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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

December 26, 1963

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
, it will be appreciated if you will advise
minutes
the
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitcholl
Gov. Daane

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Minutes of a meeting of the available members of the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on Thursday, December 26,
1963.

The meeting was held in the Board Roam at 2:00 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Robertson, Acting Chairman
Mr. Mitchell
Mr. Daane
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Solomon, Director, Division of
Examinations
Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Hooff, Assistant General Counsel

This meeting was held for the purpose of considering the
issuance of a statement regarding an interpretation by the Comptroller
of the Currency under date of December 19, 1963, to the effect that
a national bank could accept savings accounts without regard to
whether the funds deposited were to the credit of one or more
individuals or of a corporation, association, or other organization,
whether operated for profit or otherwise.

The interpretation was

published in the Federal Register on December 24, 1963, and advice
from the Comptroller's Office concerning it was received at the
Board this morning.

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After discussion, unanimous approval was given to the
issuance of a press statement in the form attached as Item No. 1,
with the understanding that copies would be sent by wire to the
Federal Reserve Banks for their information and that other appropriate distribution would be made.

This action was taken subject

to ratification at the next meeting of the Board at which a quorum
was present.
Reference also was made to certain other rulings that had
been issued recently by the Comptroller, relating to loans to
executive officers, capital debentures, and appraisals, and it was
understood that such consideration as might seem necessary and
appropriate would be given to those rulings at a subsequent Board
meeting.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Notes: Pursuant to recommendations
contained in memoranda dated December 18, 1963,
from the Division of Research and Statistics,
Governor Robertson, acting in the absence of
Governor Shepardson, today approved on behalf
of the Board the reappointment of the following
persons as Consultants in that Division on a
temporary contractual basis, effective as of
January 1, 1964, and until December 31, 1964,
with compensation for each at the rate indicated
below for each day worked for the Board either
in Washington or outside the city, and with the
understanding that, in accordance with the Board's
travel regulations, each would receive a per diem
in lieu of subsistence in the amount of $16 when
in travel status in connection with official
assignments, and transportation:

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12/26/63

-3Susan S. Burr
Almarin Phillips
Gertrude Weiss

$50 per day
$75 per day
$65 per day

Governor Robertson noted today on behalf of
the Board a memorandum from the Office of the
Secretary advising that Lillie B. Brow,
Assistant Supervisor, Subject Files, Records
Section, had filed application for retirement,
effective at the close of business December 30,
1963.
Pursuant to the procedure approved by the Board
on October 12, 1960, relating to examinations
of Edge Act and agreement corporations by
examiners for the Federal Reserve Banks of New
York and Philadelphia, acting as examiners for
the Board of Governors, a letter was sent today
to the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland authorizing a similar arrangement in that District for
examination of Mellon International Finance
Corporation, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
The requirements contemplated by the Board's
action on December 4, 1963, in approving the
issuance of a preliminary permit to the International Bank of Detroit, Detroit, Michigan,
having been completed, a letter was sent to
that corporation on December 26, 1963, transmitting a final permit to commence business.

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Item No. 1
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Pot immediate release

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December 26, 1963.

an interThe Board of Governors has received inquiries regarding
Currency under date of December 19,
Pretation issued by the Comptroller of the
. . accept savings accounts
1963, to the effect that "a national bank may.
are to the credit of one or
Without regard to whether the funds deposited
more individuals or of a corporation, association, or other organization,
Whether operated for profit or otherwise."
System, national banks are subject
As members of the Federal Reserve
to the provisions of section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act which prohibit
member banks from paying interest, directly or indirectly, on any demand
deposit and which require the Board of Governors to limit the rate of interest that may be paid by such banks on time and savings deposits.

To this

"demand deposits" and "savings
end, it is necessary to define the terms
to define
deposits"; and the law expressly authorizes the Board of Governors
of the
auch terms and to prescribe regulations to effectuate the purposes
statute and prevent evasions.
"savings deposit" in a manner
The Board's Regulation Q defines a
that permits such deposits to be made only by individuals or by corporations,
associations, and other organizations which are not operated for profit but
for religious, philanthropic, charitable, educational, fraternal, or similar
Purpose _. This definition has been in effect since 1936.
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not
n
Accordingly, a deposit by a corporatio operated for profit may
be classified by any member bank, including a national bank, as a savings

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-2Unless such a deposit comes within the definition of a "time

dePosit.

deposit" it would constitute a demand deposit under Regulation Q and payment
°f interest on such deposit by a national bank would violate the prohibition
of the law against payment of interest on demand deposits.
provisions of the Federal
Failure of a national bank to comply with
Reserve Act constitutes grounds for instituting legal proceedings to close
the bank.

director of a national batik particThe law also provides that any

iPating in or assenting to a violation shall be personally liable fpr any damage:
that may be sustained by the bank, its shareholders, or any other persons - n
f:°°sequence of the violation.
Regulation D, relating to reserves
In addition, Federal Reserve
equired to be maintained by member banks in the Federal Reserve System,
contains a definition of savings deposits identical to that of Regulation Q.
11° deposit of a business corporation in a member bank may be classified as
4 savings deposit for reserve purposes and, unless it falls within the
definition of a time deposit, a national bank must maintain against such
d ePosit the reserves applicable to demand deposits (16-1/2 per cent for
resets e
v city banks and 12 per cent for other member banks), rather than

4

th0
(4 per cent for all member
8e applicable to time and savings deposits
banks).

Classification of such a deposit as a savings deposit would violate

4gulati0n D and subject the member bank to a penalty for any resulting
serve deficiency.