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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, April 4, 1939, at 2:30 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Davis
Draper

Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Leonard, Assistant Chief of the Division
of Examinations
Mr. Williams, Assistant Counsel

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The attention of the members of the Board had been called to
the bill (5.2045) introduced in the Senate yesterday by Senator Brown
which would transfer all examining functions of the Board of Governors
and the Federal Reserve banks and the examining and other functions of
the office of the Comptroller of the Currency to the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation.

The bill was further discussed.

At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Goldenweiser, Leonard
and Williams left the meeting and the action stated with respect to
each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then taken by the
Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on April 1, 1939, were approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Logan, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York, reading as follows:




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"In response to your letter of March 30, 1939, you
are advised that the Board approves the employment of the
firm of Winthrop, Stimson, Putnam and Roberts as trial
counsel to assist your legal department in the mandamus
proceeding brought against the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York by Armand Schmoll, Inc.
"The Board's approval is given subject to the conditions set forth in its letters of February 15, 1926
(X-4531) and April 15, 1936 (X-9548), under the terms
of which the Federal Reserve Bank will obtain an agreement from this firm of special counsel that any fee in
excess of $1,000 will be subject to final review and approval by the Board of Governors and that, before paying
any fee which would exceed $1,000, the Federal Reserve
Bank will submit the same to and obtain the approval of,
the Board of Governors."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated April 3, 1939, to Mr. Gidney, Vice President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, reading as follows:
"In accordance with the recommendation contained
in your letter of March 27 on the subject, the Board
approves the establishment and operation of a branch
at Niagara Falls, New York, by the 'Manufacturers and
Traders Trust Company', Buffalo, New York. It has been
noted that the State authorities have approved the establishment of the proposed branch and that counsel for
the Reserve bank is satisfied with the legal aspects involved."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Hamilton, President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Kansas City, reading as follows:
"Retel March 31 concerning affiliate reports to be
obtained by First St. Joseph Stock Yards Bank, South St.
Joseph, Missouri. Board today made determination suggested in its letter of March 23 and letter with respect
thereto follows. In circumstances, Board will not insist upon report of The First Trust Company as a holding




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"company affiliate. Report of The First National Bank of
St. Joseph covered by express statutory exception as to
reports of member banks."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter addressed jointly to The First
National Bank of St. Joseph and The First
Trust Company, both of St. Joseph, Missouri,
reading as follows:
"As a result of an inquiry by the Federal Reserve
Bank of Kansas City in connection with anticipated voting
permit applications by The First National Bank of St.
Joseph and The First Trust Company, both of St. Joseph,
Missouri, the Board has given consideration to the holding company affiliate status of such organizations.
"The Board understands that The First Trust Company
was organized by The First National Bank of St. Joseph
in 1909, primarily to conduct a trust and real estate
mortgage loan business which could not be conducted by
a national bank; that all of the stock of The First Trust
Company (except qualifying shares transferred to directors subject to options to repurchase) is held by the
president of The First National Bank of St. Joseph in
trust for the shareholders of such bank and the directors
of The First Trust Company are required to be directors
of the bank; that the two institutions occupy the same
banking quarters, are under the same management, and in
substance are departments of a single banking institution
which is the largest in St. Joseph, the national bank
handling the commercial business and the trust company
handling the savings, trust, bond, and real estate mortgage loan business; that The First Trust Company owns
1,289 of the 1,331 outstanding shares of common stock
of the First St. Joseph Stock Yards Bank, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation owning all of the 1,169 outstanding shares of preferred stock; and that The First
National Bank of St. Joseph does not directly or indirectly own or control any stock of, or manage or control, any bank other than The Iirst Trust Company and
the First St. Joseph Stock Yards Bank.
"In view of these facts, the Board has determined
that The First National Bank of St. Joseph and The First




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"Trust Company are not engaged, directly or indirectly,
as a business in holding, the stock of, or managing or controlling, banks, banking associations, savings banks, or
trust companies, within the meaning of section 2(c) of
the Banking Act of 1933, as amended, and, therefore, they
are not holding company affiliates for any purposes other
than those of section 23A of the Federal Reserve Act.
"If, however, the facts should at any time differ
from those set out above to an extent which would indicate that either of such organizations might be deemed
to be so engaged, this matter should again be submitted
to the Board. The Board reserves the right to make further
determinations with respect to such organizations at any
time on the basis of the then existing facts."
Letter to Mr. Young, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of March 13, enclosing
a letter from Mr. R. I. Bunce, Deputy Superintendent of
Banks of the State of Iowa, in connection with publication of condition reports rendered by Iowa State bank
members to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and the
State banking department, respectively.
"We greatly appreciate the cooperation of State
banking!: departments in accepting condition statements
published in accordance with the Board's form F.R. 105e,
and shall continue to do everything practicable to facilitate the single, joint publication of condition reports
submitted by State bank members, as of the same cell date,
to their respective Federal Reserve banks and State banking departments. The latest action by the Board in that
direction was the further revision of form F.R. 105e described in the Board's letter 5-154 of March 23.
"The possible acceptance from State bank members of
condition reports in which all reserve accounts are shown
among liabilities, as required by the State banking department of Iowa, has been carefully considered. As you
know, the instructions (form F.R. 105a) governing the
preparation of condition reports of State bank members
require that all valuation allowances or reserves which




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"have been set up by the reporting bank for estimated
losses or depreciation be deducted from the respective
items of assets and, of course, excluded from capital
account. The same requirement is included in the corresponding instructions issued by the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation, and the instructions issued by
the Comptroller of the Currency include a corresponding
requirement that unallocated charge-offs for depreciation in securities be applied against the appropriate
items of assets. Many State bank members had been deducting valuation reserves from assets and capital account
even before the instructions referred to were issued,
and the inclusion of this requirement in the detailed
instructions made available at the time of the last call
was in line with the practice to which the Board had
given approval some time back. For example, letter X-9032
of November 28, 1934, stated that -'The Board considers that the charge off or
elimination of estimated losses and depreciation
in assets ... ... may be effected properly
through the establishment and maintenance of
valuation reserves, provided that in all reports
and published statements of condition such reserves be deducted from the respective assets
against which allocated, thereby reporting such
assets in the same amounts as if the charge offs
actually had been made, and that the losses to
provide for which the reserves were established
are charged against the respective reserves as
soon as such losses are definitely determined.'
"In the circumstances, the Board would not be willing
to accept condition reports on form F.B. 105 or statements
published in accordance with form F.R. 105e which included
among liabilities valuation reserves set up to take care
of estimated losses or depreciation in assets. Of course
there is no requirement that banks set up valuation reserves. The use of valuation reserves is merely an alternative procedure which is permitted in certain circumstances, and if it causes any difficulties with respect
to State requirements the remedy would seem to be for the
banks to make direct charge-offs.
"In connection with the reference in Mr. Bunce's letter to the State requirement that the banks' condition




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"statements be on a cash basis, rather than on an accrual
basis, it would appear that, if a bank maintains its books
on an accrual basis, it would be better for its condition
reports to be submitted on that basis, since such a report
reflects the undivided profits of the bank more accurately
than one submitted on a cash basis. There is no objection
from the Board's standpoint, however, to a State bank member's submitting condition reports on form F.R. 105 on either
a cash or an accrual basis, the accrual account items on
form F.R. 105 having been provided for the use of banks
that maintain their books and prepare reports on that basis.
It should be understood, of course, that on whatever basis
the condition report is rendered, the semi-annual earnings
and dividends report must be submitted on the same basic.
"In this connection, it is our understanding that Mr.
Bates, Superintendent of Banks of the State of Iowa, is a
member of the Executive Committee of the National Association of State Bank Supervisors; in fact, he participated
in the final discussions of that committee in Washington
just before the standard form of condition report was
adopted. We understand that Mr. Bates indicated to the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation some time ago that,
although he was not then prepared to adopt the standard
form, he was inclined to think that it would be adopted
for Iowa State banks in the near future."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated April 3, 1939, from Ma.. Bethea, Assistant Secretary, reading as follows:
"It will be recalled that recently, at the request
of the Federal Advisory Council, a copy of the report which
it made to the Banking and Currency Committee of the Senate
on the Barkley trust indenture bill (5.477) was transmitted
to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce of the
House, which expects to hold hearings tomorrow on the trust
indenture bill introduced in the House by Congressman Cole
(H.R.5220).
"On last Saturday the attached request was received
from Congressman Cole asking that the Iederal Advisory
Council be requested to submit to him by Tuesday morning
(tomorrow) a report 'addressed strictly to H.R. 5220'.




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"1dr. Cole's request was wired to the Federal Advisory
Council and telephone advice has been received from :Mr.
Howard A. Loeb, Vice President of the Council, this morning to the effect that a copy of the Council's report will
be transmitted to the Board this afternoon or tomorrow for
transmission to Mr. Cole.
"Mile the provisions of the Cole bill are somewhat
different from the provisions of the Barkley bill as originally introduced in the Senate this year and upon which
the former report of the Advisory Council was based, it is
assumed that the new report by the Advisory Council will
be in substance the same as its former report. If this is
the case and in view of the limited time, the members of
the Board may be willing to authorize the transmission of
the new report by the Advisory Council to Mr. Cole as soon
as such report is received. If the members of the Board
approve of this procedure, it will be appreciated if they
will so indicate by initialing this memorandum."
The procedure outlined in the memorandum was approved unanimously. The
letter sent to Mr. Cole today read as
follows:
"Referring further to your letter of March 31, 1939,
there is transmitted herewith, at the request of the Executive Committee of the Federal Advisory Council, a
self-explanatory letter dated April 3, 1939, from the
Secretary of the Council, expressing the views of the
Council's Executive Committee with respect to the trust
indenture bill, H.R. 5220.
"You will understand, of course, that the Board of
Governors in transmitting the enclosed letter is not thereby expressing any views or opinions of its own with regard to the bill."
Letter to the Bureau of the Budget, prepared in accordance
with the action taken at the meeting of the Board on March 31, 1939,
and reading as follows:




"The Board of Governors has considered the draft of

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"a bill to provide a better coordination of Government reports, to simplify Government reporting requirements, and
for related purposes, and is in agreement with the purposes
of this legislation, namely, to reduce as far as possible
the cost to the Government and to reporting firms of obtaining information necessary for the conduct of the public
business.
"In order to clarify the apparent intention of the
last proviso of section 8 of the bill, the Board recommends
that this proviso be changed to read as follows:
'Provided further, That any restriction of confidence or penalty for unlawful disclosure of
confidential information otherwise applicable
to the officers and employees of the agency collecting the information or furnishing it to
another agency shall not be applicable to them
in making available information pursuant to the
provisions of this section, but shall be applicable to the officers and employees of any agency
receiving information in accordance with the
provisions of this section.'
"With this change the Board favors the enactment of
the bill."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated April 3, 1939, to the Presidents of all Federal
Reserve banks, reading as follows:
"In order to provide the Board with some information as to the amount of intermediate and long-term credit
now being extended to commercial and industrial businesses,
it will be appreciated if you will kindly request each
weekly reporting member bank to furnish you with a report
on Form F.R. 464, a supply of which is enclosed, as of
Wednesday, April 19, 1939. The reports will, of course,
be treated as confidential, and if any of the information
is released by the Board it will be in summary form.
"Please forward the reports to the Board, together
with any comments by your staff which may be useful to
the Board in analyzing or interpreting the reports."




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Approved unanimously, with the understanding that the report form referred to
in the letter would be cleared with the
Central Statistical Board before being sent
to the Federal Reserve banks.
In connection with the above matter,
the following letter dated April 3, 1939,
to Honorable Jerome Frank, Commissioner,
Securities and Exchange Commission, was also
approved unanimously:
"Referring to your letter of October 5, 1938, to Chairand your letter of November 28, 1938, to Mr.
Eccles
man
Woodlief Thames, the Board has decided to ask weekly reporting member banks in 101 leading cities to furnish it with
the information called for by the attached form with respect to loans with maturities in excess of one year, held
by them on Wednesday, April 19, 1939.
"This form has been discussed with Mr. Goldschmidt
and Mr. Bolton-Smith of your office and it is understood
that it meets with their approval."
Memorandum dated March 28, 1939, from Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant
General Counsel, with respect to amendments to the Federal Bankruptcy
Act, as amended by the Chandler Act approved June 22, 1938, and particularly to Section 60(a)-(b) of the Act.

The memorandum discussed

the provisions of Section 60(a) of the Act and stated that counsel for
the various Federal Reserve banks were aware of the problem created
thereby and recommended that unless the Board desired to call the
matter to the attention of Congress, it would appear that no action
upon the part of the Board was necessary.




It was agreed that no action should be
taken by the Board.

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-10Letter to Mr. Schaller, President of the Federal Reserve Bank

of Chicago, reading as follows:
"There are attached a copy of a letter which the
Securities and Exchange Commission has referred to the
Board from 'Mr. B.B. Webb, Chevrolet Motor Co., General
Motors Building A-S, Detroit, Michigan, end a copy of
our letter to Mr. Webb.
"It appears that Mr. Webb purchased 100 shares of
Montgomery Ward & Co., Inc. common stock at 48 when he
held an option to 'put' the stock at 50-1/2. It appears
further that his broker exercised the 'put' at 50-1/2
before the expiration of three full business days after
the purchase of the stock.
"It seems clear, of course, that the broker did not
violate Regulation T in thus exercising the 'put' since
section 7(e) of the regulation emphasizes the fact that
exchanges or brokers may impose requirements stricter than
those specified in the regulation. The footnote to section 3(e) also points out that the regulation is not
intended to countenance on the part of customers the
practice commonly known as 'free-riding' or 'three-day
riding'. So far as the specific requirements of the
regulation are concerned, it may be observed that a
'put' cannot be counted as margin for purposes of the
regulation because it has no loan value under section
3(c), and it may be further noted that margin required
under the regulation must, according to section 3(b),
be obtained 'as Promptly as possible and in any event
before the expiration of three full business days' following the date of the transaction.
"It will be appreciated if you will make an appropriate reply to Mr. Webb."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:
"It is respectfully requested that you place a
special order with the Bureau of Engraving and Printing,
supplementing the order requested June 14, 1938, for
the printing of Federal reserve notes of the 1934 Series




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"in the amounts and denominations stated for the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York:
Number of
DenamiAmount
sheets
nation
00
100
1000

30,000
30,000
3,000

48,000,000
36,000,000
36,000,000"

Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated April 3, 1939, from tifti. Wyatt, General Counsel,
reading as follows:
"In order to expedite the adoption of amendments to
Regulation J and the promulgation of a new regulation on
noncash collections recommended by the Standing Committee
on Collections and by the Conference of Presidents as
part of the plan for putting into effect a more expeditious system of collection, I respectfully request that
this office be authorized to depart somewhat from the
procedure which has been customary in such matters during recent years.
"The Chairman of the Standing Committee on Collections has called a meeting of his Committee to be held
In Chicago on April 19 for the purpose of making final
arrangements regarding amendments to the check collection circulars, the noncash collection circulars and
the time schedules, which will be necessary in order to
put into effect the changes in the collection procedure
recently recommended by the Standing Committee on Collections and approved by the Conference of Presidents
at their meeting on March 6; he has invited Mr. &lead
and the undersigned to attend that meeting; and he has
suggested that it be attended also by the Committee of
five Federal Reserve bank counsel which met in New York
with the Standing Committee on Collections in January
and considered certain aspects of this subject.
"The revised cash and noncash circulars cannot be
issued until certain proposed amendments to Regulation
J have been adopted and the proposed new regulation on




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"noncash collections has been issued; and the proposed
joint meeting of the Committee on Collections and the
Counsel in Chicago will afford an excellent opportunity
to work out both the technical and legal details of these
documents and put them in shape for prompt action by the
Board.
"However, the time is so short that it will be impossible to clear tentative drafts of the new regulation
on noncash collections and the proposed amendments to
Regulation J with the Board and its staff and with the
twelve Federal Reserve banks prior to the meeting in
Chicago.
"If the Board has no objection, therefore, I would
like to proceed as follows:
"1. Complete the preparation of tentative drafts
of the two regulations with the assistance of Mr. Smead
and furnish copies simultaneously to all members of the
Board, all divisions of the Board's staff, all Federal
Reserve bank Counsel and all members of the Standing
Committee on Collections, and invite their criticisms
and comments;
"2. Endeavor to clear these drafts with Mr. &lead,
the Standing Committee on Collections, and the Committee
of five Federal Reserve bank Counsel at the joint meeting
in Chicago, in the light of such suggestions that have
been received up to that time; and
"3. Submit revised drafts of both regulations to
the Board as soon as possible after the meeting in Chicago,
taking into consideration any additional suggestions which
have been received between the date of that meeting and
the date of submission to the Board."
The procedure outlined in the memorandum was approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Assistant Secretary.

Approved:




Chairman.