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Minutes for December

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

4, 1964

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov, Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Friday, December

4, 1964. The Board met in the Board

ROOM at 1:40 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman 1/
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Tarver, Chairman, Federal Reserve Bank
of Atlanta
Mr. Cheatham, Deputy Chairman, Federal Reserve
Bank of Atlanta

Governor Balderston noted that this meeting was being held
in accordance with Chairman Martin's recent discussion with Chairman
Tarver, who wished to present some proposals regarding the Federal
Reserve Bank of Atlanta.
Chairman Tarver stated that he and Mr. Cheatham had been
asked by the directors of the Atlanta Bank to present to the Board
aM to obtain the Board's approval of a plan they had worked out in
connection with the prospective retirement of President Bryan at
the end of
aUmmer of

1965. The plan involved bringing in sometime during the

1965 Mr. M. Monroe Kimbrel as Senior Vice President with

the expectation that upon Mr. Bryan's retirement Mr. Kimbrel would
become

First Vice President of the Bank to serve until Mr. Patterson,

Who would be made President to succeed Mr. Bryan, attained age
°A May 15, 1968.

65

The directors of the Bank had given long considera-

tion to the management succession problem at the Bank and had concluded

.17-J6ined meeting at point indicated in minutes.

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that the Bank did not now have persons on its staff who would be
most suitable for the presidency when Messrs. Bryan and Patterson
ceased to serve.

In considering different individuals the directors

had sought to have a man who was of the right age, who was known
favorably within the banking and business community of the Atlanta
District, and who would add prestige to the Federal Reserve Bank
in its relations with the business community.

They had come to the

conclusion,after considering different solutions to their problem,
that Mr. Kimbrel, who is presently Chairman of the Board of the
First National Bank of Thomson, Georgia, and who is currently serving as a director of the Atlanta Reserve Bank, met their necessary
qualifications in a most satisfactory manner.

Therefore the directors

Proposed to appoint Mr. Kimbrel as Senior Vice President effective
approximately July 1, 1965, with the understanding that he would
become generally acquainted with the Bank in the several months
prior to Mr. Bryan's retirement at the end of 1965 when he (Mr. Kimbrel)
would be made First Vice President succeeding Mr. Patterson.

Mr. Tarver

stated that one of the problems that had been presented related to Mr.
Kimbrel's holding of bank stocks.

He was prepared to dispose of the

stock he now held in the First National Bank of Thomson and of stock
held in one other bank.

However, he also held stock in a relatively

new nonmember State bank at Fort Valley., Georgia, which he desired
for various reasons to retain in his family, and he proposed to place

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the stock in a trust indenture that
would be revocable only upon
his leaving the Federal Reserve System
or upon his death.

Chairman

Tarver stated that he would like to know whether the Board would
have any objection to an arrangement under which Mr. Kimbrel retained this bank stock in the manner described.
Governor Mills stated that he would be interested in having
some comments on whether the arrangement for bringing Mr. Kimbrel
in in the number three position in the Bank was desirable.

In

Other words, would such an arrangement give Mr. Kimbrel the
status
that would be most helpful to him
in assuming the responsibilities
contemplated.
Chairman Tarver's response was that the directors had reviewed the matter thoroughly and that they felt, as did President
Bryan, the best arrangement
from the standpoint of both the Bank
and Mr. Kimbrel would be to bring him in as Senior
Vice President
Prior to Mr. Bryan's retirement.

This had also been discussed with

Mr. Kimbre4 who was interested in becoming associated with the Reserve Bank and who was entirely agreeable to the proposed arrangeillent.

Mr. Cheatham added the comment that when the directors had

discussed this matter with Mr. Kimbrel he had expressed an interest
in the arrangement, but that he clearly understood that there would

be no commitment as to his succeeding to the presidency, although
the expectation and hope would be that both Mr. Kimbrel and the Bank
vould desire such an arrangement a couple of years hence.

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Governor Robertson remarked that his own judgment would
have differed from that indicated by Chairman Tarver but that, apart
from the desirability of bringing a man such as Mr. Kimbrel in in
the third position in the Bank, he wondered what basis there was
for feeling that the Board would approve the appointment of Mr.
Patterson as President during the period between Mr. Bryan's retirement and Mr. Patterson's reaching age 65.

He was under the

impression that the Board had had some doubts as to whether this
would be a desirable arrangement, and for his own part he wondered
whY -- if Mr. Kimbrel was the man -- he was not made President
immediately upon Mr. Bryan's retirement.
Chairman Martin and Mr. Hackley, General Counsel, entered
the room at this point.
After Governor Balderston and Chairman Tarver had reviewed
briefly the proposal of the Atlanta Bank, Chairman Martin referred
to the matter of holding bank stocks.

He noted that,while a Class C

director of a Federal Reserve
Bank was precluded from awning bank
stock, there was no prohibition under the law against ownership of
such stock by an individual simply because he was an officer of a
Reserve Bank.

He then inquired of Mr. Hackley whether he knew of

anY reason why the trust indenture arrangement mentioned would not
be acceptable.
Mr. Hackley responded that there was no statutory prohibition against the President of a Federal Reserve Bank owning bank

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stock.

Therefore, from the legal standpoint there could be no

objection raised to Mr. Kimbrel's placing the bank stock in trust
In the manner proposed.

Apart from the matter of law there was,

of course, the question of policy, which was a matter for the Board
to decide.
Chairman Martin commented that from the standpoint of public
relations one of the matters to be considered was the fact that Mr.
Kimbrel had served as President of the American Bankers Association

in 1963 and that this association might raise questions in the minds
Of some individuals.

On the other hand, it could be considered an

asset in one respect, since Mr. Kimbrel was particularly representative of numerous smaller banks.
Chairman Tarver stated that he had complete confidence in
Mr. Kimbrel as an individual, that he believed this plan was highly
satisfactory, and that Mr. Kimbrel was well and favorably known
among bankers and businessmen in the Atlanta District as well as
among many of the Congressional representatives.

He then referred

to Governor Robertson's remark about the possibility of making Mr.
KiMbrel President upon Mr. Bryan's retirement and leaving Mr. Patterson

in the position of First Vice President. Such a move would create a
tremendous internal problem, Mr. Tarver said, and upset what he and
the other directors had come to believe would be a smooth and orderly
transition in the presidency over a two- or three-year period.

He

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had discussed this fully, not only with the directors, but with
Mr. Bryan, and Mr. Bryan was perhaps even more convinced that the
best arrangement would be the one presented by the directors of
the Bank.

Chairman Tarver said that he personally agreed that Mr.

KiMbrel could begin next month in the post of President and that
he would quickly earn the regard of people within the Atlanta Bank
and in the community.

He had gone on the assumption that the ar-

rangement that the directors were proposing would be acceptable to
all concerned, it never having entered his head that there was a
question about Mr. Patterson's succeeding to the presidency upon
Mr. Bryan's retirement.

If the directors could not carry forward

the plan as proposed, they would be presented with a very real
Problem, the solution to which he could not at this time visualize.
Governor Shepardson commented that, although Mr. Tarver
had spoken of Mr. Patterson's interim filling of the presidency
for a period until May of 1968, under the procedure for appointing
Presidents the man approved by the Board effective March 1, 1966,
Would be appointed for a term of five years.

He wondered whether

it was clearly understood that Mr. Patterson's appointment would
be with the understanding that he would resign upon attaining age

65,
Chairman Tarver responded that this was very clearly understood by the directors of the Atlanta Bank as well as by Mr. Bryan

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and Mr. Patterson.

He would have no objection to asking Mr. Patterson

to put in writing his understanding and resignation as of that time.
Furthermore, Mr. Tarver said, Mr. Patterson
was fully aware that
Mr. Kimbrel would not be willing to come into the Atlanta Bank unless it was expected that he would become President in May 1968 when
Mr. Patterson reached 65.
In sum, Mr. Tarver said, the directors of the Atlanta Bank
were aware that the succession problem was one with which they must
grapple, they had given a great deal of time and thought to trying
to work out an arrangement that would be in the best interests of
the Bank both internally and externally, and the directors were
unanimous in feeling that this was the best arrangement they had
been able to come up with.

Personally, Mr. Tarver said, he felt

this way and he would like to know that the executive committee
could carry through with the plan as outlined.
Chairman Martin stated that the Board would consider the
matter further and that he would get in touch with Mr. Tarver early
in the week to talk with him further about the Board's views.
The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary