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A meeting of the Executive Comuittee of the Federal Reserve Board was

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held in the office of the Federal Reserve Board on Tuesday, August 18, 1931,
at 1045 a. iii.
PRESIY.T:

ALSO PRESENT:

Governor Meyer
Er. Hamlin
Mr. Miller
Mr. Tames
Mr. McClelland, Assistant Secretary.
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mx. L. R. Rounds, Deputy Governor of the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Mr. Winfield Riefler, Secretary, System
Committee on Member Bank Reserves
1:r. Parry, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics.

La'. Snead, Chairman of the Committee on Member Bank Reserves, stated

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that the
Committee at the beginning of its study on reserves, had carefully
e°nsidered the scone of the study and felt that, while it would be desirable
to have information
available on various matters with which the question of
Inernbar bank reserves is associated, if the Committee were to make a seasonable
report, it would be necessary to confine its activities to the study of member
b44k reserves only.

Re stated that consideration was given in the study to the

the°rY and purpose of reserves and to the question of the adequacy of reserves
4nder the present methods of computation, and that it was felt by the Committee
that the volume
of reserves now carried by member banks is adequate and that
It
was not necessary or desirable that a new plan for the computing of reserves
all°uld provide for any increase in the aggregate amount.

Mr. Smead presented

tentative drafts of a proposed amendment to Section 19 of the Federal Reserve
4" and of a proposed regulation covering member bank reserves which has been
t';:ceeci. to by the Committee.
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He then outlined to the Board the salient features

Plan for calculating member bank reserves, provided for in the proposed




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amendraent and regulation, and stated that in deciding on this plan the Committee
considered three major problems: (1) whether the calculations should be based
on net or gross deposits, (2) whether the reserves should be entirely in the
form of balances with the Federal Reserve banks, or partly in the form of such
balances and partly in the form of cash in vault, and (3), what classifications,
if anY, should be made of the deposits of member banks.

Be stated that on the

first point the Committee decided that it would work an unjustifiable hardship
on certain banks if required reserves were based on gross deposits, which
include in some cases a large amount of uncollected items.

As to the second

question, he said the Committee had reached the conclusion that in view of the
necessity of country banks carrying a larger amount of vault cash than is
necessary in the case of member banks in Federal Reserve and branch cities, it
VcUld be a more satisfactory arrangement to permit reserves to consist in part
Of cash in vault, with a proviso that city banks carry at least 80% of their
Ileeerves in the form of balances at the Reserve bank, and country banks at
least 40%.

On the third question, Mr. Smead stated, it was felt that the

present difficulty which is being experienced in connection with the classification of time and demand deposits could be avoided, and the reserves of member
banks could be made to work automatically in the direction of credit control,
it no classification of deposits were made but the member banks were required
to carry a flat reserve of 5% on all net deposits, plus a reserve of 50% of the
4!erege daily debits to deposit accounts during the eight-weeks period pre"ding the beginning of the current reserve computation period, with a
111"-ImIlm required reserve of 13% of gross deposits.

The proposed plan was then

liBellesed, consideration being given to the reasons for the changes suggested
e434 the possible effects of the plan.




Mr. Smead also outlined to the Board an

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alternate plan which had been considered by the Committee.

He then stated that

it is now planned to have representatives of the Committee on Member Bank Reserves visit the various Federal Reserve banks and discuss the proposed plan
with the officers of the Federal Reserve banks, and to submit the Committee's
final report to the Board and the banks by October 15th.

He requested, on

behalf of the Committee, that authority be given to visit the Federal Reserve
banks as proposed.
After some further discussion,
upon motion, it was voted to authorize
visits to the various Federal Reserve
banks by members of the Committee on
Reserves to secure the reaction of the
barks to the proposed plan.
Messrs. Smead, Goldenweiser, Rounds, Riefler and Parry then left the
pleeting.
The Assistant Secretary presented the following matters which were
considered and acted upon by the Committee:
Memorandum from Counsel dated August 17th, submitting draft of a reply
t° a letter dated July 21, 1931 from tie Federal Reserve Agent at
illquiring whether the Board has granted permission to
aerve as a director of the Farmers and

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Francisco,

Hellman to

Nerchants National Bank of Los Angeles,

and as an officer and director of the Wells ifargo Bank & Union Tu-t

a°114)anY of San Francisco, Calif.; the proposed reply advising that, for
l'easons stated, an application filed by Nr. Hellman in 1923 was not considered

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1)1 the Board and Mr. Hellman is, therefore, serving the two banks without the
I3oarA,
s permission and that he should be requested to file an application for
l/ermission to serve the two banks involved.




After discussion, upon notion,
the proposed letter was approved.

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-4Letter dated August 12th from the Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at

Philadelphia, submitting an application for permission to exercise full
fiduciary powers, filed by the Hatboro National Bank, Hatboro, Penna., which
Plans to acquire certain assets and assume the deposit liabilities of the
Hatboro Trust Company, an institution having approximately .;700,000 of trust
assets which the national bank would like to qualify to handle.

In this

connection, the Assistant Secretary called attention to the action taken at the
meeting of the Executive Committee on July 17th in advising the Federal Reserve
Agent at Philadelphia that, in view of information submitted by him at the time
as to the condition of the bank, the Committee was of the opinion that under

the circumstances the Hatboro National Bank would be justified in filing an
%3Plicat1on for trust powers.
After some discussion as to the condition of the applicant bank, upon recommendation of Mr. James and Mr. Hamlin, it
was voted to authorize the bank to act as
trustee, executor, administrator, registrar
of stocks and bonds, guardian of estates,
assignee, receiver, committee of estates of
lunatics, or in any other fiduciary capacity
in which state banks, trust companies, or
other corporations which come into competition
with national banks are permitted to act under
the laws of Pennsylvania, only in specific
trusts held by the Hatboro Trust Company, which
may hereafter be acquired by the Hatboro National
Bank, and to defer action on the application for
full trust powers pending the next examination
of the bank.
Telegrams dated August 14th from the Secretary of the Federal Reserve
1344k of Atlanta, and the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, adIrisitg that at meetings of the board of directors at Atlanta and the executive
e°111Elittce at Chicago on that date, no changes were made in the banks' existing
acheri
dules of rates of discount and purchase.




Without objection, noted with
approval.

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Letter dated August 14th from the Secretary of the Federal Advisory
Council, advising that the next meeting of the Council will be held in
Washington on Tuesday, September 15th, and requesting a list of the topics
Which the Federal Reserve Board desires the Council to discuss at that meeting.
Referred to Executive Committee.
Memorandum dated August 13th from the Governor, advising that, upon
l'equest, he had returned the letter dated August 12th from the Acting
CoMptroller of the Currency on the subject of depreciation in investments of
lUltional banks, which was read at the meeting of the Board on that date, and
had

addressed the following letter to Mr. Await under date of August 13th:
"At the meeting of the Federal Reserve Board held on August
11, 1931, the matter of current bond depreciation in member banks
was discussed, and the Board recorded its attitude in the minutes
Of the meeting as follows:
'It was the sense of the Board that while defaulted bonds could properly be written down to
market values, the Comptroller of the Currency would
be justified in adopting an attitude of forbearance
in dealing with depreciation in the case of interestpaying bonds, it being the belief of the Board that
in many instances bonds not in default have depreciated out of line with their probable present and
future real values.'
"This expression of the sense of the Board I personally discussed at a meeting of the twelve Governors of the Federal Reserve
Banks, which was taking place on August 11, and the Governors exPressed themselves in harmony with the sense of the Board.
. "I am submitting this for your consideration in connection
With the formulation of policy under present unusual conditions."
Noted with approval.
Letter dated August 15th from the Federal Reserve Agent at Dallas,

611bra1tting copy of a letter received under date of August 11th from Professor

R. B.
Westerfield, requesting certain information with regard to the practice
Ot the bank in requirinr, additional collateral in connection with paper
cil8coUnted by the bank; the Federal Reserve Agent inquiring whether it will be
ee.ble to the Board to answer the questions contained in the letter.



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this connection, the Assistant Secretary called attention to a letter received
fram Deputy Governor Rounds under date of August 17th, enclosing copy of a
reply made by the New York bank to a similar inquiry from Professor Westerfield,
coMmenting briefly on the practice of requiring additional collateral as a
necessary part of the function of granting credit, and stating that it is not
Possible to answer categorically the several questions contained in the inquiry.
After discussion, upon motion, it
was voted to submit a copy of the reply
made by the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York to the Federal Reserve Agent at
Dallas.
Letter dated August 14th from the Federal Reserve Agent at Cleveland,
44vising that the Board's letter
of July 16th, inquiring whether the present
18 an appropriate time to institute proceedings looking to forfeiture of membershiP in the System against a member bank which is in an unsatisfactory conwas presented at the meeting of the board of directors of the Cleve41d bank on August 7th in connection with the recommendations of their
eecutive committee that the State Bank of Bowling Green, Ohio, and the Farmers
flcCutchenville, Ohio, be cited to show cause why their membership should
40t be forfeited; the Federal Reserve Agent advising that his board feels
that
411 Possible protection to depositors is a matter of greatest importance, that,
1:4 view of all the facts, the action of their executive committee is proper and
its definite conclusion should be a matter of record with the Federal Reserve
4111'd; that it further feels that the time as to when action may be most
4131%°Pr1ate1y taken is a matter to be determined by the Federal Reserve Board,
8-4(1 that in this particular the board of directors defers to the judgment of
the Pederal Reserve Board.




After discussion, upon motion, it
was voted to advise the Federal Reserve
Agent that while the Board agrees that
the recommendations of the executive

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correct, it also feels that the board of
directors of the Cleveland bank is in a
better position to determine, on the basis
of the banking situation in that district,
when action should be taken and the Board
will, therefore, be guided by their
recommendation in the natter.
Memorandum from Counsel dated August 10th with regard to letter dated

XUne 9th from the Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at Chicago calling attention
to the fact that trust companies in Indiana previously granted perpetual
charters by the State, were on February 24, 1921, granted general banking
Powers, and that the Attorney General of Indiana has ruled that the charters
of these trust companies will terminate at the end of twenty years from that
date under a provision of the Indiana Constitution which provides that the
charters of banks and banking companies shall be terminated within twenty years.
With his memorandum Counsel submitted draft of letter to the Federal Reserve
Iteht at Chicago, advising that under the circumstances outlined, Indiana
trIlat companies which are members of the Federal Reserve System should reorgan14e and make new applications for membership at the end of the twenty-year
eriod; the letter also requesting that the Board be advised immediately of any
(leciaion with regard to this question which may hereafter be rendered by the
courts of Indiana.
Upon recommendation of the Law
Committee, the proposed letter was
approved and ordered transmitted.
Draft of letter to the Chief Clerk of the Treasury Department, sub14itt.in

lists of old reports now on file in the Board's Division of Bank

°Ileretions which are no longer needed by the division, and recommending that
411 Papers indicated in the lists be destroyed in the discretion of the
saeretary of the Treasury under any arrangement which shall be in accordance
llith the
law.



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Upon motion, the proposed
letter was approved.
Report by Fir. Tames with reference to the question of a nonmember bank
which has been designated as a special depositary of public funds advertising
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"United States Depositary", which at the meeting on August 11th, he was

requested to discuss with the Treasury Department.
°yell' the file with the Board's Counsel

He stated that having gone

he has reached the conclusion that the

4erit3 of the case do not warrant its being taken up with the officials of the
l easury Department, and he submitted draft of letter to the President of the
Pirst rational Bank of Gardner, Mass., who raised the ouestion, advising that
While the Board is at all times anxious to protect the interest of member banks,
there would appear to be no legal or moral ground upon which the Federal Reserve
Board or member banks can validly object to a nonmember bank which is actually
4ctthg as a depositary of public funds under the Act of September 24, 1917,
Icivertising that it is a "'United states Depositary", because there is no law
l'ohibiting it and it is a truthful statement of fact.
Upon motion, the proposed letter
was approved.
The Governor then referred to the letter to the Chairman of the Open
V-cet Policy Conference, approved at the meeting on August 13th, transmittal
tIt Which was withheld at the meeting of the Board on August 14th pending its
krther consideration.
At the conclusion of the discussion
which followed, the following amended
letter was approved and ordered transmitted:
"The Federal Reserve Board has considered the Report and Recommendation of the Open Market Policy Conference held August 11, 1931.
wI am desired to advise you that the Board is in accord with
the position of the Conference as expressed in the following statenent:




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'It is the opinion of the Conference that economic
conditions in this country and throujiout the world are
now such that it is essential that the System be prepared promptly to take whatever further proper steps are
in its power to encourage or facilitate a recovery in
conditions as soon as it appears likely that such steps
will be effective in accomplishing this purnose.'
"In consequence, the Board is prepared to give favorable consideration to any open market proposal or program which is designed to improve matters in the existing economic and financial exigency and to
accelerate business recovery. The Board re:ards these as appropriate
and valid objectives in determining the character and scope of open
market operations of the Federal Reserve System in the present extraordinary and depressed state of business.
"The Board, therefore, gives a general approval to the contemplated
Purchase of Government securities for System account, and in order that
it may be prepared to act promptly on the current application of this
Policy of purchase, it has authorized the Governor of the Board, until
such time as the matter of open market Policy shall be reviewed and
further considered, to act in its behalf with respect to the purchase
of an aggregate amount of .?120,000,000 of Government securities as
fixed in the Recommendation of the Conference. The Board is not
authorizing the Governor to exercise its approval with regard to sales
of open market securities acquired for System account. In the event
that conditions should take such a turn as to make sales of securities
from System account advisable, in the judgment of the Executive
Committee of the Conference, the Board would wish to consider the matter."
OF STANDING C01.2=2,13:
August 14th
15th
17th
18th
1)11teds August 14th

Recommending changes in stock at Federal Reserve Banks,
as set forth in the AuxiliaryiNnute Book of this date.
Recommendations approved.
Recommending approval of the application of Nr. Clifford
A. Spoon, for permission to serve at the same time as
director of the First National Bank of Eatontown, New
Tersey, and as director and officer of the First National
Bank of Jersey City, New Tersey.
Approved.
The meeting adjourned at 1:45 p.

gWO

Assistant Secretary.

44,`oved:




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(Executive
Committee)

AUXILIARY MINUTES
(August 18, 1931)

Reports of Standing Committee dated August 14th, 15th, 17th and 18th,
recommending changes in stock at Federal Reserve Banks, approved as follows:
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3p1ication for ORIGINAL Stock:
District No. 11.
Pearsall National Bank in Pearsall, Texas
p1ication for ADDITIONAL Stock:
District No. 7.
First National Bank, Wauwatosa, Wis.
APplications for SURRENDER of Stock:
District No. 1.
Limerick National Bank, Limerick, Maine. (V.L.Abs.
by Fidelity Trust Company)
Fall River National Bank, Fall River, Mass. (Decrease
in surplus)
8Pringfield National Bank, Springfield, Mass. (Reduction
in capital)

Shares
21

21

3

3

90
60
300

450

District No. 4.
First National Bank, Watertown, Ohio. (V.L. terminal)
Third National Bank, New London, Ohio. (Insolvent)

30
42

72

District Yo. 5.
First National Bank, Federalsburg, Md. (Insolvent)

20

20

District No. 6.
'i.rst National Bank, Arcadia, Fla. (Decrease in sur, plus)
First National Bank, Gulfport, Miss. (V.L.Suc. by First
National Bank in Gulfport)
District
No. 7.
Bennett Savings Bank, Bennett, Iowa. (Cons. with
Farmers Savings Bank)
District
No. 10.
First National Bank, Bonner Springs, Kans. (V.L.Abs.
by Commercial State Bank)
°klahoma National Bank, Cushing, Okla. (V.L.Abs. by
First National Bank of Cushing)




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271

307

36

36

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36

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APP1ications for SUREENDER of Stook: (Cont'd)
District No. 11.
First-Taylor National Bank, Taylor, Tex. (Cons. First
National Bank and Taylor National Bank)
American National Bank, Shreveport, La. (V.L.Suc. by
Commercial-American Bank& Trust Co.)

Shares

120
218
Total

336
1,275

Assistant Secretary.

APProved: