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A meeting of
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
was held in Washington on Friday, December 8, 1944, at 10:30

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Hammond, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Smead, Director of the Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Paulger, Director of the Division of
Examinations
Mr. Parry, Director of the Division of
Security Loans
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Attorney
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
There were presented telegrams to Mr. Flanders, President of
Pede
ral Reserve Bank of Boston, Messrs. Treiber and McCreedy, Secrett.ri
tte

es of the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and Philadelphia,
ell°ct* I
lve-q, Messrs. Leach and McLarin, Presidents of the Federal Reserve 8
p,

anks of Richmond and Atlanta, respectively, Mr. Dillard, Vice

titor
eilt of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, Mr. Stewart, Secrethe
41,1141,

Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, and Messrs. Ziemer and

:'ice Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of Minneapolis
:
0414 4
the Board approved the
st4gi re'ticisco, respectively, stating that

11111ent without change by the Federal Reserve Banks of St. Louis




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arkisA.„
rrancisco on December 5, by the Federal Reserve Bank of AtOn

41444

December 6, by the Federal Reserve Banks of New York, PhilaRichmond, Chicago, Minneapolis, and San Francisco on December

7, 191.,
"f4,

and by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston today, of the rates

Or di

--scount and purchase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Reference
was made to the procedure that might be followed at

the In
-eet g with the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks on Tuesday,
ileceraber 1,,
J"' 1944, which is to be devoted to a discussion of papers
III'ePal'ecl by members of the staffs of the Board and the Reserve Banks
ck the
subject of Banking and Credit Policy.
Upon motion by Mr. McKee and by
unanimous vote, the procedure to be followed during the meeting was referred to
Messrs. Eccles, Evans, and Goldenweiser,
With the understanding that the question
of the publication of the papers would
not be raised at this time.
Draper stated that a few days ago the Federal Reserve
of Boston received a request from the Military Affairs Commit-

r

the

Senate, which is investigating Mr. Robert A. Hurley and

tietItetiant Colonel
E. Heller in connection with their nominations as
that Mr. Pitman, Vice President
the
the taak, Surplus Property Board,

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come to Washington and bring with him the Bankts records,

P4cal Agent for the War Department, in connection with the fi444eirle by
the War Department of war production contracts with the




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Narra
gansett Machine Company of Pawtucket, Rhode Island.

Mr. Draper

als° said that Colonel Mechem of the War Department had requested by
teleph
'911e that the records referred to be made available to the Senate
0
orrgaittee by the
Federal Reserve Bank.
All of the members were agreed that,
in view of Colonel Mechem's request, there
was no reason why the records should not
be made available but that, on the con—
trary, the Board should cooperate with the
Senate Committee, and it was unanimously
understood that Mr. Smead would, (1) call
Mr. Pitman and tell him to bring the
records with him when he came to testify
before the Senate Committee, and (2) call
Colonel Mechem and ask him for a letter
confirming his telephone request that the
files in question be made available to
the Senate Committee.
In anticipation of discussions with the Presidents of the Fed—

ez,ki

see Banks
next week of matters on which the Presidents' Con—
terelle
e, which is meeting in Washington today and tomorrow, might wish
to
kake
'
l ecommendations to the Board, there was an informal discussion
(3t the t
Ilaemad °Pies on the agenda for the Presidents' Conference. Reference
e in this connection to proposed enabling legislation for the

tr
ttOr

kch

4°°ds

apreem.ents.

The members of the Board felt that, inas—

the draft of the legislation received from the Treasury Depart—
%It a
e l'4-ier in the week was in tentative form and was being studied
trlee

nierribers of the Board's staff for the purpose of a staff confer—
at th
e request of the Treasury staff, the matter was not at a point




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it could be
discussed profitably with the Presidents at this

tits, and
that in any event it could not be discussed without the perof the
Treasury.
14r. Szymczak reported that recently Mr. Harry White, Director
t14°rietarY Research in the Treasury Department, called on the tele111414e t° saY that he had appointments in Birmingham, Louisville, and
114111111e, for speeches on the Bretton Woods agreements and inquired
*tether the bankers in those towns would be interested in meeting with
f0I'luncheon discussions.

Mr. Szymczak said he got in touch with

the Presidents of
the Federal Reserve Banks of Atlanta and St. Louis
44 the
luncheon meetings were arranged.
At this
point Messrs. Goldenweiser, Smead, Paulger, Parry,

Vest,

allcltfyatt withdrew from the meeting.
The+
action stated with respect to each of the matters herein-

referred
pecierel. The

minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

Reserve System held on December

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"the
. J.

to was taken by the Board:

7, 1944, were approved unani-

Me'rlorandum dated November 29, 1944, from Mr. Paulger, Director

vision of Examinations, recommending that the basic salary of
Mee
lelland, a Federal Reserve Examiner in that Division, be infr°111 $5,000 to :!',5,200 per annum, effective December 16, 1944.




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Clark, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
Atlanta, reading as follows:
"In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of December 5,
1944, the Board approves the ap??.1ntrnent, effective December 1, 1944, of Adolphus D.
iblirn as an assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve
lBank of
Atlanta."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Koppang, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
knic of,
aansas City, reading as follows:
"As requested in your letter of November 29, 1944,
1;e Board of Governors approves, effective December 1,
the Payment of salary to Mr. R. J. McMullen as
a,glneer and Building Supervisor, Oklahoma City Branch,
the rate of 82,700 per annum, which is i53OO in excess
p̀l
. the
maximum provided in the personnel classification
Plan for
this position.
fo "Since a salary at the rate of $2,700 per annum
ojthe position
of Engineer and Building Supervisor,
orhorna City
Branch, was covered by the certificate enthosed vdth your letter of July 21, 1944, it is believed
it will not be necessary in this instance to subcertificate to the Joint Committee. Ac'
yo llglY, as requested, the certificate submitted with
letter of November 29, is being returned."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Day, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

q

-°00, reading as follows:
of

"The Board of Governors approves the establishment
!
l maximum annual salary of $7,500 for the position
ot g
er Examiner, under the personnel classification
re - of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, as
queted in your letter of November 16, 19411por it is noted that the description of work on the
111 A page submitted with your letter for the position




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"of Chief

Examiner is somewhat similar to the page now
ila-rcluded in the plan, whereas the duties and responsities of the position as reflected in the certificate
Uurnitted appear to be considerably broader.
"In the circumstances, it is suggested that the Form
4 page be
revised to reflect more fully the duties and resPonsibilities of the position as presently constituted."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the "Peoples National Bank of Edwardsville", Edwards7.111e, p
ennsYlvania, reading as follows:
s refers to the resolution adopted on April 25,
19
'l'qY the board of directors of your bank, signifying
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'"e banK i s
desire to surrender its right to exercise fiduci
arYpowers heretofore granted to it.
di "The Board, understanding that your bank has been
vrIZ!harged or otherwise properly relieved in accordance
a f" the law of all of its duties as fiduciary, has issued
.°Pmal certificate to your bank certifying that it is
h '°nger authorized to exercise any of the fiduciary
eWers covered by the provisions of section 11(k) of the
'ede
ol Pal Reserve Act, as amended. This certificate is en*4.°8ed h
erewith.
the ,"In this connection, your attention is called to
,',aet that, under the provisions of section 11(k) of
the .
eat r hederal Reserve Act, as amended, when such a certifipede -as been issued by the Board of Governors of the
siZal Reserve System to a national bank, such bank (1)
no longer be subject to the provisions of section
of the Federal Reserve Act or the regulations of
the
-oard of Governors of the Federal Reserve System made
,
pilr
to
t thereto, (2) shall be entitled to have returned
Stal"' anY securities which it may have deposited with the
or e or similar authorities for the protection of private
powcourt trusts, and (3) shall not exercise any of the
AotePs conferred by section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve
or trceePt with the permission of the Board of Governors
he
Federal Reserve System."

la(kt

Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. McRae, Chief National Bank Examiner at the




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Reserve Bank of Boston, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of May 9, 1944 and subsequent
correspondence regarding an inquiry which you
have received
from F. S. Moseley & Co., Boston, Massac
chusetts,
a member of the New
Stock Exchange, con4.erning the application of section 7(a) of Regulation T
:J..? certain
transactions conducted by that firm. Section
(ka) reads as follows:
'(a) Arranzinf; for loans by others. A creditor may arrange for the extension or
maintenance of credit to or for any customer
of such creditor by any person upon the same
terms and conditions as those upon which the
creditor, under the provisions of this regulation, may himself extend or maintain such credit
to such customer, but only upon such terms and
conditions, except that this limitation shall
not apply with respect to the arranging by a
creditor for a bank subject to Regulation U
to extend or maintain credit on registered seiiirities or exempted securities.'
rer,„ The inquiry resulted from an investigation by a
th esentative of the Securities Exchange Commission into
yer
,
activities of a securities dealer in Rochester, New
&c - This dealer had communicated with F. S. Moseley
in behalf of certain individuals to whom he had
e.s4-1 u
nregistered securities and F. S. Moseley had acted
A 2 loan broker in obtaining loans on these securities.
pli estion
_ . was raised by the Securities and Exchange Comwas r.investigator as to whether F. S. Moseley& Co.
Of t ctlng in conformity with section 7(a) in this type
ransaction and also in its other activities as loan
broker.
Vesti"It is our understanding that subsequent to the inanee-gation, F. S. Moseley & Co. discontinued the acceptdOf loan brokerage business from securities brokers
- 4-ers, so far at least as unregistered securities
are'
concerned, and the only question remaining relates to
"'
ier activities as loan broker.
in 0,34If the persons for whom F. S. lioseley & Co. acts
t .,_ining loans are its 'customers' within the meaning
:
4°n 7(a), then it is clear that F. S. Moseley & Co.
coltlf-le'
not arrange loans for them on unregistered securities.

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'customer' is defined in section 2(c) of the
regulation in the following language:
'(c) The term "customer" includes any
Person, or any group of persons acting jointly,
(1) to or for whom a creditor is extending or
maintaining any credit, or (2) who, in accord—
ance with the ordinary usage of the trade, would
be considered a customer of the creditor. **it'
.
ma. F. S. Moseley & Co. does not extend credit to or
Intain credit for the persons for whom the firm acts
i-fl o
btaining loans, so the application of the regulation
bePends upon whether or not they would be considered to
,customers 'in accordance with the ordinary usage of
a'lle trade'. The
facts bearing on this question are that
clitllough F. S. Moseley & Co. is a broker and dealer in se—
rj
ltles, the loan brokerage business is operated as a sepa—
isL'e department and no loan is arranged for any person who
a 1.1stomer of the securities department.
dic,,'Inquiry among securities brokers and dealers has in—
of-:''ed that loan brokerage is not considered to be a part
'the securities business, and consequently it appears to
the
° ard that unless the persons for whom loans are nego—
ti„B
fi'ed are customers of the securities department of the
they would not be customers within the meaning of the
'
I m as used in Regulation T.
act. "The Board is therefore of the opinion that the stated
ecrratTiot: of F. S. Moseley & Co. as loan broker would not
Regulation T."
Approved unanimously.
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Letter to
Mr. Hinrichs, Acting Commissioner of Labor Statistics,
Labor Statistics, Labor Department, reading as follows:

arid "In accordance with your letter of October 14, 1944,
a 8,!ubsequent telephone conversations, there is enclosed
pecletement showing the total number of employees of the
Reserve Banks on September 30 and October 31, and
the ral
„
total
Pay rolls for September and October 1944, classi—
4-led
*
'
7 states.
In future these data will be forwarded for each month
a8
as they are available."




Approved unanimously.

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-9Telegram to the Presidents of all the Federal Reserve Banks

reaaias follows:
. "The Veterans Administration has requested that the
,
fo
Ott°113-ng information regarding the preparation and use
al,'orms 1800, 1801, 1802, 1803, and 1806 be made availu-Le to banking institutions in your district:
'The determination of eligibility of the
veteran requires the Veterans Administration
to inspect original records in the possession
of the veteran or in lieu thereof to refer to
records in the files of the Veterans Administralon or in the files of the Service departments
(War Department, Navy Department, /arine Corps,
or Coast Guard).
'It is recommended that lenders endeavor
to have the veteran where practicable furnish
the lender with evidence of eligibility in the
form of discharge or separation papers or Certificate in Lieu of Lost or Destroyed Discharge,
or properly authenticated photo copies of discharge or separation papers to be dispatched to
the Veterans Administration together with Form
1800 properly completed.
'A photo copy of discharge or separation
Papers furnished to the veteran by the Service
department may be considered to be properly authenticated if such photo copy is issued under
the seal of the Service department. Photo copies
of original discharge or separation papers prepared by persons or agencies other than Service
departments may be considered to be properly
authenticated if such copies are certified by
and bear the seal of a Notary Public or other
°facer authorized by law to administer oaths
or take acknowledgments.
'Statement should be placed on the request
for Certification of Eligibility (Form 1800)
outlining the type of evidence submitted, if such
action is taken, and also a statement of the "C"
nl:/mber of the applicant, if a "C" number was assigned by the Veterans Administration and this




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number is known to the applicant. A "C" number
is a Veterans Administration file number which is
assigned by the Veterans Administration to applications for pension and for certain other benefits.
'Form 1800 filled in and any supporting documents should be forwarded to the Regional Office
or Combined Facility of the Veterans Administration
located in the State in which the veteran resides.
These offices should not be confused with the four
Loan Guaranty Division offices hereinafter named.
tA discharge or other evidence of eligibility
Which is submitted with a request for Certification
of Eligibility will be returned by the Veterans Administration with the Certification of Eligibility
to the lender who shall return such evidence to the
applicant.
'If the veteran is eligible and the Administrator of Veterans Affairs has not already issued
guaranties in respect of the veteran totaling
$2,000 (the maximum amount which may be guaranteed
under the Act), the remainder of the form will be
completed and executed by the loan guaranty officer
of the Veterans Administration and the original of
the form will be returned to the lender. The lender
should be sure to include on Form 1800 the address
or location of the property to be appraised.
'The lender should then arrange for the preparation of the Loan Guaranty Certificate and Application for Home Loan Guaranty (Finance Forms 1801 and
1802) and, if any real estate is to be mortgaged,
the lender should arrange with the appraiser designated by the loan guaranty officer on the Certificatlon of Eligibility (Finance Form 1800) for the
Preparation of the Appraisal Reports (Finance Form
1803). The executed original of the Application
Ior Home Loan Guaranty, the Appraisal Report (if any),
and the other papers required to be submitted pursuant to sections 36.4024, 36.4025, and 36.4032 of
the regulations of the Administrator of Veterans
Affairs regarding the guaranty of home loans should
be fo1arded by the lender to the Loan Guaranty
'!-vision for the States listed below, unless some
.2„;ther agency is designated on the Certification of
to receive the application.




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Servicing the States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode
Island, Connecticut, New York and New
Jersey.
'2. 1fliri ton, D C. 300 IndianaA
Servicing the States of Pennsylvania,
Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West
Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, South
Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama,
Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky and
the District of Columbia.
.
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a
• MI
.14
Streets
Servicing Arizona, California, Nevada,
Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana,
Wyoming, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico.
1 4.
Servicing Illinois, Michigan, Indiana,
Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Missouri, Nebraska,
Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas and
Louisiana.
'Any questions arising in connection with the
Preparation or handling of such forms should be taken
uP With Regional Offices or Combined Facilities of
the Veterans Administration.'"




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Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Chairman.