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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

August 16, 1965

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane
Gov. Maisel

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, August 16, 1965.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice
Robertson
Shepardson
Mitchell
Daane
Maisel

Chairman

Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Noyes, Adviser to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Brill, Director, Division of Research and
Statistics
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Mr. O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Holland, Associate Director, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Circulated items.

The following items, copies of which are

attached to these minutes under the respective item numbers indicated,
Were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Wells Fargo Bank, San Francisco,
California, approving an extension of time
to establish a branch in the blocks bounded
by Battery, Clay, Davis, and Washington Streets.

1

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
waiving the assessment of a penalty incurred
by The Iowa State Bank, Algona, Iowa, because
of a deficiency in its required reserves.

2

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-2Item No.
3

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
approving the appointment of James J. Lease as
Federal Reserve Agent's Representative at the
Denver Branch.
Report on competitive factors (Erie, Pennsylvania).

A revision

of the proposed conclusion having been agreed upon, unanimous approval
was given to the transmittal to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
of a report on the competitive factors involved in the proposed merger
of The Bank of Erie into Union Bank & Trust Co., Erie, both of Erie,
Pennsylvania.

In the form in which approved, the conclusion read as

follows:
While the proposed merger between the Union Bank &
Trust Co., Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania, and The Bank of Erie,
Erie, Pennsylvania, might enable the resulting bank to
become more competitive for loan business in the $250,000
to $425,000 category, it would eliminate existing and
potential competition between the participants and would
also reduce the number of available banking sources for
small and medium size borrowers from 5 to 4. The overall effect of the proposed merger on competition would
be adverse.
Coin distribution procedures (Items 4 and 5).

There had been dis-

tributed a memorandum dated August 12, 1965, from Mr. Farrell recommending,
for reasons stated, (1) that the Reserve Banks be permitted to discontinue
reb agging of nickels, of which there was now an adequate supply, and (2)
that the views of the Conference of Presidents be requested regarding variation among the Federal Reserve Banks with respect to accepting coin orders

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8/16/65
from nonmember banks.

Attached to the memorandum were drafts of letters

to the Federal Reserve Bank Presidents and to the Chairman of the Conference of Presidents reflecting these recommendations.
The memorandum also reported for the Board's information that
the joint Treasury-Federal Reserve Ad Hoc Coin Committee, which was
studying possible improvements in coin estimating and distribution
procedures, had noted considerable variation among the Reserve Banks
as to the methods used in rationing coin to commercial banks.

In the

light of various considerations set out in the memorandum, the Committee
had suggested that a committee of the Presidents' Conference be appointed
to develop a rationing procedure that would yield comparable results
among the Reserve Banks.

Such procedure would be presented to the meeting

of the Conference of Presidents in September for consideration looking
toward adoption by all Reserve Banks.

A committee had now been appointed

and would report to the forthcoming meeting of the Conference.
After comments by Mr. Farrell, there was a discussion of the
procurrent and prospective situation in regard to coin supplies, the
respective
cedures being followed in redeeming silver certificates, and the
roles of the Reserve Banks and the Mint in regard to the supply and distribution of coins.

Reference was made to previous occasions on which

shortage
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Wallace had discussed coin
Problems with Board members and the Presidents of the Federal Reserve
Banks, and it was suggested that another meeting might be helpful in

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view of the situation that appeared likely to develop over the next
several months.
At the conclusion of the discussion the letters to the Reserve
Bank Presidents and to the Chairman of the Conference of Presidents were

...U2E2y29.1.. unanimously.

Copies are attached as Items 4 and 5.

It was

understood that the suggestion for a meeting with Assistant Secretary
Wallace would be followed up.
Secretary's Note: At the Board meeting
on August 18 an alternative suggestion
was made that Mr. Wallace be invited to
meet with the Board members and perhaps
selected Reserve Bank representatives on
a mutually convenient date, it having
been ascertained that difficulties would
be involved in scheduling a meeting on
dates in the near future when all the
Reserve Bank Presidents would be in
Washington.
Exchange of information regarding national banks (Item No. 6).
There had been distributed a draft of reply to a letter of July 28, 1965,
from the Comptroller of the Currency regarding exchange of information
concerning national banks between the Federal Reserve Banks and the
Regional Comptrollers of the Currency.

(The present correspondence grew

out of the reply made by the Board on July 12, 1965, to a letter of
June 1 in which the Comptroller requested information regarding borrowings by national banks from Federal Reserve Banks.)
After a discussion during which various suggestions were agreed
Upon regarding approach and emphasis, the letter was approved unanimously
in the form attached as Item No. 6.

8/16/65

-5All members of the staff except Mr. Kenyon then withdrew.
Minneapolis directorship.

Governor Balderston related for the

benefit of Chairman Martin the substance of a discussion of the Board
in executive session on August 12, 1965, concerning a question that had
been raised by Chairman Bean of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
regarding the procedures that might appropriately be followed in locating persons for consideration by the Board of Governors in selecting a
member of the Bank's Board of Directors to succeed Mr. Bean, whose term
would expire at the end of 1965.

Chairman Martin then clarified the

background against which the question had been raised, indicating that
President Galusha had inquired of him about the steps usually followed
in such circumstances and that, at his suggestion, Mr. Galusha had then
discussed the matter with Chairman Bean.

Chairman Martin expressed the

view that it would seem in order to indicate to Chairman Bean that, other
things being equal, it could probably be assumed that Deputy Chairman
Bemis, whose term did not expire until the end of 1966, would be named
Chairman of the Bank to succeed Mr. Bean.

Chairman Martin thought that

such an informal indication might be helpful to Chairman Bean in working
With Mr. Bemis in developing names of possible appointees to the Class C
director vacancy that would develop at the end of this year, and there
was general agreement that this would be appropriate.
The meeting then adjourned.

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8/16/65

Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board the following
items:
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City (attached Item
No. 7) approving the designation of 52 employees as special assistant
examiners.
Memoranda recommending the following actions relating to the Board's
staff:
Entrance salary adjustment
Benson H. Hart, Economist, Division of International Finance, at
the rate of $9,240 per annum, effective August 16, 1965, rather than
at the rate of $10,250 approved by the Board on June 21, 1965.
Transfers
Jo Ann H. Cannada, from the position of Secretary in the Office
of the Controller to the position of Secretary in the Division of Research
and Statistics, with an adjustment in basic annual salary from $5,505 to
$5,165, effective August 19, 1965.
Brenda Irene Dobson, from the position of Stenographer in the Division of Personnel Administration to the position of Stenographer in the
Division of Examinations, with no change in basic annual salary at the
rate of $4,005, effective August 29, 1965.
Peggy Jo H.
of the Secretary
Controller, with
effective August

Powles, from the position of Secretary in the Office
to the position of Secretary in the Office of the
no change in basic annual salary at the rate of $5,330,
23, 1965.

.6.Essstance of resignation
Wilbert J. Hart, Supply Clerk, Division of Administrative Services,
effective at the close of business August 18, 1965.

Assistant Secretary

Item No. 1
8/16/65

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS

orrocIAL

CORRESPONDENCE

TO THE BOARD

August 16, 1965.

Board of Directors,
Wells Fargo Bank,
San Francisco, California.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors has approved
an extension until February 25, 1966, of the time
within which Wells Fargo Bank may establish a
branch in the blocks bounded by Battery, Clay,
Davis and Washington Streets, San Francisco,
California.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

Item No. 2
8/16/65

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADORCIIIII OFFICIAL CORREISPONOIENCt
TO THE BOARD

August 16, 1965

M. L. H. Jones,
Vice President and Cashier,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
P. 0. Box 834,
Chicago, Illinois. 60690
Dear Mr. Jones:
This refers to your letter of August 3, 1965, regarding the
on
Penalty of $89.75 incurred by The Iowa State Bank, Algona, Iowa,
the
for
reserves
required
its
in
$39,000
of
an average deficiency
reserve computation period ended July 21, 1965.
from an
It is noted that (1) this deficiency resulted both
error in the bank's computation of average reserves required and from
a delay byits correspondent bank in making a transfer; (2) if the
have
transfer had been completed as planned, the bank still would
been deficient in its reserves, but in an amount that could and would
have been waived by your Bank under Paragraph E of the Board's instrucrecord
tions (F.R.L.S. #6120); and (3) the bank has had an excellent
in maintaining its required reserves.
Bank to
In the circumstances, the Board authorizes your
ended
period
waive the assessment of the penalty of $89.75 for the
July 21, 1965.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No. 3
8/16/65

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

August 16, 1965.

11r. Homer A. Scott,
Federal Reserve Agent,
Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City,
Kansas City, Missouri.
64106
Dear Mr. Scott:
As requested in Mr. Mathews' letter of July 28, 1965, the
Board of Governors approves the appointment of Mr. James J. Lease as
Federal Reserve Agent's Representative at the Denver Branch to
succeed Mr. Clare T. Roeder.
This approval is given with the understanding that Mr. Lease
Will be solely responsible to the Federal Reserve Agent and the Board
Of Governors for the proper performance of his duties, except that,
during the absence or disability of the Federal Reserve Agent or a
vacancy in that office, his responsibility will be to the Assistant
Pederal Reserve Agent and the Board of Governors.
When not engaged in the performance of his duties as Federal
Reserve Agent's Representative, Mr. Lease may, with the approval of the
Federal Reserve Agent and the Vice President in charge of the Denver
Branch, perform such work for the Branch as will not be inconsistent
with the duties as Federal Reserve Agent's Representative.
It will be appreciated if Mr. Lease is fully informed of the
imPortance of his responsibilities as a member of the staff of the
Pederal Reserve Agent and the need for maintenance of independence from
the operations of the Bank in the discharge of these responsibilities.
Please have Mr. Lease execute the usual Oath of Office,
which should then be forwarded to the Board of Governors along with
"tification of the effective date of his appointment.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

f

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No. 4
8/16/65
S-1966

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS

arriciAL

CORRESPONDENCE

TO THE BOARD

August 16, 1965.

Dear Sir:
coin shortage,
As part of the program adopted to combat the
Banks to
ve
Reser
the
asked
the Board's letter of August 13, 1964,
with
coin
lated
circu
mix
to
and
rebag coin received from the Mint
n of
nitio
recog
in
ly,
quent
Subse
new coin to the extent possible.
of
letter
's
Board
the
es,
the improvement in the supply of penni
reging
rebag
the
from
on
inati
March 15, 1965, exempted this denom
in
t
vemen
impro
great
a
been
quirement. More recently, there has
r
whethe
to
as
asked
been
have
the supply of nickels, and questions
their rebagging now serves any useful purpose.
Treasury-Federal
The Board has been informed that the joint
its meeting on
at
ng
feeli
a
Reserve Ad Hoc Coin Committee indicated
mixing of Mint
and
ging
rebag
y
July 21, 1965, that as a general polic
all Reserve
by
nued
conti
be
coin of a specific denomination should
is rationing such coin.
Banks and Branches as long as any one of them
Board's Division of
the
by
6
t
Replies to the inquiry made on Augus
Bank Operations show that there is-.••••••••

•=•••*....

ve Bank or Branch
(1) No rationing of nickels by any Reser
at the present time.
s during the next
(2) No foreseeable need to ration nickel
several months.
among the Reserve Banks as to the
(3) Uniform agreement
of nickels.
desirability of discontinuing the rebagging
the Board agrees that
In the light of these circumstances,
from the rebagging
ed
exempt
nickels, as well as pennies, should be
was raised about
ion
quest
that a
requirement. The Board understands

S-1966

-2-

the continuing need for further rebagging of any denomination of
COLA, but it feels that discontinuance at this time of the practice
of rebagging silver coin might be premature in the light of the
of such
uncertainties that now exist with respect to the supply
Coin.

Very truly yours,

41
c6:
;;:
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25
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

TO THE PRESIDENTS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS.

Item No. 5
8/16/65

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
•••
,D OV

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

• /'mk 00
1,

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

".tAi•
.••c''."••
•..REs
August 16, 1965.

Karl R. Bopp, Chairman,
Conference of Presidents,
Pederal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
hiladelphia, Pennsylvania.
19101
°ear Mr. Bopp:
Federal Reserve
The Board has been informed that the Treasury among the
variation
Ad u
the
about
concern
,17.- 4,0o Coin Committee expressed some
banks,
nonmember
from
orders
coin
ederal Reserve Banks with respect to
;
the
to
matter
this
bring
to
want
and suggested that the Board might
ttention of the Presidents' Conference.
the various
The Committee noted from the operating circulars of
from
direct
orders
coin
receive
erve Banks that some of them will
through
submitted
be
to
orders
11°4member banks while others require such
ember banks. The Committee felt that the latter practice is questionable
Red111 the light of the Sub-Treasury responsibilities transferred to the
Committee,
eral Reserve Banks by the Secretary of the Treasury. The
desirability
the
consider
to
s
;erefore,
suggested that the Board might want
of
circulars
cash
the
in
adopt,
asking the Presidents' Conference to
nonmember
from
orders
coin
covering
ne Reserve Banks, uniform paragraphs
auanks, with a view toward eliminating any provisions that discriminate
ainst such banks. It is understood that the Committee did not have in
411d any change with respect to absorption of shipping charges.
Res

j

about
The Board shares the concern of the Ad Hoc Committee
Conference
Presidents'
the
of
views
the
have
matter, and would like to
ka regard to it.

this

Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.
ee l

Mr. Lawrence C. Murdoch, Jr.,
Secretary,
Conference of Presidents.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 6
8/16/65

WAS

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

August 18, 1965.

The Honorable James J. Saxon,
Comptroller of the Currency,
Treasury Department,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Jim:
This refers to your letter of July 28, 1965, in response
to my letter of July 12, 1965.
I have noted your statement that "It is my understanding
that for many years, antedating my term as Comptroller of the Currency,
there has not been the flow of information from the Federal Reserve
Banks which would have been desired." My own understanding is exactly
the reverse. I can assure you that the practice at Reserve Banks has
12,
been and continues to be as I described it in my letter of July
1965:
when a national bank borrows from the Reserve
lties
Bank in circumstances reflecting possible difficu
ng—
borrowi
such
of
ood
likelih
a
es
indicat
r
of the bank--o
and fully informs
...the Federal Reserve Bank promptly
y; it counsels
Currenc
the
of
ller
Comptro
l
the Regiona
him
with him regarding the situation; and it keeps
not
include
fully apprised of developments. This would
but
Bank,
only changes in borrowings from the Reserve
also any other pertinent information coming to the
ncies in
knowledge of the Reserve Bank, such as deficie
Bank.
Reserve
the
at
the national bank's reserve account
s
receive
Bank
Reserve
a
In fact, any information that
a
of
ss
soundne
or
safety
significantly relating to the
l
Regiona
the
to
cated
national bank is promptly communi
or
whether
of
ess
regardl
Comptroller of the Currency
likelihood
not the national bank is borrowing or shows
Banks
Reserve
The
Bank,
of borrowing from the Reserve
and
day
day-tol
informa
close,
endeavor to do this on a
highly
be
to
believe
we
which
even hour-to -hour basis,
desirable."

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The Honorable James J. Saxon

You indicate that Regional Comptrollers were mistaken if
they felt, as the Reserve Banks found they apparently did, that they
were under recent constraints from Washington as to information they
could communicate to the Reserve Banks. I am sure it will greatly
facilitate communication of information to Reserve Banks if the
Regional Comptrollers clearly understand from you that they are to
communicate with the Reserve Banks as fully as I have indicated in the
above quotation from my July 12, 1965, letter that the Reserve Banks
communicate with them.
Since it is clear from your letter and from mine that it '
is the intention on both our parts to provide a simple, efficient
mechanism for the free and full interchange of information of mutual
interest, I suggest that we leave it to the Regional Comptrollers and
the Reserve Banks to work out these arrangements in the light of this
understanding. If any specific difficulties are encountered we can
both move quickly to emphasize further our joint position that there
should be no impediment whatsoever to free interchange.
I am glad to clarify the reference in my letter of July 12,
1965, regarding the furnishing to a Reserve Bank of copies it may
request of reports of examination of national banks given a composite
rating of 3 or 4--sometimes called "problem" banks. Reserve Banks
now purchase from you a copy of the report of the first examination
made of each national bank each calendar year. Since a bank's "problem"
status may first appear in an examination subsequent to the first one of
the year, it could be helpful if a Reserve Bank could be supplied promptly
With a copy of each report of examination of a bank in such condition.
been
However, Reserve Bank requests to purchase these reports have
reluctance
declined by Regional Comptrollers, apparently because of a
to identify to the Reserve Bank national banks the Regional Comptrollers
if you will
considered to be in that condition. We will appreciate it
requests.
authorize Regional Comptrollers to comply with such
While I hold the view that repurchase agreements and Federal
funds purchased should be treated as borrowing in Reports of Condition,
my letter of July 12, 1965, did not suggest how they be treated, but
only that information regarding them be included in the Report of
learned from
Condition and also communicated to the Reserve Banks if
funds
Federal
Other sources. As you know, information regarding
national
of
Condition
Purchased is already included in the Report of
I would
borrowing.
as
banks, even though not specifically designated
repurchase
regarding
urge that suitable information also be included
agreements.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Bill
Wm. McC, Martin, Jr.

Ti

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Item No. 7
8/16/65

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, O. C. 20551

AOOPC•11 OFFICIAL COARICSPONOCNCC
TO TUC BOARD

August 16, 1965.

Mr. George D. Royer, Jr., Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City,
64106
Kansas City, Missouri.
Dear Mr. Royer:
In accordance with the request contained in your letter of
August 11, 1965, the Board approves the designation of the following
employees as special assistant examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank
of Kansas City for the purpose of participating in the 1965 examination of Commerce Trust Company, Kansas City, Missouri:
Brown, Robert A.
Cable, Willard
Cahill, Robert
Carr, Gordon
Cockrell, Paul E.
Culbertson, W. E.
Curtis, E. J.
Czerwinski, H. R.
Dewey, Keith
Elliott, Jerry
Foley, Cecil
Fowks, William
Hain, W. M.
Hall, Tony
Hamilton, Dave
Hopper, Grady
Hughes, Wm. H.
Kelly, Michael

Kurek, Richard M.
LaRose, Sylvester
Miller, Larry
McCoy, Ronald
McKee, Hugh
Neville, William
Novak, Frank J.
Park, Dennis
Pope, Joseph M.
Rogers, Guy
Searle, Joseph
Shewmaker, Harold
Shreeves, Jerry
Shull, Keith
Slover, Don
Spurlock, John B.
Stanley, Billy R.
Swanson, Estus A.

Tindall, Keith
Trimble, Harry B.
Tuggle, Jesse E.
Walker, Lawrence
Wangler, Arthur
Werner, Darrell
Wilson, James N.
Wisniewski, Chester
Wray, Jack
Burns, Dorothy
Hirsch, Catherine
Hisey, Betty L.
Johnson, Aileen
Lynn, Mary
Norris, Dorothy M.
Smart, Dorothy J.

It is noted that these designations will be terminated immediately upon completion of the examination.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.