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Minutes for December 20, 1961

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
With respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
You were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
Wednesday, December 20, 1961.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
King
Mitchell
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board and Director,
Division of International Finance
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Controller
Connell,
Mr.
General Counsel
Assistant
Chase,
Mr.
Mr. Hooff, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Sammons, Adviser, Division of International
Finance
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Sprecher, Assistant Director, Division of
Personnel Administration
Mr. Bass, Assistant Controller
Mr. Landry, Assistant to the Secretary

Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Bank of Atlanta on December 18, 1961, of the rates on discounts
ei4.4 advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously, with the
llticierstanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that Bank.
Items distributed to the Board.

The following items, which had

bes4 distributed to the Board and copies of which are attached to these
"es under the respective item numbers indicated, were approved
11114111Mous1y:

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-2Item No.

Letter to The Chase Manhattan Bank, New York,
4e1/ York, authorizing the establishment of a
!
°ranch in Port-of-Spain, Trinidad, The West
Iadies,

1

Illelegram to the Federal Reserve Bank of New
°rk approving a gold loan to Colombia.

2

utter to the President of Liberty National
and Trust Company of Louisville, Louise, Kentucky, replying to his letter of
0ecember 81 1961, regarding payment of interest
all savings deposits. (With copies to the Presi-ents of all Federal Reserve Banks.)

3

Messrs. Young and Sammons then withdrew from the meeting.
Report on competitive factors (McKeesport-Pittsburgh, PennsylA draft of report to the Comptroller of the Currency on the
e°raPetitive factors involved in the proposed consolidation of Western
PerIllsYlvania National Bank, McKeesport, Pennsylvania, and West End Bank,
?1ttsburgh, Pennsylvania, had been distributed under date of December 15,
1961.
In discussion, Governor Robertson suggested a revision in the
ectlelusion of the report, following which the report was approved unani41°1184 for transmittal to the Comptroller.

The conclusion of the report,

aPProved, read as follows:
Our investigation discloses very little, if any,
competition between Western Pennsylvania National Bank and
West End Bank. While approval of the proposed consolidation
Might intensify competition for the remaining small bank in
the area, it does not appear that that bank would be adversely
affected thereby.

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Assessment on Federal Reserve Banks for first half of 1962.
Copies of a memorandum from Mr. Bass dated December 19, 1961, had been
distributed recommending that an assessment of .00248 of the total
I/aid-in capital and surplus of the Federal Reserve Banks as of December
31) 1961, be levied upon the Banks to help defray the expenses of the
13°41'd for the first half of 1962.

Based on estimated capital and surplus

Of $1,319,000,0041 the rate indicated would produce $3,271,124.
There being no objection, the proposed assessment was approved
144
anianously.
Messrs. Connell, Hooff, and Bass withdrew from the meeting at
this point.
Use of facilities at Atlanta Bank.

A letter dated December

61

1961) had been received from Counsel, Washington Bureau, National
4880ciation for the Advancement of Colored People, enclosing a copy of
all office memorandum sent to employees of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Atlanta by President Bryan under date of November 9, 1961) regarding the
118e or the facilities in the Bank's new building.

Copies had been

distributed of a draft of reply over Chairman Martin's signature that
110111d point out that under the provisions of section

4 of the Federal

Ileaerve Act each of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks "shall be conducted
Utider the supervision and control of a Board of Directors."

The letter

14341d also state that it was not known what consideration had been
by the directors of the Bank to the question of making available

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seParate rest room and shover facilities for members of the staff
according to race, that President Bryan's memorandum had not been seen
Pl'eviously by the Board, but that a copy of the incoming letter was
being sent to President Bryan for his information, and with the request
t414 the letter be brought to the attention of the directors of the
Bank.
After discussion, it was agreed that Chairman Martin would
cl18eues the matter with President Bryan to obtain additional information
431d that the proposed reply would then be considered further by the
Board.
Messrs. Johnson and Sprecher then withdrew from the meeting.
Question under section 8 of Clayton Act (Item No. 4). There
had been distributed under date of December 19, 1961, a memorandum from

ttle Legal Division regarding whether service by Mr. Alvin M. Parker as
director of both the Riggs National Bank, Washington, D. C., and the
444endria National Bank, Alexandria, Virginia, would be prohibited by

"ion 8 of the Clayton Act, On December 18, 1961, Mr. Robert V.
Ilelaing, Chairman of the Board of Riggs National Bank, and Representative
11°14Lrd Smith of Virginia, Chairman of the Board of Alexandria National
visited Chairman Martin,withVice Chairman Balderston and Mr.
44ek4.eY also present, to request that the Board reconsider the ruling
Contained in its letter of June 15, 1961, to the office

4

of the Comptroller

he Currency that Alexandria and Washington are "contiguous" within

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the meaning of section

8

of the Clayton Act and that, therefore, a

director of Riggs could not also serve as a director of Alexandria
National Bank.

Messrs. Fleming and Smith advised that Mr. Parker had

been serving as a director of both banks since 1958 and that he succeeded
*. Thomas A. Butt, who had been serving both banks since 1947.

It was

indicated that both Messrs. Parker and Butt had been elected as directors
°f Riggs National Bank pursuant to the desire of a large depositor.
Since Messrs. Parker and Butt had served for such a long period without
c)hjection, Mr. Fleming and Mr. Smith urged that Mr. Parker be allowed
to

the
continue to serve irrespective of the purely legal aspects of

Matter.
With reference to previous cases of this type that had come
berore the Board, the memorandum noted that in every instance but two
the Board had held that the statute prohibited the interlocking relationConcerned because the places were "contiguous".

In the more recent

Of the two exceptions, the Board on January 28, 1959, stated that it
141d "interpose no objection" to the continued service of Mr. Elwood
Kirkman as director of a bank in Ocean City, New Jersey, and a bank
haw __
4-“g a branch in Somers Point, New Jersey, even though the corporate
It's of these two places coincided under navigable waters separating
them.

The reason for the Board's position in that case was that Mr.

--Luan had been told earlier by a representative of the Federal Reserve
tWIL

Of Philadelphia that the Clayton Act would not prohibit his serving

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director of the two banks.

On the basis of this advice, the branch

In Somers Point was established. As to whether Alexandria, Virginia,
44i Washington, D. C., were "adjacent" within the meaning of the statute,
the Board had stated in its letter of June 15, 19610 referred to previously,

that the fact the two communities in question were "contiguous" rendered
1134)0t the question whether they were "adjacent", although the two places
Ir°1414 probably be considered "adjacent" as well.
It was the conclusion of the Legal Division, as expressed in its
41ellumrdtml, that in view of the fact that the boundaries of Alexandria
4104 Washington touched and coincided, the two places were "contiguous"
the meaning of the statute.

It was noted, however, that the

service of Mr. Parker and his predecessor had been allowed to continue
tcli 4 long time without objection.
In commenting on the matter, Mr. Hackley pointed out that not
14141 recently had the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency raised
qUeStiOn

regarding the service of Mt. Butts, and later of Mr. Parker.

4PeLrent1y a new national bank examiner had noted the interlocking
lieletionship at the most recent examination, and the Comptroller's
°trice then wrote to the Board.

The Board's reply of June 15, 1961, was

to the effect indicated in the Legal Division's memorandum. Since the
Co
4 vorate boundaries of Washington and Alexandria coincide for a certain
4letance, the two places would appear to be "contiguous" within the
41118 of section
'
ee

8

of the Clayton Act.

In such circumstances, it had

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been the Board's general position that regardless of other considerations,
sUch as whether the banks concerned actually were in competition, the
cE

vould not fall within any of the exceptions to the Clayton Act

844 service as a director of both banks therefore would be prohibited by
statute.

However, in one recent case (the Kirkman case) the Board had

telt that the equities of the matter were such as to warrant taking a
P°81tion that it would interpose no objection to the continued service
c'r the bank director involved.

Accordingly, the question was whether

tile circumstances of the Parker case might be such as to warrant taking
81Milar position.

There ensued a lengthy discussion during which reference was
mad
the

alnong other things, to the provisions of the law, the history of
Present case, and the arguments that might be cited for and against
rPosing no objection to the continued service of Mr. Parker as a

411"setor of both banks.
Governor Robertson took the position that the Board should reaffirm
the
ruling contained in its letter of June 15, 1961, to the Comptroller's
0
144". The fact of the matter, he brought out, was simply that the
44ti°11Eil bank examiners did not note the interlocking relationship until
l'entlY. When the situation was finally noted, the matter was presented
to
the Board, and the Board replied. It would, he thought, place the
°.81. in a bad light if it now changed the position that it had stated
14 Its letter.

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Governor Mitchell suggested advising the banks concerned that
'Parker's service as a director of one of the two institutions should
Mr
be terminated as soon as it was convenient and practicable to replace

him) without specifying any particular time within which that step must
be accomplished.
The other members of the Board indicated that, in view of the
circumstances of this particular case, including the continuity of
l'elationships over a period of approximately 15 years, they would favor
4civising that although Washington and Alexandria would appear to be
Q°11tigUous within the meaning of section

8

of the Clayton Act, the

would interpose no objection to Mr. Parker's continuing as a
cl*"tor of both banks, with the understanding, however, that no
alleceeding interlocking director would be elected when Mr. Parker's
l'171ce terminated.
Accordingly, it was agreed, with Governors Robertson and Mitchell
clisenting, to send to the Chairman of the Riggs National Bank a letter

14 the form attached as Item No. 4, with a copy to the Comptroller of
the Currency.
All of the members of the staff except Messrs. Sherman and
Njr.
y r then withdrew from the meeting.
Appointment of director.

The Board authorized the usual steps

to

be taken to ascertain through Chairman Mitchell of the Federal Reserve
p
°4- Atlanta whether Mr. Kenneth R. Giddens, President of WKRG-TV, Inc.,

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Mobile, Alabama, would accept appointment as a director of the New
011earls Branch of that Bank for the three-year term beginning January 1,
1962) with the understanding that if he would accept such appointment
it t
endered, the appointment would be made.
Secretary's Note: It having been ascertained
that Mr. Giddens would accept the appointment
if tendered, a telegram advising him of the
appointment was sent on December 26, 1961.
Loan of services of Mr. Wernick.
4

Governor Robertson presented

Memorandum from Mr. Noyes dated December 19, 19610 regarding a request
fl Dr. R. A. Gordon, Chairman of the President's Committee to

418e Employment and Unemployment Statistics, that Murray Wernick,
'
413131
8e4ior Economist in the Division of Research and Statistics, be made
Nilable to serve as Staff Director for the Committee during the period
*°14 January 1 through June 30, 1962, such duties to take approximately
bAllt

Of Mr. Wernick's time and the remainder to be spent on his usual

cli4ies as a member of the Board's staff.
After discussion, unanimous approval was given to Mr. Wernick's
411111g in the capacity indicated, with the understanding that the Board
kola,
Pay his full salary on a nonreimbursable basis during the period
is

service with the Committee and that other expenses such as travel

kcl

Per diem, related to the work of the Committee, would be paid from
N14
a of the Committee.
The meeting then adjourned.

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-10Secretary's Notes: The work contemplated by
the discussion at the Board meeting on
September 28, 1961, having been accomplished,
there was sent to Senator Douglas, Chairman
of the Subcommittee on Production and Stabilization of the Senate Banking and Currency
Committee, on December 19, 1961, a compilation
of State laws relating to the extension of
consumer credit. A copy of the letter transmitting this compilation is attached as
Item No. 5.
It having been ascertained, pursuant to Board
action on December 1, 1961, that Dr. Willis J.
Winn, Vice Provost of the University of
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
would accept appointment, if tendered, as a
Class C director of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Philadelphia for the three-year term
beginning January 1, 1962, a telegram advising
of the appointment was sent to Dr. Winn today.
Governor Shepardson noted on behalf of the
Board on December 19, 1961, a memorandum
advising that the application for retirement
filed by C. C. Hostrup, Assistant Director,
Division of Examinations, had been approved,
effective at the close of business December
31, 1961.
On December 19, 1961, Governor Shepardson
approved on behalf of the Board the following
items:

r

Memoranda from appropriate individuals concerned recommending
°110wing actions relating to the Board's staff:

41a-1'Y increase with change in title

tita 2dwin

G. White, from $7,260 to $7,560 per annum, with a change in
Okren4fr0m Analyst to Technical Assistant in the Division of Bank
-1(31.1s, effective December 24, 1961.
-4411Lat1on of employment
sva G. Kennedy, Statistical Assistant, Division of Research and
NtiE
tics, effective at the close of business December 3, 1961.

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arrangements for him
to e_ , Letter to Mr. George L. Stevens confirming
onauct two 24-hour courses in Reading Improvement for members of
e Board's staff as an activity of the Board's Employee Training and
beveloPment Program, with the understanding that the first course would
en on January 16, 1962, and the second course on March 27, 1962;
Mr. Stevens would provide all the equipment, materials, and
h„._'erences required for this program; and that the Board would pay
4-m at the completion of each course $40 for each participant in this
131
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0 8.m.

r

Memorandum dated December 19, 1961, from the Office of the
Cortr
oller recommending approval of certain anticipated overexpenditures
6he 1961 budgets of several divisions and offices of the Board.
Pursuant to the recommendations contained
in memoranda from appropriate individuals
concerned, Governor Robertson, acting in
the absence of Governor Shepardson, today
approved on behalf of the Board the following
items:

Statistics,
with Robert R. Wyand, II, as Economist, Division of Research and
uasic annual salary at the rate of $6,435, effective January 2, 1962.
Baxbara Lou Jones as Special Assistant Federal Reserve Examiner,
elfIcT)n of Examinations, with basic annual salary at the rate of $4,040,
LVe the date of entrance upon duty.
kee
of resignation
qtbjerome W. Shay, Legislative Counsel, Board Members' Offices, effective
'close of business December 280 1961.
Governor Robertson noted on behalf of the
Board a memorandum advising that the application for retirement filed by Bricen Barnes,
Bindery Helper and Operator, Mimeograph,
Division of Administrative Services, had been
approved, effective at the close of business
December 31, 1961.

Sec

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 1
12/2o/61

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

December 201 1961

The Chase Manhattan Bank,
?Ile Chase Manhattan Plaza,
New York 15, New York.
Gentlemen:

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
authorizes The Chase Manhattan Bank, New York, New York, pur21_101t to the provisions of Sections 9 and 25 of the Federal
rerve Act, to establish a branch in the City of Port-of2.1111, Trinidad, The West Indies, and to operate and maintain
'Ilch branch subject to the provisions of such Sections.
Unless the branch is actually established and opened
el' business on or before December 1, 1962, all rights granted
shall be deemed to have been abandoned and the authority
here
rebY granted will automatically terminate on that date.

P

Please advise the Board of Governors in writing, through
the p
-ederal Reserve Bank of New York when the branch is opened
information as to the exact location of
the business, furnishing
branch.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

Item No. 2
12/20/61

TELEGRAM
LEASED WIRE SERVICE

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

December 20, 1961
11°tISE - NEW YORK
1°141mire December 14. Board approves granting of loan on gold up to
to+..,
"*"7 of $15 million by your Bank to the Banco de la Republica on
the r
alowing terms and conditions:
(a) To be made up to 98 per cent of the value of
gold bars set aside in your vaults under pledge to
you;
(b)

To mature in three months with option to repay

at any time before maturity, both the loans and repayments to be in multiples of $1 million;
(c) To bear interest at the discount rate of your
Bank in effect on the date on which such loan or loans
are made; and
(d)

To be requested and made on or before December 27.

-understood that the usual participation will be offered to
the
Other Federal Reserve Banks.

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
SHERMAN

(Tele

;r8121 refers to Banco de la Republica (Colombia))
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

Item No. 3
12/20/61
OFFIOE OF THE CHAIRMAN

December 21, 1961

Merle E. Robertson, President,
-336,,rtY National Bank and Trust Company
1,111.1
Louisville,
ille 1, Kentucky.
bear
Robertson:
I have read with much interest your letter of December 8,
regarding payment of interest on savings deposits and, because
atte41,k It will also be of interest to them, I am bringing it to the
i°n of the other members of the Board.

1961

As you say in your letter, savings deposits for all practical
are payable on demand; yet, unlike demand checking accounts,
are "s deposits are permitted to bear interest and, in addition, they
Thiean.biect to lower reserve requirements than checking accounts.
!Mewhat privileged status has, of course, been accorded to saythe n''€Torsits in order to encourage thrift by the public; and, with
l'qte-anle Purpose in mind, the Board has always prescribed a maximum
pe °f interest on savings deposits equal to the highest maximum rate
tted with respect to any time deposits.

PlIrpos

es

clopoa4
At the same time, we are aware of the possibility that savings
'
te, because of their demand nature, may be improperly used for
orciin
tor TharY checking purposes. For this reason, the Board's regulations
41c1 -anY Years required savings deposits to be represented by passbooks
to trrIllitted member banks to make payments from savings deposits only
n depositor himself or to a third person holding and presenting
the :
qC,
180300k. Several years ago, in view of the development of the use
aa- anical equipment by banks, the Board relaxed its regulations
114t () permit non-passbook savings accounts, but with a limitation
'lloth:lleh accounts may be paid only to the depositor himself. As
Nzler means of preventing abuses of savings deposits, the Boardts
Q t.t,aa".tions permit them to be maintained only by individuals or by
In tYpes of nonprofit corporations.
.q1 terii,, Recently, certain situations have come to the Boardts
L°n that appear to be inconsistent with the proper use of savNounts and in order to prevent abuses, the Board has amended
()n Q in certain respects to become effective January 15. In
cop,,•erit
°
that you have not yet seen these amendments, I am enclosing
4 for your information.

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Merle E. Robertson

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The spread of the practice of computing interest on savings
deposits on a daily basis, that is, from the date of deposit to the
date of withdrawal, has been a source of some concern to the Board
in recent months. As you know, the Boardls regulations permit a
member bank to compute interest on any basis desired by the member
bank provided the amount of interest paid does not exceed the amount
that would be paid at the relevant maximum rate of interest prescribed
by the Board when compounded quarterly. Consequently, subject to this
limitation, there is nothing to prevent member banks from computing
interest on a daily basis. In one respect, this practice may be
regarded as desirable since it makes it unnecessary for a bona fide
savings depositor to sacrifice interest if he is obliged to make a
withdrawal between regular interest dates. However, the Board has
recognized that the practice might lead to abuses if it should encourage individuals or eligible organizations to make savings deposits
in large amounts for only a few days merely in order to obtain interest
011 temporarily idle funds. Obviously, this would not be consistent
with the basic purposes of a savings deposit.
For the reasons just indicated, the Board has asked the
Pederal Reserve Banks to watch carefully the development of the
c1113 -interest practice and to report to the Board any instances in
which the practice may be leading to abuses. You may be sure that
Ile will expect to give this matter our continuous attention.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Wm. Mc.C. Martin, Jr.
"MIL McC. Martin, Jr.

Zriclosure

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No• 4

12/2061

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

Deember 22, 1961

b
trz,
m s 0 ert V. Fleming,
man of the Board,
iggs National Bank,
—suington 13, D. C.
Dear

Fleming:

This is in reference to your letter of December 19, 1961
'
a.a Chairman Martin regarding the service of Hr. Alvin M. Parker
director of The aiggs National Bank and as a director of the
ndria National Bank, Alexandria, Virginia. It appears that
ele Parker was elected to succeed Mr. Thomas A. Butt who was
erZted a director or The Riggs National Bank in January 1947 and
1143'r as a director or both banks until his death in 1958. There
_'herefore been a continuity of service of anproximately
dears.
4

It appears that the corporate boundaries of Alexandria
•
1
411(1'da.
for a certain distance and that
D. C. coincide
r 4.4.811neton,
the
ect?-Lore the two places are "contiguous" within the meaning of
Ile ,l;°/1 8 of the Clayton Act. However, in view of the fact that
elationship, as stated above, has had a continuity of
a.l
011
mately 15 years, the Board interposes no objection based
"e provisions or the Clayton Act to Mr. Parkerts continuing
z(g,clirector to both banks with the understanding that when his
4-ce
no succeeding interlocking director will be
eted.terminates
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.
Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
'onptroller of the Currency

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
ot')

OF THE

Item No.

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

12/20/61

WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

December 19, 1961

The Honorable Paul H. Douglas, Chairman,
bubeommittee on Production and Stabilization,
Committee on Banking and Currency,
United States Senate,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Chairman:
As requested in your letter of September 25, 1961,
there is enclosed herewith a compilation of the State statutes
Which relate to the provisions of section 4 of S. 1740, a bill
'To assist in the promotion of economic stabilization by requiring the disclosure of finance charges in connection with
extensions of credit."
This compilation has been prepared by the Legal
Division of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
bystem on the basis of compilations of State statutes prepared
by counsel for the Federal Reserve Banks by means of an examination of the laws of the various States. In order to avoid
making the compilation even more voluminous than it is, it has
been edited so as to include only those items which bear direct1Y on the subject and so as to omit a large volume of provisions
Which are related only indirectly to it.
We hope the compilation will be helpful in your further study of S. 1740.
Sincerely yours,
N.\
i
1:g
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Wm. McC. hartin, Jr.

Lnclosure

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