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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
''steni was held
in Washington on Tuesday, August 14/ 1945, at 10:30

PRESENT:

Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. Szymczak
Mr. Draper
Mr. Carpenter, Secretary
Mr. Morrill, Special Adviser
Mr. Thurston, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thomas, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Kennedy, Assistant Chief, Government
Securities Section

During the course of an informal discussion in the Conference
11°°111 this

morning of matters relating to Treasury financing policy,

tIttative arm/1g
aments were made over the telephone with Under Secret447 of
the
Treasury Bell for Messrs. Ransom and Thomas to see Secret47 of the
Treasury Vinson for a discussion of these matters. At
thi8 illeeting of the Board reference was made to that arrangement, and
thelse was
unanimous agreement that, during the conference with Secret417

Son,Mx'.

Ransom should say that the Board did not regard the

Illesti°11 Of eliminating the preferential discount rate as being closed
47 that it would
like to discuss the matter further with the Treasury
Elq, the
first
opportunity.
Secretary's Note: Later in the day Mr.
Ransom reported that he and Mr. Thomas
had seen Secretary Vinson and had stated
that the Board would like to renew the
dlscussion of the preferential discount
rate at the first opportunity and that
Mr. Vinson made no comment.




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-2Mr- Ransom then presented a letter addressed to Chairman Eccles

August 11, 1945, by Mr. Snyder, Director of War Mobilization and Rereading as follows:
."There has been established in this office a ReconYerelon Working Committee to advise and assist me on mattore
pertaining to reconversion. The committee will
.8tImu1ate the formulation of plans in the various execu7s.agencies concerned with reconversion and to assure
the i
ntegration of such plans. This committee will serve
:
8 a task group for
the committee of Agency Heads which
fleets with MB regularly.
t
"The development of coordinated plans and the mainpenance of a
critical review of planning and operational
i,ths°gress under approved programs is of the first importance
17_:
1 Meeting the difficult transitional problems ahead. In
:
e
n of current developments, this is of the highest urgency.
:
yol asking you therefore to appoint a Deputy to represent
ter; agency on the Reconversion Working Committee, to atlte meetings and to participate in its work. I ask
e:'84, the Deputy
be fully acquainted with the major policies
er operations
of your agency and that his authority be
asTtmeneurate with the importance of the tasks he may be
lisnl to perform as indicated in the attached order estab"lg the Reconversion Working Committee.
on u The first meeting of the committee will take place
L funi,,,
°11c1
4.aY, August 13 at 2:00 P.M. in Room 1143 of the
a
e ute
141'. Ransom stated that he had attended the meeting of the com44teeyesterday afternoon, that, in accordance with the decision reached
an itlf°
_411ingtaa

meeting of the members of the Board who were in

yesterday morning, he had stated at the meeting that Mr.

Nould serve as
the deputy to represent the Board on the Reconlrell Wor
Ilecoliversiorikiii:vhCo
ee, and that Mr. Nathan, Deputy Director for
presided at the meeting, asked for a report by Thursday
°I% t
111 Week from each of the agencies represented at the meeting cover-

activities

of the agencies which might be curtailed or terminated




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f141°wing the end of the war and the activities which should be continued and legislation that should be enacted as part of the immediate
aarts for

reconversion.

There was a discussion of the matters to be covered in the relacTt to be made on behalf of the Board, and there was agreement that
referenee
should be made to consumer credit under Regulation II, financing of war
production and war contract termination under Regulation V,
atici the iNagner-Spence bill amending section 13b of the Federal Reserve
Act.
Other matters referred to, on which there was not unanimous

IlDeement that they
should be included in the report, were regulation
"1° ns on
securities under Regulations T and U, broadening the capital
gaill8 tax
base, and steps to be taken to maintain stability in the Goveltkett s
ecurities market.
At the conclusion of the discussion,
it was understood (1) that drafts of statements covering these matters would be prepared by Messrs. Morrill, Thurston, and
Thomas,(2) that Mr. Carpenter would can
Messrs. McKee and Evans to ascertain if
they had any other topics to suggest for
inclusion in the report, and (3) that Mr.
Ransom would state to Mr. Vinson when he
saw him later in the day that the Board
might wish to discuss with him certain
statements that it might wish to make in
the report for the Reconversion Working
Committee with respect to System credit
Policy and its relation to the Government
securities market.
Secretary's Note: When Messrs. Ransom
and Thomas met with Mr. Vinson this




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afternoon Mr. Ransom made the statement
referred to above, and the Secretary re—
sponded that the Treasury representative
designated to attend the first meeting of
the Reconversion Working Committee on August
13 was out of the city and, therefore, was
unable to be present at the meeting, and
that any matters which Mr. Morrill as the
Board's representative on the committee
might wish to take up with the Treasury
Should be taken up with Under Secretary
Bell.

At this
point Messrs. Thomas and Kennedy withdrew from the
meeting.

after

The action
stated with respect to each of the matters herein—
referred
to was then taken by the Board.

Memoranda dated August 9, 1945, from Mr. Paulger, Director
°II the
50
1"-L i n of Examinations, recommending that the basic annual
ealari
es of the following employees be increased, as indicated:
„tame

Title

1Cenrieth A.
Kenyon
Ro
bert,
11111.L.
1141 PiPer
Drake

Assistant Federal
Reserve Examiner
Messenger
Messenger

Salary Increased
To
From

$3,420

$3,60

1,770
1,836

1,836
1,902

Approved unanimously, effective Au—
gust 26, 1945.
Memorandum dated August 13, 1945, from Mr. Bethea, Director
the D.
(44
171810n of Administrative Services, submitting the resignation
bi °1"1 Lee 'ha 'ck, Jr., Operator, Duplicating Devices, in that
11431/3 and recommending that the resignation be accepted effective




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as Of the close of business August 25, 1945, with the understanding
that the
Board will be reimbursed for the amount of any overdrawn
leave,

The resignation was accepted as recommended.
Letter prepared for the signature of Vice Chairman Ransom to
At.

Johnson, Director of the Office of Defense Transportation,

1741,1D.

reading as follows:

10_,"As Mr. Eccles will not return from Utah until next
I am acknowledging your letter of August 7 contain,
11g the rather startling estimate that Government transL'i3rtation requests on a not unusual day amounted to the
443vement in and out of Washington of about ten trainloads.
ow, "I was relieved, therefore, to note that, like your
dateOffice, this Board had but one such request on that
'this being for Mr. Robert Triffin, an economist on
G11/. staff, who
is en route to the Dominican Republic and
e.,a.,
!Tale-.
t
Officials of both Republics had requested his
bj-ru assistance in helping them to prepare programs for
co ing and monetary reorganization in their respective
"trles- These missions have had the endorsement of
oll" State
Department and were authorized by this Board
theY are manifestly of importance in our relationOn this
continent."
Approved unanimously.
Let
ter to Mr. M. W. Harriss, President of the National Bank of
Ord, s

anford, North Carolina, reading as follows:
'11With your letter of July 2 you sent us a copy of
-ketter of the same date to the Comptroller of the
by '
ltielneY in regard to the competitive situation created
,.,alosorption of exchange charges by some banks.
ed.ile agree with you that the problem would be solved
toarcil ,
-Y if all banks were on the par list, and the
Governors is strongly in favor of par clearance.




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"However,
its jurisdiction in this respect is confined
to member banks and although Congress, by legislation
enacted in 1917, has required par clearance of checks to
the
extent that they are collected through the Federal
Reserve Banks, it has not seen fit to extend that policy
t° all insured banks. On the other hand, in the majority
Of States, all or nearly all banks are on the par list
and within the past couple of years Iowa and Nebraska have
adopted
legislation requiring par clearance. In many other
States the number of nonpar banks is declining and at the
Present time,
although the number of nonpar banks still
s large, the amount of commercial deposits in such
"
41 is
States. less than 2% of the aggregate for the United

Z

"We
Of such realize, however, that there is a concentration
banks in the area with which you are mainly contrned and the difficulty created by that condition in
South was recognized in the conferences which were
held
the past Spring prior to the issuance of the
tl:Tu's letter of June 22, 1945. Nevertheless, the fact
0;a-c, there was
such a problem did not relieve the Board
to its responsibility for the enforcement of the law as
4._ member
banks and its letter, therefore, was designed
ieet the demand on the part of member banks for two
a."41/g8: first, a definition of trivial items and, second,
r,eiTiform date after which all member banks would be extd t0 cease
the absorption of exchange charges, except
vaer?. only trivial items were involved. The Board's letter
pointrLeonformity with the suggestions made to it on these

V

cia ."In all the circumstances, it has been hoped that the
obsrlfication of the Board's position and the conscientious
to:
147ance by member banks of the requirement of the law,
121.-'ner
4
with the general trend toward par clearance, would
thinsg about the
solution, which we all earnestly desire, of
we kailongstanding problem. There is no method, so far as
of e,°w: by which this problem may be solved by the exercise
ter
;
Isting war emergency powers, as suggested in your let-

Approved unanimously.
Itle

Let
ter to Mr. Clarence C. Keesey, Schenley, Pennsylvania, readf°1-lows:




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"Reference is made to your recent letter relating
to the
Board's margin rules, including the postscript.
The letter
describes the position of your margin account
4r2d indicates that you would like to switch out of one
86ock and into another without putting up the additional
raargin required by the Board's rules. The postscript
asks whether
there is any remedy to be obtained.
"You will have noted that, even though a customer's
a
ll-°?unt is undermargined by the new 75 per cent standard,
,
e 18 not required to bring his margin up to that standard.
rnsequently, he is permitted to carry a given position
1,1retl though he is
using more credit than he could get if
ae were just opening the account. To that extent, he has
advantage
over anyone who might wish to buy and hold
the
o sme stocks on margin but who has waited until now
take a position. In your own case, that advantage ap—
pears to be
substantial.
be, iTe call this aspect of the matter to your attention
betlse it will suggest that the new rules, instead of
ti:" unfair to persons in your own situation, are rela—
beve-V favorable to them. Another consideration that should
th °f interest to you is that in a declining market, even
bj
.ugh
ow it should have the effect of reducing your margin
cp4
the 50 per cent level, the Board's rules do not re—
broker to ca11 upon you to make up the reduction.
spe
An important purpose of the new rules is to restrain
strelation in stocks on credit, at a time when such re—
th4a
'
llit appears to be in the general public interest. If
should help in the long run to stabilize the market,
should be of benefit to almost everybody.
i40111:lie, hope that this presentation of our viewpoint will
chati ate wily we do not see at this time adequate reason for
g the rules to which you raise objection."
Approved unanimously.
Letter
to Mr. L. E. Shuck, L. E. Shuck Realty Co., Los Angeles,
OkItt
orro
reading as follows:
"We
acknowledge receipt of your letter of August 9.
f rom the figures given in your letter it is clear
that '
ace Zur margin account is at present an undermargyled
asv:;L:Z. Trading in such an account is restricted in
'ways, some of which you mention, in the belief




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that at the present time there should be no buying of
securities -- either in an old account or in a new one -on a basis of less than 75 per cent margin. You will
fate, however,
that the rules favor the undermargined
account in that they do not require the account to be
arglned up to the new standard except in case the cus—
(14er wishes to do some buying in the account.
, "Vie accordingly invite your attention to the fact
4L:hat the
holder of an undermargined account is permitted
?
4 carry
securities on a credit basis that is more liberal
V_An that prescribed for other customers. Using the figures
Your letter, for example, it would appear that in order
2,take a long position in $14,000 worth of securities,
u ller Present rules, a customer depositing his margin in
..'
,.8:sh would have
to put up, not the amount which you have
Juurself deposited ($8,200), but a considerably larger
6.01nt ($10,500)."

T

V




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Vice Chairman.