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A meeting

of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

SYstem was held in Washington on Wednesday, December 21, 1938, at 10:30
a. in.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szynczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
kihi. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr.. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Snead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Before the meeting there had been furnished to each member of

the Board a memorandum prepared in the Division of Bank Operations
advices received from all Federal reserve banks except
4/st0n and Dallas of action proposed to be taken by the respective
boards of directors at the first meetings in January 1939 with respect
to changes in salaries of officers of the banks.

Chairman Eccles ex-

1311essed the opinion that, in view of the difficulty which the Board
has had each year in passing on salaries fixed by the boards of direca
t°8 of the various Federal reserve banks for officers of the banks,
ralleh more satisfactory procedure would be one similar to that followed
bY the Board under which Changes in salaries of officers of Federal
l'eaerve banks would be considered only in individual cases at times




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when the circumstances merited changes in existing salaries.

Chairman

Ecaes also suggested that it would be helpful to the Board if some
basis for classification of salaries of officers of the Federal reserve
banks could be worked out for the Board's guidance in passing upon
then.
These suggestions were discussed and
it was voted unanimously that the Secretary
should prepare a letter to the Chairman of
each Federal reserve bank stating that at
its meeting today the Board deferred consideration of the proposed changes in
salaries of officers of Federal reserve
banks for the year 1939, with the understanding that during the year the President
of each Federal reserve bank will be requested to came to Washington for a review
of the entire question of salaries at the
bank, the letter to refer to the adoption
by the Board of the practice of considering a change in the salary of a member
of its staff only at a time when conditions justify the proposed change, pointing
out that the procedure has worked very
satisfactorily, and stating that in the
future the Board will follow a similar
policy in considering changes in salaries
of officers of Federal reserve banks.
Mr. Szymczak and Mr. Snead were requested to explore the possibility of
determining upon a plan of classification
of the salaries of officers of the Federal
reserve banks which might be used by the
Board as a guide in passing upon salaries
proposed by the boards of directors of
the respective banks and to submit a recommendation with respect thereto.
The list of salary changes received from the Federal Reserve
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of Atlanta indicated that the directors proposed to appoint H. C.




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Frazer, former manager of the Havana Agency of the bank, as assistant
taanager of the New Orleans branch with salary at the rate of 4;6,500
Per annum, effective January 1, 1939.
It was agreed that the Federal Reserve
Bank of Atlanta should be advised that the
Board would be willing to approve the salary
proposed for Mr. Frazer in the new position.
Consideration was given to memoranda prepared by Messrs. Wyatt
Etad Chase of the Legal Division under date of December 8, 1938, in conIlection with a letter received under date of November 23, 1938, from
Theodore Francis Green, Chairman of the board of the Morris Plan Company
Of Rhode Island, with respect to the applicability of the Clayton Act
to that company, the letter suggesting that (a) the Act is not applicable
011 the ground that the company is not a "bank", and (b) that if the
Act is applicable the Board's Regulation L should be emended so as to
elemPt the company and others whose Dowers are similarly limited.

Mr.

Chase's memorandum reviewed the rulings of the Board with respect to
the first point which showed (1) that the Board had held that the Morris
Plan Company of Rhode Island is a bank within the meaning of Section
4 and Section 22(g) of the Federal Reserve Act, (2) that a number of
Other companies very similar to this company are banks within the meanof the Clayton Act, and (3) that these rulings are consistent with
"her rulings of the Board and the decisions of the courts.

With re-

sPect to the second point the memoranda suggested that, since the Board




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had announced its intention of asking Congress to reconsider the
ClaYton Act, it might be thought to be inappropriate for the Board
to Darther amend Regulation L pending such reconsideration.

Mr.

Morrill said that Senator Green had delivered his letter personally
With the statement that if the Board were disposed to act favorably
4°11 his request he would not ask for a hearing but that if after rethe question it was disposed to act unfavorably he would deto be heard orally before final action is taken.
The Secretary was requested to
advise Mr. Green that the Board will be
pleased to discuss the matter with him
at a convenient time.
At the Presidents' Conference on October 24-25, 1938, it was
the consensus of the Presidents that the Federal reserve banks should
e'pra•PlY with the request of the Federal Housing Administration for
credit reports with respect to sponsors of building projects involving
'rtgeges to be insured by the Federal Housing Administration, but
nic
that charges should be made for such service in the amount of the actlIal expenses involved in furnishing the reports, the minimum charge
' ellY report to be $1.00.
r°1

Under date of November 25, 1938, the

Acinlinistrator of the Federal Housing Administration addressed a letter to the Board outlining the reason for the Administration's requests
clr the Federal reserve banks and the manner in which the information
All'nished by the banks would supplement the information obtained from




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"her sources by the Administration.

The file had been circulated

among the members of the Board and the question had been raised whether
it would not be a more satisfactory policy for the Federal reserve
baake to disregard inconsequential out-of-pocket expenses incurred in
response to the requests of the Federal Housing Administration rather
than to
adopt the policy of making a minimum charge of $1.00.
Upon motion by Mr. Davis, far. Smead
was requested to prepare a letter to all
Federal reserve banks transmitting a copy
of the letter from the Federal Housing
Administrator referred to above and advising that the Board believes that the banks
should not follow the policy of making a
minimum charge of $1.00, that it would be
preferable for the banks to disregard inconsequential expenses incurred in complying
with the requests from the Federal Housing
Administration, but that, when there is
substantial expense the banks should seek
reimbursement on the basis of actual outof-pocket expenses.
There were then presented further recommendations of the Per4/411s1 Committee with respect to the designation of a Chairman and
l'ederal Reserve Agent at a Federal reserve bank, the appointment of
1)ePlItY Chairmen at Federal reserve banks, and the appointment of direct°re at branches of Federal reserve banks and the following unanimous
4etions were taken:
II I'ancis Biddle was appointed Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve
"It of Philadelphia for the year 1939.
S. Harris was appointed a director of the Charlotte branch of the
xederel Reserve Bank of Richmond for a term of three years beginning
ellUery 1, 1939.




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Er Porter was appointed Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve
'elik of Atlanta for the year 1939.
sear Johnston was appointed Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve
244ank
of St. Louis for the year 1939.
1 13,Ject to confirmation of his willingness to accept, Alex Cunningham,
,
„les President and Treasurer, Western Life Insurance Company, Helena,
iontana, was appointed a director of the Helena branch of the Federal
i seerve Benk of Minneapolis for a term of two years beginning January
1939,

7

B. Caldwell, Class C director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas
11tY whose term expires on December 31, 1940, was designated as Chair'
Slid Federal Reserve Agent for the year 1939 and his compensation
!e Chainnan and Federal Reserve Agent was fixed on the uniform basis
EcIr the same position at all Federal reserve banks, i.e., at the same
ealount as the aggregate of the fees payable during the same period to
1111Y other director for attendance corresponding to his at meetings of
board of directors, executive committee and other committees of
he board of directors. It was understood that advice of Mr. Caldwell's
uesignation would be withheld pending further consideration of the ap1)°111tment of a Class C director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas
,
itY for the term of three years beginning January 1, 1939.
B. Grant was appointed a director of the Denver branch of the Federal
leserve Bank of Kansas City for a term of three years beginning January
'
1) 1939,
3-eY Taylor was appointed Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Ipellee for the year 1939.
4. Penfert was appointed a director of the Houston branch of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Dallas for a term of three years beginning January 1,
1939.
At this point Mr. Cagle, Assistant Chief of the Division of Exftanations, joined the meeting.
Mr. McKee stated that in response to the Board's wire of December
61 1938, to President Day of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
l'equesting full information and the opinion of President Day and counsel




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for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco with respect to camPliance of Transamerica Corporation with the provisions of law relating to divorcement of securities companies, the Board had received a
letter from First Vice President Clerk which did not give the desired
information and did not indicate that President Day or counsel for the
baak had considered the matter.
Upon motion by Mr. McKee, the following telegram to Mr. Day was approved
unanimously:
"Board considers that Clerk's letter December 17 regarding divorcement of securities companies by Transamerica
Corporation is not an adequate response to Board's wire
of December 6. Board requests that you personally, together with bank's counsel, review Board's wire of December
6, have such investigation made and obtain such information as you and your counsel consider necessary in order
to reach a conclusion as to whether or not Transamerica
Corporation has complied with the requirements of the law
relating to divestment of ownership, control, interest in
or participation in management or direction of securities
companies, and advise Board fully as to your opinion and
that of your counsel together with all facts developed,
In accordance with the request contained in that wire."
At this point Messrs. Wyatt, &lead, Dreibelbis and Cagle left
the meeting.
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinotter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
unaniIederal Reserve System held on December 20, 1938, were approved
Z1011

.
y

Chief of
Memorandum dated December 19, 1938, from Mr. Parry,




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Division of Security Loans, recommending that, for the reason

stated in the memorandum, Mrs. Florence C. O'Hare, Secretary to Mr.
ParrY, be granted (in addition to the balance of her accumulated and
accrued annual leave through December 31, 1938, and her accrued sick
leave through December 31, 1938) advance sick leave in the amount of
thirty days from January 13, 1939 through February 11, 1939; advance
Ellnual leave of fifteen days and five hours from February 13, 1939
through March 4, 1939; and leave without pay for twenty-five days from
March 6, 1939 through March 31, 1939.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the board of directors of the "Gary Trust and Savings
8atk", Gary, Indiana, stating that, subject to conditions of member8114 numbered 1 to 4 and 6 contained in the Board's Regulation H and
the following additional conditions, the Board approves the bank's
4PPlication for membership in the Federal Reserve System and for the
appropriate amount of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago:
"5.

Such bank, except as permitted in the case of national banks exercising fiduciary powers, shall not
invest collectively funds held by the bank as fiduciary and shall keep the securities and investments
of each trust separate from those of all other
trusts and separate also from the properties of
the bank itself.

"7.

Such bank shall make adequate provision for depreciation in its banking house and furniture and
fixtures.

"8. Prior to admission to membership, such bank, if it
has not already done so, shall charge off or otherwise eliminate estimated losses of 414,689.01, as




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"shown in the report of examination of such bank as
of November 21, 1938, made by an examiner for the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago."
The letter also contained the following special comments:
"The report of examination for membership contains
numerous criticisms of the operations and supervision
of the trust department which the examiner reports were
fully discussed with the president and cashier of the
bank. Acceptance of trust business entails serious responsibilities, and if the Gary Trust and Savings Bank
becomes a member bank, it will be expected to take the
necessary steps to give the trust department proper attention and bring the trust activities into conformity
With approved practices.
"It is understood that the bank operates an insurance department and engages to a minor degree in real
estate management by acting as rental agent and manager
of real estate for clients. It is assumed, however, that
uthese activities are largely incidental to the instit
perbe
tion's banking and trust business and will not
its
mitted to assume undue importance in relation to
other activities."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Yd.. Schaller, President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
e System
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserv
s
Saving
and
approves the application of the 'Gary Trust
e
l
Reserv
Federa
the
Bank', Gary, Indiana, for membership in
inthe
in
bed
prescri
System, subject to the conditions
d to the
closed letter which you are requested to forwar
of such
copies
Two
ution.
board of directors of the instit
files
your
for
is
which
letter are also inclosed, one of
forward to
and the other of which you are requested to
utions for
Instit
ial
Financ
of
the Director, Department
ation.
inform
his
for
the State of Indiana
State of
"It is understood that the laws of the




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"Indiana prohibit the bank from pledging its assets as
securities for trust funds deposited in its banking department and that trust funds so deposited are preferred
Claims in event of liquidation of the bank. Standard condition of membership numbered 6, however, has been prescribed in order that its provision may be invoked at any
time in the future if necessary. You are, of course,
authorized to waive compliance with the condition until
further notice in accordance with the general authorization previously granted by the Board with which you are
familiar.
"It has been noted that, although on pages 18 and
B-1 of the report of examination Mr. O'Donnell, one of
the directors, is reported to be a dealer in local securities, on page 17 of the report with respect to
relations under section 32 of the Banking Act of 1933,
it is stated that no director of the bank is primarily
engaged in the issue, flotation, underwriting, public
sale, or distribution of stocks, bonds, or other similar
securities. It is assumed that you have satisfied yourself that, if the bank is admitted to membership, Mr.
O'Donnell's services as a director will not be in conflict with the provisions of section 32.
"It has been noted also that the bank operates an
insurance deparLaent and a rental department and that
all of the assets and liabilities of such departments
were not properly reflected on the bank's books. You
are familiar with the Board's position in this respect
and it is expected that you will see that the assets and
in
liabilities of such departments are properly shown
nts.
stateme
ed
future reports of condition and publish
sub"It has been observed farther that the papers
a
include
mitted with the bank's application did not
copy of a certificate from the State authorities authorcertificate was
izing it to commence business. If such a
the bank in
of
ation
required at the time of the organiz
a copy
forward
will
1907, it will be appreciated if you
to complete the Board's records."
Trust Company,
Letter to Mr. C. L. Cobb, President, The Peoples
lk)ck Hill, South Carolina, reading as follows:
nation
"This refers to your request for a determi




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"by the Board with respect to your company which will
result in such company not being a holding company affiliate for any Purposes other than those of section
23A of the Federal Reserve Act.
"The Board understands that The Peoples National
Bank of Rock Hill has 2000 shares of stock outstanding;
that of such shares your company owns or controls 657-1/2
shares directly and 160-1/2 shares indirectly; that at
the last election of directors of the bank 1042 shares
were voted and shares owned or controlled by your company
constituted a majority of those voted; that your company
is engaged primarily in the insurance and real estate
business; that your company owns 105 shares of its own
stock and 2 shares of the stock of livhite Trust Company;
and that your company does not own or control any stock
of, or manage or control, any other bank, banking association, savings bank, or trust company.
"In view of these facts, the Board has determined
that your company is not engaged, directly or indirectly,
as a business in holding the stock of, or managing or
controlling, banks, banking associations, savings banks,
or trust companies, within the meaning of section 2(c)
of the Banking Act of 1933, as emended, and, accordingly,
Your company is not a holding company affiliate for any
Purposes other than those of section 23A of the Federal
Reserve Act.
"However, the Board reserves the right to make a further determination of this matter at any time on the basis
of the then existing facts and if the facts should at any
time differ from those stated above to en extent which
would indicate that your company might be deemed to be
engaged, directly or inairectly, as a business in holding
the stock of, or managing or controlling banks, banking
associations, savings banks, or trust companies, this
matter again should be submitted to the Board."
Approved unanimously for transmission through the Federal Reserve Bank of
Richmond.
Savings
Letter to Mr. W. 0. Steel, President, Iowa Trust and
/116nk, Centerville, Iowa, reading as follows:
recently
"The office of the Comptroller of the Currency




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"requested a ruling by the Board with respect to the question whether your bank is a holding company affiliate of
The First National Bank of Centerville, Centerville, Iowa,
and The First National Bsnk of Eldon, Eldon, Iowa. In this
connection, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago was requested
to obtain certain further information and has forwarded
to us copies of your letter dated November 7, 1938, and that
of Valentine and Valentine, your bank's attorneys, dated
November 19, 1938.
"It is understood that your bank, as executor of the
estate of X. A. Bradley, holds and has held for some years
420 of the 500 outstanding shares of stock of The First
National Bank of Centerville, 121 of the 250 outstanding
shares of stock of The First National Bank of Eldon, and
450 of the 500 outstanding shares of its own stock; that
the shares of stock of The First National Bank of Eldon
so held by your bank were voted at the last election of
directors of the bank and constituted more than 50 per
cent of the shares voted at such election; that your bank
does not own or control any shares of stock of any bank
in its individual capacity and does not manage or control
any bank other than those mentioned above.
"Acting as executor, your bank holds the shares of
stock of the banks in question without incentive or opportunity for private profit. However, while it appears
that the bank is accountable to a court for action taken
by it as executor and may upon occasion seek the court's
Prior approval of contemplated action, it does not appear
from the available information that the general supervision which the court may exercise is inconsistent with
the exercise by the bank of control over the shares of
stock and the determination of the manner in which such
shares are voted.
"Upon the basis of the foregoing, the Board is of
the opinion that your bank is a holding company affiliate
of The First National Bank of Centerville and The First
National Bank of Eldon within the meaning of the following portion of the definition contained in section 2(c)
of the Banking Act of 1933, as amended:
'(c) The term "holding company affiliate"
shall include any corporation, business trust,
association, or other similar organization '(1) Which owns or controls, directly or
indirectly, either a majority of the shares of




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"'capital stock of a member bank or more than 50
per centum of the number of shares voted for the
election of directors of any one bank at the preceding election, or controls in any manner the
election of a majority of the directors of any
one bank;'
"However, the last paragraph of such section reads
in part as follows:
'Notwithstanding the foregoing, the term
"holding company affiliate" shall not include
(except for the purposes of section 23A of the
Federal Reserve Act, as amended) * * * any organization which is determined by the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System not to
be engaged, directly or indirectly, as a business
in holding the stock of, or managing or controlling, banks, banking associations, savings banks,
or trust companies.'
"In view of the facts recited above, the Board has dectly
termined that your bank is not engaged, directly or indire
conor
ng
as a business in holding the stock of, or managi
or
trolling, banks, banking associations, savings banks,
proviory
statut
trust companies, within the meaning of the
sions last quoted and, accordingly, your bank is not a
holding company affiliate for any purposes other than those
of section 23A of the Federal Reserve Act.
"The Board reserves the right to make a further determination of this matter at any time on the basis of the
then existing facts and if the facts should at any time
differ from those set out above to an extent which would
inindicate that your bank might be engaged, directly or
ng
managi
or
of,
directly, as a business in holding the stock
banks,
s
saving
,
ations
or controlling, banks, banking associ
or trust companies, the matter should again be submitted to
the Board."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Young, Vice President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
1938, and
"This refers to our letter of November 4,
g comholdin
yours of November 22, 1938, relating to the
Bank,
s
pany affiliate status of Iowa Trust and Saving
Centerville, Iowa.




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"There is inclosed herewith our letter of this date
addressed to Mr. W. 0. Steel, president of such bank, advising him concerning this metter. Unless you have further
information which you believe Should be brought to the
Board's attention before doing so, it will be appreciated
if you will forward such letter to Mr. Steel and advise us
accordingly. A copy of the letter is inclosed for your
files.
"It is assumed that you have advised Valentine and
Valentine, the bank's attorneys, concerning the question
respecting the applicability of the Clayton Act which was
mentioned in their letter of November 19, 1938 to you."




Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Chairmen.