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A, meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYStein WES held in Washington on Wednesday, August 3, 1938, at 9:30

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Nh.. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Paulger, Chief of the Division of
Examinations
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Leonard, Assistant Chief of the
Division of Examinations
Reference was made to a memorandum dated July 19, 1938, from
14r* WYatt suggesting that a conference of counsel of all Federal reserve banks be held in Washington at some convenient date during the
rlic91th Of September or October.

The memorandum stated that the last

c°4terence of counsel was held in Slily 1936 and that there were several
legel Problems affecting the entire Federal Reserve System which it
s felt could
be discussed profitably at a conference this year.
WYett

Mr.

emPlified the statement contained in his memorandum by the

l'irther statement that while it was not urgent that the conference
be Called it was felt that a conference at the time suggested would
be be
neficial and that, if a conference is not held this fall, the
‘111e.1 Press of matters during the winter might make it impractical to




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a conference until after the adjournment of the next session of

C
ongress.
It was agreed unanimously that inasmuch as there was no special occasion
for calling such a conference at this
time the matter should be laid on the
table with the understanding that it
would be given further consideration
whenever requested by a member of the
Board or by Counsel.
At this point Mr. Cagle, Assistant Chief of the Division of

Examinations, joined the meeting.
There was presented a draft of letter to Mr. Diggs, Acting
Comptroller of the Currency, in reply to a letter received from Deputy
Ccl:Vtrcller Oppegard under date of Stine 22, 1938, with respect to the
ab801'Pti3n of exchange charges by the National Bank of Commerce of
Lille01n, Nebraska.

The draft of letter was considered in the light

Of
'446

t

circumstances which resulted in the amendment of Regulation Q

111'r,..,

de that any payment to or for the account of any depositor as

ecrre%
vensation for the use of funds constituting a deposit shall be consiet"ed interest, and it was agreed that it was desirable that before
l'e4ch1

ng a decision in this case the Board be in possession of addi-

ti°11a1 facts.
Certain changes were made in the
letter after which it was approved unanimously in the following form:
"This refers to Mr. Oppegard's letter of Tune 22,
19
.L 38 with inclosures, setting forth in considerable de'
41-1 information with regard to the absorption of exchange




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"charges by the National Banl-, of Commerce of Lincoln,
Nebraska. It is apparent on the basis of the information
furnished that it is the practice of this bank to absorb
in substantial amounts out-of-pocket charges which it has
lflcurred in the collection of checks for its customers, and
it is noted that the examiner is of the opinion that this
practice is engaged in as a means of soliciting the business of country banks.
"The Board feels that before undertaking to formulate
anY conclusion with respect to whether this practice constitutes a violation of the law prohibiting the payment of
interest on demand deposits, it should have before it comPiste information with respect to all aspects of the situation.
Although the information which has been furnished
is detailed, it does not cover fully certain points which
the Board would
like to have developed for consideration.
"Therefore, it will be of material assistance to the
Board in reaching a conclusion in this matter if you will
Obtain and furnish the Board with the following additional
i
nformation:
(1) A statement by the National Bank of Commerce of its practices and policies in absorbing
exchange charges for depositors Including a statement of the reasons for the absorption of such
charges and whether they are absorbed as compensation for or in consideration of the use of
funds on deposit.
(2) Copies of any documents or letters reflecting or indicating any agreements or understandings, express or implied, between the bank
and its demand depositors covering the absorption
of exchange charges, together with any other
information showing or tending to Show the reasons
for the absorption of such charges and whether
they are absorbed as compensation for or in consideration of the use of funds on deposit.
(3) Whether exchange charges are absorbed
by the National Bank of Commerce only where both
the persons forwarding or delivering the checks
to the bank for collection and the banks on which
the checks are drawn maintain deposits in the
national bank or whether exchange charges are
also absorbed when the forwarders are, but the
drawee banks are not, depositors in the national
bank or when the drawee banks are, but the forwarders are not, depositors in the national
bank.




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"If feasible to obtain it, it would also be helpful
to have specific information as to the average daily demand
deposits for the year ending .Tune 30, 1938, or some similar
Period, of each of eight or ten depositors for whom the
largest amounts of exchange charges were absorbed by the
bank during the period, stating the amounts absorbed and
what percentage such amounts were of average daily demand
deposits of each such depositor, and indicating whether
each each depositor is a bank or what the nature of its
business is.
"While not essential, in order that the Board may have
full knowledge of the possible violations of the law or the
regulation which may be involved at this bank, it would
also be desirable to have information as to whether or not
substantially the same practice is followed in absorbing
exchange charges on time and savings deposits as is followed
in connection with demand deposits, and if so, whether or
not the bank pays the maximum rate of interest prescribed
bY the Board in its supplement to Regulation c on time and
Savings deposits in addition to the absorption of exchange
charges."
Reference was then made to a memorandum dated May 23, 1938,
the Division of Examinations recommending, for the reasons stated
thel
'
ein, that, if the Board and its counsel were of the opinion that
15. PrePar interpretation of Section 8 of the Clayton Act would permit,
the 8°ard amend Regulation L, Interlocking Bank Directorates Under
the Clayton Act, to permit a director, officer, or employee of a membel
'bank who was lawfully serving as such end also as a director,
officer, or employee of one or more other banks on August 23, 1935
(4to of approval of the Banking Act of 1935) to continue to serve
slleh member bank
and not more than one of the other banks after Feb11 1939, the date fixed in Section 8 of the Clayton Act upon

wbieb the
exemption of such relationships now contained in the Act




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will expire,,

The memorandtur also stated that during March 1938 let-

ters were received from the
Federal Reserve Banks of New York and
Chicego suggesting the consideration of an amendment of the regulation.
In this
connection it was stated that some of the members of the
oard had
received requests from interested bankers that the Board
'
4mend the regulation.

There was attached to the file a memorandum

dated May 26, 1938, from Mr. Wyatt expressing the
opinion that the
BolIrd had legal authority to adopt the proposed amendment end that
the question
before the Board tas whether or not it should do so as
a matter
of policy.
During a discussion of the reasons stated in the memorandum
fli at the Division
of Examinations for the proposed amendment it was
Pointed out that
the present law had been in effect since August 27,
1935) that individuals
affected thereby had had ample opportunity to
brillg their relationships into conformity with the provisions of the
bY February 1, 1939, or to petition Congress for an amendment to
the law, that the situation has not changed since the enactment of
the
'
- 41ng Act of 1935, and that, therefore, there did not seem to
be
-d-LY reason why the Board should permit the continuation of relation111158 which Congress had indicated should be terminated not later than
eblAlary 1, 1939.




At the conclusion of the discussion,
Mr. Davis moved that the Board address a
letter to all Federal reserve banks stating

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-6that the Board sees no reason for extending the time fixed by Congress for the
termination of the interlocking directorates referred to and requesting that the
Federal reserve banks advise interested
parties in their respective districts
accordingly.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Ransom presented for consideration the following draft of

latter to Mr.
Robertson Griswold, President of the Trust Division of
the
American Bankers Association:
"This refers further to your letter to Governor
1117asom of June 28, 1938, and to the subsequent discussion
in Governor Ransom's office during which it was suggested
that it might be desirable for the Board to make an exPlanatory statement with reference to the ruling printed
on page 440 of the Federal Reserve Bulletin for June
1938 to the effect that, under the provisions of section
6(1)) of the Board's Regulation F, the directors or the
ePPropriate committee of a national bank must approve
the acceptance of new trusts by the bank prior to their
acceptance rather than subsequent thereto. You indicated
that same banks feel that it may be difficult for them
to oPerate
under such a requirement.
"Section 6(b) of the Board's Regulation F reads in
Part as follows:
* * * The acceptance of all trusts shall
be approved by the board of directors or a committee appointed by such board, and the closing
out or relinquishment of all trusts shall be approved or ratified by the board of directors or
a committee appointed by such board; and such
committee or committees shall be composed of
capable and experienced officers or directors
of the bank. Any such approval or ratification
she].) be recorded in the minutes of the board
of directors or of such committee as the case
may be.'
"It may be noted in passing that this provision of
the
regulation conforms to the principle contained in the




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"Statement of Principles of Trust Institutions' approved
by the American Bankers Association in 1933 to the effect
that the responsibility for the investment of trust funds
should not be reposed in an individual officer or employee,
but all investments should be made, retained, or sold only
upon the authority of a committee composed of capable and
experienced officers or directors of the institution. The
question whether or not a particular trust should be accepted by a bank is a matter of such importance that the
Board feels that this principle of collective judgment should
be ePplied in such a case as well as in the case of investment of trust funds. If such collective judgment should
not be exercised until after a new trust has been accepted,
it might be embarrassing and in some instances impractical
for the bank to relinquish the trust. It was on the basis
Of these considerations, therefore, that the above quoted
Provision was incorporated in the Board's regulation.
"As a matter of practical operation, attention is
called to the fact that the board of directors of a bank,
if it so desires, may designate a special committee for
the Purpose of passing on the acceptance of new trusts
and it is not necessary that such committee be composed
Of directors
of the bank. In fact, under the regulation,
the committee may be composed exclusively of capable and
experienced
officers.
"FUrther, the Board considers it to be consistent with
the
Provisions of the regulation for a new trust to be accepted by a bank upon written approval of a majority of
the members of the appropriate committee without a meeting
of the
committee, provided such action is promptly reported
to the committee and the report incorporated in its minutes.
It is understood, of course, that at the time the acceptance
i8 aPproved in writing all of the available members of
the committee would be given an opportunity to pass on the
acceptance. The Board's position in this matter is similar
to that taken in a ruling published on page 391 of the
Federal Reserve Bulletin for May 1937 with reference to
actions of the trust investment committee provided for
in subsection (c) of section 6.
"It should also be noted that the Board heretofore
ruled that alternates might be appointed for members of the
trust investment committee provided for in subsection (c)
of section 6 of Regulation F and when the regulation was
amended effective December 31, 1937, a footnote containing
the following statement was included: '*** alternates
appointed by the board of directors may serve in place of




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'"regular members of the committee who are unable to serve
on account of vacations, illness, or other good and sufficient reasons if the minutes of the committee show the
reason for the service of such alternate in place of the
regular member'. The Board has not heretofore had occasion
to make a similar ruling in connection with the committee
Provided for in subsection (b) of section 6, but it is of
the opinion that the appointment of alternates may properly
be made for that committee under the circumstances described
in the language just quoted.
"In view of the latitude contained in the regulation
and the Board's rulings, it would seem that individual banks
should be able, as a practical matter, to apply the requirements of the regulation to the circumstances of their particular cases. The Board has requested me to advise you
that if you feel that the above statement will accomplish
the Purpose you have in mind it will be glad to publish a
statement to this effect in an early issue of the Federal
Reserve Bulletin."
Upon motion by Mr. Ransom the letter
was approved unanimously.
Mr. Morrill related for the information of the members of the
4/ard the recent developments (as set forth in memoranda which he had
PrePared under date of July 22 and August 1, 1938) relating to the
48continuance of the Havana Agency of the Federal Reserve Bank of
At4nte which resulted in the receipt by Chairman Eccles of the fol1"ing letter from Under Secretary of State Sumner Welles under date
August 2, 1938:
"I enclose a copy of a letter which I wrote on July
30 l orz
to Mr. Chester Morrill with regard to the con'
sideration that the Board has been giving to the closing
Of the Habana
agency of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. This letter was delivered yesterday to Mr. Morrill
lanta.y Mr- Duggan of this Department.
"As a result of the considerations set forth by Mr.
Morrill on that occasion, I desire to state my deep apPreciation of the generous attitude that the Board has




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"taken many times in the past by continuing the Habana
agency of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. Although
I had been aware that the maintenance of the agency was
an expense to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, I admit
to having been surprised to learn the extent of that cost
and likewise the unimportant role which the Bank has been
Playing in facilitating commercial interchange.
"Nevertheless, from this Department's point of view,
I continue to believe that it would be desirable that
the agency be continued until such time as the Cuban Government has made the proposed changes in its financial
structure which were elaborated by officials of the Cuban
Government in consultation with officers of this Government. It may be that as a result of Cuban action there
Will be even less of a role for the agency to perform
than at present; but the contrary might be true, in which
case it would be far easier for the United States to lend
its effective cooperation if the agency were still to be
operating.
"Moreover, although it is unquestionably true that
conditions in Cuba today are more stable than in recent
Years, public opinion in Cuba is highly sensitive to action affecting Cuba taken by this Government. There is a
Possibility that the termination of the agency at the present moment might give rise to unfortunate speculation and
misunderstanding.
"I realize, of course, that the Board cannot be expected to continue indefinitely the agency if it does not
Perform a more vital and useful function than at present.
It seems probable
that the Cuban Congress at its next
!easion will act upon the financial measures designed to
Improve the banking and currency structure, and I strongly
Ii
that the Board will reconsider its decision to close
he agency and will permit it to continue until the Congress
4as acted. If no action has been taken by the Congress by
December 31, 1939, I would agree that the desirability of
continuing the agency in anticipation of action by the
Congress at a later date would be very questionable."
Mr. Morrill stated that, as set forth in his memorandum of
St 1, he
had advised Mr. Duggan, Chief of the Division of American
4es of the State Department, when the latter called OD August 1
to di,
-cuss the matter, that the total revenues for the Havana Agency




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for the six
months period ending June 30, 1938, had amounted to only
4)929 as against expenses of $16,884, that during the period since
jalillerY 1, 1938, transactions had been affected for American banks in
enlY two instances, that the amounts of all transactions were small,
8-nd that during many
weeks there had been no transactions of any
kind.
The members of the Board concurred in the opinion that in view
r the circumstances related it was clear that the Agency was not
l'endePing any substantial service and that, since the request of the
State DePartment did not present a sufficient reason for the continilatio

n of the Agency at a considerable expense to the Federal Reserve

Systems the Agency should be discontinued.
Thereupon Mr. Draper moved the adoption of the following resolution:

"WHEREAS the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta has maintained and operated an agency in Havana, Cuba, for a number
°f years past and is now operating the said agency pursuant to a resolution of the Federal Reserve Board (now
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System)
adopted January 27, 1927, as modified by subsequent action
of the said Board, and under the terms of an agreement
between the Federal Reserve Bank Of Atlanta and the other
eleven Federal Reserve banks which became effective on
rune 1, 1935; and
"WHEREAS the Board ef Governors of the Federal Reserve SYstem, in the light of the volume of business,
°Perating expenses, and other factors involved in the maintenance of such agency, has determined that the necessity
desirability for the continuance of the agency no longer
exists; and
'WHEREAS the board of directors of the Federal Reserve
of Atlanta adopted resolutions under dates of June 8,




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"1934, February 14, 1936, and September 11, 1936, requesting that the bank be authorized to discontinue the
operation of the agency at Havana, Cuba; and
"WHEREAS it is the opinion of the Board of Governors
that the operation of such agency should be discontinued
and that the request of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta should be granted;
"NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
"(1) That the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta be and
said bank hereby is authorized and directed to discontinue
the maintenance and operation of the said agency at Havana,
Cuba, as soon as practicable and in no event later than
the close of business December 31, 1938, except to the extent necessary to wind up and liquidate any business or
commitments theretofore acquired or entered into;
"(2) Upon the discontinuance of the operation of the
said agency pursuant to the terms of this resolution, the
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta shall no longer be authorized to exercise through the said agency any of the powers
which it has heretofore been authorized to exercise by
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, except that it shall have and retain all such powers as may
be necessary and appropriate to wind up and liquidate the
business and affairs of the said agency as provided in the
Preceding paragraph of this resolution;
"(3) That the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta is
directed to proceed diligently with the liquidation and
winding up of the outstanding business and commitments of
the said agency
to the end that the affairs of the said
agancY may be finally concluded at the earliest practicable
date."




Carried unanimously, with the understanding that a copy of the resolution
would be sent to the State Department with
a letter stating the Board's reasons
therefor and that after reviewing all of
the circumstances the Board had concluded
that the Agency should be discontinued.
It was also understood that the letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
transmitting a copy of the resolution
should state that, if the bank feels that
it is necessary to make a public statement
regarding the discontinuance of the Agency,
it is desired that the statement be submitted to the Board before it is released.

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-12Messrs. Draper and Thurston left the meeting at this point.
Mr. Eccles stated that following the action taken at the meet-

ing of the Board on Slily 20, 1938, he had sent the following letter
to *. Crowley, Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
exid a similar letter to Mr. Diggs, Acting Comptroller of the Currency,
"eePt that the last two paragraphs were not included.

He also said

that copies of
both letters had been sent to Assistant Secretary of
the Treasury
Taylor for his information and that since the letters
were sent
nothing further had been heard from the Treasury Department,
the Comptroller of
the Currency, or the Federal Deposit Insurance
Cor
poration:
"Attached are copies of certain proposed revised
schedules of the examination report form used by the Federa]. Reserve banks in the exsmination of State member
°auks. These schedules have been revised in accordance
With our understanding of the changes in policy expressed
the recent agreement announced by the Secretary of the
reasury. As you know, members of the Board's staff who
have been engaged in the revision of the form of report
or examination have discussed the details of the schedules
with representatives of your staff, as we have been deairous of obtaining uniformity with respect to the revision
Of the
report so as to conform to the essential principles
Of the agreement.
"There are certain important differences between these
schedules end
the comparable schedules, copies of vhich
have been received from your Corporation and the Comptroller of the Currency. Both of such forms, it is understood,
will show the total current market value as well as the
total book value of all securities by classes; i.e., Governmenta, municipals, rails, etc. They will also show separately the total market value of all 4th rated bonds (Baa
and similar ratings) which under the agreement are included in Group 1 securities, and the total market value




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"of all Group 2 securities. The inclusion of such market
values, from which could readily be computed appreciation
or depreciation in the securities account as a whole, in
Group 1 securities as a total, in the lowest grade of Group
1 securities separately, and in Group 2 securities, is believed to be inconsistent with the policies agreed upon
and directly contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of
the agreement as made public. Accordingly, such market
values will not be shown in the report approved by the
Board for use by the Federal Reserve banks in the examination of State member banks.
"In addition, it is understood that below the analysis
Of capital account showing the computation of adjusted
capital after deductions as specified in the agreement,
Your form will show the total depreciation, based on current
market quotations, in the 4th rated bonds and Group 2 securities, less such part of the depreciation in such securities as may have been deducted in the computation of adiusted capital. Such ,a memorandum item likewise seems to
be
inconsistent with the understanding and not in conformity
with the agreement. Accordingly our schedules do not contain a similar item and it is understood that the form of
report of examination for national banks will not include
such an item.
"The general definition of Classification II in the
sumAary of classifications in our form differs from the
definition in your form in that ours contains no reference
to securities,
whereas yours contains a specific reference
tQ
'securities which lack recognized investment merit.'
It is understood that your examiners are to include in
Cl
assification II the amount of all Group 2, 3 and 4 securities which is not more severely classified. It seems
to us that
after including in Classifications III and IV
the depreciation in such securities in the manner provided
by the agreement, the inclusion of the balance of the book
value of such securities in Classification II is not in
conformity with the agreement. In this connection, it is
Tiderstood that the definition of Classification II in the
iumPtroller's form of report of examination does not specifically call for the inclusion of securities."
In connection with the above, there was presented a memorandum
4ted AUgust 2, 1938, from the Division of Examinations referring to
the
ViSj0n of the form of report of examination of State member banks




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by Federal reserve banks which had been in process for some time and
to the
changes in the form which were made necessary by the recently
announced agreement with respect to examination procedure, and recamIlleilding that the Division be authorized to proceed with the printing
of the
completed form in Washington and to furnish supplies of the
f°rm to the
respective Federal reserve benks.

Copies of the proposed

nOW form
were distributed Among the members of the Board and changes
recentlY made therein to conform to the agreement relating to examineProcedure were discussed.
made

Attention was called to the suggestion

following a conference of members of the Division of 'Examinations

With re
presentatives of the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and
Chicago that a different page 3 of the report be used in the examinei011 of State member banks in New 'York and that a different page 12 be
a 4
-Ln the examination of State member banks in New York and Pennsylani a.

It was agreed that the use of the revised form of report should

e Uniform by all Federal reserve banks and that whether the alternate
Pa'ees should be eliminated or used in a uniform manner by all Federal
/'68erve banks should be referred to Mr. MdKee for decision.




At the conclusion of the discussion,
upon motion by Mr. McKee, the revised form
was approved unanimously to became effective on September 1, 1938, with the understanding that it would be printed by the
Board and the cost of printing prorated
among the Federal reserve banks on a basis
to be determined by the Division of Examinations and the Secretary's office.

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-15Mr. Morrill presented a draft of letter to Mr. Walter

Lichtenstein,
Secretary of the Federal Advisory Council, reading as
follows:
"Members of the Board have read with interest the
report which was submitted by the Federal Advisory Council
at the time of its meeting with the Board on May 17, 1938,
ana which summarizes the suggestions received by the members of the Council in response to the inquiries addressed
by them to member banks in their respective districts with
regard to the question: 'How can the Federal Reserve System increase the value or scope of its services to member
banks in practicable or desirable ways?' It was noted
that in a number of instances the suggestions represent
conflicting viewpoints and in others perhaps a lack of
adequate information.
"Several of the matters referred to in the report relate to important questions of System policy in connection
with which the Board wishes to know whether the Council concurs in the suggestions made or the particular viewpoint
Which it favors. Therefore, the Board will appreciate being
advised as to the conclusions of the Council on the basis
of its consideration of the report."
Approved unanimously.
Reference was also made to the statement submitted by the FedAdvisory Council at the meeting of the Board with the Council on
May 1?,
1938, with respect to the questions:

1, (a) That is the function of the Federal Advisory
Council as a part of the Federal Reserve
System.
(b) How essential and important is this function
and how might it be improved.
2.




That types of topics should be discussed by
the Council with the Board from time to time.
The statement was discussed but no
action was taken with respect thereto.

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-16Mr. Thurston joined the meeting again at this point.
Mr. Morrill presented a letter dated July 30, 1933, from Mr.

SeillH. Hoefer, Secretary of the Bankers Association of Lafayette-Ray
Cc/unties, Missouri, expressing regret at the Board's decision, as set
f°1ith in its letter of Tune 6, 1938, in declining to approve the transOt. thirteen counties in western Missouri from the eighth to the
tent
zederal reserve district. The letter set forth in considerable
clet4i1 the reasons why it was felt that the change should be made and
"Pressed the trust that the Board's decision would not be considered
as

ti

The letter was referred to Mr.
Szymczak for recommendation to the Board
as to the action to be taken.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Paulger, Dreibelbis,
Le°4"a and Cagle left the meeting and consideration was then given to
"
e I uf the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with
l'e8Pect thereto was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Pecie

Reserve System held on August 1, 1938, were approved unani-

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10
11 Sl y

Telegram dated August 2, 1938, to Mr. Parker, First Vice President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, referring to the application _
ur the "Bank of Eastman", Eastman, Georgia, for pernission to
withdr-.
Immediately from membership in the Federal Reserve System,




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and stating that the Board waives the usual_ requirement of six months
notice of intention to withdraw, and that, accordingly, upon surrender
of the Federal
reserve bank stock issued to the Bank of Eastman, the
Federal

Reserve Bank of Atlanta is authorized to cancel such stock and

nlake aPpropriate refund thereon.

The telegram also stated that it was

Understood that the Bank of Eastman desired to continue without interits status as an insured bank and that it was assumed that
termination
of its membership in the Federal Reserve System would be
deterred

until it could simultaneously be accepted by the Federal De-

Posit Insurance
Corporation as a nonmember insured bank.
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Leo T. Crowley, Chairman
of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, reading as follows:
"The Board has today approved the application of the
'13ank of Eastman', Eastman, Georgia, for permission to
Withdraw from membership in the System and waived the
usual Six months' notice of intention to withdraw.
"It is understood that the bank desires to continue,
Without interruption, its status as an insured bank and that
tt desires the insurance on deposits as a nonmember to becoMe effective simultaneously with its termination of membership in the System.
"It is understood also that you may desire to make
an examination of the bank; therefore, in accordance with
he provisions of subsection (k)(2) of section 12B of the
-rederal Reserve Act, the Board hereby grants written consent for examiners for the Federal Deposit Insurance CorPoration to examine the Bank of Eastman, Eastman, Georgia,
in connection with its application for continuation of
d aPosit insurance as a nonmember bank."
Letter to Mr. George W. Breabcwell, Cashier, The Second National

kak 0

t lAasontown, Masontown, Pennsylvania, reading as follows:




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"This refers to your letter of 'Tilly 26, 1938, relating to the status of Laurel Land and Investment Company,
Uniontown, Pennsylvania, as a holding company affiliate
of Your bank.
"The Board understands that The Second National Bank
of Masontown has outstanding 1000 shares of stock; that
895 shares were voted at the last election of directors
Of the bank; that
Laurel Land and Investment Company owned
or controlled 467 shares voted at such election; that
Laurel Land and Investment Company subsequently has sold
17 shares and now owns or controls 450 shares; and that
Laurel Land and Investment Company does not own or control any stock of, or manage or control, any bank other
than The Second National Bank of Masontown.
"On this basis, Laurel Land and Investment Company
clearly is a holding company affiliate of The Second NaBank of Masontown within the meaning of the following provisions of section 2(c) of the Banking Act of 1933:
'(c) The term "holding company affiliate"
shall include any corporation, business trust,
association, or other similar organization-'(1) Which owns or controls, directly or
Indirectly, either a majority of the shares
of capital stock of a member bank or more than
50 er centam of the number of shares voted
for the election of directors of Enly one bank
_q_..the_precedinc, election, or controls in any
manner the election of a majority of the directors of any one bank; * * *.' (Underscoring
supplied.)
"However, in view of the facts above recited, the
Board has determined that Laurel Land and Investment CamPanY
i
is not engaged, directly or indirectly, as a business
holding the stock of, or managing or controlling, banks,
banking associations, savings banks, or trust companies,
nthin the meaning of the following provisions of section
4(e) of the Banking Act of 1933:
'Notwithstanding the foregoing, the term
"holding company affiliate" shall not include
(except for the purposes of section 23A of the
Federal Reserve Act, as amended) * * * any organization which is determined by the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System not to
be engaged, directly or indirectly, as a business in holding the stock of, or managing or
controlling, banks, banking associations, savings banks or trust companies.'




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"As the result of such determination, Laurel Land and
Investment Company is not a holding company affiliate for
anY Purposes other than those of section 23A of the Federal
Reserve Act, which relates to member banks' loans and extensions of credit to their affiliates (including holding
comPany affiliates) and their investments in, and advances
against, stock and obligations of their affiliates (including holding company affiliates). It should be noted, however, that the determination by the Board does not affect
the status of Laurel Land and Investment Company prior to
the date thereof, i.e., the date of this letter.
"If Laurel Land and Investment Company should at any
time own or control a substantial portion of the stock of,
or manage or control, more than one bank, this matter should
again be submitted to the Board for its determination. The
Board reserves the right to make a further determination at
111Y time on the basis of the then existing facts."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sproul, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve
114allk of New York, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of July 21, 1938
requesting the Board to consider changing its ruling of
Una 19, 1931 (X-6915) which now reads as follows:
'In the event of the death of an officer
or employee of a Federal Reserve bank, the salary of such officer or employee should be paid
only up to the next succeeding pay day.'
"The Board has considered the suggestion that it authorize the payment of 15 days' salary after date of death
regardless of the time of month at which death occurs and
in so doing has taken occasion to review the circumstances
sUrrounding the adoption of the rule in the first instance
and the effect of its application in the present changed
circumstances.
"Briefly recounting the same, it will be recalled
that under date of April 13, 1931 (X-6859) the Board, for
feasons therein stated, submitted the following topic for
6he consideration of the Governors at their next ensuing
c
onference:
'Compensation for officers and employees
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"'periods of incapacitation and extended illness.
On one or two occasions in the past, upon the death
of an officer of a Federal reserve bank, the directors have voted to make a payment to the widow
or estate of the deceased officer equal to several
months salary. The Federal Reserve Board has
been advised by its Counsel that in his opinion
such payments are ultra vires, but that the question is a close and doubtful one as there is no
Specific provision of law covering the matter.
A question of policy is also involved inasmuch
as all of the Federal reserve banks are carrying life insurance policies covering their
Officers and employees. The Board considers
it important that some definite understanding
Should be arrived at concerning this matter
and, if possible, also regarding the matter of
salary payments to officers and employees absent on account of illness or injury not received in the line of official duty.'
"Phis resulted in the following recommendation from
the Governors' Conference to the Board:
'Careful consideration was given to the matters referred to in the board's letter X-6859,
Particularly the legal questions involved, and
also the desirability of arriving at a definite
understanding as to a general policy to be followed by each of the Federal Reserve banks.
After a general discussion, in which the members
of the Federal Reserve Board participated, it
Wa

VOTED that it is the sense of the conference:
1. That in the event of the death of
an officer or employee of a Federal Reserve bank, his salary
should be paid up to the next
succeeding pay day;
2. That the question whether any further
increase in life insurance for officers and employees of a Federal
reserve bank is desirable is a matter for the determination of the
Board of Directors of that bank
subject, if necessary, to the approval of the Federal Reserve Board.




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That this whole question inevitably
raises the propriety of further
consideration of a pension plan,
and that because of the difficulties and delays attached to
the consummation of a group pension plan, the Federal Reserve
Board should be asked whether it
would approve of a reasonable
retirement annuity or insurance
plan for individual reserve
banks along lines that are now
considered appropriate and
proper for large corporations
in this country employing large
numbers of workers.'
"Following the receipt of this recommendation, the
Board issued its ruling of June 19, 1931.
"It is to be observed that at that time it was recognized that the question being considered was closely
related to the broader question of the propriety of
establishing a retirement annuity or insurance plan for
officers and employees. When it is considered that now
e comprehensive plan, which, among other things, makes
Provision for a payment equal to a salary for a year
from the date of death to the estate or beneficiary of
each member of the retirement syctm in the service of
!. bank at the time of his death, has been established and
18 in operation, the Board is impressed with the fact
that to continue the practice authorized in its ruling
of June 19, 1931, would unjustifiably duplicate the paym?nts being made by the banks for the benefit of the individual officers and employees.
t2.
"AccordinEly, the Board has concluded that effec-ve August 16, 1938, salary of any officer or employee
414: while in the service of a Federal Reserve bank
should be paid only to and including the date of his
death. The other Federal Reserve banks are being advised to this effect."




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Approved unanimously.




Thereupon the meeting edjourned.