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Minutes for December 27, 1965. To: Members of the Board From: Office of the Secretary Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the above date. It is not proposed to include a statement th respect to any of the entries in this set of 711nutes in the record of policy actions required to be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act. Should you have any question with regard to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise t_he Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial , low If you were present at the meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If You were not present, your initials will indicate (341Y that you have seen the minutes. Chm. Martin Gov. Robertson Gov. Balderston Gov. Shepardson Gov. Mitchell Gov. Daane Gov. Maisel Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve SYstem on Monday, December 27, 1965. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m. PRESENT: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Robertson, Acting Chairman Shepardson Mitchell Maisel Mr. Sherman, Secretary Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary Mr. Young, Senior Adviser to the Board and Director, Division of International Finance Mr. Holland, Adviser to the Board Mr. Solomon, Adviser to the Board Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board n Mr. Goodman, Assistant Director, Divisio of Examinations of Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office the Secretary Mr. Furth, Consultant , Bernard, Messrs. Brill, Koch, Partee, Axilrod n of Divisio the of Keir Eckert, Ettin, and ics Research and Statist n of Messrs. Baker and Gemmill of the Divisio International Finance Money market review. se- Mr. Bernard presented a review of Government rities market developments, referring in the course of his comments to tables that had been distributed on money and capital market perspective, on l'ecent interest rate developments, and on bank reserve utilization. The ataff then responded to various questions asked by members of the Board, after which Mr. Gemmill reported on foreign exchange market developments 44d related matters. Ettin, Keir, Baker, Messrs. Goodman, Axilrod, Bernard, Eckert, Gernmii and Furth then withdrew and the following entered the room: 12/27/65 -2- Mr. Hackley, General Counsel Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations Mr. Hexter, Associate General Counsel Mr. O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Kakalec, Controller Miss Hart and Messrs. Heyde and Smith of the Legal Division Messrs. Burton, Egertson, and Lyon of the Division of Examinations Discount rates. The establishment without change by the Federal Reserve Banks of Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas City, and Dallas on December 23, 1965, of the rates on discounts and advances in their existing schedules was approved unanimously, with the understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to those Banks. Resort on com etitive factors A report Jacksonville -Boone North Carolina to the Comptroller of the Currency on the competitive factors involved in the proposed merger of First National Bank of Boone, Boone, North Carolina, into First National Bank of Eastern North Carolina, Jacksonville North Carolina, was approved unanimously for transmittal to the Comptroller. The conclusion read as follows: The proposed merger of First National Bank of Eastern North Carolina, Jacksonville, and First National Bank of Boone would have no adverse effect on competition. 112plication of Barnett National Securities Corporation (Items 1 . 411d 2\ There had been distributed drafts of an order and statement fleeting the Board's denial on November 3, 1965, of the application Of B arnett National Securities Corporation, Jacksonville, Florida, to accitv -Lre shares of First National Beach Bank, Jacksonville Beach, 4cks onville Beach, Florida. 41 12/27/65 $•••• -3After a discussion during which several changes in the statement were agreed upon, the issuance of the documents was authorized. Copies of the order and statement, as issued, are attached as Items 1 and 2. Research •ro ect on links between monetar demand • olic and re ate A memorandum dated December 21, 1965, from Mr. Brill, which had been to enter into distributed to the Board, requested authorization 4 contract with the Social Science Research Council for a research project the linkages between monetary policy and aggregate demand, that is, on the effects of financial factors on spending and investing. The Project would be undertaken by a research team headed by Professor Franco 11(3digliani of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Professor Albert Ando of the University of Pennsylvania. Expenditures under the contract were estimated at $90,000, of which about 40 per cent would be year spent in the calendar year 1966 and the remainder in the calendar This expenditure would be in addition to the $20,000 included 1967. in the 1966 Statistics for conbudget of the Division of Research and research tion of the Social to be undertaken under the administra Science Research Council. proposed project and of Following a discussion of the presently the P°ssibility that other economists holding somewhat different points Of v. projects, it was lew might likewise seek financial aid on research reed that it was important to gain as much information as possible on the 1. research proposals in this lnkage process and that any additional 12/27/65 -4- area should be evaluated on their merits. Unanimous approval then was given to the proposed contract with the Social Science Research Council, as described in Mr. Brill's memorandum, with the understanding that this action also authorized any resulting overexpenditure in the approPriate account of the 1966 budget of the Division of Research and St atistics. Commingled investment account (Item No. 3). In a letter to the Board dated November 24, 1965, Chairman Patman of the House Banking and Currency Committee stated that he had asked the Attorney General to consider criminal action against First National City Bank, New York, New York, if its plan to launch a proposed commingled investment account was carried out "in contravention of section 2l, of the Banking Act of As a result of the request, Mr. Fred M. Vinson, Assistant Attorney 1, had asked the Board in a letter of December 14, 1965, to supply 411Y information it might have concerning the proposal of First National CitY Bank, including copies of all documents submitted by the bank in 84PPort of its proposal. The letter also stated that the Justice Depart- Itient would be pleased to receive any comments or opinions of the Board colic ning the legality of the proposed action. A distributed memorandum prepared in the Legal Division under date of and December 21, 1965, submitted a draft of reply to Mr. Vinson refe,_ ' red to various enclosures also proposed to be sent. The memorandum t oted wlth respect to a Legal Division memorandum previously sent to 12/27/65 -5- Chairman Patman on this subject, that it was not customary to release un published documents prepared for a Congressional Committee to other Persons or agencies, but in view of Chairman Patman's interest, as indicated by his letter to the Attorney General, it was felt the Board might like to make an exception in the present case. Unanimous approval was given to furnishing the suggested material to th a e Justice Department. A copy of the letter sent to Mx. Vinson is ttached to these minutes as Item No. 3. Chase Manhattan proposal. In response to a question regarding the status of the proposal of The Chase Manhattan Bank (National Association), New York, New York, to acquire stock of Liberty National Bank and Trust Company of Buffalo, Messrs. Hackley and Hexter recalled that Chase's request for a section 301 determination, or in lieu thereof a 143ting permit, was being held in abeyance pending receipt by the Board from counsel for Chase of a brief on the voting permit matter. Meanhowever, the Comptroller of the Currency had advised Chase that the Proposed transaction could not be consummated without his approval uhde r the Bank Merger Act. The Legal Division had now received from ecslinsel for Chase a copy of an application addressed to the Comptroller. That application therefore was now before the Comptroller, who presumblY llould request competitive factor reports, and until his decision Ilas made the Board apparently had no reason to take action. If the C°mPtroller should approve the application, the matter of Chase's ecitiest for a voting permit would again become active. A 12/27/65 -6- After discussion of various facets of the matter, it was generally agreed that no action on the part of the Board was called for at this time. The meeting then adjourned. Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf of the Board a memorandum from the Division of Bank Operations dated December 21, 1965, recommending that Robert B. Haycock, Analyst in that Division, be designated as a witness to the mutilation of facsimile signature plates of Reserve Bank officers in lieu of Daniel E. Lucas. Secre , [2f7 1 ' 44 Item No. 1 12/27/65 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BEFORE THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON, D. C. Itt the Matter of the Application of 8ARNETT NATIONAL SECURITIES CORPORATION, JACK SONVILLE, FLORIDA, tar sharapproval of the acquisition of voting eJ3 of First National Beach Bank, nville Beach, Jacksonville Beach, 4.0rida, ORDER DENYING APPLICATION UNDER BANK HOLDING COMPANY ACT There has come before the Board of Governors, pursuant to section 3(a)(2) of the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 (12 U.S.C. 1842(a)(2)) and section 222.4(a)(2) of Federal Reserve Y (12 CFR 222.4(a)(2)), an application on behalf of 84rtlett a National Securities Corporation, Jacksonville, Florida, t tegis-ered bank holding company, for the Board's approval of the c11(14isi t-4 ---40n of 80 per cent or more of the voting stock of First National 11401 13 -11 2 Jacksonville Beach, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. As required by section 3(h) of the Act, the Board notified 41Q co rliPtroller of the Currency of receipt of the application and (111set d e h 'Lis views and recommendation thereon. The Comptroller voiced - 442f -2- Notice of receipt of the 4° objection to approval of the application. 41'111ication was published in the Federal Register on August 25, 1965 (3o Federal Register 11006), which provided an opportunity for subnliesien of comments and views regarding the application. Time for fiat, "g such comments and views has expired and all comments and views ftled with the Board have been considered by it. IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, for the reasons set forth in the Board's Stat etnent of this date, that said application be and hereby is denied. Dated at Washington, D. C., this 27th day of December, 1965. By order of the Board of Governors. Voting for this action: Unanimous, with all members present. (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary. (sEAL) 41,4, Item No. 2 12/27/65 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM APPLICATION BY BARNETT NATIONAL SECURITIES CORPORATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ACQUISITION OF VOTING SHARES OF FIRST NATIONAL BEACH BANK, JACKSONVILLE BEACH, JACKSONVILLE BEACH, FLORIDA STATEMENT Barnett National Securities Corporation, Jacksonville, Florida .. (11A1101 leant" or "Barnett"), a registered bank holding company, has Company Act of aPPlied to the Board of Governors, under the Bank Holding 1956 ("the Act") of the for permission to acquire 80 per cent or more 11°ting stock of First National Beach Bank, Jacksonville Beach, Jacksonville Florida ("Bank"). Views and recommendation of supervisory authority. - As ed tile by Comptroller section 3(b) of the Act, the Board notified the Currency of receipt of the application and requested his views alldrecommendation 44rova1 thereon. The Comptroller voiced no objection to of the application. requires the Board Statutory factors. - Section 3(c) of the Act to tak (1) the financial e into consideration the following five factors: histon, concerned; -I and condition of the holding company and the banks (Z) heir management; (4) the Prospects. (3) the character of their topive communities and the area concerned; Ilience, needs, and welfare of the -2- atici(5) whether or not the effect of the proposed acquisition would be to eXPand the size or extent of the bank holding company system involved "Q limits consistent with adequate and sound banking, the public igter est, and the preservation of competition in the field of banking. The Board has this date announced approval of an application by t arnett to acquire controlling stock ownership of its affiliate, tattle tt First National Bank of Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Florida. First National kee()rdinglY, for purposes of this Statement, the Barnett 11411k oc k Applicant. Jacksonville will be treated as a subsidiary bank of Applicant's holding company system is comprised of six 1/ had combined deposits subsidiary banks which, at December 31, 1964, (341)tlt $235 million. Three of the banks are in Jacksonville and the °ther three are located, respectively, at St. Augustine, DeLand, aocl to acquire --(3°°a. By this application, Applicant seeks permission 0 nlY bank in Jacksonville Beach, located about 18 miles east of 44eks()tiville. ot Bank has deposits of $9.4 million. management lInancial history and condition, prospects, and A Dii ant and Bank. - The financial history and condition of Ap °lea nt are satisfactory. Its prospects, viewed in the light of the 8°114d condition and satisfactory deposit and earnings growth of Its -Qu°sidiary banks, appear favorable. Its management is regarded .aPable and experienced. 8 as of this date. otherwise indicated, all banking data noted are -3- Bank was chartered as a State banking institution in 1938 arid converted to a national bank in 1960. StenA Bank's growth has been -"Y and its operations reasonably profitable. and condition are satisfactory. kture scWad Bank's financial Based thereon, and on the growth potential of its service area, prospects for Bank's growth, eitl;er continuing operation independent of Applicant's e°11tr°1 or as a subsidiary of At.plicant, ap,pear favorable. Bank's principal ocni -;er and chitaf executive officer, 41thou, g" 74 years of age, is regarded as a competent bank officer. Icecuttve vice president, who is 54 years of age, has had more 44 25 Years' banking experience (11 years with Bank) and is also e°11sidered competent. Although the latter-mentioned officer has Suffe ted ill health, it is not made to appear that his earlier illness Vould Prevent his taking charge of Bank when the chief executive retires. Applicfmt asserts that the age and health factors respecting these tv° princioal officers will soon present a management succession Nbien, — that cannot be sOlved internally and that Bank, because of its tize unable to attract and retain qualified top management personnel. i8 t he Board recognizes that Applicant could, with its pool of eed managerial talent, readily solve management succession hoblem 8 stich which Bank might encounter, it does not agree that Bank could an independent institution, provide its own solution to any management 131.°blems. Apart from the fact that the problem of klecess time to be conjectural, l°n or replacement in Bank appears at this -4even , suould Bank have need to seek management succession from outside, it aPPears to the Board that Bank's efforts would prove successful. i8a SW million-asset institution with a good earnings record. Bank It is 8it4ated only 13 miles from Jacksonville and within that city's metropolitan 4". These considerations should give Bank reasonable, and perhaps "vantageous, access to qualified managerial talent within and beyond the State ur Florida. Nothing in the record before the Board suggests a contrary ec)nelusion. Accordingly, while Applicant's acquisition of Bank could "Wide Bank with a convenient and reasonable solution to any future Ptobi ems of management succession, for the reasons given this consideration cic es n -°L weigh significantly in favor of approval of the application. Convenience, needs and welfare of the communities and ncerned. - Bank's primary service areais delineated roughly 44 4 rec t. - -angular area extending along the Atlantic coastline for 44toxi —matelY 15 miles from north to south and 2-1/2 to 4 miles from east to - 'west. The area has a population of about 33,000 persons, reke senting an annual growth rate of about 10 per cent since 1940, 4titi e 4"mPasses, from north to south, the cities of Atlantic Beach, 11QAtua , - 44ench, Jacksonville Beach, and Ponte Vedra (hereafter somet41 es r billlati efarred to collectively as "tfeBeaches"). There is one other 1144 e n the area, Ocean State Bank (deposits $4.4 million), which st4 Beach, 1-1/3 miles to the north ut 41114.blished in 1962 in Neptune Th e are deposits -41divirla from which Applicant estimates virtually all of Bank's derived. are deposits") --4als, partnerships, and corporations ("IPC 1 -5- a large At the northern end of the primary service area is nayEa V harbor, Mayport Naval Station. Atlantic, Neptune, and Ponte edra Beaches are, for the most part, residential beach areas, while tourist sacks onville Beach is primarily a small business, motel, and The cities are linked together along the coast with no rural area. areaS separating their respective corporate limits. It is Applicant's 4lief that the area will continue to grow residentially as the sacks onville area and as more suburbs expand away from the downtown all4 faster highways are constructed connecting the city and outlying c°rIllamnities. residing in According to Applicant, many people now Atlantic and Neptune Beaches are employed in the City of Jacksonville. generally Applicant, while conceding that Bank is now aervi g the convenience, needs, and welfare of its service area, asserts that ) under Applicant's ownership, Bank will be able to provide two additional important services. As a result of affiliation with that llarnett First National Bank of Jacksonville, Applicant asserts k /411 provide trust services and, with access to National's e3tiltl.Q1ce and knowledge respecting securities investments, Bank will be able to for its Provide improved and expanded investment services e4omers. nt As to the proposed provision for trust services, Applica 4tates no intention either to have Bank seek fiduciary powers or, sunl. -" are sought and granted, to install in Bank a trust department. 01, *$ -6- available Ilathet) Applicant intends that Bank utilize the trust services atAPPlicant's large Jacksonville Bank. Save for a closer and more ttimate affiliation, relationship that would be provided by such an tani Presently has available to it the services of the trust departments the three largest banks in Jacksonville, including Barnett First Natio tial Bank, on a correspondent bank relationship. to With respect to Applicant's proposal to give Bank access atuett First National's securities investment assistance, it is not PrOno r sed that Applicant will install an investment department at Bank, tiot 4 3-s there evidence of a need for such installation. Further, the toar i S of the view that whatever may be the need of Bank's customers tor vestment advice or portfolio management, such need can be reasonably k M a, ' 4equately met by Bank through recourse to available commercial source s) or through the large Jacksonville banks, only 18 miles distant, three °f which have deposits in excess of $100 million. In the circumsta Presented, the slightly greater assurance of assistance offered 1)Yth the Proposed affiliation does not weigh significantly in favor of 41)pro. val of Applicant's proposal. Other services which would be rendered by Applicant to Bank, sUbsidiary, management, include assistance on providing successor toder4 accounting and check processing, automation, and periodic audit Vice ttlitht tom s. Although such services would be of some benefit to Bank and holding l'esult in more efficient internal operations, Applicant's these services. sYstem is not the only convenient source for -7Advi ce and assistance in such internal matters are generally available throuri, : 4 " from banks, and appropriate supervisory authorities, correspondent not as qualified professional organizations, though perhaps fl°1:11ically from the latter two sources as they would be through a Parent holding company. respecting For the foregoing reasons, while considerations the t °nvenience, needs, and welfare of the communities and area conBoard appear consistent with approval of the application, the ed finds that such considerations offer only limited support therefor. public interest, Effect on adequate and sound banking, the . and b record "king com etition. - On the basis of the evidence of shcwi Bank g (1) the areas within which Applicant's subsidiaries and t1Qt4 rate, (2) the geographic and business characteristics of those areas, and (3) the banking alternatives reasonably available to the tesidents of Bank's service area, the Board concludes that the 4ekacinville Metropolitan Area is an appropriate market within which to the adequacy evaluate the probable effect of Applicant's proposal on 44(1 8°undness of banking, the public interest, and the preservation °thanking competition. Consideration is also to be given to certain t°11ateral, but relevant, aspects of the proposal having State-wide 4ect. (4) groups and There are five registered bank holding company °the„ operating in banking group (the "Florida National Group") 1°rida. the banks and The six groups control about 13 per cent of -823 per cent of all bank deposits in the State. Applicant's subsidiary banks constitute 1.2 per cent of the State's banks, and they control about 3.4 per cent of the deposits of all banks in the State. 14e°sured on a State-wide basis, the addition of Bank to Applicant's holding company system would not appear to expand the extent of control of banking resources either by Applicant or by all Florida banking groups combined to a degree inconsistent or incompatible Vith the preservation of banking competition. Turning to the Jacksonville Metropolitan Area, it is noted that this area is coextensive with Duval County. Of bni, a --s operating in the County: There are three groups the Atlantic Group, with five banks; lorida National Group, with six banks; and the Barnett Group with the three banks, one of which is its largest subsidiary. three banks held, at June 30, 1965, 22 and 23 per cent, respectively, Let Of Applicant's otal deposits and loans held by all banks in the County. The 114hanks controlled by the three groups hold, combined, 81 per cent Of the IPC per deposits, 82 per cent of the total deposits, and 79 cent of the batiks loans held by the 24 banks in the County. Otherwise stated, that are not associated with the three groups represent about 40 Per cent of all banks in the County, but hold less than 20 per cent (If th e dePosits of all banks. If Applicant's acquisition of Bank were ns "TtImated, Applicant's position in the segment of Duval County e°111Pr degree of ising Bank's primary service area would approach the dorm. Acquisition nance occupied by the three groups' banks in Duval County. 1 '7 -9- Bank would give Applicant control of deposits and loans equal to twohirds of the total deposits and loans now held by the two banks in that . area Consummation of the proposed acquisition would reduce by °fle the number of non-group banks in the County. In view of the dominant Position now held by group banks in Duval County, any further increase ill this position through acquisition by one of the groups of an existing indePendent bank should be permitted only if favorable considerations clearly Board outweigh the patently adverse competitive consequences. The is unable to find such overriding favorable considerations in this Case. There are, in the Board's opinion, discernible differences betvie en the present proposal and prior acquisitions by bank holding 5/ °11113anies in the Jacksonville area which have received Board approval.-4ch of the earlier cases involved the establishment and acquisition 01 4 new bank. Board approvals in those cases did not permit, as aPproval of this application, an immediate increase in the °Ileen tration of banking deposits under holding company control, QIIIIiination of an independent bank, and a decrease in the number of Ellttllative banking sources. Further, in each of the earlier cases the establishment of a new banking outlet was found to be of potentially Nhificant benefit to the convenience, needs, and welfare of the 4ks°11ville area. 5./ . Atle,, the Matter of The Atlantic National Bank of Jacksonville and olhcTrus t Company, 1959 F. R. Bulletin 1353 (Nov.), In the Matter ae A tlantic National Bank of Jacksonville and Atlantic Trust ty, 1961 F. R. Bulletin 917 (Aug.), and In the Matter of Barnett vi44-,,-, -"1 Securities Corporation, 1964 F. R. Bulletin 1138 (Sept.). N -10- As earlier stated, Jacksonville Beach is in the Jacksonville Metro Politan Area, only 18 miles from Jacksonville. A substantial Illirriber of the Jacksonville Beach residents are employed in Jacksonville, thus resulting in daily travel between the two areas. The relatively short distance, and the fact that two highways connecting the areas 129cc lde the residents of Jacksonville Beach with direct and rapid access to j ac sonville, warrant the conclusion that Jacksonville constitutes a eon— • vrixent situs for the business and shopping requirements of the Jacks -onville Beach residents. It follows, in the Board's judgment, that the Jacksonville banks constitute reasonable alternative sources of 4114,, -g services for these residents. While the record reflects that a rel. . National Bank's total deposits atIvelY small portion of Barnett First cri of loans obtained •n 'glnates I the Jacksonville Beach area, the volume by t_ arnett First National Bank from Bank's primary service area is not 4184 from Bank's service 'g uficant. .r Barnett First National Bank derives area commercial and industrial loans and consumer loans equal in dollar vutum respectively, of the total e to approximately 40 per cent, c].al and industrial and consumer loans held by Bank. cance c) that light of the fact these data becomes more pronounced in the total loan "asumer loans comprise nearly 80 per cent of Bank's 10, St The signifi- would eliminate the Consummation of Applicant's proposal for loans arising in Bank's A4icant competition that is evidenced IIIIITI4tY service area. -11- Further, residents of Jacksonville Beach, particularly the Segnent of the working population employed in Jacksonville, would be deprived of a reasonably accessible alternative source of banking service. The importance of this consideration is to be appraised in the light of the potential development of the area between Jacksonville and Jacksonville Beach. It may be reasonably assumed that Jacksonville /3each will increasingly develop as a suburb of Jacksonville. As this and Occurs, the potential for increased competition between Bank jneksonville banks, including Applicant's Jacksonville subsidiaries, 1411 increase. The benefits of such increased competition to the banking Public would be foreclosed by approval of this application. 14hile the Board cannot predict with certitude the precise nature and banks of the two areas, "lume of competition that will develop between the the evidence of record satisfies the Board that approval of Applicant's volume of future Pt°P°sel would foreclose a sufficiently meaningful CO Petition as to be inconsistent with the preservation of competitioft in the field of banking and contrary to the public interest. On the basis of all the relevant facts as contained in the l'e"rd before the Board, and in the light of the factors set forth in section 3(c) of the Act, it is the Board's judgment that the prokcied transaction would not be consistent with the public interest and that t,e napplication should therefore be denied. becember 27, 1965. At 'A e Item No. 3 12/27/65 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551 ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD December 28, 1965. 14r. Fred M. Vinson, . As sistant Attorney General, Criminal Division, Department of Justice, Washington, D. C. 20530 Dear Mk. Vinson: h of December 14, 1965, in whic This refers to your letter Governors may have conIlu ask for all information the Board of City Bank, New York, onal t Nati ,yer ning the proposal of the Firs , "commingled investment account" York ("First"), to operate a ort submitted by the bank in supp including copies of all materials enclosed herewith, together with Of its proposal. Such copies are its proposal and Copies of Board correspondence to First regarding a Patman of the House Banking legal memorandum supplied to Chairman discussing the legal and Currency Committee pursuant to his request, under section 32 of the Banking rneiderations relating to the proposal "let of 1933. copies of certain documents The Board has been supplied Commission in the proceeding filed with the Securities and Exchange 1940 now pending before that der the Investment Company Act of ver, that proposal. It is assumed, howe y mBliasion, involving First's cial offi the in rence to materials r°ur letter does not have refe eniently conv more can your Department !"rd of that proceeding which 01 . lete comp e file would be tai from the Commission, whos articles that have appeared in Except for some of the Aew equally available to your Department, spapers and other periodicals, e-described erld not, of course, of any real probative value, the abov matter. this rmation of the Board in terials comprise all the info asked the Board last March for its As you are aware, First Act of whether section 32 of the Banking 1,,ws on the single question the bank een betw ice interlocking serv 193 (12 U.S.C. 78) would forbid t r I t. Fred M. Vinson -2- Following rather d, on the basis of lude conc Prolonged study of the matter, the Board the commingled that it, to the information which had been submitted ent company" estm "inv an account, although required to register as the Investment of ns isio under the quite different and distinct prov section 32 of oses purp Company Act of 1940, should be regarded for nal banking itio trad on n atio a.s nothing more than a somewhat novel vari t trus department the of part runctions, to be conducted essentially as er dated a lett in t, Firs rmed cf the bank. Accordingly, the Board info y to appl not d woul 32 ion sect JIllY 22, 1965, that the prohibition of ‘ . osal prop that 'he proposal, as the Board understood 'and its proposed commingled investment account. whether the prohibition In order to resolve the question between First and service section 32 would apply to interlocking the Board's initial unt, acco 1 :t8 proposed commingled investment rests in the account !?nsideration was whether participations of inte es" within the meaning nould be regarded as "other similar securiti long-established position Of that section. In view especially of its oses resemble !lat shares in ordinary mutual funds (which for many purp r considering afte and securities, 11e proposed participations) are such . ', luded that d conc Boar n before it, the Special aspects of the situatio r that unde section. red rities cove '"o participations would constitute secu of to the Board the pertinence of an This conclusion indicated t inan4 or not the proposed action of Firs 1-.LrY into the question whether 1933 of Act ing Bank ;Ight constitute a violation of section 21 of the the Board suggested in its letter 2 U.S.C. section 378). Accordingly, consult your Department Of July 22, 1965, that First might wish to and was informed subsequently that before proceeding with the matter, August 10, 1965, a copy of which the bank had done so, in a letter of 48 included among the enclosed materials. long-established policy of not The Board has, however, a arising under section 21, a criminal Pressing an opinion on questions d in an interpretation publishe al ute. This policy was explained stiat Banking Act of 1933, as follows: °rtlY after enactment of the to the Federal Reserve Board "The section does not give matters with discretion regarding the any jurisdiction or section provides the , hand other Which it deals. . . . On the ment for any violation of its a penalty of fine or imprison n of the question whether a Provisions and the determinatio n is a matter for such violatio Person should be prosecuted tion of the Department of Justice. entirely within the jurisdic umstances, an expression of "In view of these circ her rve Board on the question whet opinion by the Federal Rese from afford protection the section is violated would not ice upon consideration Just of rtment prosecution if the Depa position that a corporation had of the matter should take the ecute should feel it necessary to pros violated the statute and 41) etin Bull ral Reserve for such violation." (1934 Fede .46 Mr. Fred M. Vinson -3- ession by the in of the ss criminal activity could have serious implications, regardle legal correctness of the opinion. that any expr qually important, of course, is the fact 5Boar itution was engaging inst an d of an opinion that a person or rked that in another In addition, it might be rema umstances interpretation, also published in 1934 when the circ the minds surrounding enactment of the statute were still fresh in view that "certificates of commentators, the Board pointed out that its issued in series, and other °f participation based on mortgages, notes s which are not ordinary mortgage similar obligations secured by mortgage s, be regarded as "securities" notes" might, depending on the circumstance Or purposes of section 32. d as an expression of . . . should not be construe ons mortgage notes and other obligati Opinion by the Board that ed ider cons be [or should not] secured by mortgages should other securities' within the or s, 'bonds, debentures, note the Banking Act of 1933. Said meaning of section 21(a) of of fine or imprisonment for section 21 provides a penalty and the interpretation of the violation of its provisions, the is a matter entirely within provisions of that section nt of Justice." Jurisdiction of the Departme 302) (1934 Federal Reserve Bulletin eves that the question whether a The Board, therefore, beli bant. in function, may be "engaging in the .-, performing the proposed d for the purposes of section 21, woul rsiness" of issuing securities and ts, that cour the and Department !!e within the jurisdiction of your Board to take a position on the the for It would not be appropriate matter. ce enclosed materials will be of assistan It is hoped that the d the that Boar feel you if or to, further questions, n Jou. If you have any do not se plea way, any staff in ts staff can assist you or your hesitatea to so advise us. Very truly yours, (Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon Kenneth A. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary. Enclosures