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773 1/ A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System was held in Washington on Wednesday, April 8, 1936, at 11:30 a. m. PRESENT: Mr. Broderick, Chairman pro tern Mr. McKee Mr. Ransom Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Morrill, Secretary Bethea, Assistant Secretary Carpenter, Assistant Secretary Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman Consideration was given to each of the matters hereinafter reis"red to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the Board: Letter to Mr. Preston, First Vice President of the Federal ReBerlre Bank of Chicago, reading as follows: "Referring to your letter of March 31, 1956, the Board approves the temporary employment of electricians ic gtr with the installation of your air conicl iltaT stem at the prevailing union rate which, on an annual basis, is about $200 in excess of the maximum Salary provided for electricians in the personnel classification plan." Approved unanimously. Letter to the board of directors of "The Charlevoix County State 844k", Charlevoix, Michigan, stating that, subject to the conditions of raerthership numbered 1 to 5 contained in the Board's Regulation "H", and the folloting special conditions, the Board approved the bank's application, lor membership in the Federal Reserve System and for the appropriate 4111°144 of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago: "4. Such bank shall make adequate provision for depreciation in its banking house. (74 4/8/36 As soon as practicable, and in any event Tithin one year from the date of admission to membership, such bank shall reduce all loans which are in excess of the limits prescribed by the laws of the State of Michigan to amounts Titbin such limits. As soon as practicable, such bank, if it has not already done so, shall stamp in legible form on each certificate of stock of the bank outstanding and not pledged with the trustees for the benefit of the waiving depositors, and, so long as the agreement is in force, shall stamp on any other certificates of stock which, by reason of transfer or otherwise, may subsequently be outstanding and unpledged with the trustees for the waiving depositors, a legend reading substantiafly as follows: 'All earnings available for dividends on the stock represented by this certificate have been waived for a period in favor of the trustees for the waiving depositors of the Charlevoix County Bank in accordance rith the terms of the creditors' agreement of such bank, a copy of which is on file with The Charlevoix County State Bankl." Approved unanimously, for transmission to the bank through the Federal Reserve Agent's office at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. Letter to Mr. Curtiss, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Feserve Bank of Boston, prepared at the request of Mr. Ransom pursuant to action taken at the meeting on March 10, 1936, and reading as follows: "This refers to your letter of December 5, 1935, with further reference to the following condition of membership Which The Southington Bank and Trust Company, Southington, eonnecticut, is subject: 'If trust funds held by such bank are deposited in its banking department or otherwise used in the conduct of its business, it shall deposit with its trust department security in the same manner and to the same extent as is required of national banks exercising fiduciary powers.' "You have advised that, under the laws of the State of CO nnecticut, The Southington Bank and Trust Company is not 775 4/8/56 "authorized to deposit collateral in its trust department to secure trust funds deposited in its banking department and have submitted a request of The Southington Bank and Trust Company that the requirements of the condition of membership be waived to the extent that trust funds deposited in the banking department of that institution are insured under the provisions of section 12B of the Federal Reserve Act. "The Board has given consideration to the circumstances involved in the request of The Southington Bank and Trust Company but does not feel that it should grant that request at this time. However, the entire matter is being given further careful consideration. Please advise the trust company accordingly." Approved unanimously. In connection with the above matter there was also presented a letter to Mr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows: "It has been the practice of the Board for some time to prescribe for State banking institutions applying for membership in the Federal Reserve System the following condition of membership: 'If trust funds held by such bank are deposited in its banking department or otherwise used in the conduct of its business, it shall deposit with its trust department security in the same manner and to the same extent as is reauired of national banks exercising fiduciary powers.' "A member State banking institution subject to such a condition has advised the Board that, under the laws of the State in which it is located, it is not authorized to dePosit collateral in its trust department to secure trust funds deposited in its banking department, and has requested that it be exempted from the requirement of the condition of membersip to the extent that trust funds deposited in its banking department are insured under the provisions of section 12B of the Federal Reserve Act. "Section 12B(h)(9) of the Federal Reserve Act provides in part that 'Trust funds held by an insured bank in a fiduciary capacity whether held in its trust or deposited in allY other department *** shall be insured in an amount not to !xceed g5,000 for each trust estate ***'. Therefore, the board has given consideration to the question whether it should 776 I/ 1 -4-- 44"6 exempt the member State banking institution which has made the request and also other member State banking institutions subject to the condition quoted above from the requirement of that condition to the extent that trust funds deposited in the banking departments of such institutions are insured under the provisions of section 12B of the Federal Reserve Act. It would seem that, if such an exemption is made as to member State banking institutions subject to the condition, section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act should be amended so as to make a corresponding exemption applicable to national banks exercising fiduciary powers. "The Board will appreciate your consideration of the general question involved. The matter has been referred by the Board to Mr. Ransom for consideration, and he would like to discuss the matter with you. "For your information, there are inclosed copies of correspondence out of which the request for the exemption above referred to arose, and a copy of that part of a memorandum Prepared by an Assistant General Counsel of the Board which discusses the problem involved. The previous correspondence referred to in the inclosed copy of the letter from the Board's Assistant Secretary to Mr. Curtiss of October 8, 1935, does not liave a bearing on the question here involved and, therefore,rcopies of such previous correspondence are not inclosed." Approved unanimously, together with a letter to Mr. Merrell P. Callaway, President, Trust Division, The American Bankers Association, New York, New York, reading as follows: "It is the practice of the Board to prescribe for State 4 _ lang institutions exercising fiduciary powers and apply"""g for membership in the Federal Reserve System the following condition of membership: 'If trust funds held by such bank are deposited In its banking, department or otherwise used in the conduct of its business, it shall deposit with its trust department security in the same manner and to the same extent as is required of national banks exercising fiduciary powers.' "A State banking institution which is subject to such condition and which is located in a State the laws of which do n°t permit it to deposit collateral in its trust department to secure trust funds deposited in its banking department has requested that the requirement of the condition of membership be waived to the extent that trust funds deposited in its banking 777 4/8/36 naepartment are insured under the provisions of section 12B Of the Federal Reserve Act. Section 12B(h)(9) of the Fed— eral Reserve Act provides in part that 'Trust funds held by an insured bank in a fiduciary capacity whether held in its trust or deposited in any other department *** shall be in— sured in an amount not to exceed $5,000 for each trust estate **""The Beard has been giving consideration to the question Whether it should exempt the member State banking institution Which has made the request and also other member State bank— ing institutions subject to the condition quoted above from the requirement of that condition to the extent that trust funds deposited in the banking departments of such institutions are insured under the provisions of section 12B. If such an exemption should be made as to member State banking institu— tions subject to the condition, it would seem that section 1-(k) of the Federal Reserve Act relating to the exercise of fiduciary powers by national banks should be amended so as to make a corresponding exemption applicable to national banks exercising fiduciary powers. "The Board will appreciate advice as to the views of the Trust Division of the American Bankers Association on the general question involved. The matter has been referred by the Board to Mr. Ronald Ransom for consideration, and if you or other representatives of the Trust Division should desire to discuss the entire matter before submitting definite advice as to your viers, Mr. Ransom will be glad to confer with you at a time which is mutually convenient. "For your information, there are inclosed copies of cor— respondence out of which the request,for the exemption above referred to arose, and a copy of that part of a memorandum Prepared by an Assistant General Counsel of the Board which discusses the problem involved. The previous correspondence Bred to in the inclosed copy of the letter from the I]osrd's Assistant Secretary to Mr. Curtiss of October 8, 1935, ?oes not have a bearing on the question here involved and, therefore, copies of such previous correspondence are not in— Letter to Mr. Young, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the Fed— ‘Ti eral T, aeserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows: "This refers to the application of 'The Citizens National Bank of Marshfield', Marshfield, Wisconsin, for Permission to exercise fiduciary powers under the pro— visions of section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act. After 778 4,8,36 ii -6- careful consideration and discussion of the information submitted to it with regard to this application, the Board has decided to defer taking any action on the applicetion at this time. "In its consideration of the application, it was not apparent to the Board that the bank has available a auffioiently well trained and experienced trust officer. The gentleman who has been selected as trust officer has had only a limited experience in the administration of trusts as an assistant trust officer with The American National Bank of Marshfield, and it is not clear to what extent he participated in the administration of the trust department of that bank or the extent to which he is responsible for the policies and activities of that department. In this connection, your office has recommended that the bank be granted authority to act only in the court trusts of executor, administrator and guardian Of estates, which would indicate that you feel that the trust department will not be equipped to administer trusts except under the safeguard of supervision by a court. "The Board has noted that, while a letter from the institution to you seems to stress the probable earnings from trust business rather than service to the community, Jour trust examiner has stpted that the prospective business is ethereal and not immediate and that the bank hopes at some future time to have trust business through wills. These statements would not indicate that the bank contemtt te:n;he building up of an active trust department or substantial volume of trust business can be developed by the bank at the present time. While it appears that The Citizens National Bank of Marshfield is at this time the only bank in Marshfield, which has a population ?f something over 8,000 inhabitants, it also appears that the institution 's predecessor, The American National Bank °f Marshfield, had developed a trust department with total assets amounting only to approximately Z200,000 at the time 2f its closing in June 1933, although it had been granted Lirust powers in 1926. It is stated in the information submitted to the Board that reasonable profits resulted to The American National Bank of Marshfield from the operation of l.ts trust department, but the amount of such profits from Ihe time of the opening of the trust department ofthat bank 60 the time of its closing and the basis of the computation °f the profits are not stated. , "Unless information is submitted which would overcome 4 "e unfavorable aspects indicated by the facts referred to ab°17e, the Board does not feel that it would be warranted 779 -7"in taking favorable action on the application of The Citizens National Bank of Marshfield, and you are requested to advise the bank accordingly." Approved unanimously, together with a letter to Mr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows: "There is inclosed herewith for your information a Copy of a letter which the Board has addressed to the Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago with regard to the application of The Citizens National Bank of Marshfield, Marshfield, Wisconsin, for permission to exercise fiduciary powers under the provisions of section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act. The Board will be glad to receive any information or comments having a bearing on the application of The Citizens National Bank of Marshfield which you may feel it is desirable to submit in view of all the circumstances involved after the next examination of that bank. Mr. Ransom has advised me that he has mentioned this application to you, has discussed it over the telephone with Mr. Folger, and in person with Mr. Wilson." Letter to Mr. Raymond Bill, President, National Conference of Business Paper Editors, New York, New York, reading as follows: "Your letter of February 270 1936, addressed to Governor Szymczak with respect to direct loans to industry has been read with much interest by members of the Board. "The Board is interested in the conclusions set forth in your letter and is desirous of doing whatever it Can to bring to the attention of commercial and industrial enterprises which have been unable to obtain needed working capital funds from usual sources, the facilities which Congress has authorized the Federal Reserve banks to make available to them and, as you are aware, has on a number of Occasions asked the Federal Reserve banks to do what they can to bring to the attention of prospective borrowers the possibility of obtaining accommodation at the Federal Reserve banks. You are also aware that the Board feels that wherever Practicable such accommodation should be extended through local banking institutions under commitments from or in 12art1cipation with the Federal Reserve banks. In furthering 'his program the Board has asked the Federal Reserve banks to communicate with financing institutions in their districts 780 4/8/36 -8- "urging such institutions to bring to the attention of the Federal Reserve banks any instances where worthy enterprises in need of working capital have been unable to obtain it. The most recent letter of the Board asking the Federal Reserve banks to send out such communications was dated January 41 1956. "With respect to the survey which you suggest be made, preliminary survey of the probable demands for working capital loans was made prior to the enactment of Section 13b of the Federal Reserve Act, and something over a year ago such a survey was made for the Subcommittee on Small Industries of the Business Advisory and Planning Council for the Department of Commerce, reference to which was made in your letter. The initial survey brought forth information which proved to be quite unreliable, and the conclusions contained in the report of the survey conducted for the Business Advisory and Planning Council did not prove helpful. The Viner-Hardy report on the Availability of Bank Credit in the Seventh Federal Reserve District, which was based for the most part upon data obtained through personal interviews With applicants for loans, concluded that in terms of the existing law the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago was doing efficient work in administering the provisions of Section 13b. "It is realized, of course, that the questionnaire You propose to send out is in such form as to bring in a substantial amount of valuable information. Even with ansters to such questions, however, it would be very difficult to draw worthwhile conclusions for the reason that information given by prospective borrowers is usually highly colored and greatly exaggerates the possibility of making Sound loans. As an instance of this kind we have before us now a case in which the applicant for an industrial loan stated that his loan application had been disapproved by the Federal Reserve bank notwithstanding the fact that he offered collateral ten times the amount of the loan requested. On a preliminary examination it looked as if the loan could be "lade, but upon checking into the collateral offered it was Iound that it was neither adequate nor desirable and that the Federal Reserve bank could not make the loan on a sound and reasonable basis as required by law. "Such information as has come to the Board indicates that in most cases small enterprises which are in need of additional funds to operate their business need fixed capital ather than working capital, and, as you know, the Federal "eserve banks are not authorized to make loans to commercial and industrial enterprises for the purpose of supplying l 781 -9"capital funds as distinguished from working capital funds. In view of the above, the Board does not believe it desirable for it to sponsor a survey of the kind you suggest at this time. In case, however, you or any of your associates in the National Conference of Business Paper Editors know of any particular instances in which you feel that a Federal Reserve bank can be helpful by extending credit under the provisions of Section 13b, or if any such instances hereafter come to your attention the Board will greatly appreciate your bringing such cases to its attention." Approved unanimously. Memorandum dated April 4, 1936, from Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank Operations, stating that informal advice had been received that the office of the Comptroller of the Currency was amending the form of semi-annual report of earnings and dividends of national banks so as to provide for reporting separately the amount of (1) rent received on banking house and other real estate, (2) fees paid to directors and members of executive, discount, and advisory committees, and (3) real estate taxes, and recommending that the Board authorize the same changes to be made in its Form 107, Report of Earnings and kvidends of State Member Banks. Approved unanimously. Letter to Mr. Case, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve nk of New York, reading as follows: "Reference is made to your letter of February 28, 1936, requesting the opinion of the Board as to whether exception numbered (5) of section 8 of the Clayton Act, as amended, is applicable to the proposed services of Mr. Charles A. Luce, Amityville, Ner York, as vice president of The First National Bank of Lindenhurst, Lindenhurst, New York, while serving at the same time as director of 782 4/8/36 —10— "that bank and as director and officer of First National Bank and Trust Company of Amityville, Amityville, New York. "It is noted from your letter that the towns of Amityville and Lindenhurst are separate and distinct villages, that their corporate limits at the nearest point are approximately one mile apart, that an unincorporated Part of the town of Babylon, known as Copiague, is situated between them, and that you have no reason to believe that any substantial conflict of competitive interest exists between the banks situated in the two villages, in view of Which it is your opinion, concurred in by counsel for your bank, that these towns are not 'contiguous or adjacent' Within the meaning of those terms as set forth in footnote numbered (8) of the Board's revised Regulation L, effective January 41 1936. "In the circumstances, the Board sees no reason to differ from the conclusions reached by you and your counsel in this matter; accordingly, it appears that the proposed services of Mr. Luce as vice president of The First National Bank of Lindenhurst, Lindenhurst, New York, while serving at the same time as director of that bank and as director and officer of First National Bank and Trust Company of Amityville, Amityville, New York, come within exception numbered (5) of section 8 of the Clayton Act, as amended." Approved unanimously. Thereupon the meeting adjourned. )Thi (7 Secretary. APPI'oved: /7 ) (") (/ /4-- (./LA (4/L „Chairman pro tem.