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Minutes for April 6, 1959.

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard
to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will
advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, if you
were present at the meeting, please initial in
column A below to indicate that you approve the
minutes. If you were not present, please initial
in column B below to indicate that you have seen
the minutes.
A
Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, April
PRESENT:

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

6, 1959.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak 1/
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Discount rates.

Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Molony, Special Assistant to the Board
Noyes, Adviser, Division of Research
and Statistics
Solomon, Assistant General Counsel
Hostrup, Assistant Director, Division
of Examinations
Benner, Assistant Director, Division
of Examinations
Hill, Assistant to the Secretary
Brill, Chief, Capital Markets Section,
Division of Research and Statistics

The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Banks of New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago on April 2, 1959,
of the rates on discounts and advances in their existing schedules was

tz_EaKIE1 unanimously,

with the understanding that appropriate advice

lqould be sent to those Banks.
Amendments to Regulations T and U.

There had been distributed

to the Board a memorandum from Governor Robertson dated April 3, 1959,
regarding a telephone request from President Livingston of the Federal
y
Advisory Council for a delay in the final promulgation of the recentl

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Withdrew from meeting at point indicated in minutes.




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published proposed amendments to Regulations T and U until after the
meeting of the Council with the Board on April 28, 1959.

Mr. Livingston

had expressed doubt Whether it would be possible for the Council to meet
before April 28 and indicated that this matter was considered sufficiently
important to warrant consideration at a meeting of the Board and the
Council.
During a discussion of the request, the view was expressed by
e°me of the members of the Board that it would not be desirable to commit

the Board to a delay in taking action on the proposed amendments until
after April 28.

As an alternative, it was suggested that if it were

not possible for the Council as a Whole to meet with the Board prior
to that date, perhaps the executive committee might arrange to come to
Washington some time next week, while other members of the Council could
submit their comments in writing.

Another alternative might be to advise

the Council that the Board's staff would proceed to analyze the comments
received from all sources and that the results would be discussed at

the meeting on April 28 if the Board had not taken action on the amendments
Prior to that date.
In light of the various views expressed, Governor Robertson
suggested explaining to Mr. Livingston that the Board had refused to
grant a deferment of the April

6

deadline for submission of comments

and therefore deemed it unwise to depart from that general position
even in this instance.




He also suggested saying that although the Board

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felt obliged to decline to commit itself to delay final action until
April 28, it would assume that the comments of individual members of
the Council not already in hand would be received shortly, and that in
any event such suggestions as the Council might wish to present on
April 28 would be welcome for the purpose of the Board's continuing
consideration of the regulations.

Should the conversation with Mr.

Livingston make it seem appropriate to refer to the possibility of a
meeting of the Board with a committee of the Council, Mr. Livingston
mould be advised that such a meeting on April 13 or 15 would be agreeable
to the Board.
There was agreement that the response should be along the lines
suggested, and Governor Robertson was requested to talk with Mr. Livingston
on that basis.
It was agreed that the Federal Reserve Banks should be requested
by

telegram to forward promptly and without analysis all comments that

had been received by them with respect to the proposed amendments to
Regulations T and U.
Messrs. Thomas and Brill then withdrew from the meeting.
Section 4(0(6) oral arguments.

Pursuant to the understanding

at the meeting on March 26, 1959, arrangements had been made for the
h°2-ding of oral argument at the Board's offices on May 11, 1959, with
IsesPect to the requests of First Bank Stock Corporation, Northwest
lan oorporation, and Bank Shares Incorporated for determinations under




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section !(c
4(c)(6)
)(6) of the Bank Holding Company Act. In addition, Otto
Bremer Company had been invited to join in the oral argument.

In a

memorandum dated April 2, 1959, Which had been distributed to the Board,
Mr. Solomon advised that counsel for First Bank Stock, Northwest, and
Bank Shares were understood to desire an interchange of the hearing
examiners, reports and recommended decisions in their respective cases
as veil as the Otto Bremer case, and the memorandum indicated that there
seemed no reason to object to such a request.
Mr. Solomon stated that advice had now been received that Otto
Bremer Company did not wish to join in the oral argument on May 11.

He

Proposed sending a letter to that company inviting the submission of
a brief, advising that copies of the report and recommended decision

in its case were being sent to the other three holding companies, and
enclosing copies of the reports and recommended decisions in the other
cases.
Agreement

was expressed with the procedure outlined by Mr.

Solomon and it was understood that appropriate letters would be sent
tO the

respective bank holding companies.
Mr. Noyes then withdrew from the meeting.
First Lank Stock hearing

(Item No. 1). There had been distributed

to the Board a memorandum from Mr. Solomon dated April 2, 1959, raising
a gileation, in connection with the hearing to be held in Minneapolis
Ti April

7, 1959, concerning the application of First Bank Stock Corpo-

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whether the record in a public hearing, such as ordered in this case,
was available for public inspection.

Also involved was the question

Of availability of the application for inspection by opposing parties
Prior to the hearing.

Hillcrest State Bank of St. Paul had asked to

testify at the hearing, had stated that it mould like to examine a
summary of First Bank Stock's presentation, and had been told by the
Hearing Officer that a copy of the application could be examined at
the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.

As a matter of courtesy,

Counsel for the Reserve Bank had advised Counsel for First Bank Stock
that it proposed to make the material available.

However, the latter

expressed objection on the grounds that, while the Board's order
Provided for a "public hearing", this did not contemplate that the
record mould be made available for examination by the public and the
ecWing of excerpts.

Previously, the Reserve Bank had told the Secretary

Of the Independent Bankers Association, who was to testify at the
hearing, that a contract forming a part of the application was not
available for inspection.
Mr. Solomon stated that, in view of the specific request, the
141nneapolis Reserve Bank hoped to be able to give an answer prior to
the beginning of the hearing tomorrow.

He then distributed a draft

Of telegram
to the Reserve Bank indicating that the intention of the
B°ard ts order was to make the application available for public inspection.




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-6Governor Mills noted that the application papers included the

aforementioned contract between First Bank Stock Corporation and Minnesota
Mining and Manufacturing Company and raised the question whether this
would constitute disclosure of information properly held confidential,
to which Mr. Solomon responded in terms that the contract did not appear
to contain anything of a startling nature and that it was one of the
items Hillcrest would like to examine.
Mr. Hackley suggested that the question be looked at from the
Point of view of the most effective discharge of the Board's responsibilities under the law.

The purpose of a hearing was to assemble all

Of the facts regarding a proposed transaction and give objecting parties
an oPportunity to present their views and arguments.

Therefore, it

Would seem desirable to make available to an objecting party all of the
information in the record that might have a bearing on his objections.
After expressing doubt that the application of First Bank Stock contained
anything of a more confidential character than the application of the
First New York Corporation, which had been made available for inspection,

he said it would seem appropriate to start with the presumption that
the whole application in a case of this kind should be made a part of
the public record.
After Governor Robertson expressed agreement with the view
stated by Mr. Hackley, Governor Shepardson returned to the question of

the contract that was included in the First Bank Stock application and




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inquired whether it had enough bearing on the situation to be an
aPPropriate part of the disclosed information.

In reply, Mr. Solomon

said one might argue that it was not absolutely imperative to make the
contract a part of the public record in order to tell the whole story,
but the contract seemed to be a fairly relevant part of the entire
Picture.

In this connection, he noted that certain items received in

evidence under seal in the Firstamerica case were of quite a different

Character, having to do with such things as management succession plans

and bank borrowings. Governor Shepardson then expressed agreement
with the view that the contract was a part of the record in the First
Bank Stock case that should be made available for public inspection.
At this point Governor Szymczak withdrew from the meeting to

keep an appointment. Before leaving, however, he informed the Chair
his view that the application of First Bank Stock should be made
available for inspection to the parties who had requested to see it.
In response to a question by Governor King as to whether it
l ight be desirable to make clear to all bank holding companies that
aPPlications filed by them were subject to the possibility of being
made Public, in order that such companies might be guided accordingly

14 the future, Mr. Hackley said the companies in effect were on notice
that a public hearing might be held on any application. When filing




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an application, a bank holding company in effect was aware that everything in the application might at some time become part of the record
in a public hearing.
Governor Mills then stated that he would wish to dissent from
a decision to authorize an application such as that of First Bank Stock
to be made available for public inspection until such time as information
vas obtained regarding the practice of other Government agencies confronted with a similar problem.

After noting that certain members of

Congress had proposed legislation whereby hearings would have to be
held on applications by banks to enter into transactions such as the
establishment of branches, he said that he found it difficult to distinguish
between applications for expansion by State member banks, which are
handled in strict confidence, and applications for expansion through
the holding company device, where, as in this case, the whole record
might be thrown open to the public.
After further discussion, it was agreed, Governor Mills dissenting,
to advise the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis that it was the intent
the Board's order for hearing in the First Bank Stock case to make
both the
application and the hearing record available for public inspection.
This action was taken with the understanding, in the light of Governor
Mills t comments, that the Legal Division would check with appropriate




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agencies of the Government regarding their practices and bring the
general subject back to the Board for further consideration if the
information received in response to such inquiries should warrant.
A copy of the telegram sent to the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis pursuant to the action taken by the Board is attached as
Item No. 1.
Secretary's Note: The Secretary's Office
subsequently was informed by the Legal
Division that telephone inquiries had been
made of several administrative agencies
regarding this question, including the
Interstate Commerce Commission, Federal
Communications Commission, Federal Power
Commission, Securities and Exchange
Commission, and Civil. Aeronautics Board.
These inquiries indicated that (1) applications for licenses are usually made
public by these agencies; (2) portions of
the application may be treated in confidence
in the discretion of the agency; (3) such
confidential treatment usually is given only
pursuant to specific statute or rule of the
agency; and (4) confidential treatment
ordinarily is granted only in fairly unusual
situations, for example, when information
has intrinsic value such as chemical formulas,
results of test borings in oil explorations,
etc.
Mr. Hostrup then withdrew from the meeting.
Possible violation of Regulation U (Item No. 2).

Pursuant

t° the understanding at the meeting on March 30, 1959, there had been
distributed to the Board a revised draft of reply to a letter from the
C°mPtroller of the Currency dated March 11, 1959 -regarding a possible




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violation of Regulation U encountered in a recent examination of the
Meadow Brook National Bank of Nassau County, West Hempstead, New York.
It was suggested and agreed that the last paragraph of the draft,
14hich invited comment on the adequacy of the currently proposed amendments
to Regulation U to deal with a case of this kind, be deleted since the
CoMptroller had already advised that he had no comments on the proposed
amendments and the deadline for submission of comments expired today.
Accordingly, unanimous approval was given to a letter to the
Comptroller in the form attached as Item No. 2.
Mr. Molony then withdrew from the meeting.
State legislation

(Item No. 3).

With a memorandum from Mr.

Rackley dated April 2, 1959, there had been distributed to the Board
a draft of reply to a letter from the Budget Bureau inquiring Whether
the Board
desired to submit any proposals for State legislation that
might be considered by a committee of the Council of State Governments
for presentation to State legislatures in 1960.

The proposed reply

stated that the Board had no such proposals.
Mr. Hackley noted that the Bank Management Commission of the
Ainarican Bankers Association had been working with the System Subcommittee on Collections in the preparation of a model State statute
14hich would have the effect of eliminating the necessity for protest
°II most checks.




He added that after the proposed statute had been

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submitted to the Board, the Board might wish to consider recommending
it to the Bureau of the Budget for consideration by the Council of
State Governments.
Unanimous approval then was given to the proposed letter to the
Bureau of the Budget, a copy of Which is attached as Item No. 3.
Mr. Benner then withdrew from the meeting.
Arrangements for meeting with Mr. Friedman.

With reference

to the
understanding at the meeting on March 23, 1959, regarding the
handling of a request by Mr. Sidney Friedman to visit the Board's offices
to discuss
the applicability of the Clayton Act to his service as a
director of both the Meadow Brook National Bank of Nassau County and

the Commercial Bank of North America, New York City, the Secretary
reported that it had been learned in a conversation with Mr. Friedman

that he had in mind for the present only a discussion at the staff
level, or possibly with a single Board member.

The impression had been

gained that Mr. Friedman was not prepared to make a presentation to

the Board as a Whole at this time, and April 16 had been suggested as
a possible
date for his visit.
There was agreement with the view expressed by Governor Mills

that in the circumstances the meeting should be held at the staff level.
The meeting then adjourned.




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-12Secretary's Notes: On April 3, 1959,
Governor Shepardson approved on behalf
of the Board the following items:

Memoranda from appropriate individuals concerned recommending
the following actions affecting the Board's staff:
Transfers

effective April 5

1950

Davita C. Leister, from the position of Secretary in the Division
Of Research and Statistics to the position of Secretary in the Division
Of Bank
Operations, with no change in her basic annual salary at the
rate of $4,190.
Harriet Dee Litoff, from the position of Clerk-Stenographer
in the Division of Personnel Administration to the position of ClerkStenographer
in the Division of Research and Statistics, with no change
in her basic annual salary at the rate of $3,850.
Transfer and salary increase
Harry G. Felix, from the position of Assistant Federal Reserve
E aminer in the Division of Examinations to the position of Budget and
lanning Assistant, Office of the Controller, with an increase in his
!
'asio annual salary from $5,985 to $6,285, effective April 12, 1959.
SalarY increase
Robert F. Gemmill, Economist, Division of International Finance,
°111. $8,810 to $9,890 per annum, effective April 5, 1959.
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fl

AceePtance of resignation
Georgine Winslett, Clerk-Typist, Division of Research and
Sta
tistics, effective April 3, 1959.
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (attached Item
approving the reappointment of Roger E. Titus, Jr., as assistant
xaminer.

No. 4

Memorandum from the Division of Personnel Administration dated
APril
- J, 1959, recommending the execution of a Certificate of Availability
ijiating that if Edward Cross, Operator, Offset Press, (Multilith),
c_ nsion of Administrative Services, and a member of the District of
-1-1.1mbia Air National Guard, should be ordered to active service in the




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Air Force of the United States during a period of mobilization, the
Board would not request a delay in his entry on active duty. The
memorandum pointed out that such a certificate could be rescinded by
the Board at any time within a 60-day period.




Governor Shepardson approved today on behalf
of the Board a memorandum dated March 301 1959,
from Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations, recommending that authorization
be given to reprint 4,000 copies of Part 1
of the "All Bank Statistics" volume and that
the cost be charged against the balance in
the special budget established for that project.

Secrets

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Item No. 1
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AM
TELEGR
WIRE SERVICE
LEASED

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

April 6, 1959.
DEMING - MINNEAPOLIS

29, 1959,
In connection with the Board's order of January
application of
ordering a "public hearing" with respect to the
Heights
First Bank Stock Corporation to acquire shares of Eastern
n has
State Bank of Saint Paul, it is understood that a questio
thereafter
arisen as to the extent to which the application and
the rec'rd of the hearing was intended to be made available for
Public inspecticn, copying of excerpts, etc.
application
It was the intention of the order to make the
f also available
available for public inspection and excerpts thereo
to the public upon payment of the cost of duplication.

It was also

available
the intention of the order to make the record of the hearing
the
for public inspection or for the obtaining of copies from
reporter upon payment of the standard charge.

This would apply to

both transcript and exhibits.
Bank Stock
Please give a copy of this telegram to First
Corporation.




(Signed) Merritt Sherman
SHERMAN

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ADDRESS aro- mum_ CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

'3044iplo'
April

6, 1959.

Mr. L. A. Jennings,
Deputy Comptroller of the Currency,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Jennings:
This refers to your letter of March 11, 1959, regarding a
letter from District Chief National Bank Examiner F. W. Krippel,
and enclosures, concerning a possible violation of Regulation U encountered by your Examiner during a recent examination of the
Meadow Brook National Bank of Nassau County, West Hempstead, New
York.
It appears that the bank had on its books a loan of
$250,000 to Harold Roth, dated November 10, 1958. The loan was colwhich is
lateraled by 50,000 shares of U. S. Hoffman stock, a stock
value
market
a
registered on a national securities exchange and had
ially
substant
at the time of the loan of $569,000. Thus, the loan
R-!p:ulaexceeded the 10 per cent maximum loan value in effect under
were
ates
tion U at the time the loan was made. The stock certific
as
1958
27,
dated November 16, 1958 as to 47,000 shares, and October
cate.
certifi
se
to 3,000 shares. The loan was supported by a nonpurpo
The Examiner's letter states that "It is public knowledge, having
r with
appeared in all the New York papers, that Mr. Roth, togethe
the
within
several others, has acquired control of U. S. Hoffman,
clear,
not
was
Past few years." A notation, the source of which
the
tended to indicate that the loan was to repay a loan to purchase
stock.
the
The Examiner indicated that "after discussion with
was
this
management, during which I told them that in my opinion
the
into
called
Probably a violation of Regulation U, Mr. Roth was
states,
it
affidav
bank and he made the enclosed affidavit." The
among other things, that: "The proceeds of the loan were not used
by me either for the purpose of carrying a stock registered on a
ng any
National Securities Exchange, or for the purpose of purchasi
some
for
and
securities similarly listed. At the time of the loan
clear
and
free
time prior thereto, I owned the aforesaid securities
Of any liens."




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It appears that the affidavit of Mr. Roth does not answer
several questions which are raised by the circumstances surrounding
the loan. The sentence first quoted above from his affidav
it is
limited to describing the use of "proceeds" and merely states a conclusion without stating the facts on which it is based; the second
sentence is indefinite in its use of the phrase "some time" as well
as in its limitation to "liens.
"
It would seem that the bank may have been less concerned
than would be expected with observing the spirit and purpose of the
regulation. The question whether these facts involve a possible
criminal violation or grounds for possible civil (injunction)
Proceedings might depend upon circumstances left uncertain in
Mr. Roth's affidavit. It seems clear, in any event, that
the bank,
as a matter of compliance with the spirit
of the regulation, should
not have made the loan without obtaining a more
satisfactory explanation of the suspicious circumstances, and that it should improve
its
practices.




Very truly yours,

(Sinned) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

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TO THE BOARD

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April 6, 1959.

Mr. Raoul Archambault, Jr.,
Assistant Director,
Bureau of the Budget,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Er. Archambault:
This refers to your letter of February 27, 1959,
inquiring whether the Board has any proposals for State
legislation which it would desire to present through the
Bureau of the Budget for consideration by the Committee of
State Officials on Suggested State Legislation of the
Council of State Governments.
There do not appear to be any proposals for amendments to State laws which the Board would wish to suggest at
this time.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

Ar)ril

Mr. John F. Pierce, Chief Examiner,
Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
New York 45, New York.
Dear Mr. Pierce:
In accordance with the request contained
in your letter of /larch 31, 1959, the Board approves
the reappointment of Roger E. Titus, Jr., as an
assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York. Please advise the date on which the reappointment is made effective.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.