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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstern was held in Washington on Thursday, August 5, 1943, at 11:00

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on August 3, 1943, were approved unanimously.
Telegram dated August 4, 1943, to Mr. Paddock, President of

the

Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, reading as follows:
"In accordance with request 'contained in your letter, August 2, Board approves payment of salary to Ansgar
R. Berge, Assistant Counsel, at the rate of $5,000 per
annum for the period ending April 30, 1944."
Approved unanimously.
Letters dated August 4, 1943, to the "Riverside Trust Company",

Hal'tford, Connecticut, "The Miners & Merchants Bank", Smithfield, Ohio,
the "Indiana Lawrence Bank and Trust Company", North Manchester, Indiana,
allcl "The Meda
1°ws:




ille State Bank", Medaryville, Indiana, reading as fol-

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"The Board is glad to learn that you have completed
all arrangements for the admission of your bank to the
Federal Reserve System and takes pleasure in transmitting
herewith a formal certificate of your membership.
. "It will be appreciated if you will acknowledge receipt of this certificate."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Dillard, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
kak of Chicago, reading as follows:
"Re telegram August 3, revised NHA General Order
No. 60-4A merely has the effect of incorporating in the
Order a ruling of which you were advised in the Board's
letter of April 14, 1943, S-635. Your wire was first
information we had received that Order had been revised.
Through some error at NHA office no notice was given to
us. lice are securing the usual number of copies for transmlssion to the Federal Reserve Banks."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hale, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
c)f San Francisco, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of July 27, 1943, enclosing a copy of a letter dated June 23 from the Security-First National Bank of Los Angeles to Mr. Newman
at the Los Angeles Branch of your Bank. Briefly, the
question presented is whether a Registrant may make a
90-day single-payment loan for the purpose of enabling
the borrower to meet the first quarterly curtail required
under section 7(c)(2) of Regulation W on an outstanding
90-day single-payment loan held by the same or some other
Registrant.
"As you know, section 7(c) provides that a singlepayment loan 'may not be renewed or extended except as'
provided in that section, the provisions of which are
exclusive. Section 7(c)(2) requires an actual reduction
in or partial retirement of the borrower's indebtedness;




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"but, the arrangement contemplated by the above question,
as a matter of substance, does not meet such requirement
since it would extend to the borrower an additional 90
days merely by changing the manner of recording the indebtedness, the amount of which would remain the same.
In addition, such an arrangement should not be countenanced
considering the provisions of section 11(a).
"The foregoing is applicable regardless of whether
the second single-payment loan would be made by the Registrant who made the first single-payment loan or by another
Registrant, in view of section 7(f)."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Peyton, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis, reading as follows:
"This is in reply to your letter of July 28 questioning the advisability of extending the deposit survey according to plans outlined in our letter of July 12.
"The two tests you propose are wholly reasonable
?nes. But in the opinion of our people, and we believe
in the opinion of those in the Federal Reserve System
who have considered the matter, the answer to both questions would be 'yes.' The question who owns the greatly
expanded volume of bank deposits is of the utmost importance in making plans for financing the war, for purposes
Of directing the anti-inflation campaign, and for purposes of making fiscal and economic plans for the postwar
Period. The first survey revealed an unexpectedly large
volume of business deposits. However, because this surveY was mostly confined to larger banks, there were some
doubts as to whether the results secured were wholly dependable. Small banks are not unimportant. Demand dePosits of individuals and businesses in banks covered by
the special 'small bank' survey planned for July 31 are
30 per cent of such deposits at all banks, and the nature
of these deposits certainly must be different from that
of the deposits in large banks. We can no more afford
to leave these smaller 'country' banks out of our fact
finding than we can afford to leave them out of our general policy programs.




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"The reasons for engaging in this survey should not
be considered on any such narrow grounds as 'cooperating
with the Statistical Department of the Board.' This project was reviewed originally by the Presidents' Conference
Committee on Research and received its hearty approval.
It was endorsed by the Trustees of the Research Fund of
the Association of Reserve City Bankers. One of the Reserve Banks had made ambitious plans for such a survey
even before it was adopted as a System-wide program.
The broad outlines of the project as well as the technical details were worked out by a committee consisting
?f Reserve Bank and Board representatives. It is our
iMpression that most of the Reserve Banks are pushing
this project strongly, and in numerous cases we already
know of enthusiastic support by the reporting commercial
banks. Your letter is all the more puzzling in view of
the fact that your own research department has advanced
Plans for adding to this survey of deposits a survey of
debits which would place on banks a substantial added
burden beyond that which is now contemplated.
wVie are sympathetic with the unfortunate position
in which many banks find themselves short of personnel
and we agree thoroughly that no statistical project should
)e undertaken if there are any unresolved doubts about
its value. It is our opinion, however, that all things
considered, the advantages of the present project clearly
outweigh the costs. Furthermore, the survey is purely
li?luntary and no bank which has serious objections or difficulties in reporting is obliged to participate.
"I hope that this will convince you of the strong
case for the project. The date of the survey has already
passed and not only are we anxious to get the data as
Promptly as is reasonably possible, but the experience
.
171th the previous survey indicated that banks find reporting much easier if they can be notified in advance, or
at least very soon after the reporting date."

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Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated July 31, 1943, from Mr. Goldenweiser, Dil'ectOr of the Division of Research and Statistics, recommending (1)
that
Messrs Triffin and Hammond of the Board's staff be authorized




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make a two-month trip to Paraguay as members of a financial mis-

sioa, which is going to that country in response to a request from
the
Paraguay.an

government transmitted through our State Department

anci which will consist of representatives of the Board of Governors
f the Federal
Reserve System, the Farm Credit Administration, the
lkm

Owners Loan Corporation, and the Office of Price Administration,

(2) that Messrs. Triffin and Hammond also be authorized during the
t11.13 to make brief visits of a few days each to Colombia, Argentina,
and Uruguay,
and (3) that they be allowed a per diem in lieu of sub-

sistence of N. while they are on the trip.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum of this date from Mr. Pollard, Assistant Chief of

the Division of Examinations, recommending that, instead of being allowed an increased per diem of t7, as approved by the Board on July

27, lal/43,
)

only during the period in which they are engaged in the

elklirent examination
of Transamerica Corporation and its affiliates,

the

xaminers and assistant examiners engaged in the examination be

&11-owpri
-- a per diem of ,7 beginning July 16, 1943, and continuing until

:the
OX

sPecial assignment is concluded and they return to their headquarters

arrive in the city of their next assignment.




Approved unanimously.

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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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Secretary.

PProved:




Chairman.