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CONFIDENTIAL

Secretary’s Minutes
GOVERNORS

CONFERENCE

November 15 and 16, 1952.
Washington, D. C.


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Vim. McC. Martin, Governor,
Federal Reserve Bank o f St. Louis,
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Dear Governor Martin:

There i s enclosed for your confidential use a
copy o f the Secretary's minutes o f the Conference o f Gov-

ernors held i n Washington o n November 15 and 16, 1932.
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I had hoped t o be able t o incorporate the report
of the Legislative Committee i n the minutes, b u t as I am
informed that this will not b e ready soon, I have omitted
it from the minutes i n order t o avoid further delay i n distribution.

If you should detect any errors o r omissions, o r
have any changes t o suggest, please write m e at your convenience.

I want t o take this opportunity t o wish you and
your associates a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous
New Year.

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INDEX T O SECRETARY'S MINUTES
GOVERNORS CONFERENCE
NOVEMBER 1 5 and 16, 1932

Paragraph i n
Secretary's
Minutes
Amendments t o Federal Reserve A c t
Amendment t o Judicial C o d e

Amendment t o Regulation J
Banking legislation, Committee o n
Banking system, Proposals for general reorganization o f the
Banking unification
Branch banking
Coin, currency, a n d circulation
Coin and currency shipments under new Postal

Collections and clearings
Collection o f shipping charges o n non-cash
collections - — —
Committees:
Conference o f Governors a n d Federal Reserve

Agents (Joint)
Development o f Acceptance Practice
Insurance
Leased Wire

Legislative
Pension

Standing Committee o n Collections
Sub-committee o f General Committee o n
Bankers Acceptances

Credit transactions and policies
Discounts for individuals, partnerships, a n d
corporations


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Secretary's
Minutes
Election o f Chairman and Secretary for
year 1933 ;

Federal Home Loan Banks
Fee for reports o f examination
Finance company paper
Glass banking bill

Glass-Steagall Bill, Renewal of Section 3
Government securities a s collateral t o Federal r e s e r v e n o t e s

Inter-district t i m e schedules based o n
train schedules
Joint Committee o f Governors a n d Federal

Reserve Agents
Legislative problems
Loans b y Federal reserve banks under sec~tions 10-a and 10-b of Federal Reserve

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National bank notes

Operation and administration

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Reports:
Committee o n Development o f Acceptance
Practice
Insurance Committee

Joint Conference o f Counsel and Standing
Committee o n Collections
Leased Wire Committee

Pension Committee
Sub-committee o f General Committee o n

Bankers Acceptances
Standing Committee o n Collections
Reserves against possible losses

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Secretary's
Minutes

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Silver certificates

Spread—the-Vork program


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PROGRAM
CONFERENCE O F THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
with the
FEDERAL RESERVE AGENTS AND GOVERNORS
OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS
November 14, 1932.

Open market policy.
Government securities a s collateral t o Federal

reserve notes under Section 16, as amended b y the
Act o f February 27, 1932.
a. P o l i c y
b. Q u e s t i o n o f extension o f authority beyond
March 3 , 1933.

Activities of Banking and Industrial Committees.
Proposals for changes i n banking laws and for reorganization o f banking system.
Status o f report o f System Committee o n Branch, Group,
and Chain Banking.

Status of report of System Committee o n Reserves.
Policy and procedure i n granting permits under the provisions o f the Clayton Act relating t o interlocking
directorates.
Loans b y Federal reserve banks under Sections 10-a and
10-b o f the Federal Reserve Act, a s amended b y the Act
of February 27, 1932.
ae E x p e r i e n c e and policy.
b. Q u e s t i o n o f extension o f authority undcr

Section 10-b beyond March 3, 1933.
Discounts for individuals, partnerships, and corporations
under Section 13, as amended by the Act of July 21, 1932.
a. E x p e r i e n c e and policy.
b. Q u e s t i o n o f amendment s o as t o require endorse-

ment or other security in connection with such
paper rather than both.
Proposed study of acceptance practice.
Finance company paper.


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CONFIDENTIAL
PROGRAM
G O V E R N O R S

C O N F E R E N C E

November 14, 1932
Washington, D . C.

ELECTION O F CHAIRMAN AND SECRETARY FOR YEAR 1933
CREDIT TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES

A. Discount rates and open market operations.
1. R e p o r t o n open market operations.

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2. F u t u r e policy. %
3. Discount rates.

Chicago
New York

Gold.
oe R e v i e w o f recent movements a n d fu-

ture prospects. :
Relations with foreign banks.
1. R e p o r t o f operations and relations.
General banking situation.
de C o n d i t i o n o f banks and policies o f
examinors.
2. C r e d i t surveys and work o f Banking
and Industrial Committeés.

3. R e p o r t o n banking conditions i n
each Federal reserve district.
Cooperation b y Federal reserve banks i n
furthering the movement for the more
general use of Trade Acceptances.:

New York

New York

New York

New York

Chicago

Philadelphia

What has been the experience o f each Fed-

eral reserve bank in making loans «
1. U n d e r Glass-Steagall Act;
2. U n d e r Emergency Relief Act.
Regional Agricultural Credit Corporations.
Given authority t o rediscount with Federal reserve banks.
1. $Dis¢ussion a s t o procedure a n d :
policy.

Chicago

Chicago

LEGISLATIVE PROBLEMS
A. R e n e w a l o f Section 3 of Glass-Steagall
Bill.

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LEGISLATIVE PROBLEMS (Cont'd)
B. P r o p o s a l s for general reorganization o f the
banking system:
Ls B a n k i n g unification.
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2. B r a n c h banking.
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3. P r o p o s a l s pending before Congress,
such a s Glass Banking Bill.
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C. A m e n d m e n t t o Judicial Code.
1. T h a t the Federal Reserve Board recommend t o the Congress a t its next

session, a n amendment t o the Judicial Code t o restore t o the Federal
reserve banks the right t o sue, o r
to be sued, i n the Courts o f the

United States.

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D. A m e n d m e n t s t o Federal Reserve Act,
; D i s c u s s the advisability o f the Federal Reserve Board recommending t o
Congress a n amendment t o Section 1 3
of the Federal Reserve Act b y substituting the word "or" for the word

"and", s o as to read as follows:
NwHHtK+o discount for any individual, partnership, o r corporation,

notes, drafts, and bills of exchange
of the kinds and maturities made eli-

gible for discount for member banks
under other provisions of this Act,
when such notes, drafts, and bills of
exchange are e n d o r s e d R
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Recommend t o the Federal Reserve Board
that i t use its best effort t o
amend the Federal Reserve Act t o
permit the Federal reserve banks t o
accept member bank collateral notes
secured b y eligible paper with a ma~
turity not t o exceed ninety days. K a n s a s City

OPERATION AND ADMINISTRATION
As R e l a t i o n s w i t h t h e Federal H o m e L o a n Banks.
Le N a t u r e a n d extent o f facilitics t o b e

extended b y Federal reserve banks. C l e v e l a n d
B. Spread-the-Work program.

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C. Setting u p reserves against possible losses.

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COIN, CURRENCY, A N D CIRCULATION
A. N a t i o n a l bank notes.
he U n d e r the terms o f the Federal Reserve
Act, c a n Federal reserve banks restrict the amount o f National bank
notes which will b e accepted from
member banks for deposit.
I f not,
can Federal reserve banks forward
National bank notes o f large denominations t o Washington for immediate redemption.
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Suggested change i n denominations o f silver
certificates.
1. R e c o m m e n d e d that the Treasury Department give consideration t o allo-

cating $100,000,000, o r thereabouts,
of the present silver certificate

circulation to bills of $10 denomination with a corresponding reduc-

tion in the $1 denomination.

Cleveland

Coin and currency shipments under new Post-

al rates.

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VI. COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS
A. R e p o r t o f Standing Committee o n Collections.
B. Reconsideration o f Report o f Standing Commit~
tee o n Collections dated July 14, 1932. M i n n e a p o l i s
Amendment t o Regulation J.
1. R e c o m m e n d t o the Federal Reserve Board

an amendment to Regulation J, which
would provide i n effect that member
and clearing member banks, b y sending items t o a Federal reserve bank,
agree that such Federal reserve
bank, a s a n agent for collection,
shall guarantee all endorsements
prior t o its own o n such items, a n d
that such member and clearing member banks shall indemnify such Federal reserve bank against loss o n
account o f its guarantee o f such

endorsenents.

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COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS (Cont'd)
D. S h o u l d inter-district t i m e schedules o f re-

serve banks b e based o n train schedules
between various Federal reserve b a n k a n d

branch cities, leaving out of considera~
tion direct sendings o f member banks,

(See Standing Committee on Collections
letter o f November 25, 1931, t o Federal

Reserve Board.)

Shipments of checks by express. ( S e e
Federal Reserve Board's letter X-7272 o f

October 15, 1932.)

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Report o f Joint Conference o f Counsel and
Standing Committee o n Collections o n
October 1 0 and 11, 1932.
Collection o f shipping charges o n non-cash
collections.

1. T h e Standing Committee o n Collections,
in its report t o the Conference
dated November 2, 1925, recommended
that charges o n bonds, coupons, and
other securities u p to 25¢ o n individual items b e absorbed b y the FedI s it desireral reserve banks.
able t o increase this amount t o 50¢? C l e v e l a n d

REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
Insurance Committee.
Leased W i r e Committee.
Pension Committee.
Sub-committee o f General Committee o n Bank-

ers Acceptances.

Committee o n the Development o f Acceptance
Practice.


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G O V E R N O R S

C O N F E R E N C E

November 15 and 16, 1932.
Washington, D . C.

First Day's Session, Tuesday, November 15.
Morning
The meeting was called t o order a t 10:00 a. nm.
Present: G o v e r n o r Calkins, Chairman, a n d
Governors Young, Harrison,
Norris, Fancher, Seay,
Black, McDougal, Martin,
Geery, Hamilton, a n d
McKinney.
Mr. Strater, Secretary.

TOPIC I. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND SECRETARY FOR
THE YEAR 1933.

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VOTED t h a t Governor Calkins be reappointed Chairman
and Mr. Strater b e reappointed Secretary for the calendar year

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The Chairman announced that the Federal Reserve Board (2)

would like to have definite recommendations regarding topics
which were discussed b y the Board a t the Joint Conference o f
Governors and Federal Reserve Agents held o n November 14, and

appointed a committee consisting of Governors Harrison, Norris,
and McDougal t o confer with a committee o f the Conference o f

Federal Reserve Agents.

T h e joint committee is to formulate

and present a report t o cach conferénce o n the following topics
on the Federal Reserve Board's program:

II. Government securitics as collateral t o Federal reserve notes under Section 16 as

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amended b y the Act o f February 27, 1932,

Question of extcnsion of authority beyond
March 3, 1933.
Loans b y Federal reserve banks under sections 10-a and 10-b o f the Federal Reserve Act a s amonded b y the Act o f February 27, 1932.
Question o f extension o f authority under

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section 10-b beyond March 3, 1933.
Discounts for individuals, partnerships,
and corporations under section 1 3 as
amended b y the Act o f July 21, 1932.
Question o f amendment s o as t o require

endorsementr
o other security i n connec~tion with such paper rather than both.
There followed a discussion of the Federal Reserve Board's TOPIC IX. F I N A N C E COMPANY PAPER, a n d i t was
VOTED t h a t each Governor express his opinion o n

the subject, supported b y appropriate reasons, i n a letter
to the Federal Reserve Board.

At 11:00 a. m. the conference adjourned and re-

convened immediately as the Open Markct Policy Conference,
with Governor Harrison presiding. |

Adjourned a t 12:40 p.

m. and immediately reconvened a s the Governors! Conference.

Mr. Awalt, Acting Comptroller of the Currency,
together with the members o f the Federal Reserve Agents

Conference, then entcred the meeting. A
sion followcd.

general discus-

M r . Awalt asked that the conference agrec

upon a n increased fve for reports o f examination, a n d i t

was
VOTED: t h a t the Comptroller's office b e paid a

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fee of $10.00 for cach report of cxamination furnished t o
the Federal reserve banks until December 31, 1933. —

At 1:30 p. m. the conference adjourned t o reconvene a t 2:30 p. m.

First Day's Session, Tuesday, November 15.
Afternoon

The meeting was called t o order a t 2:35 p. m.
Same attendance a s at the morning session.

TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
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1. R e p o r t o n open market operations.

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2. F u t u r e policy.

3. Discount rates.
As the report o n open market operations had
been presented t o the Open Market Policy Conference and
the future policy then discussed, sub-topics 1 and 2 were
passed without further discussion.
Discount rates were considered and, after full
discussion, i t was the sense o f the conference that any
change i n rates a t this time would have little o r no effect o n existing credit conditions.

TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
B... O e a g .
1. R e v i c w o f recent movcements a n d future

prospects.
Governor Harrison reviewed briefly the situation a s i t appeared, a n d expressed his opinion a s to the

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trend o f future gold movements.
TOPIC ITI. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICTES

C. Relations with foreign banks.
i= R e p o r t o f operations

and relations.
Governor Harrison outlined the status of existing Foreign Central Bank credits and relations with those
banks and the Bank for International Settlements.
In considering the possibility that there might
be some losses i n connection with some o f the Foreign Cen-

tral Bank credits, the question was raised as to the advisability of setting u p a specific reserve for such possible
losses, o r making a n appropriate increase in a general reserve for undetermined losses to provide for them.

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was understood that the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
would consider the subject and communicate with each of
the other reserve banks expressing its views.
TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
D. General banking situation.

1. Condition of banks and
policies o f cxaminers.

Governor Harrison explained his reasons for
placing this topic o n the program and stated that a s this
topic had already been discussed a t the Joint Conference
with the Comptroller o f the Currency n o action was neces-

sary, and the topic was accordingly passed without action.
TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
D. General banking situation.
Ze C r e d i t surveys and work
of Banking and Industrial Committecs.

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these committees and their sub-committees, t h e topic was
passed a s having been otherwise adequately covered i n
the discussion a t the Joint Conference o n the previous
day, with the understanding that the Federal reserve banks
should continue t o pay reasonable expenses incurred b y the
committees i n carrying out the constructive work they are
doing.

TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
General banking situation.
3. R e p o r t o n banking conditions i n cach Federal reserve district.

There followed a discussion o f banking conditions generally.
TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS A N D POLICIES

E. Cooperation b y Federal reserve banks i n furthering
the movement for the more
general use o f Trade Acceptances.
In the discussion which followed i t was pointed
out that the reserve banks have consistently advocated the
general use o f Trade Acceptances for legitimate transactions, a n d that they were freely accepted for rediscount
when offered.

I t was the consensus o f opinion that prefer-

ential rates would not b e effective except i n those centers
where there was a n active acceptance market, a n d that i n
those centers a preferential buying rate might stimulate
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TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES

F. V h a t has been the experience
of each Federal reserve
banksin making loans 1. U n d e r Glass-Steagall

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2. U n d e r Emergency Relief Act.

This topic was passed a s having been adequately
covered i n the discussion a t the joint conference o n the
previous day.

TOPIC II. C R E D I T TRANSACTIONS AND POLICIES
G. R e g i o n a l Agricultural Credit
. Corporations. <
Given authority t o rediscount

with Federal reserve banks.
Rs D i s c u s s i o n a s t o procedure and policy.
At the request o f the Chairman, t h e Secretary

read a letter from Governor Geery of the Federal Reserve
Bank o f Minneapolis

t o the Federal Reserve Board, d a t e d

October 13, 1932 (Exhibit A) and the Board's reply of

October 25, 1932 (Exhibit B).
There followed a general discussion o f the advisability o f Regional Agricultural Credit Corporations
rediscounting with the Federal reserve banks, a n d if such
rediscounts w e r e made what t h e rate should be. G o v e r n o r

Hamilton asked that the conference g o o n record o n this

subject. Thereupon it was =
VOTED t h a t the Federal Reserve Board b e requested t a outline the procedure t o be followed b y the Fed-

eral reserve banks if and when they are asked to rediscount
for Regional Agricultural Credit Corporations.
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Governors Harrison a n d Calkins voted i n the

negative. G o v e r n o r Black was absent.

At 5:45 p. m. the confcrence adjourned t o rcconvenc a t 10:00 a . m . o n Wednesday, November 15, 1932.

Second Day's Session, Wednesday, November 16, 1932
Morning
The mecting was called t o order a t 10:20 a. m.
Same attcndance a s at the previous day's scssion.

Governor Harrison reported that the committee appointed b y the Chairman a t the previous day's session, after
meeting with a committee o f the Conference o f Federal Reserve Agents, was i n favor o f

(a) Extending the authority to pledge Government securities a s collateral t o Federal reserve notes granted under Section

16 of the Federal Reserve Act as amended
by the Act of February 27, 1932, and
(b) Extending the authority to make loans under
Section 10-b o f the Federal Reserve Act
as amended b y the Act o f February 27, 1932.

The committee recommended that the Fedcral Reserve
Board b e asked t o recommend t o the Congress, a t the appropri-

ate time, that these provisions be cxtended for a period of
at least one year beyond their cxpiration datc - March 3, 1933.


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The committee also recommended that n o change

be made at this time in the provisions of Section 13 of the
Federal Reserve Act as amended b y the Act o f July 21, 1932,
governing discounts for individuals, partnerships, a n d corporations.
VOTED t h a t the report o f the committee b e accepted and approved.

TOPIC IIT. LEGISLATIVE PROBLEMS
A. R e n e w a l o f Section 3

of the

Glass-Steagall Bill.
This topic was passed a s having been covered

by the committeefs report recorded in the preceding para~
graphs.

TOPIC III. L E G I S L A T I V E PROBLEMS

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. _Proposals _ for general rceor“ganization o f the banking

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1. B a n k i n g unification.
2. B r a n c h banking.
3. P r o p o s a l s pending before Congress, such
as Glass Banking Bill.

After a general discusssion, it was
VOTED t h a t the Chairman appoint a committee o f
five Governors t o consider the various problems incident t o
proposed legislation affecting a reorganization o f the bank-

ing system, and submit its recommendations relating to banking legislation t o the conference.

T h e committee i s to be

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Thereupon, the Chairman appointed the following

committee: Governor Young, Chairman, and Governors
Harrison, Norris, McDougal, a n d Black.

TOPIC III. L E G I S L A T I V E PROBLEMS
re A m e n d m e n t t o Judicial Code.
1. T h a t the Federal Reserve Board recommend t o the Congress a t its
next session, a n amendment t o the
Judicial Céde t o restore t o the
Federal reserve banks the right
to sue, o r to be sued, i n the
Courts o f the United States.
After discussion o f a memorandum written b y General Counsel for the Federal Reserve Board, i t was
VOTED t o recommend t o the Federal Reserve Board
that i t have prepared and submitted t o the Congress, a n
amendment t o the Judicial Code permitting the Federal reserve banks t o sue, o r to be sued, i n Federal Courts.

TOPIC III. L E G I S L A T I V E PROBLEMS
D. A m e n d m e n t s t o Federal Reserve Act.
: D i s c u s s the advisability o f the
Federal Reserve Board rcecommending t o Congr¢éss a n amendment t o
Section 1 3 of the Federal Reserve
Act b y substituting the word "or"
for the word "and", s o as t o read
as follows:
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t o discount
for any individual, partnership,
or corporation, notes, drafts,
and bills o f exchange o f the kinds
and maturities made eligible for
discount for member banks under
other provisions o f this Act when
such notes, drafts, a n d bills o f
exchange are e n d o r s e dR
O otherwise
secured t o the satisfaction o f the
Federal reserve bank."
This topic was passcd a s having been covered b y
the report o f the committee previously recorded.


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TOPIC III. L E G I S L A T I V E PROBLEMS
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D. A m e n d m e n t s t o Federal Reserve
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amend the Federal Reserve
Act t o permit the Federal reserve banks t o ac-

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cept member bank collateral notes secured b y eligible paper with a matur-

ity not to exceed ninety
days.

The Sceretary read a memorandum (Exhibit C) outlining the Federal Reserve Board's efforts t o obtain s u c h a n

amendnent, a n d after discussion i t was
VOTED t h a t this conference renew its recommendation
that the Federal Reserve Board continue its cfforts t o obtain
an amendment t o the Federal Reserve Act increasing from 1 5 t o

90 days the maximum maturity of advances t o member banks o n
their promissory notcs sceurcd b y cligible paper.
Governor McKinney asked to be recorded as not voting. G o v e r n o r s Calkins a n d Fancher were absent.

TOPIC IV. OPERATION AND ADMINISTRATION

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A. R e l a t i o n s w i t h Federal Home L o a n
Banks.
ie N a t u r e a n d cxtent o f facili-

ties t o be extended b y
Federal reserve banks.

As thc Home Loan Bank Act authorizes the Federal
Reserve banks to act in certain capacitics for the Federal
Home Loan Banks i n the general performance o f their powers

under the Home Loan Bank Act, i t was understood that each

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Federal reserve b a n k would decide this matter f o r itself.

TOPIC IV. OPERATION AND ADMINISTRATION
B. Spread—the-Work program.
There was a general discussion, a n d Governors
Harrison, Norris, a n d Hamilton outlined the plans contemplated o r adopted b y their several banks.

N o action was

taken,

TOPIC V. C O I N , C U R R E N C Y , D
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A CIRCULATION
A. N a t i o n a l bank notes.
1. U n d e r the terms o f the
Federal Reserve Act, c a n
Federal reserve banks restrict the amount o f National bank notes which
will b e accepted from member banks for deposit. I f
not, c a n Federal reserve

banks forward National
bank notes o f large denom-

inations t o Washington for
immediate redemption.
There was @ general discussion a s t o the policy o f
Federal reserve banks receiving o n deposit uncirculated National bank notes, especially those o f large denominations,
and methods o f disposing o f them if they are received.
The Chairman appointcd Governor Young a committee
of one t o discuss with the Acting Comptroller o f the Curreney, the possibility o f discouraging National banks from taking out unnecessary amounts i n large denominations.
Governor Young later reported that h c had confered with Acting Comptroller o f the Currency Awalt who agreed
to issue a circular t o National banks calling attention t o
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At 1:00 p. m. the conference adjourned t o reconvene a t 2:15 p. m.

Second Day's Session, Wednesday, November 16, 1932.
Afternoon

Meeting was called t o order a t 2:20 p. m.
Same attendance a s at previous sessions.

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TOPIC IV. O P E R A T I O N AND ADMINISTRATION

C. S e t t i n g p
u reserves against possible losses.
After a short discussion, Governor Harrison agreed
to send each o f the Governors a memorandum o n the subject.

YOPIC V. C O I N , CURRENCY, A N D CIRCULATION

B. Suggested change in denominations o f silver certificates.
Recommended that the Treasury
Department give consideration
to allocating $100,000,000,
or thereabouts, o f the present
silver certificate circulation

tobills of $10 denomination
with a corresponding reduction

in the $1 denomination.
There was a goneral discussion o f this subject during which Governor Harrison called attention t o the possible
effect o n the Silver situation i f the Treasury were t o issue
Silver certificates i n the ten dollar denomination.
tion w a s taken.

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TOPIC V. C O I N , CURRENCY, AND CIRCULATION
C. G o i n and currency shipments under new
Postal rates.
There followed a

short discussion a s t o whether

or not t h e Federal reserve banks a r e t o continue t o absorb

shipping charges both ways.

N o action was taken.

TOPIC VI. COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS
A. R e p o r t o f Standing Committee o n Collections.
VOTED t h a t the report b e received and approved.
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TOPIC VI. COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS
R, Reconsideration o f report o f Standing Committee o n Collections dated July 14,
1932.4
There was a general discussion with reference t o
policies o f the various Federal reserve banks i n handling

items drawn b y the makers o n themselves, after which i t was
VOTED t h a t when such items are received from
other Federal reserve banks o r branches a s non-cash items,
they will b e handled b y the collecting Federal reserve bank
or branch i n accordance with the instructions o f the sending Federal reserve bank o r branch.
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TOPIC VI. COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS
C. A m e n d m e n t t o Regulation J.

1. Recommend to the Federal Reserve Board
an amendment t o Regulation J, which
would provide i n effect that member
and clearing member banks, b y sending items t o a Federal reserve bank,
agree that such Federal rescrve bank,
as a n agent for collection, shall
guarantee all endorsements prior t o
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shall indemnify such Federal reserve bank against loss o n account o f
its guarantee o f such endorsements.
Governor Hamilton cxplained that the suggested
amendment t o Regulation J would climinate the question o f
the effect and application o f state statutes o f limitations o n action o f guarantecs o f prior endorsements, i n so
far a s the right o f recovery o f Federal reserve banks i s

concerned. U n d e r the present status of the law, a serious question exists a s t o whcther the statute o f limitation commences t o run a t the time a guarantec o f endorsement i s made.

A s a result a n action against endorsers,

or some o f them, m a y b e barred before i t can be established that a forgery exists.
made one o f indemity,

I f the contract, however, i s

i n so far as the Federal reserve

banks are concerned, t h e right o f action o n such a con-

tract would not accrue until a loss has been suffered and
paid, s o that the statute o f limitations under the laws o f
any state would not commence t o run against a Federal reserve bank o n such a contract until a n actual loss had occurred.
After discussion i t was
VOTED t o refer this question t o the Standing
Committee o n Collections jointly with counsel from threc
of the Federal reserve banks t o be named b y the Chairman

of the Standing Committee o n Collections, for study and
report t o the-Governors! Conference.


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It was suggested that counsel for the Federal
reserve bank o f Kansas City b e one o f the three selected,
and that the committee b e advised that a report b e delayed t o await the outcome o f pending litigation i n which
the Kansas City reserve bank is involved.

At this point Governor Hamilton retired from
the conference.

TOPIC VI. C O L L E C T I O N S AND CLEARINGS
D. s h o u l d inter—district time
schedules o f reserve banks
be based o n train schedules
between various Federal reserve bank and branch cities,
leaving ont o f consideration
direct sendings o f momber
banks. ( S e e Standing Commit—
tee o n Collections letter o f

November 25, 1931, t o Federal
Reserve Board.)
After discussion i t was
VOTED t h a t the views o f the Standing Committce
on Collections, a s expressed i n a letter from its Chairman
dated November 25, 1931, addressed t o the Federal Reserve

Board (Exhibit D), be adopted and approved,
TOPIC VI. C O L L E C T I O N S A N D CLEARINGS

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This topic, after discussion, w a s passed without
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F. R e p o r t of Joint Conference of
Counsel and Standing Commit—
tee o n Collections o n October 10 and ll, 1932.

The Chairman reported that as a result of that
meeting, a letter had been written t o the Secretary o f the
Treasury proposing a conference t o bring about a n understanding, a n d that negotiations will continue.

TOPIC VI. COLLECTIONS AND CLEARINGS
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G. CGollectionf
o shipping charges
on non-cash collections.

1. T h e Standing Committee on
Collections, n
i its report t o the conference
dated November 2, 1925,

recommended that charges
on bonds, coupons, a n d

other securities u p to
25¢ o n individual items

be absorbed b y the Feder-~
ai reserve banks. I s it
desirable t o increase
this amount t o 50¢?

After a short discussion it was
VOTED t o refer this question t o the Standing Com-

mittee o n Collections for study and report.

I t was the

sense of the conference that any Governor should feel free to
submit similar questions direct t o the committee for study

and report without the formality of first presenting them to
the Conference o f Governors.

TOPIC VII. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

' A , Insurance Committee.
VOTED t h a t the report be received and filcd with
the understanding that each Federal reserve bank will give
it consideration.


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TOPIC VII. REPORTS Of COMMITTEES
B. L e a s e d Wire Committee.
VOTED t h a t the report b e accepted, approved,

ahd filed.

TOPIC VII.

R E P O R T S O F COMMITTEES
Cc. P e n s i o n Committee.

After a general discussion o f the urgent need
of some sort o f benefit for officers and employees o f the
Federal Reserve System, i t was
VOTED t h a t i t is the sense o f the conference
that the report o f this committee dated February 11, 1932,

as well as the supplementary report dated November 7, 1932,
be approved b y this conference, a n d that the report b e resubmitted formally t o the Federal Reserve Board with the
request that the Federal Reserve Board advise the conference which form o f organization outlined i n the plan subnitted t o the Board i n the committee's memorandum o f February 11, 1932, i t would approve and support.

TOPIC VII. R E P O R T S O F COMMITTEES
D. Sub-committee o f General Committee o n Bankers Acccptances.
VOTED t o approve the report.

TOPIC VII. R E P O R T S OF COMMITTEES
LE. C o m m i t t e e o n the Development

of Acceptance Practice.
VOTED t h a t the report be approved and that Mr.
Kenzel, Chairman, b e requested t o furnish each Federal re-

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At 4:30 p . m . t h e conference adjourned.

H. F. STRATER
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Exhibit A

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF MINNEAPOLIS

October 13, 1932.

Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D . C.

Gentlemen:

Under the Act o f Congress providing for the organization o f the Regional Agricultural Credit Corporations, they are
given the right o f rediscount with the Federal reserve bank.
Would i t be expected that they would rediscount only with the Federal reserve bank located i n the district i n which they are situated?
What prompts this inquiry i s the question a s to whether,
in case the Regional Agricultural Credit Corporation o f Spokane
desired t o rediscount paper taken through its branch i n Helena,
they would b e expected t o offer i t to the Federal Reserve Bank o f
San Francisco o r t o this bank, and whether the Regional Agricultural Credit Corporation located i n Minneapolis would expect t o rediscount paper taken i n Southern Michigan with us o r with the Federal Reserve Bank o f Chicago.

Very truly yours,
(Signed) W. B. Geery,
Governor.


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Exhibit B
FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

October 25, 1932.

Mr. W. B. Geery, Governor,
Federal Reserve Bank o f Minneapolis,
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Dear Governor Geery:

Reference is made to your letter of October 13, 1932,
referring t o the authority o f the Regional Agricultural Credit
Corporations created b y the Reconstruction Finance Corporation

pursuant t o the provisions of Section 201(e) o f the Emergency Relief and Construction Act of 1932 t o rediscount paper with the

various Federal reserve banks, and inquiring whether a Regional
Agricultural Credit Corporation located i n one Federal reserve
district and having a branch i n another Federal reserve district
would be expected t o rediscount paper acquired through such branch
with the Federal reserve bank of the district i n which the head
office o f the corporation i s located, o r with the Federal reserve

bank of the district in which the paper has originated.
The Regional Agricultural Credit Corporations are authorized under the law to rediscount with the Reconstruction Finance
Corporation and the various Federal reserve banks and Federal intermediate Credit Banks a n y paper that t h e y acquire which i s eli-

gible for such purpose, a n d it is assumed that the corporations,
before requesting the Federal reserve banks t o rediscount their
paper, will consult with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation

and also will utilize their authority to rediscount with the Federal Intermediate Credit Banks.
I n the event thet i t should become desirable for the Federal reserve banks t o rediscount paper
for these corporations, there are a number o f questions t o be

considered with a view to obtaining some uniformity of policy and
procedure among the Federal reserve banks i n accepting such paper
for rediscount.
Replying t o your specific inquiry, i t is the view of the

Federal Reserve Board that, i f and when the Federal reserve banks
are requested t o rediscount paper for the Regional Agricultural
Credit Corporations, t h e offering i n each case should b e made t o

the Federal reserve bank of the district i n which the head office
of the offering corporation i s located, unless exceptional circum-

stances are presented which might render it desirable t o follow
some other course o f procedure.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Chester Morrill,
Secretary.


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Exhibit C

MEMORANDUM FROM ASSISTANT SECRETARY
FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

November 8, 1932.

An amendment t o the Federal Reserve A c t increasing

from 15 to 90 days the maximum maturity of advances by Federal reserve banks t o member banks o n their promissory notes se-

cured by eligible paper, was recommended to Congress b y the
Federal Reserve Board in its annual reports for the years 1927,
1928, a n d 1929, and i n letters addressed t o the Chairman o f the
Banking and Currency Committee o f the House o f Representatives

under date of January 16, 1926, April 24, 1928, and March 6,
1930, and i n a letter addressed t o the Chairman o f the Banking

and Currency Committee of the Senate under the latter date.
The recommendation was again made i n the memorandum
submitted b y the Board with its letter o f March 29, 1932, con-

taining its comments and suggestions with regard to Senate
Bill 4115, the so-called Glass Bill. T h e Board again called
attention to the recommendation i n its letter of June 3, 1932,

to the Chairman of the Senate Banking and Currency Committce
suggesting a further amendment t o the Glass Bill i n order t o

retain the amondment t o Section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act
making debentures of Federal Intermediate Credit Banks which

are eligible for purchase by Federal reserve banks eligible
also as security for advances made by them to their member banks.
In a letter prepared for the Sccretary o f the Treasury and dispatched over his signature t o the Chairman o f the
Banking and Currency Committee o f the Senate under date o f

August 29, 1932, with regard to Senate bills 546 and 547, attention was directed to the r e c o m m e n d a t i o ne
d
a
m in the Board's lctters of March 6, 1930, and March 29, 1932.


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Exhibit D

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF RICHMOND

November 25, 1931.

Federal Reserve Board,

Washington, D . C.
Gentlemen: A T T E N T I O N :

M r . E. M. McClelland, Asst. Secy.

Referring t o the question i n connection with interdistrict time schedules, which arose out o f a difference o f
opinion between the Federal Reserve Banks o f Boston and Richmond, a n d which was referred t o the Standing Committee o n Collections b y the Chairman o f the Governors! Conference a t the
request of. the Federal Reserve Board, t h e committee, a s request-

ed in your letter of October 28, 1931, has given consideration
to the question o f whether the inter-district time schedules o f

Federal reserve banks should be based o n train schedules betwecn
the various Federal reserve bank and branch citics, lcaving out

of consideration the direct sendings of member banks,
The committce i s unanimously o f the opinion that the
inter-district time schedule o f cach Federal reserve bank o r

branch should be based upon mail train schedules from it to the
other Federal reserve banks and branches, a n d should not take
into consideration the direct sendings t o the other Federal] reserve banks and branches b y its member banks.
I n other words,
the deferred credit time a s shown o n the inter-district t i m e
schedule o f Federal reserve bank o r branch "A" for checks o n
the c i t y o f Federal reserve b a n k o r branch "B" should represent

the actual time required t o receive credit for such checks after dispatch b y "A" t o "B" a n d should n o t b e affected a t all b y

the direct sendings o f member banks i n the district o f Federal
reserve bank "A" t o Federal reserve bank o r branch "B", T h e
deferred credit time for the direct scndings o f a member bank
in one Federal reserve district t o the other Federal reserve
banks and branches, t o which i t desires t o route direct, should

be based upon mail train schcdules from the town in which the
direct sending member bank i s located t o the other Federal re-

serve banks and branches, and should make such items available
for reserve purposes when collected without regard t o the regular inter-district time schedule o f its Federal reserve bank
or branch.

Respectfully,
STANDING COMMITTEE O N COLLECTIONS

(S). J . S. Walden, Jr.
Chairman


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