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Minutes for August 5, 1965 To: Members of the Board From: Office of the Secretary Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the above date. It is proposed to place in the record of policy actions required to be kept under the provisions of section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act an entry covering the item in this set of minutes commencing on the page and dealing with the subject referred to below: Page 1 Amendment to Regulation Q, Payment of Interest on Deposits. Should you have any question with regard to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below. If you were present at the meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present, your initials will indicate only that you have seen the minutes. Chm. Martin Gov. Robertson Gov. Balderston Gov. Shepardson Gov. Mitchell Gov. Daane Gov. Maisel Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on Thursday, August 5, 1965. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.mPRESENT: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Martin, Chairman Balderston, Vice Chairman Shepardson Mitchell Maisel Sherman, Secretary Kenyon, Assistant Secretary Hackley, General Counsel Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations Mr. O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Shay, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of Examinations Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of the Secretary Mr. Young, Senior Attorney, Legal Division Mr. Egertson, Supervisory Review Examiner, Division of Examinations Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Discount rates. The establishment without change by the Federal Reserve Banks of Minneapolis and Kansas City on August 4, 1965, of the rates on discounts and advances in their existing schedules was approved unanimously, ith the understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to those Banks. Application of Wells Fargo Bank (Item No. 1). Unanimous approval was given to a letter to Wells Fargo Bank, San Francisco, California, aPproving the establishment of a branch at Homestead Road and Kiely Boulevard, Santa Clara. A copy of the letter is attached as Item No. 1. Amendment to Regulation Q (Item No. 2). There had been distributed a memorandum dated August 3, 1965, from the Legal Division reconmiending -2- 8/5/65 that section 217.3(a) of Regulation Q, Payment of Interest on Deposits, be amended to reflect the approval on July 21, 1965, of an act amending section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act so as to continue from October 15, 1965, until October 15, 1968, the exemption of deposits of foreign governments and certain foreign institutions from regulation by the Board of Governors as to rates of interest member banks may pay on time deposits. Attached to the memorandum was a draft of amendment. The amendment, a copy of which is attached as Item No. 2, was ...ausly.td unanimously effective August 5, 1965. Application of Marine Midland Trust Company (Items 3-5). At Yesterday's meeting the Board had discussed drafts of an order and statement reflecting the Board's approval on July 14, 1965, of the application of The Marine Midland Trust Company of New York to acquire the assets and assume the liabilities of Grace National Bank of New York, both banks being in New York CityYr A related problem concerned the question to what extent and in what terms the statement should mention allegations made in a letter addressed to Mr. Hackley by Thurman Arnold, of the law firm of Arnold, Fortas & Porter, as counsel for Michael P. Grace, II, to the effect that the proposed acquisition by Marine Midland would violate Principles of equitable protection of minority stockholders' rights and of creditors' rights. There had now been distributed a second draft of statement, revised to reflect the views expressed during yesterday's discussion. * The title of the acquiring bank would be changed to Marine Midland Grace Trust Company of New York, -3- 8/5/65 Comments during today's meeting related principally to editorial suggestions and matters of procedure. The members of the Board expressed general satisfaction with the substance of the revised statement, but it was noted that Governor Robertson, who was testifying before a Congressional committee today, had not had an opportunity to finalize his dissenting statement. Under the Board's internal rules of procedure it would be possible for a dissenting statement to be issued subsequent to the release of the majority statement. However, it was the consensus that it would be preferable to have both statements issued at the same time. Comment was made also that Judge Arnold had indicated orally that additional material bearing upon his complaints on behalf of his client would be submitted to the Board toward the end of this week, and the Board might be somewhat vulnerable to criticism if it issued its order and statement without waiting to receive that material. At the conclusion of the discussion the issuance of the Board's order and statement was authorized, with the understanding that they would be issued in company with Governor Robertson's dissenting statement. Secretary's Note: At the meeting on August 6, 1965, Mr. Hackley reported that a further letter, with certain enclosures, had been received from the law firm of Arnold, Fortas & Porter. There was general agreement with Mr. Hackley's recommendation that the contents of the latest submission should be digested by the Legal Division and that the pertinent portion of the majority statement should be reviewed and amended to such extent as might appear appropriate in the light of such analysis. It was also agreed that in the absence 8/5/65 -4of unforeseen developments necessitating further Board consideration, the order, statement, and dissenting statement would then be issued. The hope was expressed that the review of the latest submission would not delay too greatly the issuance of the Board's order. The aforementioned review having been accomplished, and it appearing to the Legal Division that there was no compelling reason to bring the matter back to the Board, the order, statement, and dissenting statement were issued on August 10, 1965. Copies of the documents, as issued, are attached as Items 3, 4, and 5. Messrs. Young and Egertson then withdrew from the meeting. Manufacturers Hanover antitrust suit. On July 8, 1965, the Board received a confidential report from Mr. Solomon, based on information received informally from a representative of the Department of Justice, regarding possible settlement of the antitrust suit against Manufacturers Hanover Trust Company, New York City. At today's meeting Mr. Solomon reported further advice on the negotiations, which contemplated that Manufacturers Hanover would sell to a selected bank in New York City a S pecified number of branches. One feature of the plan was said to be the acceptance by Manufacturers Hanover of debentures of the other bank. There ensued a general discussion of the advice received, including the reported means of financing the sale of the branches, and in broader terms the implications of a pyramiding of bank capital from the standpoint of consequences for the banking system. Since the negotia- tions in the Manufacturers Hanover case apparently were still in the formative stage, it was pointed out that it could not be said with ' -5- 8/5/65 certainty what final plan, if any, might come before the Board for approval. However, there was a consensus that, since a representative of the Department of Justice had furnished the information to Mr. Solomon, it would be appropriate for the latter to indicate to the Justice representative informally that there might be some question if a proposal should come before the Board for approval that involved a financing element such as reportedly was under consideration. All of the members of the staff except Mr. Sherman then withdrew and Mr. Holland, Associate Director, Division of Research and Statistics, entered the room. Study of discount mechanism. Governor Mitchell stated that the committee appointed at yesterday's meeting of the Board (Governor Mitchell, Chairman, and Governors Shepardson and Maisel) had prepared a tentative program with respect to organizing the study of fundamental reforms that might be made in the discount mechanism. He then proceeded to read a memorandum as follows: In response to the Board's request, we have considered the organizational and staffing requirements of the fundamental study of the discount mechanism approved at the meeting of August 4, 1965, and have the following recommendations to make. We recommend that the overall direction of the study be undertaken by a Steering Committee consisting of four Federal Reserve Bank Presidents and three members of the Board, plus the Chairman of the Board ex officio. This Committee should be assisted by a small Advisory Committee of Federal Reserve Bank Chairmen and Deputy Chairmen to advise on considerations of public relations and the public interest. 8/5/65 -6- The Steering Committee should be served by an 11-man Secretariat, comprised of senior Reserve Bank and Board officials plus one senior economist from the Board staff. The Secretariat would be responsible for organizing all aspects of the discount study under the guidelines laid down by the Steering Committee. Such organizational activity would include developing suggestions for studies to be considered by the parent committee, arranging for the personnel and other resources necessary to conduct such studies, and assembling and integrating the results of the studies for presentation to the Steering Committee. It is expected that a number of small working groups of System personnel would be organized to study various aspects of the discount mechanism, some concentrating on possible improvements in rules and operations that could be developed and instituted fairly quickly and others undertaking longer-range reappraisals that might provide a basis for more fundamental reforms of the discount mechanism as time progresses. Progress reports and possible recommendations for action would be presented periodically by the Steering Committee to the Board. Such reports and recommendations could also be transmitted to the Conference of Presidents, with requests for the views of the Presidents whenever appropriate. Listed below are suggestions for membership on the groups proposed in this memorandum. Steering Committee Governor Mitchell, Chairman Governor Shepardson Governor Maisel Chairman Martin, ex officio President Bopp (Philadelphia) President Clay (Kansas City) President Scanlon (Chicago) President Shuford (St. Louis) Secretariat Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Holland, Chairman (Board) Young (Board) Farrell (Board) Hackley (Board) F. Solomon (Board) Shull, Secretary (Board) -7- 8/5/65 Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Coldwell (First Vice President, Dallas) Strothman (First Vice President, Minneapolis) Bilby (Vice President, New York) Melnicoff (Vice President, Philadelphia) Merritt (Vice President, San Francisco) Chairman Martin noted that the Board's committee suggested the formation of a Steering Committee that would consist of eight members, as indicated in the memorandum read by Governor Mitchell, and a Secretariat that would consist of eleven members, with widespread System representation. Governor Mitchell stated that he had talked with President Bopp, who was enthusiastic about moving ahead on the study and who concurred in the arrangement both for the Steering Committee and for the Secretariat. Mr. Bopp also had concurred in a suggestion that the Steering Committee hold a meeting on August 10 when the Presidents of the Reserve Banks Would be in Washington for a meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee. Question was then raised as to the proposed Advisory Committee of Reserve Bank Chairmen mentioned in the memorandum read by Governor Mitchell and referred to in the staff memorandum of April 21. Governor Mitchell stated that the formation of such an Advisory Committee was to be considered further by the Steering Committee, that it Probably would not be desirable to appoint the Advisory Committee until the study had been organized more fully and gotten under way, but that it seemed desirable to provide for such a committee that might advise on considerations of public relations and the public interest. Governor e- vs. 8/5/65 -8- Mitchell also suggested, in response to a question, that the Advisory Committee might include representation from the Reserve Banks not represented on either the Steering Committee or the Secretariat. He noted, however, that the specific appointment of the Advisory Committee would probably be deferred for some period of time. After further discussion of the proposed arrangements for carrying forward the study, the Board approved unanimously the appointment of the Steering Committee as proposed in the memorandum read by Governor Mitchell, with the understanding that the latter would communicate with the four Reserve Bank Presidents listed to ascertain whether they would serve on the canmittee. It was also understood that appropriate advice would be given to the members of the Secretariat and that if possible a meeting of the Steering Committee would be held on August 10. Chairman Martin suggested that it would also seem desirable to have a brief joint meeting of the Board and the Presidents of the Reserve Banks following the meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee on August 10 to acquaint the Presidents fully with the steps being taken to implement the study of the discount instrument, as discussed at this Meeting and as reviewed by Governor Mitchell with Mr. Bopp as Chairman of the Conference of Presidents. Messrs. Young and Noyes, Advisers to the Board, entered the room during the foregoing discussion. Report on international developments. Chairman Martin reported On informal discussions that he had had with the Secretary of the Treasury 8/5/65 -9- and others regarding current developments in the foreign exchange situation, particularly as related to the United Kingdom. The meeting then adjourned. Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf of the Board a letter to J. M. Thayer, Jr., Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, advising that Mr. Kelleher, Director, Division of Administrative Services, would serve as an associate of the ad hoc subcommittee of the Committee on Systems and Procedures of the Conference of Presidents that had been requested to make a study of System purchasing procedures. Secretary_, Item No. 1 8/5/65 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551 ADORIC•• OfFICIAL CORNIIIIIPONOCNOIC TO THE •OARD August 5, 1965. Board of Directors, Wells Fargo Bank, San Francisco, California. Gentlemen: The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System approves the establishment by Wells Fargo Bank, San Francisco, California, of a branch at the intersection of Homestead Road and Kiely Boulevard, Santa Clara, California, provided the branch is established within one year from the date of this letter. Very truly yours, (Signed) Karl E. Bakke Karl E. Bakke, Assistant Secretary. (The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the Board also had approved a six-month extension of the period allowed to establish the branch; and that if an extension should be requested, the procedure prescribed in the Board's letter of November 9, 1962 (S-1846), should be followed.) Item No. 2 8 /5 /65 TITLE 12 - RANKS AND RANKING CHAPTER II - FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM SUBCHAPTER A -- BOARD OF GOVERNORS Of THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM [Reg. Q] PART 217 - PAYMENT OF INTEREST ON DEPOSITS Foreign Time Deposits 1. Effective August 5, 1965, paragraph (a) . of § 217.3 is amended to read as follows: 217.3 Maximum rate of interest on time and savings deposits. (a) Maximum rate prescribed from time to time. Except in accordance with the provisions of this part, no member bank shall pay interest on any time deposit or savings deposit in any manner, directly or indirectly, or by any method, practice, or device whatsoever. No member bank shall pay interest on any time deposit or savings deposit at a rate in excess of such applicable maximum rate as the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall prescribe from time to time; and any rate or rates which may be so prescribed by the Board will be set forth in supplements to this part, which will be issued in advance of the date upon which such rate or rates become effective. During the period commencing on October 15, 1962, and ending on October is, 1968, the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to the rate of interest which may be paid by member banks on time deposits of foreign governments, monetary and financial authorities of foreign governments when acting as such, or international financial institutions of which the United States is a member. -2- 2a. The purpose of this amendment is to amend the last sentence of f 217.3(a) so that it will conform with Public Law 89-79 (79 Stat. 244), approved July 21, 1965. That law extended for a Period of three years the exemption of deposits of foreign governments and certain foreign institutions from regulation by the Board of Governors as to the rate of interest that member banks may pay on time deposits. b. There was no notice and public participation with respect to this amendment, nor is the effective date thereof deferred. In the circumstances, twat procedure and delay would serve no useful Purpose. (See 5 262.1(e) of the Board's Rules of Procedure (12 CFR 262.1(e)).) (12 U.S.C. 248(i).) Dated at Washington, D. C., this 5th day of August, 1965. BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (SEAL) (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Item No. 3 8/5/65 BEFORE THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON, D. C. In the Matter of the Application of TRE MARINE MIDLAND TRUST COMPANY OF NEW YORK for approval of acquisition of assets of Grace National Bank of New York ORDER APPROVING ACQUISITION OF BANK'S ASSETS There has come before the Board of Governors pursuant to the Ilarik Merger Act of 1960 (12 U.S.C. 1828(c)), an application by The Marine Ilidland Trust Company of New York, New York, New York, a State member bank Of L tue Federal Reserve System, for the Board's prior approval of its acquisition of assets and assurnption of deposit liabilities of Grace 1Zat1°nal Bank of New York, New York, New York, and, as an incident thereto, The Marine Midland Trust Company of New York has applied, under section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act, for the Board's prior approval of the establishment by that bank of a branch at the location of the sole c)tfice of Grace National Bank of New York. Notice of the proposed eequison of assets and assumption of deposit liabilities, in form 4PPtoved by the Board, has been published pursuant to said Act. Upon consideration of all relevant material in the light of the factors set forth in said Act, including reports furnished by the -2on, Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporati and the Attorney General on the competitive factors involved in the Proposed transaction, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, for the reasons set forth in the Board's are approved, Statement of this date, that said applications be and hereby Provided that said acquisition of assets and assumption of deposit consummated liabilities and establishment of the branch shall not be or (b) later (a) within seven calendar days after the date of this Order than three months after said date. Dated at Washington, D. C. this 10th day of August, 1965. By order of the Board of Governors. Voting for this action: Chairman Martin, and Governors Balderston, Shepardson, Mitchell, Daane, and Maisel. Voting against this action: Governor Robertson. (Signed) Merritt Sherman Merritt Sherman, Secretary. BOARD OF GOVERNORS Item No. 4 8/5/65 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM APPLICATION BY TUE MARINE MIDLAND TRUST COMPANY OF NEW YORK FOR APPROVAL OF ACQUISITION OF ASSETS OF GRACE NATIONAL BANK OF NEW YORK STATEMENT The Ma-zinc Midland Trust Company of New York, New York, 44 'York ("Marine"), with total deposits of $951 million, has applied) Pursuant to the Bank Merger Act of 1960 (12 U.S.C. 5 1828(c)), for the 4ard's prior approval of its acquisition of assets and assumption of • abilities of Grace National Bank of New York, New York, New York ("crace"), which has total deposits of $292 million:— As an incident to the transaction, the name of the acquiring bank would be changed to it Marine Midland Grace Trust Company of New York", and the sole ce of Grace would become a branch of Marine, increasing its number () °ffices to 14. Under the law, the Board is required to consider, as to eaci, " of the banks involved, (1) its financial history and condition, (2) the adequacy of its capital structure, (3) its future earnings h°aPects, (4) the general character of its management, (5) whether its corporate powers are consistent with the purposes of 12 U.S.C., ehaPter 16 (the Federal Deposit Insurance Act), (6) the convenience -Posit figures are as of December 31, 1964. -2- and needs of the community to be served, and (7) the effect of the transaction on competition (including any tendency toward monopoly). The Board may not approve the transaction unless, after considering all of these factors, it finds the transaction to be in the public i nterest. Shortly before the issuance of its Order in this case, the Board received letters from a law firm representing a stockholder of Grace, requesting that the Board's decision be deferred until consideration was given by the Board to alleged inequities and violations of the rights of minority stockholders and creditors of Grace. The letters alleged (1) that the proposed transaction was "structured" as an acquisition of assets in order to avoid requirements of provisions of the national banking laws with respect to appraisal of the interests of r°inority stockholders in the case of a merger or consolidation 1.equirements that do not expressly apply to an acquisition of assets; and (2) that the transaction involves an absence of arm's-length dealing, in violation of the fiduciary obligation owed by majority stockholders to minority stockholders. The allegation that the proposed transaction is a de facto ger and therefore is, or should be subject to the "appraisal" Provisions of Federal law (12 U.S.C. 214-214c) designed to protect the L tig ts of minority stockholders of national banks, ignores the fact that Congress clearly has drawn a distinction in this respect between mergers 4nd acquisitions of assets. It ignores also the fact that the Bank Merger -3- Act of 1960 recognizes the existence of that distinction by specifically PrOviding for approval of "acquisitions of assets" as well as "mergers". The Comptroller of the Currency is principally responsible for administration of the national banking laws, including those relating to raergers and voluntary liquidations of national banks. He was ac- with the terms of the proposed transaction, and has presented 11° objections of the kind now raised by counsel for a stockholder of Grace. In these circumstances, the Board concludes that it would not be Warranted in deciding that the proposed transactio would involve n a 14°1etion of sections 214-216.c of Title 12 of the United States Code,. The allegation that the transaction violates a general fiduciary °bligation owing by majority stockholders to minority stockholders is riot based upon specific provisions of any Federal statute; and the Board d°ea tot interpret Federal statutes and judicial decisions as requiring the Board to adjudicate nonstatutory rights of minority stockholders. Information regarding the matters that were the subject of the ktorementioned letters was contained in the record before the Board " 11 °r to receipt of such letters and, in essential respects, in the 4Pplication in this case received by the Board January 15, 1965. the Notice proposal was published pursuant to the Bank ijerger Act in February 4114 'larch 1965. The substance of the various points in the letters is eas4, '117 identifiable from documents supplied by Grace with the notice, 44ted April 20, 1965, of the special meeting of that bank's stockholders Li °11 ay 13, 1965, at which the proposal was approved. Nevertheless, no -4- reason has been advanced on behalf of the protesting shareholder for his failure to present his objections at an earlier time, during the months that the pending proposal has been before the Board. In view of the circumstances stated above, the Board has concluded, after consideration of the arguments advanced in the letters case, Previously mentioned, that deferment of the Board's action in this for the reasons advanced in those arguments, would not be in the public interest. The Board's action does not, of course, preclude determina- tion of the rights of minority stockholders of Grace in an appropriate forum, and legal proceedings to determine such rights actually have been instituted. Banking factors. - Marine is an affiliate of Marine Midland Corporation, Buffalo, New York, a bank holding company registered under the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956, and Grace is the sole banking subsidiary of U. R. Grace & Co., New York, New York, the owner of over 80 per cent of the stock of the bank. W. R. Grace & Co. is engaged Chiefly in the chemical and food processing industries. The financial histories of Marine Midland and Grace are satisfactory, and each bank has a sound asset condition and an adequate capital structure. Each bank has a good earnings record and satisfactory future earnings prospects, and the management of each is experienced and competent. The acquiring bank would have capable management, a sound asset condition, an adequate al stucture, and good future earnings prospects. There is no indication that the corporate powers of the banks are, or 16. would be, inconsistent with the purposes of 12 U.S.C., Chapter _5- Convenience and needs of the communities. - Marine and Grace are headquartered in the borough of Manhattan, New York City. Of Ilsrine's 13 domestic offic es, 5 are located in the financial district Of lower Manhattan, 5 in the midtown area, and 3 in the central portion of the borough of Queens. The sole office of Grace is located at the outer fringe of Manhattan's financial distr ict, about 6 blocks from the main office of Marine and sever al blocks further from the latter's nearest branch. In the 6 blocks separating the proponent banks, there " 4 11 offices of other comme rcial ba4s. Marine offers complete "retail" banking services at all its °ffices and, although the princ ipal local area served is Manhattan, the ' bInk is closely linked through the holding company with other subsi diary banks elsevhere in New York State. Marine is also active in the national 4nd international markets. The bank recently established an office in Lnndon and a foreign banking subsidiary, Marine Midland International C°rPoration. The international transactions of Marine center around 134t8 of Europe, the Middle East, and, to a lesse r extent, the Far East. Grace, under the ownership of U. R. Grace & Co., has become a 8PeCialist in international banking, concentrating, in this respect, irt Latin American transactions. The bank does not solicit "retail" tr.,A it discourages small check ing and savings accounts, offers no to4stamer loans, has no real estate mortgage department, and normally 4tilizes the services of only a few tellers. With the abundant number of commercial banking offices in 11411hettan and the New York City metropolitan area provi ding a multitude 1'4.70 •-• ) -6- of services, the banking needs and convenience of the local community are being adequately satisfied. The proposed transaction, however, would result in a higher lending limit for Marine (but one still markedly lower than that of its next larger rival), and make possible certain economies in its °Perations. Of particular significance would be the ability of Marine to offer a broader range of international banking services and to do 80 throughout a broader geographical area. Thus, the customers of the Proponent banks would have available a somewhat wider variety of banking services than is presently provided by either bank. This would be e8pecial1y beneficial to the convenience of those customers crigaged in int ernational operations. — Competition. - Marine, with 1.8 per cent of the IPC deposits,' is the ninth largest of 44 commercial banks located in New York City 4nd Grace, with .6 per cent of such deposits, ranks fourteenth in this e8Pect. With the acquisition of Grace, Marine would rank eighth among 44 York City banks in terms of IPC deposits, but would be less than "e'half the size of the seventh largest bank and slightly more than °ne-fourth larger than the ninth ranking bank. Marine obtains 79 per Qetlt of its IPC deposits from the New York City metropolitan area and 63 per cent of such deposits from Manhattan. about 50 per Although Grace derives cent of its IPC deposits from customers located in Manhattan, of these use Grace only because of its well known connections and ti ytrtlse in international banking. They emphasize different types of 1)41m , ' .1rIg services and such competition as exists between the two banks is quite limited. are eposits of individuals, partnerships, and corporations. as of June 30, 1964. The figures ()(4,/4.7 -7and As was pointed out in the discussion of the convenience needs factor, Marine offers a full range of retail services, whereas Grace does not compete for such business. Indeed, it appears that the bulk of such "retail" services as are provided by Grace are for accommodation purposes, either for personnel of its own corporate family or f°r those of its corporate customers. In this connection, it is pertinent to note that the average IPC deposit of Grace is more than twice the size of that of narine. Further, a substantial number of the proponent bank_, deposit and loan accounts originating in nanhattan are attri- butable to large commercial and industrial enterprises for whose banklnr business there is a national market. While both banks are active in international banking, the de Pendence of Grace on business from this market is substantially ateater than that of Marine, a relative newcomer in the field. Harine attlIbutes about 5 per cent of its IPC deposits and 9 per cent of its 1°44s to the international market; comparable figures for Grace are 36 per cent and 30 per cent, respectively. This allocation was made °4 the basis of accounts with addresses outside the United States and a ccounts maintained primarily for business outside the United States. 14 ad dition, some companies have been attracted to these banks Part icularly so in the case of Grace with its high degree of 4Pecialization - because they wish to have expertise in international fin m4cial transaction available even though this service is used inecluently or for only a small part of their business. If these accounts -8- were included, over oae-half of Grace's IPC deposits and almost 0 °-hnlf of its loans outstanding would be attributable to the international market. As indicated earlier, the international transactions of the 470 banks center around different areas. Neither bank offers interna- tional banking services comparable to those offered by the major international banks of New York City. However, as a result of combining the international banking skills and resources of the two institutions as is proposed, Marine could readily develop an international banking department capable of increasing the vigor of competition in the international market. It seems quite unlikely that the acquisition of Grace by llarine would thwart significant potential competition in any market. Grace is a part of a corporate structure in which the banking business 141a generated as a by-product of other corporate operations. The funda- Mental purpose of Grace has been to deal with international banking tr ansactions for its parent. the The parent corporation now has shifted emphasis of its operations from transportation and trading to other fields and no longer regards a banking affiliate as of special usefulness. In these circumstances, the parent merely wants to get out of the banking field and is not interested in having Grace expand its t4ther limited range of banking services. Marine, as previously noted, is a subsidiary of Marine Midland Cor poration, a registered bank holding company with a total of 11 corn- banks that operate 201 offices in 119 communities in New York -9State. The $3.1 billion aggregate deposits held by Marine Midland Corporation's banking a2filiates represent 5.4 per cent of the total deposits of all commercial banks in New York State; with the acquisition (4 Grace the portion of such deposits held would increase to 5.9 per cent. The nearest affiliate of Marine Midland Corporation to Marine in Nyack, some 40 miles north of downtown Manhattan. Although the 10 subsidiaries of Marine Midland Corporation located outside New York City derive about 3.7 per cent of their deposits from accounts with metropolitan area addresses, and 3.1 per cent of their loans are to borrowers with such addresses, these deposits and loans are less than *2 Per cent of the deposits and loans held by New York City headquartered 1144ks. OZ Grace obtains about 2 per cent of its deposits and 5 per cent tts loans from portions of New York State outside the metropolitan area. Because of Marine Midland Corporation's banking subsidiaries 4cated in various parts of the State, an application to absorb a bankina unit into the I;arine Midland group requires that consideration be "ven to the possibility that the absorption may have adverse effects cn banks that compete with subsidiaries of the holding company. On this Point it is relevant that Grace's correspondent activity is, and gives Very prospect o2 being no more than, extremely limited both as to the 444 of services of:ered and the extent to which it is availed of by banh ' in the areas served by the holding company's subsidiaries. Grace has 10 correspondent banks located in areas served by banks of the Marine and group; all 10 have other New York City bank correspondents, with A 9 IV .4.„, -10- numerous other alternatives also available to them. While the size of liarine Midland Corporation is impressive, it does not appear that the addition of Grace would lead to any significant adverse effects upon banking competition. Summary and conclusion. - The proposed acquisition of Grace by Marine, if consummated, would result in a slight increase in con- cenlration of banking resources. However, competition (existing and Potential) between the two banks is quite limited, and such acquisition vould not result in any significant adverse competitive effect. tOue It is expected that the transfer of Grace to Marine would provide for the continuation and improvement of a banking office which seems almost certainly destined for liquidation or other disposition by its parent; and it would seem likely that the absorption of Grace - if this proposal Ilete to be rejected - would be more attractive to a bank larger, instead of a bank smaller, than Marine. The banking public, and especially the eonvenience for banking customers in the international market, would be benefited as a result of combining the resources and complementary skills Of th -e proponent banks, and this would also enhance competition, most si„ Olificantly in the market for international banking services. Accordingly, the Board finds that the proposed transaction 11(341d be in the public interest. August 10, 1965. DISSENTING STATEMENT OF GOVERNOR ROBERTSON Item No. 5 8/5/65 I am unable to find evidence in the record of this case to support the view of the majority that the proposed transaction would be in the public interest within the meaning of the Bank Merger Act of 1960. The majority concludes that there is little significance in the fact that Marine and Grace obtain, respectively, about 63 per cent and 50 per cent of their IPC deposits from Manhattan (and neglects to mention that each also obtains about 50 per cent of its loan accounts from the same area). Essentially, two reasons are given for this "nclusion: first, it is said that "Marine offers a full range of retail services,whereas Grace does not compete for such business"; and, secondly, it is said that "a substantial number of the proponent banks' deposit and loan accounts originating in Manhattan are attributable t° large commercial and industrial enterprises for whose banking business there is a national market". Taken at face value, these two reasons together lead to the conclusion that the banks are substantial competrs in offering wholesale banking services for those businesses that, desPite access to a national market, find it desirable to have alternati ve sources of such services in New York City. 414Y The fact that there ea national market for a product or service does not preclude the existence also of a meaningful local market for the same product °r service. See, e.a., Brown Shoe Co. v. United States, 370 U.S. 294, 336-37 (1962). This possibility, unfortunately, is given short shrift bY the majority. Nwl 4 1 -2- Further - although the majority is so unimpressed as to omit the fact - it is not without significance, I think, that the acquisition of Grace will boost iiarine fourteen places in rank among the nation's largest banks, from thirty-sixth to twenty-second in terms of total dePosits. In addition, I cannot accept the view that, simply because Grace has, in effect, been labeled a limited service bank and Marine 4 full service bank, there is no significant competition existing between them. The record shows that of the twenty-one principal banking services provided by Marine, Grace provides twenty - every one except consumer instalment loans. In considering the market for international banking services, the majority u stresses that the international transactions of the two banks center around different areas: Latin American in the case of Grace; Europe, the -Addle East and, to a lesser extent, the Far East in the case of '21arine. Apparently, the intended implication is that Gl:ace and Marine do not compete for the same kind of international banking business and the proposed acquisition can, therefore, have no adverse competitive effects in this market. that The fact is, however, Grace maintains more than 500 international banking correspondent l'elationships in 55 countries. These circumstances do not support the e°nclusion that there is no significant competition between the proponent banks in the international market. Further, I do not think it is particularly meaningful that tine attributes only 5 per cent of its IPC deposits to the r,I 0 ' lt.„7k5 -3- Grace. international market as compared to 36 per cent for In absolute international figures, the IPC deposits of Grace attributed to the $29 million. market total over $62 million and those of Marine total over with resources Marine, a member of a gigantic bank holding company group erable about eighteen times as great as those of Grace and with consid needs to acquire Personnel and skills in the international field, hardly ss. Grace to develop its international - or any other - banking busine proponent In this connection, if the international transactions of the areas, Marine's banks do in fact center around different geographical in any Ilish to acquire Grace suggests that it is a potential competitor event - i.e., desirous of entry through internal expansion into the areas now served by Grace. Instead of increasing the vigor of competi- of Grace will tien in the international banking market, the acquisition ational banking by enable Marine to augment its position in intern eliminating a substantial competitive force. that the A most disturbing finding by the majority is acquisition of Grace by Marine would not foreclose significant potential ation no longer c°mPetition in any market since Grace's parent corpor wants to withfinds a banking affiliate of special usefulness, merely in having Grace from the banking field and is not interested e Pand its range of banking services. Of course, if the transaction were not approved and Grace failed to offer new services, it would or would not mean that Marine - or other commercial banks - could not, those presently 11(3t, offer banking services in direct competition with . 4)I)0t) -4- offered by Grace. More fundamentally, by its willingness to approve asset acquisitions under the circumstances of this case, the majority effectively removes the reed for banks such as Grace to offer additional services. The denial of the application would, no doubt, entail some inconvenience for the owners of Grace. Under the Bank Merger Act, however, the paramount consideration is the general public interest, not the convenience of stockholders. More particularly, it is incredible that the majority is capable of giving as a reason for approving the proposal that Grace "seems almost certainly destined for liquidation or other disposition by its parent; and it would seem more likely that the absorption of Grace - if this proposal were to be rejected - would be more attractive to a bank larger, instead of a bank smaller, than Marine." Does the majority actually fear that, if it rejects this proposal, it (or another banking agency, depending on the Federal affiliation of the applicant) will, or must, approve the absorption of Grace by a bank larger than Marine? The very purpose of the Bank Merger Act, although not to prevent the owners of banks fr.= d isposing of their holdings, is to assure that such dispositions are agencies, in the public interest and, in this connection, the banking including this Board, are charged with the responsibility of assessing, and giving weight to, the consequences for banking competition. The acquisition of Grace will increase Marine's IPC deposits move by more than 30 per cent; in terms of total deposits, Marine will .5.., well into the billion dollar category. The 14 largest commercial banks headquartered in New York City, which include the proponent banks, account for nearly 97 per cent of the IPC deposits held by all such banks. After the proposed acquisition, the city's eight largest commercial banks, which include Marine, will hold more than 39 per cent of the IPC deposits of the city's commercial banks - and it is no answer that Grace presently holds only .6 per cent of such deposits. un the contrary, if concentration is already great, the importance of Preventing even slight increases in concentration and so preserving the possibility of eventual deconcentration is correspondingly great." United States. v. Philadelphia National .3ank, 374 U.S. 321, 365 n. 42 (1963). Finally, the finding of the majority that the addition of Grace's resources to Marine Midland Corporation's bank holding company sYstem would lead to no significant adverse effects for banking compethe tition, as well as the finding that the transaction would benefit convenience of banking customers, cannot be reconciled, in my judgment, With the Board's denial of an earlier application by Marine i1idland C°rPoration to acquire all of the voting shares of the Security National Bank of Long Island. 48 Federal Reserve Bulletin 1597 (1962). In that case, now inexplicably ignored by the majority, the Board, in discussing the "convenience and needs" factor, stated: -6H • . Applicant [Marine Midland Corporation] goes to great length in describing the improved and additional services Security would be able to offer as a subsidiary, but gives very little specific information on the area's need for such services. ... [T]here is little in the application to indicate that banking services of the types listed are inadequate or unsatisfactory in Security's service [T]here is little, if any, real evidence that areas. • • the public is inconvenienced because Security does not now do what it might as a subsidiary of Applicant. ... [and] ,the Board cannot assume that what is not being done needs to be done or is material to the public's convenience." Id. at 1602. Similarly, if there is a scintilla of evidence in the record of this ease that the public served by the proponent banks is inconvenienced by lack of banking services, the majority fails to point it out; actually, there is none. Yet, the majority is now unaccountably 14illing to "assume that what is not being done needs to be done . • • [and] is material to the public's convenience." In considering the effect on competition of the proposed acquis on of Security National Bank by Marine Midland Corporation, the Board stated: H .. Applicant [Marine Midland Corporation] presently controls 11 banks in New York State which operate 181 banking of located in each of the State's nine banking districts and had, at the end of 1961, aggregate deposits of $2.54 billion. Applicant advertises its size and State-wide coverage and places much weight on this unique feature of its operations. According to Applicant, it can provide better services for its customers throughout the State of New York than can its competitors through regular correspondent relationships. Acquisition of Security would further enhance Applicant's Position in the New York State banking structure. . • • The Proposed acquisition would also result in a substantial addition to Applicant's over-all size; it would acquire 33 banking offices (an increase of 18.2 per cent in its banking Offices) and $221.5 million deposits (an increase of 8.7 per cent). The result of this acquisition, which in and of itself -7- is not insignificant, would give Applicant hiore complete State-wide coverage and banks headquartered in all nine of the State's banking districts. .. ." ... As to the effect of the proposed transaction upon the size and extent of Applicant's holding company system as it relates to adequate and sound banking, the public interest, and preservation of competition in the field of banking, the concentration of banking resources and activities which would result from the proposed acquisition would be inimical to the preservation of banking competition and inconsistent with the the public interest. This being the case, it is the view of 1606-07. at Id. denied." be should n Board that the applicatio Marine Midland Corporation has the most geographically extensive banking system in New York State and ranks seventh, behind six New York City headquartered banks, in total banking resources. 4esently, as was true at the time of its application to acquire Security National Bank, Marine Midland Corporation has 11 banking subsidiaries, but these subsidiaries now operate 201 banking offices, subnot 181 as was then the case; the aggregate deposits of these sidiaries is now $3.1 billion, not $2.54 billion as was then the case; to and, consummation of the present transaction will add $292 million the total deposits of the holding company group, not $222 million as then the case. If the Board was on sound ground in refusing to permit the n 4ddition of Security National Bank to the Marine Midland Corporatio OUp - I think it was, and the majority offers no reason as to why it as not - then, a fortiori, the addition of Grace to that group should be prohibited. I would deny the application. August 10, 1965.