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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Tuesday, August 5, 1941, at 12:05
11.

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secret.E.ry
Mr. Szymczak made further reference to the proposed appointment of A. J. Mulroney as Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago in charge of examinations and stated that, in accordance
with informal discussions between himself and President Young, the
latter had tendered the position to Mr. Mulroney on the basis of sal141.7 at the rate of $13,000 per annum and that Mr. Mulroney had said
that he would consider the matter and advise Mr. Young in the course
Of the next few days of his decision.

Mr. Szymczak said that he would

be in Chicago on Thursdgy of this week when it was expected that Mr.
Mulroney would also be there, that undoubtedly the question of the
aPPointment of

Mr.

Mulroney would be discussed, that he believed

that Mr. Mulroney had learned of the action of the directors of the
Pederal Reserve Bank in fixing a salary for him at the rate of not
to exceed $15,000 per annum, and that, therefore, the members of the
11°.ard should determine whether they would adhere to the position taken




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in informal discussions that Mr. Mulronayts salary should be at the
rate of $13,000 per annum.
In this connection, Mr. McKee called attention to the fact
that the salary of the Chief National Bank Examiner in the seventh
Federal Reserve District is 415,000 per annum and stated that Mr.
Itkironey had been offered that position by the Comptroller of the
Currency and, therefore, might hesitate to accept the position at
the Federal Reserve
Bank at a lower salary.
Chairman Eccles stated that, in accordance with the action
taken at the meeting on July 30, 1941, he had attempted to get
Chairman Caldwell
of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City on the
telephone but found that
he had left for a two weeks' vacation so
that the question of the appointme
nt of a First Vice President at
the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City would have to be deferred
114ti1 Mr. Caldwell's return and that, inasmuch as the selection
of
4 Vice President in charge of examinations at Chicago should be made
soon as possible, action on that appointment should be taken without waiting for a solution of the Kansas City situation
.
Mr. McKee raised a question as to the desirability of discussing the matter with Mr. Mulroney before he and Mr. Szymczak go
to Chicago, and the latter stated that he would
prefer to discuss it
with
President Young and Mr. Mulroney in Chicago with the understandthat the Board approves a salary of 413,000 per annum for Mr.




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Mulroney if fixed by the directors at that rate, but would not be
Willing to approve for him a salary in excess of that amount.
There was unanimous agreement that
the matter should be handled as suggested
by Mr. Szymczak and that, in the event Mr.
Mulroney did not reach a prompt decision
or was unwilling to accept the appointment, Mr. Szymczak should say to President Young that the Board was of the
opinlon that some other suitable person
should be selected with the least possible delay.
Mr. Szymczak then referred to the discussion with President
NYton of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis at the meeting of
the Board on
July 31, 1941, of a plan for the payment of bonuses to
e mployees of the Federal Reserve Bank if and when it seemed desireble to do so, and to the advice given to Mr. Peyton at that time
that the Board would give further considerati
on to the proposal and
he would be advised of any conclusions reached.
Mr. Draper suggested that the Board might wish to consider
the

matter as an experiment rather than as a precedent which the

Other Federal Reserve Banks might wish, or might be expected, to

Mr. Szymczak read from an informal memorandum prepared in

the Division of Bank Operations reasons which might be advanced for
44d against a bonus payment plan.
During the course of the discussion Messrs. Eccles and Ransom
ItIlised questions as to the advisability of the plan from the standpoint




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of its relation to the efforts of the Administration to combat price
inflation as well as from the standpoint of the example that it might
set) and they expressed the opinion that before a decision was reached
the matter should be given careful consideration from all of these
angles.
Messrs. 7icKee and Draper indicated that they would be inclined to favor the plan as an experiment with the understanding
that it would not necessarily be a precedent to be followed by other
Federal Reserve Banks.
Chairman Eccles stated that he would suggest that Mr. Peyton
be advised that the members of the Board were divided in their opin1°11 cn the mntter, that they felt that the idea was one that should
be given considerable further study, that the Presidents of the other
Federal Reserve Banks should have an opportunity to express their
hews from a System standpoint, and that in the circumstances the
Board

would like to have the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis de-

action on the plan until consideration could be given to it by.
the Presidents? Conference.
Chairman Eccles? suggestion
agreed
was
to unanimously.
Chairman Eccles then presented a letter addressed to him under
dateP
0-, July 30, 1941, by the President of the United States and readas follows:
"In order to assure effective coordination of our
economic defense efforts, I have today established an




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"Economic Defense Board under the Chairmanship of Vice
President Wallace. A copy of the Order establishing the
Board is attached.
"It is contemplated that the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System will have many active relationships with the Board in developing and carrying out
economic defense plans. I have, therefore, under the
terms of the Order, directed that the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System designate a responsible
officer to represent it in its continuing relationships
With this new agency.
"I shall be grateful for the full assistance and
cooperation of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System in facilitating the work to be undertaken by the Board."
Chairman Eccles stated that, if agreeable to
the Board, he would defer definite action on the matter and in the meantime would handle
atV' questions that might arise.
This suggestion was approved
unanimously.
The meeting then recessed and reconvened at 2:30 p.m. with

the same attendance as at the morning session except that Chairman
cles was not present and Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary, was in
attendance.
Mr. Szymczak referred to a letter dated August 1, 1941, from
Chedrman Coffey of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis acknowledging receipt of the Board's letter of July 29, 1941, with respect

to

maximum salaries for the positions of President and First Vice

Pr*esident at the Federal Reserve Banks, and stating that he could
11°t feel happy over the maximum salaries fixed for these officers




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at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and that, while
he did
not know all the reasons lying back of the Board's decision, it
looked to him like a step backward.

Mr. Szymczak stated that Mr.

Morrill had acknowledged Mr. Coffey's letter and that the Board
should decide whether it wished to take any further action with
respect to it.
There was unanimous agreement
that the letter did not call for a
further reply and therefore should
be filed without further action.
Mr. Szymczak then called attention to the letter addressed
to Mr. McCabe, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
Under date of July 25, 1941, by Chairman Caldwell of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Kansas City with respect to the decision of the directors of the Kansas
City Bank not to participate in the payment
°f the expenses involved in the study being made by Mr. Balderston
and his associates in connection with the development of a career
'istem for the officers and employees of the Federal Reserve Banks
and the Board of Governors and to Mr. McCabe's reply under date of
JIllY 30, 1941.

Mr. Szymczak inquired whether the members of the

8°ard felt that there was any reason for action by the Board in conwith the decision of the St. Louis and Kansas Cit. Reserve
Batiks not to participate in the payment of the cost of the study.




There was unanimous agreement that,
inasmuch as the study was being made

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Chairmen of the Federal Reserve Banks
and was being carried on on the basis
of participation in the expense by ten
of the Federal Reserve Banks, the matter was not one that called for action
by the Board at this time.
Mr. McKee stated that, in accordance with the request con-

ta.ined in
the Board's letter of July 25, 1941, the Federal Reserve
Bank of Chicago had advised the First National Bank of Arcola,
Illinois, that the Board would be glad to give further consideration to the bank's application for trust powers after a review of
the report of the next examination of the bank and of information
tO be
submitted by the bank to the examiners as requested in the
letter, and that, under date of July 29, 1941, Samuel B. Hicks, one
of the directors of the national bank who owns controlling interest
in the institution, addressed a letter to the Federal Reserve Bank
el Pressing dissatisfaction with the Board's decision and stating
that

unless immediate action on the application were taken he would

take steps to obtain such action.

Mr. McKee also said that Mr.

1-erck3, Assistant Vice President of the Chicago Bank, replied to
Mr- Hicks' letter on July 31 stating that his letter had been transI4itted to the Board of Governors and that any information received
*om the Board in connection with the application would be transraitted to Mr. Hicks.

He added that, in these circumstances, he was

ef the opinion that no further action by the Board was called for




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pending receipt of the next report of examination.
The other members of the Board concurred
in Mr. McKee's opinion.
In connection with the above matter, Mr. Szymczak stated
that he received a telephone call today from Congressman James M.
8arries of Illinois inquiring as to the status of the application of
the First National Bank of Arcola for trust powers and that he stated
to Mr. Barnes that he was not familiar with the case but would look
into
There was agreement with Mr. Szymczakts
suggestion that he advise Mr. Barnes that
the Board had deferred action on the application pending receipt of the next report
of examination of the bank for the purpose
of determining whether information developed during the examination would justify
approval of the application.
Mr. Ransom then referred to the application of the First
National Bank of North Bergen, New Jersey, for permission to exercise trust powers and to a memorandum addressed to the Board under
date of August 1 by Mr. Cagle, Assistant Chief of the Division of
E3caminations, in which it was recommended (1) that some member of
the

Board's staff be authorized to advise Mr. Gidney, Vice President

of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, by telephone that when, as,
4nd if the national bank had taken steps to establish a trust de.13rtment manned by an experienced and qualified trust officer, the
/3°ard would grant the trust powers applied for, provided that these




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steps were taken with reasonable promptness and that,
of course, no
further adverse facts came to light, and (2) that Mr. Gidney be requested to advise the bank accordingly.
In the discussion which ensued, Messrs.
Ransom and McKee indicated that they favored
approval of the above recommendatiois and
Mr. Ransual moved that they be approvec: and
that Mr. Cagle be authorized to communicate
with Mr. Gidney as suggested in the recommendations.
Mr. Ransom's motion was put by the chair
and carried unanimously.
Mr. Morrill stated that recently Commander Padgett of the Navy
DePartment called on him and stated that he had been assigned the task
ef setting up a draft of a plan for censorship of cable and radio
mess
ages, that it was anticipated that the Federal Reserve System might
be asked to participate in the operation of the plan, that the matter had also been discussed with Mr. Bell, Under Secretary of the
Tr'easurY, who had suggested that Commander Padgett prepare a memorandUm regarding the matter which had been done, and that copies of the
Me morandum had been submitted to the Treasury and to us with the
tulderstanding that the matter would be studied for the purpose of
Beeing what part the Treasury and the Federal Reserve System should
hal78 in it.

Commander Padgett also stated, Mr. Morrill said, that

the Navy
Department was under instructions to prepare for censorof cable, wireless, and radio messages with the understanding
th4t the War Department would handle censorship of the mails.




Mr.

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Morrill added that he had talked to Mr. Bell regarding the matter
Who advised that it would be studied by members of the staff of the
Treasury and suggested that it be studied also by members of our
staff.

Mr. Morrill suggested that it would be desirable if the

subject were assigned to one of the members of the Board and stated
that he had said to Commander Padgett that the Board would keep in
Close touch with Mr. Bell regarding the matter.
It was agreed unanimously that Mr.
Draper should be designated for this
purpose and he was authorized to call
on such available members of the staff
as may be necessary to assist him in
the work.
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereillter referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Pederal Reserve System held on August 1, 1941, were approved unaniMOUSy.
Memoranda dated July 30, 1941, from Mr. Paulger, Chief of
the Division of Examinations, recommending that the salary of Joseph
J. Connell, Federal Reserve Examiner, be increased from the rate of
13)800 to $4,000 per annum, and that the salary of Louis W. ?Adak,
Aesistant Federal Reserve Examiner, be increased from the rate of
111)620 to $1,900 per annum, both effective as of August 16, 1941.




Approved unanimously.

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-11Bond in the amount of 40,000 executed under date of July

26) 1941, by Thomas Arthur Segelhurst as Alternate Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the board of directors of the "Bank of White
Sulphur Springs", White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia, stating
that, subject to conditions of membership numbered 1 to 3 contained in the Board's Regulation H, the Board approves the bank's
aPPlication for membership in the Federal Reserve System and for

the appropriate amount of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of
Richmond.
Approved unanimously together
with a letter to Mr. Leach, President
of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System approves the application of the 'Bank of White Sulphur
Springs', White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia, for membership in the Federal Reserve System, subject to the
conditions prescribed in the enclosed letter which you
are requested to forward to the Board of Directors of
the institution. Two copies of such letter are also enclosed, one of which is for your files and the other of
Which you are requested to forward to the Commissioner
of Banking for the State of West Virginia for his information.
"The application was accompanied by a copy of the
bank's original certificate of incorporation certified
by the clerk of the County Court of Greenbrier County,
West Virginia, on December 19, 1936, and your counsel
stated in his memorandum of July 16, 1941, that 'apparently' there had been no amendments. In acting upon
the application, it has been assumed that an appropriate




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"investigation was made of this matter, but the material
accompanying the application did not contain such assurances as are desired by the Board that true and complete
copies of all pertinent documents as shown by the records of the appropriate State official were submitted,
and further advice will be appreciated. Also, the application was not accompanied by copies of the bank's
certificate of authority to commence business and the
form of capital debenture sold by the bank to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, and it will be appreciated if you will furnish them in order to complete the
Board's records."
Letter to Mr. Young, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago, reading as follows:
"This refers to the telegram dated July 28, 1941,
addressed by Mr. Dunn to Mr. Wyatt and raising the question how mutual savings banks should be classified for
the purpose of electing directors of your bank.
"Section 4 of the Federal Reserve Act, with reference to the classification of member banks for the purpose of electing Class A and Class B directors, provides
that each group shall consist 'as nearly as may be of
banks of similar capitalization', and under this requirement it has been the practice to classify them
according to the amount of their capital and surplus.
"A guaranty fund required by law to be provided or
accumulated for the protection of the depositors of a
mutual savings bank may be regarded as surplus of such
bank for the purpose in question. Although a mutual
savings bank has no capital stock, it is also believed
that its capital notes and debentures held by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation may properly be considered as part of the capital of such an institution
for this purpose, in view of the provisions of the
first paragraph of section 9 of the Federal Reserve
Act. On the other hand, on account of the requirement
of the law as to 'similar capitalization' of banks in
the same group and the practice with respect to other
member banks, it is felt that undivided profits, reserves and other such items should not be included.
To do so would require a change in previously existing
practice and, it is believed, would present difficult
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"In the circumstances, it is the view of the Board that
a mutual savings bank should be classified for the purpose
in question according to the amount of its surplus or guaranty fund and its capital notes or debentures, if any, purchased by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.

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