittee with the understanding that each bank
would review its over-all safekeeping practices in
the light of the material presented in the report.
After Chairman Leedy had reviewed the position taken by the
C°nference, Mr. Johns noted that he was in disagreement with the




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majority view.

513

He said that he found himself quite uncomfortable about

deciding questions of this kind on the basis of performing a service for
s
omebody.

In his opinion the question of the authority of the Reserve

Banks to perform certain functions under the statutes probably was not
related to the question of service.
Chairman Martin stated to Mr. Johns that the Board would bear
his comments in mind when considering the subcommittee report which was
accepted by the majority of the Presidents.

3. Study of the Federal Funds Market. In response to action
taken at the May 1956 meeting of the Conference, which
was subsequently approved by the Board, a special committee composed of representatives of the Reserve Banks
and the Board was appointed to undertake a study of arrangements for, and the uses and volume of operations
in Federal funds. The Conference received a report
dated December 1957 presenting the findings of the committee's study and the committee's conclusions and
recommendations.
The Conference expressed the opinion that the report is of such merit, and there is so little existing
material on the Federal Funds market, that the report
Should be edited with the view to publication.
The Conference also expressed the opinion that the
studies referred to in recommendations numbered 1, 3,
and 6 on page 23 of Part I "Summary and Recommendations"
should be pursued with the view to reporting back to
the Conference with respect to the manner of going forward with the studies recommended, but that studies
contemplated in recommendations 2, 4, and 5 should wait
until .reports under recommendations 1, 3, and 6 are
available.
It was also understood that the special committee's
study would be furnished the Open Market Committee as a
progress report in line with the understanding between
the Conference and the Committee when the study was
undertaken.
Mr. Bryan made a brief statement on the subject in which he reed to the
quality of the report, the recommendations therein, and




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the reaction of the Presidents' Conference to these recommendations.
It was understood that the recommendations would be considered
by the
Board.

L.

Research committees of the Federal Reserve System. At
the September 1956 meeting of the Conference and at
the joint meeting of the Board and the Presidents
held in conjunction therewith, a discussion was held
with respect to the need for reviewing the existing
mechanism for clearing research projects. In further
pursuance of this matter, a review has been conducted
of the history of the research organization in the
System and the evolution of the existing committee
mechanism. A document has been prepared on this
subject, which was received by the Presidents, and
Will be made available to the Board.
Mr. Bryan sumarized developments since the problems involved

in the
clearing of research projects were mentioned in September 1956
ana commended to the Board's attention the interesting document which
had been prepared on the history of the research organization in the
SYstem,

The document concluded, he said, with the suggestion for a

fresh look at the research mechanism and the Conference expressed a
great deal of sympathy with that suggestion. It was the consensus of
the
Conference that the present mechanism for clearing research projecte was excessively cumbersome and that some simpler structure of
c°mmittees would be desirable.

As a first step

therefore, the docu-

ment which he mentioned was being transmitted to the Board for consi
deration.

5.

Policy with res ect to distribution of Federal Reserve
Bulletin and other System publications. The Conference
gave consideration to the basis upon which the Federal
Reserve Bulletin and other System publications are
made available to member banks and others. In the
light of information given in the Board's letter of
January 24, 1958, supplemented by comments of Governor
Shepardson before the Conference, the Conference concurred in the proposed plan of discontinuing the




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-13present policy of furnishing additional free copies of
the Bulletin to branches of member banks, and adopting
a policy of providing one copy without charge to all
member banks, with a charge of 32.00 per annual subscription to be made for any additional copies desired
by member banks. The Presidents also were in agreement
that if the proposed policy were adopted there would be
few instances which would justify the Reserve Banks to
furnish free copies to member or nonmember banks in
their respective districts. The Presidents were also
in agreement that it is desirable to furnish the
Bulletin and other System publications free to former
directors who request them.
Following a statement by Chairman Leedy, Mr. Shepardson re-

ferred to a question which had arisen during his discussion with the
Presidents'
Conference concerning possible distribution by the Board
to

Reserve Bank directors of items such as speeches, statements before

Con
gressional committees, and similar items.

He said it was the feeling

Within the Board that it would be preferable to continue the procedure
according to which the Board sends such items to the Federal Reserve
BanIcs with the understanding that the respective Presidents will make
the decision regarding distribution to the directors.
In response to a question by Mr. Allen, Chairman Martin indicated that the Presidents would be informed when the new policy for
dist
ribution of the Federal Reserve Bulletin was placed in effect.

6. Contributions by Reserve Banks to NABAC Research
Institute. The Federal Reserve System has been asked
to lend financial support to NABAC Research Institute, a division of the National Association of Bank
Auditors and Comptrollers. The initial solicitation
was made to members of the Board's staff who suggested that the matter be taken up through NABAC
headquarters in Chicago with President Allen of the
Chicago Reserve Bank, with the view to having the
question placed before the Presidents' Conference
for discussion.
It was the view of the Conference that the Reserve Banks have their own special problems in the




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area of bank operations and the System is presently
proceeding with the necessary research with respect
to them, through committees and subcommittees of the
Conference, supplemented by the employment of outside research organizations, such as Stanford Research Institute which is presently engaged in research in the mechanization of check handling
operations.
The Presidents also expressed the opinion that
if the System lent its financial support to the
research programs of individual organizations such
as the NABAC, the System would be hard put to refuse requests for support from other similar
organizations. It was also the view that operational
research expenditures by the System should be channelled as directly as possible along lines which
Will lead to results in the operating problems
facing the Reserve Banks; also, a question was
raised as to the appropriateness of the System turning over substantial funds for operational research
Without retaining some voice in the manner in which
the research is conducted.
The Presidents agreed that NABAC is not the
best vehicle for conducting research in which the
System is interested and that the Reserve Banks
Should not provide financial assistance to the
project.
Following comments by Mr. Allen, Chairman Martin stated that

the Board concurred in the views of the Presidents' Conference and it
Ilas understood that Mr. Allen would advise the National Association of
Bank Auditors and Comptrollers of the decision that had been reached.

7.. Small Business Capital Banks. Mr. Irons reviewed
With, the Conference certain of the major proposals
included in the Small Business Capital Banks bill
introduced by Congressman Patman and a companion
bill by Senator Johnson. The members of the Conference
expressed the view that a number of the
provisions seemed to have special interest to the
System, which the members of the Conference desire
to discuss with the Board.
There was no further discussion of this topic, which had been
eovered

earlier in the meeting in connection with comments on the small




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business financing study.
8.

Currency and coin collectAons. Consideration of this
subject, dealing with currency collections, was initiated by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and
referred to the Presidents' Conference in Mr.
Carpenter's letter of October 11, 1957. The Conferenimapproved the following recommendations submitted by Mr. Allen, Chairman of the Committee on
Bank and Public Relations:
(1) Until October 1, 1958, no bank dispose
of duplicate or miscellaneous items except
to another Federal Reserve Bank. During
the intervening period, any bank which is
seeking items to round out its displays
will make its wants known to, and endeavor
to secure the desired items from other banks.
(2) Beginning October 1, 1958, the banks
will be free to dispose of miscellaneous and
duplicate items in accordance with procedures
to be fixed by a committee appointed b; the
Board of Governors. The Committee suggested
that the committee include, among others,
Board staff members from the Division of
Bank Operations and from the Legal Division,
and expressed the view that consultation with
the Treasury Department on the legal aspects
of disposing of currency items may prove
desirable.
In reviewing the background against which the question had been

raised by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, Mr. Allen explained that
the
problem involved particularly the disposition of certain currency
items which, although not in suitable condition for inclusion in Reserve
Bank

currency exhibits, were known to be worth more than face value.

He

said that both
he and the Board's General Counsel, with whom he had disel'ssed the
matter informally, considered it doubtful whether a Federal
Reserve Bank could sell such items at higher than face value and that
"nsultation with the Treasury Department at some point seemed desirable.
It was understood that the Board would consider the matter.




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Rebate of unearned interest on prepaid borrowings from
a Reserve Bank after a rate change. Presently, Reserve
Banks rebate unearned interest on borrowings repaid
before maturity at the rate at which the advance or
discount was made, provided that such rate is not
higher than the rate prevailing at the time of the
rebate, and in the latter event, the rebate is made
at the rate then prevailing. This practice which stems
originally from a ruling of the Federal Reserve Board
in 1915, was reconsidered by the Presidents in 1923
and 1930, and reaffirmed on both occasions. The question was raised at the current Conference in the light
of objections made by member banks to the present
policy, with the view to suggesting that the policy
be changed.
The discussion in the Conference revealed divided
Opinion as to the appropriateness of the present practice. It was agreed, however, that there was no particular need for uniformity in the practices of all the
banks, and that the matter should be referred to the
Board with the suggestion that each bank might determine its own policy with respect to the rate at which
rebates should be made.
Chairman Leedy reported that cases had been noted where resent-

!lent arose
on the part of member banks, particularly country banks, if a
borrowing from the Federal Reserve Bank extended some little time after
a reduction
of the discount rate and upon repayment prior to maturity
the rebate
of unearned interest was made at the rate then prevailing.
It was against this background that the question was raised within the
Pl'esidentet Conference, particularly since the Board's 1915 ruling was
issued when borrowing from a Reserve Bank was limited to rediscounting
f Paper and differentials in the rates for different maturities were
*equent.

their

Discussion of the matter found the Presidents divided in

opinion as to the preferable policy and it had been suggested

that perhaps this was a matter of discount window administration on
/4hich there was no need for uniformity throughout the System.




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in view of the 1915 ruling the Presidents would like to obtain the
views of the Board.
Mr. Deming stated that he had found the Minneapolis Bank following the practice of making rebates at the rate applicable to the
original note, presumably on the theory that the 1915 ruling was not
quite at point.

He went on to suggest that a Reserve Bank is not in

the rediscount operation to make money and that the administration of
the discount window does not turn on whether a member bank pays a
little more or a little less.

In this light, and since banks should

borrow only when there is a valid need, he wondered whether a Reserve
Bank might not just as well rebate at the original rate.
Discussion ensued concerning the practices of commercial
banks, following which some of the Presidents whose Banks had experienced little or no difficulty with the present procedure stated reasons
which might be given against a change in policy.
Chairman Leedy then stated that even if the present policy
were continued it would be helpful for the Board to issue an up-todate ruling on the subject so that it might be apparent to inquiring
nlember banks that the matter had been the subject of decision on a
more current basis than the 1915 ruling.
At the conclusion of the discussion, it was indicated that
the Board would take the matter under consideration and advise the
P
residents of its views.
During the foregoing discussion Mr. Williams withdrew from
the

meeting.




2/11/58
10.

-18Financial Institutions Act of 1957. In reviewing
pending bills affecting banking in the 85th Congress, reference was made in the Conference to the
provision in the Financial Institutions Act which
makes it a criminal offense for a Board or Reserve Bank employee to accept employment in a
member bank within two years of terminating employment with the Board or Reserve Bank except
upon approval of the Board. Members of the Conference desire to discuss the subject with the
Board with particular reference to the type of
rule or regulation the Board might possibly adopt
which would permit employment by a commercial
bank.
Mr. Irons explained that this provision might have an adverse

effect on the recruitment of Reserve Bank employees, particularly in
certain functions, unless the conditions upon which the Board would
grant approval were quite clear.
In response, Chairman Martin and Mr. Robertson assured the
Presidents that, although the Board had not yet had occasion to consider anything specific on the subject, any rule or regulation would
be directed toward the prevention of abuses and would be designed not
tO make
more difficult the problems of recruitment at the Reserve Banks.
It was pointed out that there are similar provisions in the bill which
apply to the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit
Insurance
Corporation.
Additional items of information arising out of current
Conference meeting. In addition to the foregoing matters, the following items of possible interest to the
Board were considered by the Conference. They are reported herein as a matter of information.




a.

The Conference approved a report of the
Subcommittee on Collections dated December 24, 1957, containing a recommendation
fcr approval of a proposal by the Bank
Management Commission of the A.B.A. for
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routing symbol in magnetic ink characters on checks, and other recommendations pertaining to routine matters
affecting the conduct of the cash and
noncash collection functions of the
Reserve Banks.
b.

The Conference received a report of the
Subcommittee on Accounting dated November 12, 1957, recommending expense items
considered appropriate for inclusion in
the gross expense figure of the Provision of Space function, which is used
as a basis for calculating space rental
charges to the Treasury and other governmental agencies. The report was referred to the Committee on Fiscal Agency
Operations for use in reconsideration of
the question of the rate of reimbursement charged government agencies for
rental of bank owned space.

c. In response to an assignment to study
the question of the disposition that
should be made of records accumulated
by the chairmen of committees and subcommittees of the Conference of Presidents, the Subcommittee on Retention
and Disposal of Records submitted a report dated December 11, 1957, expressing
the view that there appeared to be no
packaged solution to the disposition of
such records, and suggested that the retention or disposition of such records
be governed primarily by the judgment
of the respective chairmen based on the
recommended retention periods appearing
in the Manual Relating to Retention and
Disposal of Records at Federal Reserve
Banks, as revised April 1, 1957. The
Conference approved the report.
d.

The Conference received a memorandum
dated November 22, 1957, from the Subcommittee on Electronics covering a
meeting held by the Subcommittee in
New York on November 6, 1957, to discuss various matters concerned with
the research program into the mechanization of the Reserve Banks' check

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handling operations which is being conducted under the direction of the Subcommittee by Stanford Research Institute.
e.

A progress report of the Subcommittee on
Cash, Leased Wire and Sundry Operations,
dated November 21, 1957, was received by
the Conference, which dealt with routine
matters pertaining to the Federal Reserve
Leased Wire System.

There was no discussion of these items which, as the Pre

dents, Conference had indicated were presented as matters of information only.
Chairman Leedy reported that Mr. Erickson and Mr. Johns had
been elected Chairman and Vice Chairman, respectively, of the Presidents, Conference to serve until the conclusion of the first meeting
of the Conference held in or after February 1959.




The meeting then adjourned.

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