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FALL 2012
Volume 3 Number 3

F refront
New Ideas on Economic Policy from the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
of CLEVELAND

Experiments in Education:
What’s Working in Your Town?
I N S I DE :

Policy Rules
New Approaches
to Grant Making
Interview with
Karen Dynan

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New Ideas on Economic Policy from the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
of CLEVELAND

		FALL 2012

Volume 3 Number 3

		CONTENTS
1	President’s Message
2	Upfront

Homelessness; faster payments; coaching carousel

4	Shaken to Their Foundations

Post-recession challenges for Ohio’s grant makers,
and how the Cleveland Fed is contributing to the solutions

8	Out of the Spotlight, Little-Known Group
Works to Harmonize Foreclosure Rules

A low-profile but enormously important group
of appointed lawyers and judges is working behind the scenes

10	Hot Topic

What are policy rules?

From the cover

12	
The Illustrated Economics of Education
		
A tour of education reforms happening in Anytown, USA,

4

and what economists think about them

15	Policy Watch

Why can’t some states balance their budgets?

18	Book Review

America’s First Great Depression

20	Interview with Karen Dynan

12

The Brookings Institution economist discusses her views on whether
Americans are saving enough and lessons from the financial crisis

26	Remembrance
Anna Schwartz

President and CEO: Sandra Pianalto

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The views expressed in Forefront are not necessarily those of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland or the Federal Reserve System.
Content may be reprinted with the disclaimer above and credited
to Forefront. Send copies of reprinted material to the Public Affairs
Department of the Cleveland Fed.
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Editor in Chief: M
 ark Sniderman,
Executive Vice President and Chief Policy Officer
Editor: Doug Campbell
Managing Editor: Amy Koehnen
Associate Editor: Michele Lachman
Art Director: Michael Galka
Web Designer: Natalie Karrs
Digital Media Strategist: Lou Marich
Contributors:
Dionissi Aliprantis
Jean Burson
Todd Clark
Joan Curran Darkortey
Thomas Fitzpatrick IV
Jacob Kuipers
Dan Littman
Mary Helen Petrus
Special Thanks:
Michael Bordo
Editorial Board:
Kelly Banks, Vice President, Community Relations
Paul Kaboth, Vice President, Community Development
Stephen Ong, Vice President, Supervision and Regulation
Mark Schweitzer, Senior Vice President, Research

PRESIDENT’S MESSAGE
Sandra Pianalto
President and Chief Executive Officer
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland

A substantial amount of
research is performed at
the Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland. Most of our
work is produced in-house
by teams of economists
and other subject-matter
experts, but we also consult
outside experts to augment
our findings. Our primary
purpose for any research we conduct or review is to support the
development of our policy positions. Whenever possible, we
share what we’ve been learning and thinking about with people
and organizations outside the Bank. We provide information
in the form of speeches, for example, or in any number of the
Cleveland Fed’s publications, including Forefront.
This issue of Forefront features the Bank’s recent collaboration
with the University of Kentucky in convening an economics
of education workshop. Several of our economists have a
focus in education research, and their associations with other
researchers help spread their findings while providing feedback
for their own work. This feature article aims to give you a taste
of the cutting-edge research that is aiding efforts to advance
educational attainment across the United States.
In this issue we also report on the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland’s involvement with the region’s philanthropic networks,
an area where our learning is only just beginning. Mary Helen
Petrus with the Community Development Department discusses
her group’s collaborations with foundations and other grant
makers across the Midwest. Grant makers are facing tighter
giving budgets in the aftermath of the recession and necessarily
have become more innovative and focused in deploying their
funds. Where the Cleveland Fed can help is in bringing together
foundations and public agencies with mutual interests to discuss
our research on topics of interest to them.

This issue also puts a spotlight on a group that ordinarily
operates out of the spotlight—the Uniform Law Commission.
Researchers with the Cleveland Fed have closely followed the
Commission’s recent efforts to propose a uniform legal frame­
work for handling mortgage foreclosure rules across state lines.
The importance of getting the details right when considering
different state approaches to mortgage foreclosures, for example,
may be a crucial ingredient in the housing recovery. Our
researchers are providing input to the process as it evolves.
Our featured interview is with Karen Dynan, vice president and
co-director of the Economic Studies program at the Brookings
Institution. We invited Dynan to talk with Bank researchers about
her work in household finance and macroeconomics. I benefited
considerably from her visit to the Bank, and I am hopeful you
will have the same reaction to our interview with her.
As you’ll see in this issue, in addition to conducting academic
research, we spend time talking with educators and policymakers,
lawmakers and nonprofit managers, and many more. I always take
away something new from these conversations, and invariably
their insights provide background for the way I think about
Federal Reserve policy. I consider these dialogues an integral part
of my job, as they inform my comments around the Federal Open
Market Committee table.
The Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland exists to serve the public
interest. As much as we want to share what we know with you,
we also want to hear from you. On our website, clevelandfed.org,
you can find many resources and key contact information. Please
let us know what you think. ■

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Upfr nt
Homelessness
frustrates
educational
attainment
In 2011, more than 13,000 Ohioans
were homeless, an increase of
4.8 percent from 2010, according
to the Coalition on Homelessness
and Housing in Ohio. Among them
were more than 5,000 families with
children, an 8.4 percent increase
from the previous year’s count.
Homelessness used to be thought
of mainly as a housing problem. But
the growing number of homeless
children is prompting a wider range
of community institutions and policy­
makers to take notice.
The Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland recently hosted an event
to discuss how homelessness relates
to a range of issues, including housing,
employment, health, social welfare,
and education. One of the leading
voices to emerge in this discussion
has been neither an advocate for low-­
income housing nor an antipoverty
expert, but rather an educator—
Eric Gordon, CEO of the Cleveland
Metropolitan School District (CMSD).
Speaking at the event, Gordon said
he believes that now is the time to
address poverty and homelessness
as education issues. Almost every
one of CMSD’s 41,000 students is
living at or near the poverty level.
During the school year, more than
one-third of them will shuttle from
homeless shelters to sleeping in
cars to doubling up with friends and
relatives. These children are living a
“bag and go” existence, Gordon says,

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which results in high attrition rates
and frequent interruptions in the
learning process.
A recent audit of CMSD students
counted just above 57,000. On an
average day, almost one-quarter
of them missed school because
of mobility; that is, they moved
frequently, calling no place (and, by
extension, no school) “home.” This
makes it difficult for students to take
advantage of what is offered—good
teachers, flexible teaching methods,
and mentor–mentee relationships.
Efforts to address this problem
are underway. The Education for
Homeless Children and Youth
program provides school districts
around the country, including CMSD,
with federal funding to ensure a free
and appropriate public education
for homeless students. In addition,
CMSD forms strategic partnerships
with other schools and social service
organizations to leverage services
and maximize limited resources. One
such partnership, with the Cleveland
Foodbank, serves a free breakfast
and lunch to students, many of whom
also receive food-filled backpacks to
take home for the weekend.
Project ACT (Action for Children in
Transition), one of the district’s most
successful programs, standardizes
the curriculum throughout the district
and streamlines the re-enrollment
process to help stabilize homeless
students’ education. The program
aims to decrease, or even eliminate,
some of the barriers these children
face in obtaining a steady education,
including failure to meet residency
requirement and the lack of adequate
school records.

But even with professionals and
government officials dedicated to
help, the problem of homeless
students is only getting worse.
Schools need volunteers in the cafe­
teria and in the classroom. Students
need mentors in the business world.
And supplies are always welcome.
Check with your local school district
to discover how you can help.
—Joan Curran Darkortey

Faster payments!
Pay! Pay!
Have you ever paid a bill late? Did
you pay a penalty? If so, you’re not
alone. A recent study found that
58 million Americans admit to not
paying all of their bills on time, and
in 2009 alone, US consumers spent
about $20 billion in late fees on their
credit card bills.
But take heart: The number of late
payments and associated fees could
be reduced if there were a reliable
way for consumers to pay bills
through banking sites on the day
before a bill is due, or on the due
date itself.
Such a system exists—in the United
Kingdom. The UK’s Faster Payments
Service, now four years old, allows
Britons to initiate payments to businesses and have those payments
received, acknowledged, and posted
on the very same day; in fact, within
an hour or two. These same-day

payments can be used for many
purposes, only one of which is making
a payment on the day it is due and
avoiding a late penalty. Faster
Payments Service now carries payments traffic equivalent to 13 percent
of all Automated Clearing House
(ACH) traffic in the UK.
Wouldn’t it be nice if you could make
such payments on the same day,
here in the United States?
You already can, in a way. US banks
offer some services similar to
Faster Payments, but not identical.
Expedited payment services mainly
through banks and card-not-present
transactions (paying billers over the
phone directly with a credit card)
allow some consumers to make
same-day payments. Caveats,
however, include considerable fees,
biller participation, and credit
availability—things that can hinder
customer use.
The United States has taken a
somewhat different path with its
payments system than the UK,
often to its benefit. But why not
an easy-to-use, customer-friendly
Faster Payments Service like in the
UK? One reason is that that the
US approach to ACH seeks to gain
agreement from all originating and
receiving US banks to participate in
whatever scheme is adopted, unlike
in the UK, where banks were allowed
to opt out. Couple that with the
reality of cost (the UK’s network to
support just a handful of banks was
quite considerable), and you end up
with a lot of complex technology and
business issues to hammer out.

Cleveland Fed President Sandra
Pianalto, who chairs the Federal
Reserve’s Financial Services Policy
Committee, said in a recent speech
she is confident that faster payments
are “within our grasp.” It’s a project
that the National Automated Clearing
House Association has been working
on for several years now, though
unlike the UK’s system, the US one
would also encompass business-tobusiness payments. The Fed aims
to be part of the process, with the
ultimate goal of ensuring not only a
more efficient payments system, but
a more secure one.
How long it will take for the US to
implement a faster payments model
is not clear. What is clear is that it’s
not a question of whether, but when.
For some of us, it can’t happen soon
enough.
—Dan Littman

Beware the
coaching carousel
On November 4, 2012, the University
of Kentucky joined what has become
something of an annual tradition in
college sports: It fired its football
coach.
Just a week earlier, a trio of researchers
weighed in on this trend; their results
may not hearten Kentucky gridiron
fans: “The relatively common decision
to fire head college football coaches
for poor team performance may be
ill-advised,” the authors conclude.
A growing body of research suggests
that reflexive scapegoating can be
ineffective. That’s especially true in
industries where the gestation period
for projects is years in the making,
whether it’s the development of a
championship football team or a
blockbuster-generating movie studio.

Moreover, as much as we’d like to
assign cause-and-effect relationships
to everything, outcomes are often
determined by simple chance.
(That was the premise of physicist
Leonard Mlodinow’s 2009 book, The
Drunkard’s Walk: How Randomness
Rules Our Lives.)
The latest contribution to the issue
of firing the coach comes from
professors at the University of
Colorado and Loyola University
Chicago. They looked at data from
1997 to 2010, comparing football
programs that replaced their top
coaches because of poor team
performance with those who kept
theirs. Over the study period, about
10 percent of all football schools fired
their head coach each year because
of disappointing results. It turns
out that replacing the coaches of
really bad teams has very little effect
on performance. And teams with
“middling” records, which you might
think would give new coaches a
good opportunity to improve decent
programs, performed worse than
those that kept their coaches.
The authors are careful to note that
some teams may advance in the
standings under new leadership, but,
on average, that’s not what the data
show. ■
—Doug Campbell

Resources
Go to clevelandfed.org/forefront for links
to the full paper on firing the coach as well
as the ever-interesting blog, The Sports
Economist, which tipped us to the story.
http://thesportseconomist.com

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Shaken to Their Foundations
Grant makers adjust to tighter budgets with creativity,
collaboration, and an increasingly long-term strategic horizon

Mary Helen Petrus
Outreach Manager
and Senior Policy Advisor

In post-recession America, winning grants for community
development and social service efforts is more competitive
than ever. The challenge is different but equally difficult for
the foundations that make the grants.
For a broad range of grant makers, investment income
is down and donations are smaller, according to the
Foundation Center. US foundations’ assets plunged more
than 17 percent in 2008, the start of the recession, and
gifts to foundations fell by almost 16 percent. In fact, funds
from all sources—public and private—are scarcer, and
community needs are on the rise.
That’s a big problem for front-line responders—
community development corporations, food banks,
housing counseling agencies—which rely on grants to
fund many of their programs and much of their operations.
It’s also problematic for the foundations themselves, which
must identify emerging issues and community concerns,
as well as promising approaches for tackling them, with
leaner resources than in past years.
Given these developments, the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland recently set out to talk with foundations and
other grant makers throughout the Midwest. We began
the conversation by posing some key questions: How are
funders managing and making their funding decisions in
tough economic times? What are the potential impacts?
What works? What doesn’t? With tighter budgets now
a given, figuring out the answers and delineating ways to
channel resources toward common goals is imperative.

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In sum, we learned that grant makers are tightening their
belts with innovation, increasing focus, collaboration, and
plain hustle.
And intriguingly, we were told of a small but sure shift in
the kind of grants foundations are considering. Whereas
in past years, grants tended to focus on responding to
immediate needs, today there is stepped-up concentration
on so-called “strategic” grants, which take on wider problems
in multifaceted ways. True, the dollar amounts of grants for
strategic efforts account for only a fraction of the overall flow,
but even so, the change has the makings of an interesting
experiment that could well play a role in the future of
grant making.

Community challenges

Ohio has weathered the recession fairly well compared
with other states, but funding challenges still have mounted.
According to a recent report by the Ohio Grantmakers
Forum, total charitable giving in Ohio dropped from
$6.5 billion in 2008 to $5.9 billion in 2009, a 10 percent
decrease. Ohio individuals gave 7 percent less in 2009
than in 2008, after a decrease of 11 percent the year before.
Foundation giving, as a component of all charitable giving,
decreased by 8 percent from 2008 to 2009.
More than one-third of respondents to the Foundation
Center’s 2012 Foundation Giving Forecast Survey said
they had reduced giving in the past year. Meanwhile,
government funding for many social service and
community development programs has also decreased.
This leaves foundation grantees with fewer resources to
operate, much less to deliver programs and services to
their constituents.

And the needs of constituents have only grown with the
recession and slow recovery. Some foundations have seen
an increase in homelessness and hunger. Foundations
almost uniformly identify as challenges the quality of
public education and its ability to connect with workforce
preparedness programs, as well as the disconnect between
workforce training programs and the skills required for
available and future jobs.
Other challenges vary by region:
	In Springfield, Ohio, funders are concerned about
vacancies and real-estate-owned property—foreclosed
homes that have gone back into the lender’s hand
and often sit vacant for long periods. They are also
concerned about dental coverage for low- to moderateincome people because many dentists in the area do
not accept Medicaid and local hospitals no longer
house dental services.

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	Cincinnati funders are concerned about the deterioration
of the quality of life in city neighborhoods—the lack
of access to quality food, limited public transportation,
and fraying infrastructure.

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■

 ittsburgh funders are concerned about the poverty
P
of growing numbers of households headed by single
African-American women. And the list goes on.

 oday there is stepped-up concentration on so-called
T
“strategic” grants, which take on wider problems in
multifaceted ways.

Many foundations have responded to the economic down­
turn by trying to do more with less through responsive
grant making. To accomplish that, many are directing
grantees to engage in “intelligent retrenchment”—to focus
on delivering on their core mission and dropping anything
beyond that. Funders are also encouraging grantees to
share resources, collaborate, merge, find alternative revenue
streams, and even to pursue social enterprises.
But increasingly, foundations are looking at opportunities
for initiating strategic grants according to the priorities of
their leadership or in partnership with other organizations.
Foundations make strategic grants, which tend to be longterm, to address their communities’ tough systemic issues.
As we traveled Ohio talking with foundations, we noted
an uptick of interest in strategic funding and initiatives on
the part of community foundations in small towns with
big-city problems. The goal is to make a lasting impact.

The types of foundations are as varied as the types of
challenges regions face. They range from large and small
private and family foundations to corporate and community
foundations. For instance, the ever-present United Way
has lately been balanced in many locations by smaller
“giving circles,” in which individual members pool their
money and jointly decide on projects to fund.

Keith Burwell, president and CEO of the Toledo
Community Foundation, highlights its Overland Park
Community Engagement Project initiative. Through it,
the foundation invests in neighborhood and residential
improvements to bolster the industrial redevelopment of
an 111-acre brownfield site that was once home to a Jeep
factory. While encouraging new businesses to locate in
the neighborhood, the foundation also focuses on training
and employment for residents. In addition, the foundation
has initiatives on education, human trafficking, and lowbirth-weight babies.

Foundations are 501(c)(3) charitable organizations
whose missions determine their funding priorities and
the types of grants they award. Although differences in
the foundation world make it difficult to generalize, we
observed that foundation grants fall into two general
buckets—responsive and strategic.

Another promising strategic and collaborative initiative,
funded by the Dayton Foundation, is Learn to Earn,
a program similar to College Promise. It coordinates
education providers and nonprofit partners to support
children’s readiness to learn by kindergarten and young
adults’ ability to earn a living after they graduate.

The larger bucket is made up of responsive grants, which
in some cases are awarded to organizations that submit
proposals requesting funds for a specific purpose, usually
to address immediate or shorter-term capacity, capital,
or community needs. Some grants are seed money meant
to help organizations start new programs. A small number
are unrestricted; in other words, the organization determines
the best use of funds. There are also challenge and matching
grants and those that contribute to the endowment funds
of nonprofits.

Many funders are also sharpening their focus with
“place-based” or “hyper-local” strategies and investing in
the community development and human capital needs
of specific neighborhoods. The St. Luke’s Foundation in
Cleveland, for example, formerly involved in programs
that fell under the broad “human services” umbrella, has
decided to concentrate on three issues: urban health,
urban families, and neighborhood revitalization.

Addressing the challenges
with different types of grant making

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Another example is the Columbus Foundation–funded
Weinland Park Collaborative, a partnership of many agencies
and organizations working with residents to improve the
housing, safety, education, employment opportunities, and
health outcomes in the Weinland neighbor­hood. Heinz
Endowments in Pittsburgh is also using a comprehensive,
place-based approach and is committed to multiyear
investments in two neighborhoods.
Again, these approaches might best be described as a move
toward more strategic, holistic grant making.
Grants that provide food to families are of course crucial,
but in the long run, it is more crucial to provide grants to
end the root causes of hunger, such as poverty, joblessness,
and neighborhood decay.
A good example of strategic grant making at its best is
Living Cities, a partnership of 22 funders and financial
institutions that supports efforts to better the lives of lowincome individuals, the cities they live in, and the systems
that affect them. The Living Cities Integration Initiative
recently awarded the Cleveland Foundation close to
$15 million in grants and loans to support wealth-building
programs and residential and commercial development
in the University Circle neighborhood. The Integration
Initiative’s focus on Cleveland and four other cities is
based on the notion that a multipronged, long-term,
place-based investment will yield the strongest results.
A local example is the Fund for Our Economic Future,
a 16-county collaboration of funders and other partners
working to advance Northeast Ohio’s long-term economic
competitiveness through strategic grant making, research,
and civic engagement.
Even though the dollar amounts going to strategic investments remain a small part of foundations’ total giving,
the subtle shift could signal a big change in the way they
operate. Grants that provide, say, food to families are of
course crucial, but in the long run, it is more crucial to
provide grants to end the root causes of hunger, such as
poverty, joblessness, and neighborhood decay. In the case
of the Overland Park effort, for example, the trade­off is to
reduce geographic scope in the interest of making a larger
impact in a single area.

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Impact—it’s about connecting the giving

The boomlet in strategic grant making wouldn’t be possible
without foundations’ effort to be more collaborative than in
years past. For example, late last year, five Ohio foundations
joined with Grantmakers in Health to award funds enabling
the Ohio Department of Health to hire a grant writer who
secured $1 million for the Prevention and Public Health
Fund Coordinated Chronic Disease Prevention and Health
Promotion Program.
“Today, there are more ways for people to exercise their
philanthropic impulse,” says George Espy, president of the
Ohio Grantmakers Forum (OGF). “Until recently, most
philanthropy was conducted through foundations and
by bequest. Now there are more living donors than ever
before.” For this reason, and because of the increasing
numbers of giving circles and individual philanthropists,
foundations need to be better at connecting with each
other and with other funders.
That’s the premise behind the OGF’s new education
initiative, in which foundations jointly leverage funds to
educate public officials about the impact of current state
law on students’ performance. OGF and many foundations
comment on tax policy that could adversely affect charitable
giving, such as capping the charitable deduction and not
renewing expiring provisions of the IRA charitable rollover.
Established in 1984, the OGF is a membership organization
of foundations, corporate contributions programs, and
other Ohio philanthropists. It is one of 33 staffed regional
associations of grant makers in the United States. Ohio has
more than 3,000 foundations, most of them independent
rather than corporate or community organizations.
The OGF’s membership of about 200 foundations has
combined assets of close to $11 billion, and it awards more
than $735 million annually—70 percent of all grant making
in the state. In addition to organizing events and programs,
the OGF is active in policy, advocating on behalf of its
members and educating them on the potential impact of
state and federal policy issues on philanthropy.
It’s through connecting and sharing information that
collaboration happens. A case in point was a September
2012 meeting in Toledo convened by the Cleveland Fed
and the Ohio Grantmakers Forum and hosted by a regional
network of Northwest Ohio Funders. At the national
level, the Funders’ Network is a group of foundations
concerned about sustainability, land use, and community
impacts. The group sponsors events and organizes working
groups of funders for shared learning on timely topics.

Working groups aim to enhance funders’ knowledge of
best practices in different areas and to influence policy.
Because their interests are aligned, a number of Reserve
Banks have participated in meetings convened by the
Foundation Network’s working group on restoring
prosperity in older industrial cities.
“It’s important that networks have means for connecting,”
says Espy. “It’s a means for more effective philanthropy
and a way to make a bigger impact on issues.”

Metrics—determining need and measuring success

You can’t manage what you can’t measure, but for grant
makers, measuring is easier said than done. It takes a long
time to see improvements, so metrics must look at the long
horizon. Grant makers are undertaking several efforts for
improving their metrics to better reflect the new way of
strategic grant making.
For example, many community foundations, United Ways,
strategic grant makers, and others interested in effecting
long-lasting change have developed new methods for
determining funding priorities and evaluating success.
The United Way of Central Ohio created an agenda for
community change around 10-year “Bold Goals” for
education, income, health, and neighborhoods. This
agenda guides funding decisions and measures progress
toward the “Bold Goals” against pre-determined “leading
indicators.”
The United Way of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania,
employs a similar model called Community Impact, which
focuses on three key areas: helping children and young
adults to succeed; providing financial stability for families;
and assisting the most vulnerable populations. The collectiveimpact approach has been used by com­munity foundations
to engage a variety of stakeholders in a common agenda
that addresses needs such as public education reform,
economic development, and job creation.
Even with well-thought-out strategies, however, determining success and evaluating effectiveness is a tricky,
expensive, and fluid business. Outcome measures can be
defined for strategic grant making, but they are difficult
to develop for responsive grants. All measures depend
on the grantee and the specific project or initiative, and
foundations are constantly reassessing the relevance of the
benchmarks they’ve given grantees to meet. As community
needs change, foundations alter the way they evaluate
success, so the metrics are ever-changing.

If grant makers hold nonprofits accountable for performance,
who holds grant makers’ feet to the fire? Oversight of
foundations occurs at both the federal and state level. All
nonprofit private foundations are required to file annual
reporting forms with the IRS, providing information
about mission, programs, and finances. At the state level,
the charitable-law section of the Ohio Attorney General’s
Office provides oversight to ensure that funds are spent
in the public interest. Foundations also have self-policing
mechanisms through board oversight or composition.
The boards of public charities are often made up of public
officials who must answer to their constituencies.

Future prospects

The recession’s real impact on grant making is only beginning
to be felt. Grant making sometimes trails the market by
two or three years because decisions are based on returns
on investments and earnings in prior years. In 2011,
foundations gave an estimated $46.9 billion; after taking
inflation into account, their contributions decreased
slightly from 2010. According to projections based on the
Foundation Giving Forecast Survey, grants in 2012 will
remain unchanged at best, and will likely increase only
modestly in 2013.
The lessons learned in lean times are vital. Looking toward
the future, collaborations—among grantees and among
grant makers—hold much promise for informing public
policy by answering the question, what works? And
increasingly, grant makers are showing confidence in the
potential payoffs from strategic grants.
At the Cleveland Fed, our plan is to continue the conversation by working with and informing local, regional,
and national foundations on community and economic
development issues. As more grant makers collaborate
with one another and other agencies on projects of mutual
interest, they may learn ways to effectively and efficiently
align private and public resources, particularly when it
comes to strategic grant making. This type of alignment may
seem elusive to practitioners, but a heightened awareness
of common interests and funding decisions is at least a
first step toward promising synergies. ■

Resources
For more information, check out the Ohio Grantmakers Forum at
www.ohiograntmakers.org

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Behind the Scenes,
Little-Known Group Works
to Harmonize Foreclosure Rules

Thomas J. Fitzpatrick IV
Economist

Mark Greenlee
Counsel

States’ rights are considered as American as mom and apple
pie. But most agree that on some issues, uniformity across
state lines is crucial. For both businesses and consumers,
consistency in state laws can help reduce costs (as with
a firm trying to comply with varying and contradictory
statutes) and improve decisionmaking (as with a person
understanding his consumer rights).
Over the years, a big part of the job of preserving the
delicate balance between state and federal powers has
fallen to a low-profile but enormously important group
of state-government-appointed lawyers, judges, and
legislators. Collectively, they are known as the Uniform
Law Commission (ULC). Since its formation in 1892,
the ULC has prepared more than 250 uniform laws for
possible adoption by the states. Its most prominent
accomplishment is the Uniform Commercial Code,
which governs scores of commercial transactions and
contracts in most states.
Now, the ULC is taking on the mess that is the foreclosure
crisis.
In June of this year, the ULC’s Drafting Committee on
Residential Real Estate Mortgage Foreclosure Process and
Protections met for the first time to discuss drafting an
“overlay” to state laws governing the foreclosure process.

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It’s an interesting intersection of commercial and property
law. States have traditionally guarded property law very
closely. Given the inertia that is built into the legal system
—where precedent tends to rule the day—the challenge
of bringing some uniformity to the practice of foreclosing
on mortgages in different states is substantial.
The 24 topics discussed at the Committee’s first meeting
can be grouped into three categories: alternatives to fore­
closure, borrowers’ rights in foreclosure, and the mechanics
of foreclosure. All three could affect consumers in major
ways, which makes it all the more disappointing that the
initial round of comments drew fewer consumers’ voices
than one would optimally want in drafting policy.
1. A
 lternatives to foreclosure include loan modifications,
short sales, deeds in lieu of foreclosure, and relocation
assistance (also known as Cash for Keys programs).
Many states have established foreclosure mediation
programs in which these options are discussed. During
mediation, the lender may agree to modify the terms
of the loan to allow the borrower to remain in the
house, or, when that is not possible, the borrower and
lender may settle on a graceful exit. The devil is in the
particulars of each state program. Some involve judicial
supervision; others allow borrowers to opt in or out of
the programs. The Committee plans to address how
these programs should fit into the foreclosure process.
The consumer impact is clear: Mediation may determine
whether the borrower stays in her home, walks away, or
is forced to leave—no matter which state the house is
located in.
2. B
 orrowers’ rights raise a number of issues: What kind
of notice should borrowers receive before foreclosure?
A newspaper listing? Regular mail? In-person delivery?
Should the borrower’s right to cure or re-instate a defaulted
loan be addressed? If so, how? How should courts be
involved in the confirmation of foreclosure sales? How
should post-sale redemption work? From the consumer’s
perspective, the way notice, cure, confirmation, and
redemption issues are addressed may affect the amount
of time and money spent on courtroom wrangling.

3. With foreclosure mechanics, the consumer impact isn’t
as immediately obvious. For example, the question of
who can commence a foreclosure and whether that
person needs a complete chain of assignments to foreclose
seems at a glance to lack a consumer angle—until you
realize that many borrowers raise these issues as defenses
against foreclosure. This is an issue we know about
today primarily because of the “robo-signing” scandal
that led to sanctions from the Federal Reserve and a
general settlement between the largest servicers and the
attorneys general of 49 states.
Questions over who can initiate foreclosures have
prompted discussions on whether the uniform law
should create or prepare for a national electronic
mortgage and note registration system. The current
version—the Mortgage Electronic Registration
System (MERS)—has been controversial, in part
because of confusion over whether it should be able to
commence foreclosure proceedings. Since the foreclosure
crisis began, use of MERS has substantially declined, amid
criticism from consumer and community advocates and
court orders barring MERS from filing foreclosure actions.
But that is not to say that a national electronic registration
system would not have value. Rather, it highlights the
importance of improving the legal infrastructure for
transferring mortgages and notes. A new system, operated
by a trusted intermediary with the right incentives for
compliance with the law, may improve market efficiency.
This, in turn, may benefit both lenders and consumers
by providing certainty about who has the right to collect
payments and foreclose on real estate collateral.
Fast-tracking vacant and abandoned housing through the
process is another foreclosure mechanism with divergent
implications for consumers, depending on where they
live. That’s especially true in cases when the home is vacant
and abandoned; borrowers and neighborhoods don’t
benefit from a long and protracted foreclosure process,
and neither do lenders. But fast-tracking is not uniformly
available or easy to secure. Lack of fast-tracking can harm
entire neighborhoods because vacant and abandoned
properties decay and are vandalized during the lengthy
foreclosure process. On the other hand are legitimate
concerns about the potential for improper use of expedited
foreclosures, perhaps when a property has not truly been
abandoned by its owner. The Committee must consider
these issues as it crafts the uniform law.

There are many additional, more technical aspects of the
foreclosure law that the Committee is still determining
whether or how to address, all of them important to
different stakeholders in the realm of housing finance
and ownership. The Committee is in the early stages of
the process. As it decides on its approach to the issues, a
model law will be drafted and eventually presented for
adoption by the full ULC; then the process of introducing
bills in the individual states will start.

But, to be blunt, the
process needs more input.
Approximately 60 people attended the first ULC meeting,
including representatives of large residential mortgage
originators, government-sponsored enterprises that
purchase residential mortgages, financial institutions’
trade associations, banking regulators, state attorneys
general, and consumer advocates. But consumers were
under-represented, and that needs to change.
Experts who work with these laws every day know the
pragmatic impact that changing a single word can have:
A “may” becomes a “shall”; an “and” becomes an “or.” In the
Committee’s future meetings, more expert input from all
viewpoints would be extremely useful in ensuring that the
proposed draft makes sense for all stakeholders. In fact, the
Committee has specifically called for more consumers to
weigh in on the proposed “overlay” to state laws governing
the foreclosure process. Not only will a broad spectrum of
voices help produce a better proposal, but state legislatures
are more likely to adopt laws that have been vetted by all
parties. ■

Resources
During the drafting process, the Committee holds open meetings
at which it solicits citizens’ input and feedback. Sign up to follow
this Committee and be notified of future meetings at
http://uniformlaws.org/Committees.aspx

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H t Topic
What Is the Taylor Rule and
What Is It Good (and Not Good) For?
The Taylor rule is not exactly a rule,
but it is a useful tool to help economists and Federal Reserve officials
think about how they should conduct
monetary policy. Forefront talks
to the Cleveland Fed’s Todd Clark,
vice president of macroeconomics
and monetary policy, about the
Taylor rule’s ins and outs.

Forefront talks
to the Cleveland
Fed’s Todd Clark,
vice president of
macro­economics and
monetary policy.

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Forefront: The Taylor rule, named for
economist John Taylor, says that central
banks should change interest rates
based on movements in inflation and
how far the economy is performing from
its potential. I’ve heard that in practice,
the Taylor rule encourages policymakers
to “lean against the wind.” Do you think
that’s an accurate description?
Clark: Yes, I think that is an accurate
characterization of the spirit of the
Taylor rule and other rules like it.
To achieve its long-run goals of price
stability and maximum employment,
the Federal Reserve needs to move
the target for the federal funds rate in
a systematic way in order to stabilize
economic activity and inflation. The
Taylor rule conveniently boils things
down to just two indicators: inflation
relative to target and the level of
economic activity relative to the
economy’s potential.

Forefront: What does the Taylor rule
(generally speaking) prescribe if growth
is going gangbusters and inflation is
ramping up?
Clark: As the economy expands above
its potential and inflation rises above
target [the Federal Open Market
Committee’s (FOMC) objective is
2 percent], the Fed should raise interest
rates. Conversely, as the economy
contracts below its potential and
inflation falls below target, the Taylor
rule prescribes lower interest rates. In
both cases, the Fed would be leaning
against the wind. The Taylor rule
provides a quantitative prescription
for how much leaning is needed by
drawing on the historical behavior of
Federal Reserve monetary policy.
Forefront: Do FOMC members walk into
their meetings expecting to strictly follow
the prescriptions of the Taylor rule?
Clark: To be clear upfront, I have never
surveyed FOMC members on this
question. That said, I feel comfortable
saying I don’t think FOMC members
—current or past—view a policy
rule like the Taylor rule as something
that needs to be precisely followed.
Rather, the rule serves as a convenient
guidepost by providing an effective
summary of the past behavior of
monetary policy. Also, in theoretical
models, the rule tends to work well
(compared to other possible rules)
in stabilizing the economy. Some
FOMC members have explicitly
described the Taylor rule that way in
public comments.

Forefront: One could argue that precise
adherence to a policy rule would under­
mine the need for the FOMC in the first
place, and that this would be a good
thing, inasmuch as it would make
monetary policy decisions less vulnerable to short-term political pressure.
Conceivably, a computer could set
monetary policy by following the
Taylor rule.
Clark: Yes, but at any time, the

FOMC may have good reason to
depart from the guidepost due to
economic circum­stances being more
complicated than can be captured by
just the economic activity and inflation
indicators included in the rule. Financial
conditions are a good example. Due to
financial conditions being unusually
good or bad, the FOMC might have
reason to keep interest rates above
or below the prescriptions of the
Taylor rule.
Forefront: What was the Taylor rule
telling the Fed in the years before the
financial crisis? That is, some have
argued that if it had closely followed
the Taylor rule, the Fed would have
raised rates sooner and faster, perhaps
heading off an asset bubble. Do you
think that’s a fair characterization?
Clark: One of the things that

evaluations of the pre-crisis period
highlighted is that different versions
of the Taylor rule, each with some
merit, can sometimes yield fairly
different policy prescriptions. John
Taylor himself has pointed out that
his original, simple version of the rule
calls for short-term interest rates that
would have been significantly higher
in the pre-crisis period than they
actually were. Others have pointed
out that some versions of the rule
imply interest rate settings reasonably
close to the actual course of monetary
policy during the pre-crisis period.
These other versions of the rule are
thought by some to have advantages,

The contrast between the United States and the United Kingdom provides a very
simple indication that monetary policy was not the driver of the boom and bust.

such as basing the rule setting on
forecasts of economic activity and
inflation instead of past values, in
order to make policy as captured by
the rule looking forward, as it is in
practice. These other versions of the
rule also take account of the fact that
at the time policy decisions are made,
they have to be made on the basis of
the preliminary data measures available
at the time, not the revised measures
available much later in time.
Forefront: Okay, but what do you think?
Clark: Overall, personally, I think
Chairman Bernanke’s January 2010
speech to the American Economic
Association made a persuasive case
that the bulk of the evidence suggests
that the course of monetary policy
in the pre-crisis period was broadly
consistent with Taylor-type rules and
that other factors were the primary
drivers of the bubble that eventually
burst. To me, at least, the contrast
between the United States and the
United Kingdom provides a very
simple indication that monetary policy
was not the driver of the boom and
bust: The UK experienced a housing
boom and bust similar to the one in
the US, despite having higher interest
rates in the pre-crisis period.

Forefront: If the Taylor rule is a useful
guidepost for FOMC members, how
would you describe its usefulness to
economists in general? How do you use
the Taylor rule—or any policy rule—
when preparing economic forecasts,
for example?
Clark: The Taylor rule is useful to
economists in the same general way
it can be useful to FOMC members,
especially for modeling. Any economic
model used for forecasting or other
types of macroeconomic analysis has
to include an equation that describes
the behavior of monetary policy. This
equation usually relates the federal
funds rate to a handful of economic
indicators, covering economic activity
and inflation. That equation doesn’t
have to follow exactly the form of a
Taylor rule, but it will have the same
kinds of properties. In particular, the
equation for the federal funds rate
will reflect systematic responses of
monetary policy to economic activity
and inflation. In my own modeling, I
find the specific form of the Taylor rule
to be helpful because it is so simple
and familiar to many. Being able to refer
to the Taylor rule greatly simplifies
explaining to others the behavior of
monetary policy in the model. ■

Recommended reading
For more on the Taylor rule, read “Gaps versus Growth Rates in the
Taylor Rule” by Charles T. Carlstrom and Timothy S. Fuerst at
www.clevelandfed.org/research/commentary/2012/2012-17.cfm

“Policy Rules in Macroeconomic Forecasting Models” by Todd E. Clark at
www.clevelandfed.org/research/commentary/2012/2012-17.cfm

Speech
For the full text of Chairman Bernanke’s January 2010 speech to the
American Economic Association, visit
www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20100103a.htm

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The Illustrated
Economics of Education
The typical American city has become one big lab for education experiments.
Charter schools compete with public schools. There are voucher programs in
Milwaukee and teacher evaluations in Los Angeles (and in scores of communities
in between). The stakes are high—the country’s global standing depends on
the quality of its human capital and its capacity for innovation and economic
growth.
Just as every industry requires effective R&D to prosper, so too does the
education system. But ideas need to be tested. New programs change lives—
for teachers, parents, and, most importantly, for children. We are still in the
learning stage for many new efforts.
As educators and policymakers try out new approaches, economists make
progress on the all-important question of what works. Earlier this year, the
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland and the University of Kentucky hosted
a two-day workshop, the Economics of Education. A panel of economists
presented analyses of a cross section of some promising reform efforts.
The upshot of these studies is that figuring out what works is complicated.
Sometimes, ideas that seem so intuitively sensible can have unintended results.
For example, some efforts to create smaller schools have drawn controversy
in recent years. Everything else being equal, smaller schools might seem like a
perfect solution, but changing the size of schools might also change the caliber
of the teaching staff and the composition of the student body; forced moves
might also have disruptive effects on students. The fact is that many factors
are at play in determining educational outcomes.
Education reforms are serious business and important to get right. The research
summarized here only hints at some of the pitfalls reformers may encounter.
—Doug Campbell

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Distributing Teachers
across School Systems
The University of Kentucky’s Tom Ahn asks how
school systems can keep a good mix of teachers in
every school, instead of concentrating too many
high-quality teachers in some schools to the detriment of others.
Ahn tried to figure out how mobile teachers really
are in the relatively rigid, seniority-based labor
market for teachers, and how much discretion
principals have in hiring the best ones. Another
way of thinking about it: How can policymakers
slow the hemorrhaging of good young teachers
who accrue human capital at underperforming
schools and transfer to high-performing schools
when their skills would most benefit the students
they taught earlier?
Ahn concludes that keeping “good” teachers at
“bad” schools means changing the characteristics
that make schools bad. That may involve the
mix of teachers, of course, but it also may depend
on the mix of students as well as the building,
resources, and curriculums. To keep “good”
teachers, you have to give them
a reason to stay.

How Teacher Accountability
Programs Can Backfire
Tying teacher compensation to student out­comes
(particularly test scores) is a proven technique
for improving teachers’ performance, but it is no
panacea. Teachers could have incentives to game
the system to their benefit.
Hugh Macartney of Duke University gets at this
conundrum by investigating how fifth-grade
teachers in K-5 schools perform compared
with their counterparts in K-6 and K-8 schools.
According to the theory of rational economic
behavior, fifth-grade teachers in K-5 schools will
put no lid on their effort to help students achieve
high test scores. After all, they needn’t worry that
the high bar they’ve set will matter in their school
the following year, when their students will have
moved on to a new school. The result is known
as the “ratchet effect.”

By contrast, fifth-grade teachers in K-8 schools
will respond (again, in theory) by putting in less
effort so that the continuing students won’t have
set as hard a target for the upper-grade teachers.
As Macartney puts it, “a strong performance
today makes it more difficult to reap a bonus
tomorrow.”
Macartney found some evidence that this theory
is validated in practice—with distortions from
average test scores of between 12 percent and
22 percent. Granted, there are plenty of other
reasons that might explain what the data show.
The lesson is that whatever structure is in place,
it’s important to think through how people might
respond. What works in a K-5 school might not in
a K-8.

Do High School Teachers
Really Matter?
That is the title of a provocative study by
Northwestern University’s Kirabo Jackson. The
prevailing wisdom in the economics of education
is that teachers matter quite a bit. A body of
literature points to teachers as the most important
factor in determining students’ success.
But Jackson noted that this conclusion is based on
studies of elementary school teachers, while high
school students are exposed to different teachers,
tracks, and classmates. So “students who take
Algebra 1 with Mr. Smith may take physics with
Mr. Black, whose teaching has a direct effect on
algebra scores.” The consequence of this and
other sources of bias is that student outcomes
depend on more than one teacher or factor.
Jackson‘s methodology tries to account for “track
treatment effects.” He looks at Algebra 1 and
English 1 students in North Carolina and finds
that the teacher makes only a slight difference
in algebra test scores and almost none in English
scores. The nettlesome implication for policy­
makers is that it is very hard to distinguish between
the effects of teachers and those of the tracks or
peer groups to which students are assigned. If
high school teachers are compensated according
to the same evaluation formula as elementary
school teachers, then Jackson’s research suggests
that someone will be mismeasured. In the end,
we all pay for that misappropriation.

Why Charter Schools Open
When and Where They Do
Charter schools have emerged as a force in urban
areas, where underperforming schools are legion.
They are publicly funded but are independent of
school districts. In theory—and often in practice—
their flexibility in teaching methods makes them
good alternatives for many families.
The amount of public funding that charters
receive depends on the number of students they
teach, so potential entrants into the charter market
must think carefully about the size and quality of
their pool of potential students and which neighborhood to open in, among other factors. Maria
Marta Ferreyra of Carnegie Mellon University took
an unvarnished look at how the proprietors of
charter schools decide when and where to open,
and how households choose them. Her study area
was Washington, DC, between 2003 and 2007.
The most important of Ferreyra’s many conclusions
may be that some charters are better than others,
not because of their outstanding curriculums
or staff, but because of the choices they made
before opening. Charters are shaking up education
through innovation and competition, but it’s
crucial not to conflate a wise entry choice with an
effective curriculum or teaching staff.

Charter Schools

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It’s Not Whether to
Go to College—It’s Where
On average, college graduates earn more than
non-graduates, and graduates of elite schools
make more than graduates of non-elite ones.
But that’s not the end of the story. Where students
of different abilities decide to attend is really
important. Would it be sensible for a student of
relatively low ability to attend an elite school if
accepted? There’s no straight­forward answer.
A sophisticated examination of how college quality
affects post-graduate earnings is provided by
Rodney Andrews, of the University of Texas–
Dallas, and his co-authors. Instead of examining
the average effect of college quality on earnings,

the authors look at the distribution of returns,
drawing some compelling results from data on
public colleges in Texas.
For example, a student in the bottom 10 percent
of their class at University of Texas–Austin
enjoyed a college premium of about 2.7 percent,
but the premium was almost 32 percent for
someone in the 97th percentile. This suggests that
the lower-ability student might have made better
use of college and earned more by attending a
different school.
The policy implications apply mainly to guidance
professionals: It’s important to consider a student’s
background and likely career path before advising
which school to attend.

Underlying Reasons
for Dropping Out
We don’t want students giving up on college
because of money problems, social difficulties, or
lack of encouragement from parents or mentors.
The University of Western Ontario’s Todd
Stinebrickner homes in on one of the leading
non-financial explanations for dropouts—that
students discover how well they are likely to
perform only after entering college and studying
for a while. Some may find their courses harder
than they’d expected. Stinebrickner’s major
contribution is disentangling whether students
drop out because they find out about low future
wages or because a school is really unpleasant. As
it happens, 60 percent of dropouts are associated
with the unpleasantness factor.
A big policy implication is that schools could and
should do more to help students bounce back
from a bad semester, because many students
could do substantially better just by toughing it
out. We want students to drop out only for sound
reasons, and finding out that college is hard does
not qualify.

Neighborhood
Effects
Where people live affects a whole range of
outcomes, including educational attainment. In
the mid-1990s, five cities participated in Moving
to Opportunity, a major effort to improve people’s
living situations by giving housing vouchers to lowincome families. The goal was to help them move
to better neighborhoods, and it was assumed that
better education outcomes would be among the
many improvements for these families’ children.
Unfortunately, the results did not bear that out.
In fact, the program had neither very positive nor
very negative effects on learning performance.
Building on their previous work, the Cleveland
Fed’s Dionissi Aliprantis and Francisca Richter
argue that it’s not that “moving” programs don’t
work; it’s that Moving to Opportunity, in particular,
mainly succeeded in letting some people move
from very bad neighborhoods into only slightly
better ones. It’s still plausible that a more even
distribution of students (measured by their families’
incomes) among schools would lead to better
outcomes. Bottom line: Neighborhood effects
exist and are still worth studying.

Recommended reading
For the full text of papers presented at the
UK–FRBC workshop, go to
http://gatton.uky.edu/Economics/2012Workshop/

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P licy Watch

Why Can’t Some States
Balance Their Budgets?

Jean Burson
Policy Advisor, with Jacob Kuipers
Research Intern

With the recovery slowly taking hold, now is a natural time
for state and local governments to begin getting serious
about shoring up their battered finances. The 50 states face
varying degrees of fiscal difficulty. A few of them managed
to come through the Great Recession without incurring
budget shortfalls, but many have piled up more debt on
budgets that were already groaning under the weight of
chronically underfunded pensions.
What accounts for these differences among states, and why
will some have a harder time getting their affairs in order
than others? In many, limited budget tools hamper law­
makers. In others, the reasons have been institutionalized
into their constitutions and policies. In some states, a
polarized political climate bedevils budget reforms. In
various combinations, these forces may hamstring policy­
makers who could otherwise respond quickly and efficiently.
At the same time, some states seem to keep their finances
in balance smoothly and consistently.

Against that backdrop,
we present a primer on
how these different forces
may combine to affect policymakers’ ability to respond to a
fiscal crisis—and why some states
may weather fiscal storms better than others.

Force no. 1: Budget tools
Many states keep rainy day funds to offset unexpected
budget deficits. These funds vary in size, but most states
set aside about 5 percent of annual expenditures, an
amount that is often insufficient to address a serious
crisis. Several states have adopted restrictions to prevent
frivolous spending, such as requiring a supermajority vote
(more than 50 percent) to release funds; limiting the
amounts that can be disbursed at one time; or imposing
unrealistic requirements for replenishing the fund. A rainy
day fund may sound like a good idea, but the restrictions
just mentioned can delay or even prevent tapping the
fund when it is most needed. The lesson here is that states
must strike a balance between restrictions that preserve
the funds during surplus years and those that limit their
use during deficit years.

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On this front in particular, independent fiscal agencies
—nonpartisan, publicly funded organizations like the
California Legislative Analyst’s Office or New York’s
Legislative Finance Committee—can give state officials
objective fiscal and policy analysis and guidance. This
increases the likelihood that officials will recognize problems early enough to seek an effective solution, preferably
before they must tap rainy day funds. Fiscal agencies are
most effective when they are appropriately funded
and truly independent and enjoy a solid reputation
		 with the media and the general public. In times of
		 crisis, they can be a state government’s best friend.

			 Force no. 2: Institutional requirements
				Most states have constitutional requirements for
				balanced budgets, but how a balanced budget is
			 defined and how well requirements are enforced
		 can vary greatly. Some states are barred from carrying
		 deficits into the following fiscal year or issuing debt to
		 finance a deficit. Others require only that shortfalls in
their operating budget are corrected, but allow deficits
to pile up in other parts of their budgets, like pension
funding. In fact, the pension problem is a prime reason
why some states are in their current budget predicaments,
while others have closed budget gaps more effectively.
Balancing a budget in times of economic strain would
be hard enough in itself. But several states must also clear
the hurdle of a supermajority voting requirement for
legislation on taxes and appropriations. While intended
to safeguard against abuse by one party, this requirement
can also result in deals in which earmarks are promised to
gain additional votes that ultimately increase the budget
burden. Supermajorities in practice have proven less than
optimal for many states.

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Another institutional force is at work in states where
budget-related legislation must be approved by the public.
Of course, gaining voters’ approval for budget-related
legislation requires a significant investment in time and
resources to inform the public and put the issue on the
ballot. Even then, the risk that voters will not approve new
taxes remains, reducing a state’s flexibility in responding
to fiscal stress. Likewise, in states with tax and expenditure
limits, state officials have less flexibility in responding to
changing public needs or complying with expenditures
imposed by federal mandate.
Old policy hands would be especially useful at times like
these, but their numbers have been depleted by term limits,
another institutional effort to reduce the influence of
special interests. What’s sacrificed here is experience,
which deepens elected officials’ knowledge of complex
legislative processes such as budget development. Firsttime legislators, however, often rely on the advice of career
administrators or even special interest groups that may
not share the views of the legislator or the voters who
elected her.
Finally, some states have institutionalized the use of
voter referendums, which empower citizens to enact
legislation through statewide ballot initiatives. Although
special interests could potentially drive the process, these
referendums can be an effective channel for voter-enacted
changes. Often, referendums are a means of imposing
requirements, like those we have cited, on the state.
Still, it’s important to recognize the possibility that voter
referendums could limit a state’s flexibility in responding
to a fiscal crisis. Almost half of the states have a voter
referendum process, but they vary widely in the frequency
with which they use it.

Force no. 3: Political environment

A path forward

Ah, politics—a necessary but often cumbersome part of
our democratic process. The balance of power between
political parties can strongly influence the effectiveness of
state government. The notion that a balance of political
power between factions inevitably leads to legislative
gridlock is often false. Split legislatures can make effective
decisions based on robust political debate and a comprehensive representation of the electorate. On the other
hand, crises often call for rapid responses, and having one
political party in control can increase the likelihood of
decisive action. Under the pressure of a fiscal threat, this
can be preferable to letting two equally powerful parties
duke it out.

In a fiscal crisis, state officials must always make difficult
and unpopular policy choices. For some states, the choices
are especially hard. The budget tools available, the underlying institutional infrastructure, and the current political
environment all weigh on policymakers.

While fringe organizations are part of the democratic
process, they can reduce bipartisanship and make it more
difficult for states to reach compromise on fiscal issues.
These organizations’ potential influence on subsets of the
voting public could encourage legislative gridlock. They
cannot be ignored, and they can really get in the way.
The solution? You. Ultimately, it’s up to voters to tell
their representatives what they want. High levels of voter
participation that encourage elected officials’ accountability
can either offset or contribute to gridlock, depending on
which segments of the voting population are most engaged
(e.g., if only senior citizens show up at the polling place,
then only their views will be reflected).

Ultimately, it’s up to voters to tell their representatives
what they want. High levels of voter participation that
encourage elected officials’ accountability can either offset
or contribute to gridlock, depending on which segments
of the voting population are most engaged.
But these obstacles are by no means insurmountable.
History suggests that policymakers, especially those
backed by an informed electorate, can successfully
navigate their states’ political infrastructure and use the
tools available to bring their finances in balance. The first
step is to proactively consider how different factors might
interact in the midst of a financial emergency. In fact, it
might make sense to remedy some of them now so that
we needn’t do so when the next crisis arrives. ■

Recommended reading
For an in-depth analysis of states’ rainy day funds, see McNichol and
Boadi, “Why and How States Should Strengthen Their Rainy Day Funds,”
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, February 2011, at
www.cbpp.org/files/2-3-11sfp.pdf

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Book Review

America’s First Great Depression:
Economic Crisis and Political
Disorder after the Panic of 1837
by Alasdair Roberts
Cornell University Press, 2012

Reviewed by
Daniel Littman
Economist

The financial crisis that began in 2008 has enriched our
vocabulary, even as it has impoverished the millions of
people who were laid off in the last few years. Old terms
were revived and new terms coined to describe the causes
and consequences of the crisis, terms like asset bubble,
financial innovation, sovereign debt crisis, and deregulation.

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But the Great Recession was not the first of its kind in the
United States, nor was its vocabulary novel. In a new book
about the Panic of 1837, America’s most severe antebellum
financial collapse, Alasdair Roberts, a professor at Suffolk
Law School in Boston, shows the parallels between our
current predicament and that of our ancestors 175 years
ago. The old axiom, “those who cannot learn from history
are doomed to repeat it,” has seldom been more apt.

The asset bubble that precipitated the 2008 downturn
arose in the US housing market. In the 1830s, the asset
bubble was land prices throughout the United States,
but especially in the new states and territories west of
the Appalachian Mountains. In the mid-1830s, land prices
in rapidly growing locales such as Milwaukee, Chicago,
St Louis, and New Orleans were rising at rates comparable
to home prices in Tampa; Orange County, California;
Phoenix; and Las Vegas in the early 2000s.
In 2008, the financial innovations that helped swell the
bubble were synthetic mortgage-backed securities and
credit default swaps. The financial innovation that helped
inflate the 1830s land bubble was a spectacular expansion
in the number of state-chartered commercial banks, with
their minimally supervised issuance of banknotes. All
US banks at that time, save the Second Bank of the
United States (the nation’s second central bank; the Federal
Reserve is the third), were state chartered. And nearly all
of the bank­notes in circulation were the obligations of
those banks.
In 2008, a sovereign debt crisis began among members
of the European Union, including Greece, Spain, and
Portugal. Defaults of US cities, like Stockton, California,
also occurred. The sovereign debt crisis of the late 1830s
involved the default and, in most cases, the repudiation of
debts incurred by the governments of states like Michigan,
Louisiana, and many others. These states had been
profligate in issuing bonds during the 1830s to finance
such internal improvements as canals, railroads, and
opera houses, projects that became unaffordable when
prosperity turned to panic.
Finally, it is widely accepted that either deregulation
or failure to vigorously regulate new activities like the
derivatives business (including credit default swaps)
played a key role in the recent crisis. In the 1830s, too,

deregulation helped fuel the crisis. This deregulation came
in the form of the Jackson Administration’s decision to
oppose rechartering the Second Bank of the United States.
The Second Bank’s national network had acted as a brake
on the uncontrolled banknote issuance of state-chartered
banks. Deregulation was also reflected in the federal action
of moving the Treasury’s funds out of the Bank of the
United States and into a large number of so-called pet
banks scattered around the nation.
The beauty of Roberts’ book is that the reader can see
the entire arc of the 1837 crisis, from beginning to end,
in a historical context—something that studies of the
2008 event will lack for many years to come.
The 1837 panic and the subsequent depression seem to
have had some permanent effects on banking and national
economic policy that stay with us today. Among these longlasting consequences are most states’ closer supervision
of banks and banknote issuance (state banknote issuance
ended in the 1870s), states’ greater efforts to continually
balance their budgets year-in and year-out, and the as­
sump­tion (starting in the 1840s) of a greater federal role
in shaping economic policy.
While it is true that all financial crises have certain elements
in common, the parallels between pre-industrial America’s
1837 financial crisis and that of our own time are particularly
strong. The beauty of Roberts’ book is that the reader can
see the entire arc of the crisis, from beginning to end, in
a historical context—something that studies of the 2008
event will lack for many years to come.
Roberts nicely combines narrative history with analysis.
His book is accessible to both the expert and the novice in
economic history. Highly recommended. ■

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Interview with
Karen Dynan
T

he fate of the economic
recovery, we are often
told, rests in the hands of
American households. If
they are confident, they will
spend and invest, boosting
growth. But if they remain
uncertain and anxious in the
aftermath of the financial
crisis, they could hunker
down and take the economy
with them.
Which way will households
go? There are few better
authorities on that question
than Karen Dynan—although
she will be the first to tell
you that there is no straightforward answer.
As co-director of economic
studies at the Brookings
Institution, Dynan spends
much of her time thinking
about the interplay between
the wider economy and US
consumers. A prolific author,
her contributions are well
known in the academic
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her papers having appeared
in publications that include
the Journal of Economic
Perspectives and the
American Economic Review.
She has testified before
Congress, published articles
on how the household debt
overhang holds back consumption, and written for
the Washington Post and
the Financial Times on issues
ranging from Federal Reserve
policy to myths about Black
Friday (myth number 2:
Sales on Black Friday make
or break retailers’ holiday
shopping season).
Mark Sniderman, the
Cleveland Fed’s executive
vice president and chief
policy officer, interviewed
Dynan on November 9,
2012. She was visiting
Cleveland to discuss her
research and views with
Bank economists and senior
leadership. The following
interview has been edited
and condensed.

Sniderman: I want to start by asking
you a little bit about being an economist.
When did you first know that it was the
career for you and, along the way, what
have you learned about the profession?
Dynan: I discovered the field of

economics in college. I’d always been
good in math and sciences and statistics,
but I really wanted to do something
to help people. When I took my first
economics class I knew it was right
for me because it gave me a chance
to use my skills, but also it provided
a wonderful way to help people by
affecting public policy. That was really
what whetted my appetite.
Later, after college, I went on to
become a research assistant at the
Federal Reserve Board, working on
monetary policy, and that was just
such a wonderful experience, being
able to learn about monetary policy,
understand the ways in which it
affects the economy. So that is when
I decided to go to graduate school to
become an economist.

Dynan: It was a period when some

pretty big mistakes were made and
there’s lots of blame to go around.
The roots of the financial crisis were
in the fact that too much risk was being
taken. Too much risk was being taken
by households. Too much risk was
being taken in the financial system by
financial institutions—banks, investors.
Regulation didn’t do what it was
supposed to do. It didn’t recognize
the risks as they were building up.
Things might have worked out okay if
the housing bubble hadn’t burst, but
in fact it did burst. And that caused
a lot of these risks to come home to
roost. People suddenly found themselves with mortgages they couldn’t
sustain. Financial institutions found
themselves exposed to losses that
they didn’t expect because they didn’t
understand how much risk they had
been taking.

Sniderman: What’s your take on the
way that we as a nation have responded
to the crisis legislatively?
Dynan: I think that it’s pretty clear

what direction we needed to move in.
We needed to move in a direction
that put in place a regulatory system
that was better able to protect people
and protect financial institutions
from excessively risky behavior.
We’ve redesigned regulations and,
yes, the laws are complicated. That’s
not surprising—the financial system
is very, very complicated. Nobody
wants unnecessary and burdensome
regulations. I think the regulatory
community understands that. But the
challenge is going to be how to get
the right amount of regulation, given

how complicated things are. A lot of
it is still being worked out. They’re
still studying exactly how we should
implement these laws. And I think
that’s very appropriate, given how
hard the problem is.

If you think of credit supply as a
pendulum, we had swung way too
far in one direction, in the direction of
easy credit during the lead-up to the
financial crisis. And now we’ve swung
way too far in the other direction.
What you’re looking for is a balance.
You’re looking for the right amount
of regulation, such that credit can still
flow and people and businesses can
still enjoy the benefits of credit while
being protected against the worst
abuses associated with credit and
reducing the exposure of the system to
the kind of meltdown we saw during
the financial crisis. That is going to be
a hard balance to achieve. And I think
regulators need to study the problem,
they need to try to work out the
solution, but they also—after we’ve
put in place the solution—they need
to continue to study the problem.
They need to see whether we’ve gone
too far. They need to be ready to be
responsive to that.
Sniderman: Are there aspects of all the
regulations that have been put in place
that even today you would look at and
say, gee, maybe we’ve imposed too much
red tape or too many complications?
Dynan: I think in many senses it’s too

early to know. What we do know is
that, if you think of credit supply as a
pendulum, we had swung way too far
in one direction, in the direction of
easy credit during the lead-up to the
financial crisis. And now we’ve swung
way too far in the other direction.
Credit is still very hard to get and
that’s holding back the economy.

CHRIS PAPPAS

Now, in terms of what I’ve learned
along the way—and I’m still learning
—the number-one lesson is that
economics is really hard. The world is
a complicated place and when you’re
given your formal training, you’re often
told to describe the world using these
very simple and stylized models. The
entire Federal Reserve System might
be described by the letter p for prices
and m for money. But you know, as
I’ve gone on to work in policy and
particularly as we have lived through
this financial crisis and tried to use
policy to respond to the crisis, I’ve
learned that the world is far more
complicated. There are constraints
and incentives that people and businesses and financial institutions face
that are far more complicated than
any economic model will tell you.
You have to think about all these
things as you are setting policy.

Sniderman: Your having answered that
question that way makes me nervous to
ask you the next one, because I’m giving
you just a few minutes to deliver a very
complex analysis. Coming through the
worst financial crisis since the Great
Depression, what do you think we have
learned and should have learned? And
what are the lessons for public policy
and for economics?

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Karen Dynan

Harvard University, PhD in economics

Position

Vice president, co-director of economic studies, and
Robert S. Kerr Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution
Former Positions

Economist and staff adviser at the Federal Reserve Board

Brown University, AB
Selected Publications

“Is Household Debt Overhang Holding Back Consumption?”
Brookings Papers on Economic Activity, Spring 2012.

Senior economist at the White House Council of
Economic Advisers

“How We’re Doing as Debt Fears Rise,”
The Brookings Institution and the Washington Post, May 23, 2010.

Visiting assistant professor at Johns Hopkins University

“Changing Household Financial Opportunities and Economic Security,”
Journal of Economic Perspectives, November 2009.

Now, we don’t know exactly why. We
don’t know if lenders don’t want to
lend because of the normal caution
that comes with a weak economy or
whether it has something to do with
the new regulations. That’s something
that we’re going to have to study over
time. There’s also the whole issue of the
uncertainty about future regulation.
The Dodd–Frank law is still being
implemented and there are parts of it
that still require the details to be written
down. I think it’s very hard for financial
institutions to design their lending
strategy until that’s all worked out.
Sniderman: There are differences of
opinion among some economists about
how to think about regulation. There
are some who—to paint the extremes
here—say that all we need for markets
to work effectively is transparency and
disclosure; you want to provide good
instruction manuals and provide warnings
and tell people how to use these products,
but after that it’s caveat emptor. You don’t
get into this nanny state with consumers.
Other people have the view that people
in certain instances are just going to
make bad choices. You should prohibit
certain products; you should prevent
people from harming themselves by outlawing and regulating. Have you formed
any views about that tradeoff?
Dynan: One important lesson that

we’ve drawn from the financial crisis
is that there are real limits to people’s
capacity to process information. The
fact of the matter is that managing
one’s finances is really complicated.

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It’s complicated even for people
like me with training in economics,
and I’m married to an economist
[Douglas Elmendorf, director of the
Congressional Budget Office]. I know
how complicated these decisions are.
I think it’s been a real lesson that we
shouldn’t just emphasize providing
information.

Sniderman: One of the other things
that has come up in the aftermath of
the financial crisis is a rethinking of
housing finance. With the governmentsponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac scaling down, how do you
think about what we should be doing
with housing policy?

During the run-up to the financial
crisis, people signed on for mortgage
products that I’m sure had ample
paper­work describing what the payments would be and how the payments
might adjust as, say, interest rates
moved. But I think we’ve seen evidence
that many people didn’t really understand that that’s what they were signing
up for. What this tells me is that it’s
not just about providing a lot of information; it’s the type of information
you provide.

Freddie. The financial crisis illustrated
that our pre-crisis housing finance
system—which was dominated by
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—really
had severe deficiencies that ended up
leading to too much risk in the financial
system. In thinking about how we
should reform these entities, three
principles come to mind.

So we really need to think about
designing simple, low-cost products
that are easily understood by a wide
range of the population. I also think we
can learn from behavioral economics.
Oftentimes when people don’t have
the time or ability to understand a
complicated financial situation, they
take cues from their peers, or from
their employment, or even from what
they’re seeing on TV. That’s taught us
that it’s very important how you set up
the defaults of any kind of situation.
We need to think harder about what
the baseline offering is, because I
think people will take that as a piece
of advice that, yes, this is a good
financial product.

Dynan: Let me start with Fannie and

First of all, I think we need explicit and
limited government guarantees for
mortgage loans. In the old system, the
guarantees were implicit and essentially
provided a subsidy to Fannie and
Freddie that incentivized them to take
on too much risk. So I think we need
to move towards guarantees on loans
that are explicit and priced to correctly
reflect the risk of the underlying loan.
The second principle that I think we
need to keep in mind is that securitization really needs to move back into
the private sector. Fannie and Freddie
have been in conservatorship since
2008, which essentially means that
the government has been doing all
of their activities, both securitizing
the loans and guaranteeing the loans.
While I think the government should
continue to be a guarantor of certain
loans, the securitization activity really
should move back into the private

sector because the private sector is
going to be more efficient at it and is
more likely to innovate in ways that
save money. And when it moves back,
we need to move it back in such a
way that there’s not just one or two
institutions dominating the whole
market, because in that situation you
would end up with entities that were
too big to fail, which would lead to
excessive risk-taking.
Sniderman: The status quo.
Dynan: Right. The third principle is

that we need to get a plan in place as
soon as we can. Not that we need to
move to the new housing system as
soon as we can—the housing market
is still in a lot of trouble and maybe
it’s right for the government to have
such a large role right now. But we
need to get the plan in place, because
right now the situation we’re in is
kind of housing finance limbo. It’s
very difficult for lenders to go about
their activities making mortgage
loans when they don’t know what the
future mortgage finance environment
is going to be. It makes it very hard
for them to make loans today, and it
makes it hard for them to strategize
about the future.

Sniderman: I think we’ve seen in other
realms, as with the Basel accords,
when they set these new standards,
they typically give these long phase-in
periods. I think you’re saying, let’s give
people a flight path to where we’re
headed and a time frame.
Dynan: Yes. I think it would make it

easier for everyone to plan, to know
where we’re headed.

Sniderman: What are your thoughts
about the scale of this? You said we
should let securitization become private,
but the guarantee system could remain
public. Would there be more limited
types of guarantees to all forms of
owner-occupied housing?
Dynan: One question that’s still under

debate is whether we need these
guarantees in order to have 30-year,
fixed-rate mortgages. If you look
across countries, for example, the
30-year, fixed-rate mortgage mostly

is a product that’s seen in the United
States. Some people would argue that
is because we have these guarantees
on mortgages. So maybe that’s an
argument for having guarantees.
More importantly, we need to have the
capacity to do enough guaranteeing
so that we can keep credit flowing if
the mortgage market seizes up again.
I also think the guarantees should be
limited. One of the biggest problems
we had was that the risk wasn’t priced
correctly in the run-up to the crisis.
Pricing risk is very hard. If you want to
price risk correctly, you need to keep the
situation as simple as you can. I think
we’re going to want to limit these
guarantees to simple, transparent
mortgage products with clearly
defined parameters.
Sniderman: It’s commonplace for people
to say that we had too much emphasis
on owner-occupied housing leading up
to the crisis and now we should support
a more balanced housing system between
rental and owner-occupied. Is that
sensible or not?
Dynan: I think it’s very tough to know

what the right level of homeownership
is for our country. The experience of
the past few years suggested that there
are certainly limits to how far you want
to push it. At the same time, I think
there are clear benefits of home­
owner­ship. The evidence suggests that
putting down roots in a community
can benefit the whole neighborhood.
On top of that, a benefit of home­
owner­ship is that homes still represent
a form through which consumers can
build assets. I want to qualify that very
carefully. In the period leading up to
the financial crisis, the mistake was
that people thought they could build
assets effortlessly by just waiting for
their homes to appreciate. We learned
that that was a very bad assumption.
But I do think homeownership can
help a household build assets through
a more traditional financing model,
where you have to make a down payment and where you have to make
payments that pay off principal, so that
you’re building equity in your home.

In the period leading up to the
financial crisis, the mistake was that
people thought they could build
assets effortlessly by just waiting
for their homes to appreciate.
The equity is not locked off; you can
still get at it through a refinancing
transaction, but it takes some work to
get at it. I think that actually could be
very useful for households that have
trouble saving because they have trouble
planning or they have self-control
problems.
Over the longer run, I think that
means we need a system that not only
emphasizes homeownership but also
puts weight on creating good rental
housing for households for which
homeownership is not the right
choice.
Sniderman: Recently you’ve looked at
this deleveraging process that’s under
way. I wonder if you can talk about that
a little bit. How far along in the deleveraging process might households be?
Dynan: We have seen considerable

deleveraging for the nation as a whole.
If you look at household debt for the
entire economy, relative to income for
the entire economy, you can see that
that ratio has fallen back to its level
as of 2003. So it sounds pretty good,
but I think it’s very important to look
beneath that aggregate figure and see
what’s going on for different types
of households. As it turns out, the
deleveraging has been concentrated in
certain groups.

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One group would be the people who
defaulted on their mortgages. They
had loans that proved unsustainable
and they defaulted on those loans so
they no longer have that debt any more.
Those households have managed to do
quite a lot of deleveraging. There’s a
sense in which those households are
in a better financial position today as
a result. They don’t have the burdensome debt obligations that they were
finding so hard to sustain. That’s
probably a plus for their situation.
That’s not to say that they came by
it costlessly. In many cases, they lost
a home, they were displaced from
their community, and, going forward
they’re going to have limited access to
credit, which is going to make it hard
for them to get through periods when
their income is temporarily disrupted.
But, when all is said and done, these
households did deleverage very
dramatically.
Another portion of the decline in
household debt in the nation as a
whole has to do with reduced new
borrowing—people just not taking
out loans that they otherwise would’ve
taken out. There are probably two
things contributing to this. One is that
people don’t want to borrow much
when the economy is weak because
they don’t want to spend much when
the economy is weak. So some part of
it has been by choice. But another part
of it has been forced upon households.
Lenders are being super-cautious
right now. We can look and see they
are requiring higher credit scores and
better documentation of income than
they did prior to the financial crisis.
For many of those households, consumption is below what it otherwise
would be. But the good news is that as
credit conditions ease, we’ll probably
see households’ consumption rise,
which would be a good thing for the
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Sniderman: In the earlier days of the
crisis, there were some voices calling for
much more expansive and innovative
kinds of programs. Do you think those
things would’ve worked?
Dynan: Of course, it’s hard to say for

The last group of households I think
about are those highly leveraged
households that didn’t default. Those
are the people who ran up a lot of debt
prior to the financial crisis and so have
high debt obligations. On top of that,
many have seen their home prices fall
dramatically, which has put many of
them underwater with their mortgages.
I’ve researched this group of households and it looks to me that unless
you defaulted, you probably haven’t
made a lot of progress deleveraging.
You just haven’t found a way to really
pay off that debt very aggressively,
such that the distribution of leverage
for the highly leveraged households is
pretty similar to where it was a couple
of years ago. These households have
spending that is very constrained by
their situation. And that’s the group
of households that we need to worry
about and we need to think about
what we can do to help.
Sniderman: If you go back to the earliest
part of the financial crisis, knowing
what you know now, are there things
we might have done differently, or is it
still pretty elusive and difficult to think
about solving?
Dynan: The government put certain

programs in place to try to prevent
foreclosures and also to mitigate the
costs of foreclosures. Those programs
have helped many households. At the
same time, we’ve still seen millions
of foreclosures and many households
that are under severe strain trying to
make their mortgage payments. That’s
creating hardship for them and hardship for their communities. I think the
policy response didn’t meet expectations
in terms of how much it would help
get us through the housing crisis.

sure, but there are some things we
do know. Some programs, at least in
their early form, had flaws. It turned
out that mortgage servicers faced
constraints that people who designed
loan modification policies didn’t really
understand. That really limited the
degree to which they could modify
mortgages to make them more
sustainable for borrowers. I also
think that the earliest forms of the
program were limited in their scope.
Much of the thinking that went into
the government’s largest mortgage
modification effort occurred before
we saw labor markets deteriorate.
Those programs helped people in
certain situations, but they actually
were not targeted towards people who
needed a very large amount of help
over a short period, as a homeowner
who has lost her job might. So the
programs fell short in that way.
Sniderman: Looking ahead, we have
some demographic changes: Our popula­
tion is getting older. Most studies say
households are not very well prepared
for their older years. It seems to be
difficult to figure out, from a financialeducation point of view, how to get
households to do better financial
planning and increase their savings.
Do you have any insights about that?
Dynan: The issue of saving is really

important. We know that for the nation
as a whole, personal saving is up from
where it was prior to the crisis. But
again, it’s a question of how that is
spread out. Is that increase just a few
households doing a lot more saving, or
is it broadly spread across the population? We don’t have the kind of data
at the household level to answer that
question because the data sources you
would use are usually released with a
lag, so we can’t look at them yet.

But if you look at earlier studies and
you think about the anecdotal evidence
that’s out there, it’s clear that a lot of
households don’t have the savings
they need to live as comfortably in
retirement as they would like to, or
simply the savings they would need to
buffer disruptions to income, to allow
them to sustain spending if suddenly
their income drops. So I think there’s
good reason to be concerned about
parts of the population not saving
enough.
What you do about it from a policy
perspective is a hard question. Financial
education is tricky. There is not great
evidence about what you can do to
really move the needle to get people to
prepare adequately for retirement and
to make sure that they have enough
savings so that they’re financially secure.
But I’m actually a fan of programs like
the automatic IRA idea, which is that
you would require businesses of a
certain size that don’t have a retirement
plan to automatically create a retirement account for their employees,
unless the employee opts out. So the
employee doesn’t have to participate,
but the company is creating a default
and effectively providing some advice
to its employees about what would be
good from the point of view of their
financial security. I’m a fan of that.
For the lowest-income households,
I am very intrigued by programs
that provide some sort of match to
incentivize saving. If households do
a certain amount of saving, either the
government or some other source will
match their savings in order to incentivize them to do yet more saving. I
think those ideas are very interesting
and we should be piloting and studying
these sorts of programs.
Sniderman: Is it just that society has
changed or is there something different
about the saving habit?
Dynan: The issue of a cultural shift is a

really interesting one, and people love
to tell the story that our grandparents
lived through the Great Depression and
were enormously thrifty ever after.

We haven’t seen that kind of thriftiness
in today’s generation. We see people
much more focused on keeping up
with the Joneses. That said, we don’t
have great evidence as to whether
a cultural shift might be occurring.
Certainly a lot of people are now
asking whether, having lived through
what we lived through over the past
few years, we’ll see renewed interest in
thriftiness for the folks that faced a lot
of hardship.
Sniderman: Speaking of our nation’s
ability—or inability—to plan ahead,
what are your thoughts about the fiscal
crisis? What should we be thinking
about there?
Dynan: One thing that’s been a source

of frustration for monetary policy­
makers is that the steps they’ve taken
have been constructive for the economy,
but they’re by nature limited. They
can’t support the economic recovery
by themselves. They need fiscal policy
to play a role as well. The challenge
there has been designing steps that will
support the economy over the short
run but contain debt and deficits in
the longer run; if you take the first part
and not the second part, you create
a lot of uncertainty about what the
future holds, which will hold back the
economic recovery. I think we’ve seen
a lot of dysfunction in Washington
that’s stood in the way of making smart
fiscal choices. I hope that we’ll be able
to overcome that.
Sniderman: Part of your career was
working for an economic policymaking
organization [the Fed] and you had a
career partly as an academic, and now
you’re at what’s popularly called a think
tank. How does working as an economist
differ in these settings, and what kind
of satisfaction do you get and what
challenges do you find in these places?

agency or for the Federal Reserve
System. Besides the generally rewarding
aspect of public service, these institutions are places where you really can
have a direct influence on the policy
leaders who are making important
decisions, and that can be very re­
warding. That’s certainly what I found
when I was working for the Federal
Reserve Board just after I left graduate
school.

I think we’ve seen a lot of dysfunction
in Washington that’s stood in the way
of making smart fiscal choices. I hope
that we’ll be able to overcome that.
I would say that think tanks also play
an incredibly important role in the
policy sphere. You don’t have the
direct connection with policymakers,
or as much of a direct connection as
you would at a government agency
or the Fed. But the activities and the
research that is done at think tanks are
incredibly important.
One big difference for me now is that
I come into contact with a far broader
range of people as I do my research. I
spend time talking to business leaders,
to people who work at consumer
groups, and to people who work at
international agencies, and also I
spend time with the general public.
I think this kind of exposure has led
me to understand far more about how
the world really works than I had
previously. That’s been very good
for my research. It means that my
research offers a perspective to policy­
makers that they’re not necessarily
going to get from inside their
institutions. ■

Dynan: Universities are the traditional

career choice of economists, and I
think they are a great place to engage
with students and to pursue research
in an incredibly intellectually rigorous
environment. But I do think that anyone
who is very interested in policy should
consider working for a government

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Anna Schwartz:
A Remembrance

The economist Anna Schwartz died this past summer at the age of 96. Known best for her
collaborations with Nobel laureate Milton Friedman, Schwartz also co-authored many works
with other researchers, including several at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. One of her
final efforts, which she co-authored with the Cleveland Fed’s Owen Humpage and Rutgers
University’s Michael Bordo, will be published in 2013.

Michael Bordo
Visiting Scholar

I could go on forever about Anna Schwartz. She made
major contributions, not just in monetary history, but
in monetary economics in general. The top money and
macro­economics people hold her in the highest regard,
as do monetary and financial historians.
Her career began in the 1940s, when she started doing
research at the National Bureau of Economic Research
(NBER). Her first book, Growth and Fluctuations of the
British Economy 1790–1850, written with Arthur Gayer
and Walt Rostow, was published in 1953. Anna and her
co-authors applied the NBER methodology to business
cycles in the first half of the 19th century; she was instrumental in putting the data together. This was a major book
and a vital piece of economics history.

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Of course, the things we remember best today are
her works with Milton Friedman, with whom she
co-authored three major NBER books. The first was
the monumental Monetary History of the United States
1867–1960, which revolutionized our thinking on US
monetary history. The part of the book that is best
remembered is chapter seven, “The Great Contraction,
1929–1933.” The message of that chapter is that the Great
Contraction was not caused by a collapse of investment or
a long-lagged response to the imbalances of World War I.
It resulted from a collapse of the money supply, which
in turn was largely explained by the Federal Reserve’s
mistakes in the 1930–33 period. During that time, the
Fed failed to act as lender of last resort to offset a series of
banking panics.

The other two NBER books with Friedman, Monetary
Statistics of the United States (1970) and Monetary
Trends in the United States and United Kingdom (1982)
have less resonance today but became key building blocks
of modern monetary economics. In addition to the three
books, Anna wrote a number of articles with Friedman,
including “Money and Business Cycles” in 1963, which
was important in showing the link between monetary
shocks and economic recessions and recoveries.

Many people think that Anna should have received a Nobel
Prize, and maybe she would have if times had been different.
When Friedman got the prize in 1976, she wasn’t mentioned,
though she was a powerful force in monetary history and
in the major books they wrote together. Of course, Friedman
didn’t get the prize just for monetary history. But in terms
of her contributions to monetary economics, I think she
has many of the markers of a Nobel laureate.

DAVID SHANKBONE

Besides her work with Friedman, Anna wrote many other
seminal articles and books, including a 1973 paper on
the history of inflation; an NBER book, The International
Transmission of Inflation, with Michael Darby, James
Lothian, and Alan Stockman (1983); and, in 1986, a
thought-provoking paper on real versus pseudo-financial
crises. She served as director of the US Gold Commission
(to study the feasibility of returning to the gold standard)
in 1982 and was among the founding members of the
Shadow Open Market Committee (an independent group
that examines Fed policy). She was one of the prime
monetarists, after Friedman retired, right in the thick
of it with Karl Brunner and Allan Meltzer in critiquing
Fed policies.

What I remember most about Anna is how much she loved
her work. Her whole life was organized around going to
the office. She officially retired from NBER when she was
65, but she didn’t stop working until she was 93. She went
into NBER every day when she was in her 80s and 90s,
and she still put in a full eight-hour day.
She just didn’t stop. She
loved being involved in
economic research and
the policy game. It was her
passion—it drove her, even
in her later years. Without
that extreme intellectual
vitality, I don’t think she
would have lived as long.
In her later years, she went
to a lot of trouble to come into the office and work there
for hours, answering her correspondence and working
on papers and the book with Owen [Humpage]and me.
She was involved in the deliberations of the Shadow Open
Market Committee up until she couldn’t travel any more.
Yet she was a balanced person. She had a great family—
four kids, many grandchildren and great grandchildren,
and they used to come into New York to see her often. She
had season tickets to the Metropolitan Opera, which she
loved; she rarely missed a performance. She was a very
active person in other dimensions as well. She always had
a few novels going, and especially liked Anthony Trollope.
She was on top of what was going on in politics and
economic policy everywhere in the world. She read the
Wall Street Journal and the New York Times each day,
picking up every little detail. She never missed a beat. ■
—as told to Doug Campbell

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