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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
8 tem was held in Washington on Tuesday, December 1, 1942, at 10:35

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Dreibelbis, General Attorney
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Attorney
Mr. Thomas, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
In connection with the discussion of the current Treasury fiN41cirl
g campaign and System open market operations, Mr. McKee stated
that it
had come to his attention that some banks were unwilling to
op a
war loan deposit accounts for the reason that they did not want
to m
alrltain reserves against war loan deposits or to pay the Federal
clePcIsit
insurance assessments on such deposits. He felt that, unless
Bottle a
°titan were taken, the increase in war loan deposit accounts
W0414
11°t be large enough to permit of the most efficient handling of
QIN
exit borrowing, and he stated that he had been discussing the
41mt
with members of the Board and members of the Legal Division for




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Purpose of ascertaining whether there was some way in which the

Problem could be
met.
A discussion ensued of the question whether a procedure could
bevin
-1''ed out which would avoid the necessity of classifying the proceeds
4-rom the sale of Government securities, which under the present
Prc)cedure are held in war loan deposit accounts, as deposits subject
to
serve requirements and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
48e5snaent.
It was understood that Mr. McKee would
take the matter up with Under Secretary of
the Treasury Bell with a view to having representatives of the legal divisions of the Treasury, the Board of Governors, and the Federal
Deposit Insurance Corporation consider the matter for the purpose of exploring whether some
solution of the problem could be found within
the framework of the present law.
Thurston stated that he had just received a call from
Feraitfld Kuhn, Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury, in which
the 1
aatter stated that the Treasury had received a number of complaints
trc)tq

e
th- press that discrimination had been shown in the placing in

Palper's throughout the country of the full-page advertisements which
4PPerpea
this week with respect to the forthcoming Treasury financing,
that
413Parent4 the lack of information concerning the circumstances
k4kier
Which the advertisements were prepared and placed was resulting
the
Illisunderstanding, and that as a means of correcting such mist4prt7ding the Treasury would like the Board to send a telegram to
eeldents of all the Federal Reserve Banks giving such information,




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it be,.
-Lug understood that the Treasury would send a similar telegram to
the vict ry
° Fund Committees and to the field offices of its war savings
atarr.
After a discussion, it was agreed unanimously that Mr. Thurston should call Mr. Kuhn
and tell him that the Board would like him to
prepare a draft of statement which might be
sent to the Federal Reserve Banks as a statement coming from the Treasury and that when the
statement had been received it would be given
consideration by the Board.
Thurston withdrew from the meeting for this purpose, and
11Pori his
return read a draft of statement which had been telephoned to
bY Mr.
Kuhn•
a410

It appeared that the draft would not be satisfactory

corisiderable doubt was expressed as to whether there was any need

tor sending
a wire as proposed.
It was understood that Mr. Thurston would
endeavor to revise the draft of statement in
the light of the discussion, and further consideration was deferred.
Messrs. Goldenweiser and Thomas withdrew from the meeting at

this

Point.
Mr. Szymezak referred to a letter received from Mr. McLarin,

Pr4iderlt of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, under date of No25, 1942, outlining the need of the Bank for additional space,
Iteterl'irig to
the action taken at the meeting of the board of directors

cthe Bank in November authorizing the executive committee to cont&IitLe negotiations and, subject to the approval of the Board of Govtioris, to
offer up to $175,000 for the six-story brick building




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-4the building now occupied by the Bank, and requesting authoritYfor the
Bank to make an offer for the property within the discretion
Of the board
of directors. In connection with the consideration of Mr.
kar.
Ill's letter, Mr. Szymczak outlined briefly the conversation with
48Peet to
the proposed purchase of this property which he had with Mr.
Neel
Chairman of the Atlanta Bank, when the latter was in Lashington
last week.

It was agreed unanimously that Mr.
McLarin's letter should be circulated among
the members of the Board for consideration
at the next meeting of the Board at which
all of the members were present.
141". Dreibelbis stated that yesterday Mr. Keech, Corporation
C°11rieel for the District of Columbia, called on the telephone and stated
1414t hs had been
waiting to hear further from the Board with respect to
the IpaPilent of taxes on the Board's building, and that he told Mr. Keech
ht
t
he had not understood that the Board was to communicate with him
bilt

rather that his telephone conversation of November 16, 1942,

IlLt1111111 Wyatt was made as a matter of courtesy to the Board.

Mr.

4eibelbis went on to say that he informed Mr. Keech that he had talked
Carusi, Executive Assistant to the Attorney General, on an in''.S regarding the matter, and that thereafter the matter had
beellconsidered by the Board which had taken the position that it should
:
:
tItlk II° action at this time, but that it was anticipated that during
til

es of the next year there would be certain matters affecting

ederal Reserve System concerning which the Board would wish to
Ntorlita
"(I to Congress that legislation be passed, and that if this




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811(411d develop it was hoped that the question as to what should be done
about the
taxation of the Board's building could be settled at that
Ur. Dreibelbis added that after the conversation with Mr. Keech
he ealled Mr. Carusi again and informed him of the position that the
11°a/
'
d had taken in the matter, that Mr. Carusi was inclined to do nothltig in the matter
until further action was taken by the District

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and that he told Mr. Carusi that if the property wereCornOfles adfor sale it would only make the position of the District Com411.881.°11ers more difficult, that,if any action were to be taken by the
qfice of
the Attorney General, Mr. Carusi might want to give censidel'atl•°11 to such action before the building was advertised, and that if
heThollad desire to do so he (Mr. Dreibelbis) would be glad to talk
(4.11 him and Mr. Keech about it.

Mr. Dreibelbis stated that he also

t"d 14% Carusi that he proposed to call Mr. Keech again and make the
4'4)1e suggestion to him, and that Mr. Carusi's response was that he
take the matter up with the people in his office who were han41r1k
'"

kid, he

Subsequent to the conversation with Mr. Carusi, Mr. Dreibelbis

talked with Mr. Simon, Assistant Corporation Counsel, in the

%tlee Of Mr. Keech and repeated the offer to consider with Messrs.
1Ceech
and Carusi whether there was any ground upon which an agreement
c'411c1 be reached.
In the discussion which ensued, Mr. Dreibelbis referred to the
411
'/141-ch had passed the House of Representatives and was now pend'‘11€ bet—
're the Senate, which would exempt from taxation by the District




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o
C°11111thia all property of the United States Government, and stated
that one of
the possible ways to meet the problem would be for the
Senate Committee to include in its report on the bill a statement that
thell
°ard's building was regarded as property of the United States Gayarid therefore was not mentioned in the bill as being exempt
fr°111 taxation by the District of Columbia.
At the conclusion of the discussion,
it was understood that Mr. Dreibelbis would
discuss this suggestion with Messrs. Carusi
and Keech and, if such a procedure were agreeable to them, that the matter should be taken
up by them with Senator McCarran, Chairman of
the Senate Committee on the District of Columbia.
Mr. Morrill referred to a telegram dated November 30, 1942,
troral,
'r. Leedy, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City,
Which .
- it was stated that as a part of the present Treasury financamPaign the suggestion had been made that banks having tine de-

13(laits be
permitted to pay such deposits prior to their maturity with
interest on the condition that the proceeds would be used
thx‘°11gh the
banks of deposit for the purchase of one or more of the
Ntrent

Government offerings and that, if the Board had not already

ciered an amendment to Regulation Q which would permit this being
(1°11e, Ur.
Leedy would appreciate the question being submitted to the
130aro.

Mr. Morrill was requested to reply to the
telegram by stating that the subject had been
brought up a number of times during the past
year and had been under informal discussion
with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation




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and the Treasury, but that so far the Treasury
had not felt that action to permit such withdrawals should be taken and consequently the
suggestion had not been pressed beyond the
point of informal consideration.
At this point, Messrs. Thurston, Smead, Dreibelbis, and Vest

wiAlldrew from
the meeting, and the action stated with respect to each
"
he matters hereinafter referred
to was then taken by the Board,
elk
Illan Eccles participating:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
?eclerea Reserve System
held on November 30, 1942, were approved unani111(4181Y.
Bond in the amount of $102000, executed under date of November
1
19.„
'

by T.
Wesley Bagby as Federal Reserve Agent's Representative

4 the
Charlotte Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated November 20, 1942, from Mr. Smead, Acting Adktlitetl'ator for the V#ar Loans Committee, recommending
that the followeeas in salaries of employees in the Office of the Administrator
tc)r th
e War Loans Committee be approved, effective as of December 1, 1942:
ILMe
Palzcette, Olive C.
liqmes, Mary
Severud, Esther




Designation

Salary Increase
To
From

Clerk-Typist
Clerk
Stenographer

$1,620 $1,800
1,560
1,620
1,680
1,800

Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Hill, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
Of

Phil
adelphia, reading as follows:
t "In accordance with the request contained in your leter of November 27, 19L2, the Board approves the designation
c)f the following as special assistant examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia:
James A. Aikens
Edgar H. Lythgoe
Clifford R. Thatcher
Willis W. Ulmer
Edwin M. Moore
John A. Murphy
Hugh S. Campbell
tilliam J. Allen
James A. Gordon
John J. Brenner"
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Mulroney, Vice President of the Federal Reserve

8411t of C
hicago, reading as follows:
"In accordance with the request contained in your letof November 24, 1942, the Board approves the appointOf.
Edwin Noah Davis as an assistant examiner for the
d:
eral Reserve Bank of Chicago. Please advise us of the
"
a upon which the appointment becomes effective."

ter

Approved unanimously.

Letter to Mr. Mulroney, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
r Chicago, reading as follows:
ter "In accordance with the request contained in your letNovember 25, 1942, the Board approves the appointfont °f Daniel Bartlett Elliott as an assistant examiner
cljthe Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. Please advise us
the date upon which the appointment becomes effective."
Approved unanimously.
rtatii4

Letter to
the Presidents of all the Federal Reserve Banks,
as follows:

oections 5(a) and 5(c) of Regulation W refer to payrite
to be made on the tenth day of the calendar month,




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N-,
I'vu since this day falls on a Sunday in January next, the
question has been asked whether payment may be deferred
Until the following day.
In accordance with the general rule in such cases,
!there the tenth
day of the calendar month falls on Sunday,
he final
day for the purposes of sections 5(a) and 5(c)
18 the
eleventh."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Kennel, Assistant Counsel of the Federal Reserve
84krat

vl Boston, reading as follows:

"Your letter of November 10 addressed to Dr. Parry inill-1'es as to the form of the agreement referred to in section
? (2) of Regulation Wy and inquires as to the degree of for'JAY which is required.
th "Section 5(d)(2) calls for a 'written agreement' to pay
t;le. amount in default within six months or less by substanlellY equal instalments of not less than $5.00 per month or
0125 per week at equal intervals not exceeding one month.
an instalment agreement which satisfies these reV-1
4. reizents would usually have a fair degree of formality,
as long as the written document or documents contain all
su, elements of the agreement no particular
formality is reThe sincerity of the customer in making the agree181 of course, an element as to which the Registrant
aris
a id be satisfied, since the agreement must be in good faith,
14„ the formality of the documents would have some bearing
ecnnthis point.
Re , 48 you suggest, the Regulation does not require that the
actistrantl 8 adherence to the agreement be in writing. The
th of the Registrant in preparing a form of agreement for
toe customer to sign would ordinarily signify his readiness
ho "CePt the agreement when signed. In the case you described,
towever, where the customer writes to the Registrant promising
to PaY at certain times, it would be well for the Registrant
as evidence of acceptance, a communication to the
cUsZoeyntid'
indicating that he has agreed to the customer's pro-

T

Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable Elmer Davis, Director of the Office of War
cartiEltio„
reading as follows:




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"In your letter of November 23, which has just been
/:.,ceived, you asked to be informed whether a security oflacer had been designated by the Board, as requested in
Your letter of September 28.
"Following receipt of your Regulation Number One, we
nfo
Irmed
you in our letter of July 25 that Mr. Elliott
Thurston, Special Assistant to the Chairman of the hoard
°f Governors, had been designated as the Board's repre181entative, with authority to cooperate with the Office of
"
w Information in expediting the handling of classes of
21i information requiring central clearance. We regret
at we
failed to realize that your letter of September 28
211ed for an additional designation, and hasten to inform
You
Mr. Thurston is the official designated as secu,,ltY officer as well as the representative designated in
ulir letter of July 25. Mr. Thurston has already been in
—uunication with your offices."

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Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

eake."2:
Secretary.