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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Thursday, December 9, 1943, at 11:00

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

MT.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinreferred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Peder8.1
Reserve System held on December 8, 1943, were approved unani11101181y.
Letter to MT. Day, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
San

Francisco, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors approves the changes in the
personnel classification plan of the Federal Reserve Bank
5 San Francisco and its Branches as submitted with your
letter of November 18, 1943, with the exception of the
changes in the Legal Department, namely the establishment
5 the new positions of Assistant General Counsel and
Legal Assistant and the discontinuance of the position
of Assistant to General Counsel.
"The positions of Assistant Counsel and Assistant
General
Counsel are regarded as official positions rather
than as positions to be covered under the personnel clasification plan. At the Federal Reserve Banks of New
lork and Chicago, the Assistant General Counsels are included in the list of officers as are the Assistant Counsels at the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston and Minneapolis.




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"These are the only Federal Reserve Banks now having such
positions.
"The Board is prepared to consider approval of a salary- for an Assistant General Counsel for your Bank whenever
Your directors elect someone to fill that position.
"It is understood that the establishment of the position of Assistant General Counsel is not proposed in contemplation of future expansion of the Legal Department,
but is proposed in view of the responsibilities which
have been placed on the Department and as part of the program for training an ultimate successor to your General
Counsel.
"It is noted that while you propose a maximum salary
735100
°f
for the position of Assistant General Counsel,
You do not intend to pay any such salary at this time.
In view of the fact that the establishment of the new official position of Assistant General Counsel will be part
of a training program, it is believed that the initial
salarY need not constitute the ceiling but that the proPosed maximum of ',7,500 can be considered the pattern
for the position within which future adjustments may be
made upon approval by the Board without certification of
the increase to the Joint Committee.
"Frau the description of duties of the present position of Assistant to General Counsel and the proposed posi'ion of Legal Assistant, it appears that the duties of the
"410 positions are essentially the same. The proposed maximum salary of P5,000 for the position of Legal Assistant,
as compared with the maximum salary of .,,/4,500 for the position of Assistant to General Counsel, therefore, in effect, represents an increase in salary which would have to
be certified to the Joint Committee. The Board is prepared
the discontinuance of the position of Assistant
to General
to
Counsel and the establishment of the position
of Legal Assistant, with maximum annual salary of t.5,000,
uPon receipt of an appropriate certificate to support the
increase in salary."

l

Approved unanimously, together with
the following letter to the Joint Committee
on Salaries and Wages:
"Under the procedure established by General Order No.
193 of the Tar Labor Board and the authority granted by
the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, transmitted herewith




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are the original and four copies of five certificates
of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco with respect
to increases in the maximum annual salaries, under the
personnel classification plan, for twelve positions at
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco and its Branches.
"These increases have been approved by the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System as submitted.
"In transmitting the certificates, attention is
called to the fact, which has been discussed with representatives of the Aar Labor Board and of the Commissioner
of Internal Revenue, that maximum annual salaries approved
under the personnel classification plan are not, in general, established rates paid for all employees coming
within the respective groups. They represent instead
laximums within which adjustments, including increases
due to individual merit and earned through long service,
may be made by the Reserve Bank without further reference to the Board of Governors."
Letter to "The Security State Bank of Pecos, Texas", Pecos,
Texa
8, reading as follows:
"The Board is glad to learn that you have completed
.a.11 arrangements for the admission of your bank to the
Federal Reserve System and takes pleasure in transmitting herewith a formal certificate of your membership.
"It will be appreciated if you will acknowledge receipt of this certificate."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the "American Bank & Trust Company", New Orleans,
LOuisiana

reading as follows:

"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has considered the application for permission to exercise fiduciary powers made by you on behalf of the Nation.?-1 American Bank of New Orleans, New Orleans, Louisiana,
he national bank into which the American Bank & Trust
Company, New Orleans, Louisiana, is to be converted, and
grants such national bank authority, effective if and
When it is authorized by the Comptroller of the Currency




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"to commence business, to act, when not in contravention
of State or local law, as trustee, executor, administrator,
r?gistrar of stocks and bonds, guardian of estates, as?lgnee, receiver, committee of estates of lunatics, or
ln any other fiduciary capacity in which State banks,
trust companies or other corporations which come into
competition with national banks are permitted to act
under the laws of the State of Louisiana, the exercise
of all such rights to be subject to the provisions of
the Federal Reserve Act and the regulations of the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.
"After the conversion of the American Bank & Trust
Company into the National American Bank of New Orleans
becomes effective and the Comptroller of the Currency authorizes the national bank to commence business, you are
requested to have the board of directors of the national
bank adopt a resolution ratifying your application for
Permission to exercise trust powers, and a certified copy
Of the resolution so adopted should be forwarded to the
. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta for transmittal to the
Board for its records. When a copy of such resolution
has been received by the Board, a formal certificate
covering the national bank's authority to exercise trust
Powers will be forwarded."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Lilliams, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
°f Philadelphia, reading as follows:
"There is enclosed a copy of a letter received by
'91e Board from Mr. L. B. Tyler, Executive Vice President,
seranton National Bank, Scranton, Pennsylvania, dated
ctober 30, 1943, with its enclosures, regarding the question of whether a practice of analyzing individual ac?ounte followed by the bank constitutes a 'payment of
Interest' on demand deposits.
"It appears that the bank, in analyzing the accounts
of
uses a form known as 'Monthly Account AnalYsle T. Use of the form involves the assessment against
the account of theoretical costs for certain services
Performed in connection with the account as follows:
Cheeks paid at five cents each, transit items at three

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-5"cents each, clearing house items at one cent each, deposits at five cents each, list checks at three cents
each, return items at ten cents each, and overdrafts at
fifty cents each. The total of these charges is designated in the analysis as 'Account Maintenance One Month'
and to this total there is added 15 per cent. At the same
time, the theoretical earning value of the account for
the month is estimated by deducting from the average
daily
collected balance an amount equal to the 18 per
cent required
reserves and treating the so-called 'Net
Earning Balance' as though the bank had it invested at
a rate of 1 per cent a year. If the cost of services,
estimated in the above manner, exceeds the theoretical
earnings on the account, the difference is set up as 'Cost
of Services
in Excess of Earnings'. Apparently, the cusmay
be charged this amount for the services rendered
,t_43mer
uy the bank. It is assumed, however, that in no case, as
!result of the analysis, is any payment made to the cus'i '?mer or any credit given which increases the amount of
is deposit balance.
"The question raised by the correspondence involves
the basic distinction between payments of 'compensation
for the use of funds' and charges made for keeping bal'flees and performing other services for a customer. There
is no
Federal law or regulation which prohibits a bank
r°a1 imposing so-called 'service charges' against a deP°sitor -- nor for that matter which requires it to receive deposits at all. Its relations with a customer and
the service charges which may be imposed are matters of
contract between the bank and the customer.
"It is not unusual for the management of a bank to
formulate some method of internal accounting designed to
enable the management to analyze individual deposit accounts and determine the terms and conditions under which
will keep and service such accounts for depositors.
tt is common for a bank using an account analysis also
Lo use as one of the factors in making the analysis its
e_stimate of
the return it can obtain by investing the
Ilunds which the customer has deposited with it. Likewise,
lt is common for such a bank to include in its analysis
e
stimated factors of cost in servicing the account. In
is_ome cases the result is that the customer is charged
?'Sr the bank for keeping and servicing the account. But
the Board does
not understand that in any case is a paymade to or for the account of the customer as 'comPensation for the use of funds'. As the Board understands




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"the facts, no payments are made at all. The analysis
is simply an internal arrangement to enable the bank to
determine whether it should make a charge. Under these
circumstances, the Board is of the opinion that, under
the facts of the specific case, the use of the 'Monthly
Account Analysis' is not a 'payment of interest' and,
accordingly, does not violate section 19 of the Federal
Reserve Act or the provisions of the Board's Regulation

Q.

"It will be appreciated if your bank will advise Ir.
Tyler in accordance with the views above expressed."
Approved unanimously, together with
the following letter to the Presidents of
all the Federal Reserve Banks:
k. "For your information in connection with the question whether a practice of analyzing individual accounts
followed by a bank constitutes 'a payment of interest'
on demand deposits, you will find enclosed a copy of a
letter of this date addressed to a Federal Reserve Bank.
Copies of the
correspondence in relation to this matter
have been furnished to the Comptroller of the Currency
and it is expected that there will be published in the
next issue of the Federal Reserve Bulletin a statement
containing the
substance of the ruling set forth in the
enclosed letter."
Letter prepared for the signature of Chairman Eccles to Honorable
Bernard M.

Baruch, Director of Advisory Board on War and Post-war

AclillstMent Policies, reading as follows:
. "This will refer to your letter of November 15, in
wh.l...ch you advised that Mr. Byrnes had asked you to develop
unlfied programs and policies for dealing with war and
Post-war adjustment problems, and inquiring as to what
aspects of demobilization concern the Federal Reserve
Board and as to the problems on which the Board may have
;clone some work. You also advised that you would like to
have any material, reports or memoranda that may have
been prepared in this agency on any aspect of these problems, as well as any statements reflecting our views.




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-7"Shortly after receipt of your letter, you and Mr.
Hancock came to luncheon and we discussed a number of the
aspects of post-war adjustment. As I outlined to you at
the time, the financial aspects are of chief concern to
this agency and have been the subject of our studies to
date. In our discussion, I made several suggestions for
financing the successive stages in the resumption of peacetime production, beginning with termination. I want you
to know that, responsive to your letter, I should be glad
at any time to confer further with you or anyone you might
designate.
"Since you and Mr. Hancock were here, we have been
stuctying the problem further, and within the course of a
few days, I hope to be able to place in your hands a memorandum on this subject. This paper will outline the
scope of existing financing facilities provided by the
Government and our suggestions for changing or re-adapting
these facilities in order to assure adequate financing
of termination, of the disposal of Government-owned war
Plants, machinery and supplies, of the reconversion of
war industries to civilian production, and the general
eell/uption of
business to peacetime production."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated December 4, 1943, from Messrs. Thomas and
41'17) Assistant Director of the Division of Research and Statistics
and
Chief of the Division of Security Loans, respectively, requesting
aPPrwal, for the reasons stated in the memorandum, for conducting for
the year
1943 the retail credit survey, one of the consumer credit
atatiQ44
-Li-Leal projects transferred to the Board of Governors from the
415ari-7.
-.Lent

of Commerce, it being proposed to expand the survey in only

elle important respect so as to collect from incorporated and unincorP°rated
respondents the basic items of their current assets and liabiliti

e8*

reed

The memorandum stated that the Federal Reserve Banks had

that the survey should be continued and that most of then




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falicred the inclusion of the liquid asset items.

Attached to the

mftcTandum was
a draft of the schedule tentatively proposed for the
collection
of the data.




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Chairman.