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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Systern

was held in Washington on Wednesday, August 19, 1936, at 10:45 a. m.
PRESENT: Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Broderick
Szymczak
McKee
Davis

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Ransom stated that in accordance with the understaraing
reached at the meeting of the Board on August 14, 1936, he had advised
Pr'esident Harrison of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York over the
telephone of the Board's attitude with respect to the proposed salary
Mr. L. F. Sailer as Vice President of the bank for the period beginSeptember 1 and ending December 31, 1936, and that after several
ellb eequent telephone conversations President Harrison had requested an
°Pportunity to discuss the matter with the Board and had come to Washto meet with the Board today for that purpose.
At the request of Mr. Ransom, Mr. Morrill reviewed briefly the
e°nsideration which had been given by the Board during recent years to

the salary fixed by the directors of the New York bank for Mr. Sailer
411d during the discussion which ensued Mr. Ransom stated that while talkwith Chairman Eccles over the telephone yesterday concerning another
1114tter he had mentioned the action taken by the New York directors with
l'egard to Mr. Sailer's salary and that the Chairman had stated again




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that although he was present at the meeting of the directors in New York
When the
action was taken he had made no commitment with regard thereto
and that any action that the Board decided to take on the matter would
be agreeable to him.
Mr. Ransom read the following letter addressed to the Board by
4esident Harrison under date of August 18, 1936, which had been handed
t° Mr. Ransom by President Harrison upon the latter's arrival in
t148hingt0n this morning:
"During the past few days we have had some talks over
the telephone regarding my letter of July n, 1936 advising
the Board of Governors that our directors had voted, subject
to the approval of the Board of Governors, to fix Mr. Sailer's
salary for the period beginning September 1, 1936 and ending
December 51, 1956, at the rate of t30,000 per annum.
"In that letter of July 31, I did not comment on the
reasons for the action of our directors largely because I
had had several talks with Chairman Eccles about Mr. Sailer's
ease and had gained the impression that our proposal would
be agreeable to him and probably to the Board as a whole.
Furthermore, Chairman Eccles' letter of March 11, which advised us that the Board had approved Mr. Sailer's salary only
until the end of August, 1936, stated that that action was
taken 'for the reasons which I communicated to you during
.Ir telephone conversation of March 7.1 In that converse°I
tlon Chairman Eccles had made it clear to me that the action
of the Board was not intended to indicate that Mr. Sailer's
services with the bank should necessarily be terminated on
August 311 but rather that the salary was approved only until
August 31 because of the fact that by that time our directors would have to take action one way or another as to the
date of Mr. Sailer's retirement from the bank.
"In my subsequent and more recent talks with Chairman
Eccles, as in my talks with you over the telephone, I pointed
out certain considerations which made it seem advisable to
Us to continue Mr. Sailer's services with the bank until the
end of the calendar year. In the first place, we have adopted
a general policy in the hank, now that we have a retirement




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"system, of retiring all clerical employees who shall reach
the age of 65 on the first of May following. It has seemed
to be a wise and workable general policy, preferable to retirement of each individual on the actual date of his 65th
birthday. The only two official cases which have arisen since
the adoption of this policy for employees, have been those of
Mr. Dodge, our general auditor, who is 68 years of age, and
Mr. Sailer. Mr. Dodge has been advised that his retirement
Will become effective on December 31, and the Board of Governors has approved his salary until that date. Our directors
to
believe that similar action should be taken with respect
the
t,
Augus
in
ed
Mr. Sailer rather than to have him retir
be
month of his 65th birthday, or on next May 1, as would
the
bank.
of
staff
the case were he a member of the clerical
a con"Generally, or in the absence of good reasons for
nue
conti
to
e
trary decision, it would seem to be appropriat
until
ed,
retir
the services of any senior officer about to be
and
the end of the calendar year, when official readjustments
to
than
r
salaries normally come up for consideration, rathe
he happens to
retire him during the particular month in which
attain the age of 65.
involved, how"Quite apart from the general principles
of continuever, both the directors and myself are desirous
ber. Ve are
ing Mr. Sailer's services until the end of Decem
Sailer,
in the process of reorganization within the bank. Mr.
funcwho is vice president in charge of the administration
that function,
tion, and who has for years been in charge of
salary, expenses,
Including various questions of organization,
this period
and budgets, will be particularly helpful during
ces can
of reorganization. Mile no one individual's servi
his long
of
se
becau
be said to be indispensable, nevertheless
on, Mr.
izati
organ
service and experience in these matters of
bank and
the
to
ul
helpf
Sailer will be particularly useful and
year.
to me personally during the balance of the
directors have voted
"It is for these reasons that our
I know that
to fix his salary until the end of the year, and
action."
their
of
they will appreciate the Board's approval
meeting at this point
President Harrison was called into the
e in connection
414 invited to make any comments that he might desir
Thereupon Mr. Harrison diswith the proposed salary for Mr. Sailer.
ed to above and, in
ellesed the points mentioned in the letter referr
4dditi0n to stating the Position of his board of directors with respect




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to Mr. Sailer's retention, emphasized his own feeling that because of
11
" Sailer's ability and past experience in connection with the operati°ne and personnel of the bank it would be especially helpful to him
as President of the bank if Mr. Sailer could be retained until the end
°f the year in connection with the completion of the reorganization now
being made of the functions and personnel of the New York bank. President Harrison also stated that he had indicated to Mr. Sailer that he
/1°111d be retired as of the end of the year end that if it were now decided to retire him before that time some embarrassment would result,
but that as the reorganization plan of the bank, under which all of

the operating departments of the bank will be placed under Vice President Rounds, would be completed by December 31, 1936, there would be
11° reason for retaining Mr. Sailer after that date.
fliet, he

He added that, in

that date because
would prefer not to retain Mr. Sailer after

the reorganization plan in view made other provision for the perform411°0 of his duties.
had been ample
Upon inquiry from Mr. McKee as to whether there
11, 1936, to make
since the receipt of the Board's letter of March

the necessary reassignment of duties among the officers of the bank in
contemplation of the termination of Mr. Sailer's services on August
might have been possible
'Mr. 7arrison stated that such rearrangement
4

1144 he realized that it was contemplated that the services of Mr. Sailer
wel'e to be dispensed with as of that date, that some time ago, in artici-




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of the retirement of Mr. Sailer, he had placed Mr. R. H. Kimball

under Mr. Sailer for the purpose of learning his work and that Mr.
4111hall is to take over the principal duties of Mr. Sailer under the
8nPervi8i0n of Mr. Pounds upon completion of the reorganization now in
Progress.
Mr. Ransom pointed out that the Board had limited its approval
Of Mr.
Sailer's salary to August 31, 1936, with the express understandthat he would be retired as of that date and that the Board had not
exPected a further request from the New York bank for the approval of
4

ealary for an additional period. President Harrison stated that he

had not so interpreted the Board's letter of March 11, 1936, and that,
while he was willing to take Dill responsibility for the misunderstanding, he felt it was highly desirable that Mr. Sailer's services be retained until the end of the year for the reason previously stated.
Mr. Ransom then referred to a letter addressed to the Board by
131'esident Harrison on August 13, 1936, inclosing copies of correspondence with the Bank for International Settlements in May and July, 1936,
bith respect to the renewal of the central bank credits to the National
ap411k of Hungary which expire on October 18, 1936, and requesting
Plio7a1 by the Board of Governors of the action taken by the board of
directors of the Federal reserve bank in authorizing the officers to
e"veY to the Bank for International Settlements for transmission to

the National Bank of Hungary and all participants in the credits, the




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views of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York which were set forth in
Pr
esident Harrison's letter as follows:
11(1)

11(3)

that we should take issue with the implication in
the Hungarian Bank's letter of July 4, that
these central banks debts enjoy no priority of
statusS
That a further renewal of the credits without any
transfer of repayment of principal is not warranted in the face of an improvement in the
economic situation in Hungary, and
that, therefore, this bank should not now readily
join with the B. I. S. and the central bank
governors of the Board of the B. I. S. in the
acceptance of the Hungarian proposal of July 4
as modified by the directors of the B. I. S.
unless the National Bank of Hungary is prepared,
in return for the creditors agreement to renew
for a period of nine months, to agree that
in addition to paying interest in foreign
exchange for the period of the renewal at
the rate of 1% per annum on both the first
and second syndicate credits, it shall, on
October 18, 1936, transfer to each of the
creditors in foreign exchange
(a) the 2% amortization on the second syndicate credit placed to gold pengo blocked
account on October 18, 1934, and the
further 2% amortization so handled on
October 18, 1935, as well as
(b) a further 2% amortization of the second
syndicate credit to be made and transferred as above on October 18, 1936.
ed
And, that, in the event this proposal is accept
t
withou
York
New
of
the Federal Reserve Bank
ts
prejudice to its rights regarding future paymen
gold
the
have
to
should agree as heretofore,
dollars due it under the proposal calculated
er
at the gold parity of the dollar on Decemb
and
,
dollars
S.
17, 1931, converted into U.
upon receipt of the dollar proceeds, to credit
as interest, a number of U. S. dollars equiva
infor
due
s
dollar
lent to the number of gold
terest, and to credit as a partial repayment of
principal the balance of such U. S. dollars."




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-7Mr. Ransom stated that he had discussed this matter with Presi-

dent Harrison over the telephone and he inquired of President Harrison
whether he had any further information to give to the Board with respect
thereto.

President Harrison stated that he had sent a telegram to the

Other Federal reserve banks inquiring whether they approved the terms
Proposed by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for the renewal of the
credits and that he would advise the Board when replies were received
from the Federal reserve banks. President Harrison was advised by Mr.
Ransom that the Board would take no action in the matter until advice
'
was received as to the attitude of the other Federal reserve banks.
At this point President Harrison left the meeting.
There followed a further discussion of the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York that the Board approve a salary for Mr.
Sailer at the rate of 130,000 per annum for the period commencing September 1 and ending December 31, 1936.




Mr. McKee moved that the Board adhere
to the position taken in its letter of
March 112 1936.
This motion was put by the Chair and
lost, the members voting as follows:
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Szymczak
McKee
Ransom
Broderick
Davis

"aye"
"aye"
"no"
tInoty
"no"

Mr. Broderick moved that, in view of
made by President Harrison,
statements
the
a salary at the rate of
approve
Board
the
Mr. Sailer for the
for
per
annum
4,30,000

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-8period beginning September 1 and ending not later than December 31, 1936,
with the definite understanding that
Mr. Sailer will be retired on or before
the latter date, that there will be no
further request for approval of any compensation for him, and that this action
of the Board is final.
This motion was put by the Chair
and carried, the members voting as follows:
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom
Broderick
Szymczak
Davis
McKee

"aye"
"aye"
"aye"
"aye"
"no"

Mr. Ransom stated that a letter dated August 17, 1936, had just
been received from Mr. Clerk, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, inclosing a copy of the complaint in equity
filed in the District Court of the United States for the Northern DistIlet of California, Southern Division, in the case of Andrae B. Nord—
sk°g, et., Plaintiff, vs. Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, et

al.,

Nfendants. He suggested that the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco

be requeaed to keep the Board advised of all developments in the case
srld that a copy of the answer proposed to be made by the Federal reserve
bilnk be submitted to the Board for consideration before it is filed.
Mr. Ransom's suggestion was approved
unanimously.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Vest and Dreibelbis left the
r4eeting and consideration was then given to each of the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken
bY the Board:



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-9The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the Fed-

eral Reserve System held on August 18, 1936, were approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Young, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
13"ton, stating that the Board approves the establishment without change
bY the bank today of the rates of discount and purchase in its existing
schedule.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Walsh, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve
Dank of Dallas, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of July 15, 1936, restaff
garding the proposed reorganization of the examining
of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dillas.
an
"It has been noted that at the present time you have
assisthree
examining staff consisting of four examiners and
t
tant examiners; that you feel that on the basis of the presen
tion
examina
State bank membership in your district the future
work can satisfactorily be conducted by a force of two exan
aminers and two assistant examiners; and that you desire
of a proposed
expression of the Board's views as to the wisdom
to
Plan to dispense with the services of two examiners and
the
of
.more
or
one
release or transfer to another department
ion
express
an
also
assistant examiners. You have requested
of the Board's views regarding the release of Trust Examiner
the work
Neilan and the designation of Ir. Betts to perform
of
ments
depart
in connection with the examination of trust
State member banks in your district.
1936, the view
"In Chairman Eccles' letter of March 25,
be efshould
was expressed that economies in organization
efthe
ng
impairi
fected wherever possible to do so without
ngly,
Accordi
banks.
ficient operation of the Federal reserve
s
you
stance
circum
If after full consideration of all of the
overstaffed, the
feel that the bank examination department is
ion therein to
reduct
Board will interpose no objection to a
proper
functionthe
a number sufficiently adequate to insure
ing of the department.
only three State
"The Board has noted that there are




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"member banks in your district which operate trust departments, and that you feel that, in the event that the present
Trust Examiner, Mr. Neilan, is released as proposed, Mr.
Betts is capable of rendering satisfactory service as trust
examiner for your bank. In view of al) the circumstances,
the Board approves, in the event of the release of Mr. Neilan,
the transfer of the trust examination work to Mr. Betts,
With the understanding, of course, that the trust examination
work will not be slighted under such an arrangement.
"Please advise the Board of the action taken in connection with the reorganization of the bank examination department."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Sargent, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the
Pederal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, reading as follows:
"Board has given consideration to application of 'Cowlitz
Valley Bank', Kelso, Washington, for permission to retire
151000 of capital debentures and, in view of the marked upward trend of deposits does not consider it advisable to approve the proposed retirement at this time, but will be glad
to reconsider the matter after another examination of the
bank has been made, if the situation at that time is such
that you are willing to submit a favorable recommendation."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Eb

)
1A-0.-/k
g;j

Approved:




cLA:71
ice Chairman.

LAJJA9
Secretary.