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Minutes for APril ?8, 1953

To:

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard
to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will
advise the Secretary's Office, Otherwise, if you
were present at the meeting, please initial in column A below to indicate that you approve the minutes.
If you were not present, please initial in column B
below to indicate that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Vardaman
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson

„ A)

Gov. Balderston

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Gov. Shepardson




Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, April 28, 1958. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr*
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Vardaman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson

Nix.. Carpenter, Secretary
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr*
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Riefler, Assistant to the Chairman
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board
Leonard, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Young, Director, Division of Research and
Statistics
Hackley, General Counsel
Masters, Director, Division of Examinations
Molony, Special Assistant to the Board
Solomon, Assistant General Counsel
O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel

Oral argument in First New York Corporation matter (Items 1 and 2).
At the time the exceptions and brief of applicants on the supplemental
rePort and recommended decision of the Hearing Examiner in connection
With the applications of First New York Corporation and others under
the Bank Holding Company Act were filed with the Board, the applicants
requested that the matter be set down for oral argument.

Counsel for

applicants requested, however, that the setting of a date for oral
a glIment be deferred pending receipt from the applicants of a statement
Of convenience in this connection.

The matter had now been discussed

by counsel for the applicants and counsel for the Board.

In a

Memorandum dated April 24, 1958, which had been distributed to the
members of the Board, Mr. O'Connell suggested certain dates which might
be

considered.




V28/58

-2After discussion of the information presented by Mr. O'Connell,

the Board agreed to set down the matter for oral argument at 10:00 a.m.
on May 21., 1958, in Room 1202 of the Federal Reserve Building.

While it

appeared that Mr. William R. Brennan, Jr., Deputy Superintendent and
Counsel of the New York State Banking Department, was otherwise committed
on that date, it was understood that another representative of that
Department would be present.

A copy of the order sent to the appropriate

Parties pursuant to this action of the Board is attached as Item No. 1.
Mr. O'Connell's memorandum also discussed a request from the
Independent Bankers Association that the President of that Association

be permitted to participate in the oral argument. After setting forth
reasons which might be given for and against granting this or any other
l'equest of a similar nature, the memorandum stated that in the opinion
Of members of the Board's legal staff who had considered the matter there
vould be justification for receiving oral argument from a member of
Congress desiring to appear for that purpose, but in refusing such right
to

allY other person except parties to the proceeding, regardless of

Ighether they had previously appeared as witnesses.

Submitted with the

m
emorandum was a draft of reply to the Independent Bankers Association
14 line with that position. The letter would point out, however, that
the oral

argument was to be public and that representatives of the

Association might wish to attend.




4/28/58
There followed a discussion of the question raised by the
request of the Independent Bankers Association and, in response to
questions, Mr. O'Connell expressed the opinion that refusal of any
request made by a person other than a party to the proceeding to participate in the oral argument would be sustained by a reviewing court
in the absence of exceptional circumstances.

With respect to permitting

members of the Congress the right to appear and argue, he brought out
that upon appeal the applicants might allege that the Board had committed
Prejudicial error in permitting persons other than parties to the
Proceeding to appear in opposition to the granting of the applications.
However, in view of the public responsibilities of members of the Congress,
he would not hesitate to argue that a distinction could be made between
such members and other individuals who were not parties to the proceeding.
At the conclusion of the discussion, it was agreed unanimously
that members of the Congress who might express a desire to appear and
argue should be accorded that privilege, but that no other person not
4

Party to the proceeding should be permitted to appear for the purpose

°r making an oral argument.

A copy of the letter sent to the Secretary

cif the Independent Bankers Association pursuant to this decision of the
Board is attached as Item No. 2.
Mr. O'Connell then withdrew from the meeting and Messrs. Koch,
Associate Adviser, and Dembitz, Research Associate, Division of Research

aM Statistics, entered the room.




4/28/58
Reserve requirement legislation.

Pursuant to a previous under-

standing, there had been distributed to the members of the Board, with a
memorandum from Mr. Thomas dated April 4, 1958, a draft of a staff report
giving background information regarding the bill on reserve requirements
introduced in the Congress at the Board's request. The report included
Chapters on the existing structure of reserve requirements, the purposes
of reserve requirements, the appropriate level of reserves, the basis for
differentials in reserve requirements, and the reasons for the proposed
changes.

Appendices presented a history of changes in the structure of

reserve requirements and material relating to the designation of central
reserve and reserve cities.
The general content of the staff report was regarded as satisfactory, with the understanding that the report would be revised in
certain respects to take into account suggestions
already received by
Mz. Thomas from various sources along with such other comments and
suggestions as the members of the Board might make to him.

Accordingly,

the principal discussion related to the use to be made of the document.
While it was agreed that there would be no objection to furnishing copies
Of

the report to the staffs of the interested Congressional committees if

11 request should be received from them for information of this kind, question
Igaa raised regarding the desirability of distributing the report outside

the Federal Reserve System at this time, there being some feeling that
the detailed treatment therein of various aspects of the subject of reserve




4/28/58

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requirements might lead to discussion which would not be entirely pertinent to the Board's legislative proposal.

In favor of distributing the

document to parties such as the members of the Federal Advisory Council,
the members of the Committee on Legal Reserve Requirements of the American
Bankers Association and the staff of the Committee, it was pointed out
that inquiries had been received by members of the Board and the staff
Which were of such a nature as to indicate the existence of some suspicion
that a motive of the Board was to obtain authority which would permit it
to establish reserve requirement classifications in addition to the
existing three.

It was suggested that a detailed memorandum of this kind

furnishing full information on the background of the Board's proposal
might serve to alleviate any such suspicions within the ranks of the
banking fraternity or in other quarters.

Accordingly, it was agreed that

when the background memorandum was revised, it would be sent to the Federal
Reserve Banks, the members of the Federal Advisory Council, and the Chairman
of the Committee on Legal Reserve Requirements.
Following further discussion, the suggestion also was made that
4

shorter memorandum be prepared which would explain the legal effect of

the proposed legislation.

Such a memorandum would serve to amplify the

statement previously furnished to the Congress in connection with the
introduction of the bill but would not deal with the reasons why the
Posed changes in the existing legislation were considered desirable.
14 order that this suggestion might be explored further, the legal staff
Was rel____s_t_ad_ to prepare a document of this kind for the Board's consideration.




4/28/58

-6Chairman Martin indicated that hearings possibly would be held

on the bill before the House Banking and Currency Committee during the
week of May 12 and before the Senate Banking and Currency Committee the
following week.

With regard to the statement which might be presented

at such hearings, he expressed the view that the substance of the introductory section of the memorandum submitted by Mr. Thomas would be
generally appropriate as to content but that some revision would be
desirable.
In accordance with this comment, it was understood that Messrs.
Thurston and Molony would prepare for the Board's consideration a draft
Of statement which might be presented in connection with the hearings,
using as a basis the introductory section of the draft report.
The discussion concluded with a suggestion by Governor Robertson
that there be prepared, for use as a working paper in the event of
questions, a statement summarizing the statutes of the respective States
vith respect to bank reserve requirements.

The meeting then adjourned.




cretary

Item NO. 1

4/23/58
UNITED STATES OF AMERTCA
BEFORE THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RLSLRVE SYSTEM

In the Matter of the Applications of
DOCKET NUMBERS

FIRST NEW YOR4 CORPORATION,

1

1

THE FIRST NATIONAL CITY BANK OF NE:1 YORK,
and
INT.CRNATIONAL BANKING CORiORATION

BHC - 1
BHC - 2
BHC - 3

for prior approval of actf_on to become
bank holding companies under Section 3
of the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956

ORDER GRANTING REQUEST AND SETTING
DATE, TEE AND PLACE FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
This matter coming on this day for consideration on
Applicants! request for Oral Prgument, it is ORDERED that:
This matter be set down for Oral Argument before the
Board on Wednesday, :tray 21, 1958, in Room 1202, Federal Reserve
Building, Washington, D. C., at 10:00 a.m.
This 28th day of April 1958.
By order of the Board of Governors.

dJ

(SEAL)
Washington, D. C.
April 28, 1958




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Item No. 2
4/28/58

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

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April 28, 1958

Mr. Ben DuBois, Secretary,
The Independent Bankers Association,
Sauk Centre, Minnesota.
Dear Ben:
This refers to your letter of April 17, 1958, advising
that at such time as the Board sets a date for oral argument on the
applications of The First National City Bank, et al., your Associalon's President, Mr. R. E. Gormley, desires to appear before the
board and present a statement.
The Board's Rules of Practice for Formal Hearings provide
that the Board may order oral argument only upon the written request
°f "any party or of counsel to the Board". The primary purpose of
it.elch a provision is to provide the parties with an opportunity to
!
- -48cu8s orally the major points, both factual and legal, raised in
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5-efa previously submitted for the Board's consideration. It also
a;Ifords the Board an opportunity to have clarified any questions of
Iact or law raised in the exceptions or briefs of the parties. In
roceedings such as that involving The First National City Bank of
ew York, the Board deems it advisable to limit participation in oral
1Tument to the parties to the proceeding unless circumstances appear
!
;4:0 require an exception. This position seems justified for at least
Iwo reasons,
theFit, unless the appearances were so limited, achievement of
primary purpose of oral argument previously mentioned might well be
rnade unduly difficult and a conclusion of the administrative proceeding
PtvesrhaPs unduly protracted. Secondly, the Board has available to it in
"e record of the proceedings the views and expressions of persons and
f'ganizations„ such as yours, having a legitimate interest in the out'''me of the proceeding.




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Mr. Ben DuBois

For these reasons, participation in oral argument, today
ordered by the Board to be held on May 21, 1958, in Room 1202,
Federal Reserve Building, Washington, D. C., at 10 A.M., will be
limited in the manner above set forth. However, the Board has
ordered that oral argument be open to the public, and you and your
associates are invited to attend, if you so desire.
Your expression of interest in this matter is appreciated.




Sincerely yours,
(Signed) S. R. Carpenter
S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.