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https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Secretary's Minutes November 1 0 - Washington, D . INDEX T O SECRETARY'S MINUTES GOVERNORS CONFERENCE: NOVEMBER 1 0 - 14, 1923 |\Paragraph ! in Secretary's Minutes Absorption o f postage o n cash letters sent direct b y member banks - - Advisability of F, R. Bank defraying expense o f welfare and educational work Aeroplane Mail Service Amendment t o National Bank Act - What amendments a r e necessary t o enable national banks t o meet banking requirements Amendments t o Regulation D American Bankers Association = Committee o f Trust Company Division American Federation o f Labor Organization o f Bank Clerks Austrian Association o f Banks a n d Bankers relative t o counterfeit currency - Communication from Bankers Acceptances - Report o f sub-committee o f General Committee o n Bonds issued b y Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Banks Redemption o f debenture - - - « - =~ +. « Bonds, n o t e s a n d Treasury certificates o f indebtedness l o s t i n mails while e n route t o Washington - Canceled United States - - - + - - Branch directors ~Effects o f increasing number o f Branches of F. R, Banks « Operation under rules and regulations approved b y Board rather than b y by-laws Budget for control of expenditures - Adoption b y each F. R, Bank Canceled United States bonds, notes and Treasury certificates o f indebtedness lost in mails when en route t o Washington Chairman - + - - - - Election o f Charges against surplus w h e n current earnings insufficient Charge-offs f o r purpose o f reducing b o o k value o f bank buildings Dividends - - « = - «= + Furniture a n d Equipment Reserves t o cover annual depreciation o f bank premises https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis |16 Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Check Collections Collection o f checks drawn o n banks located i n Porto Rico and Hawaii Extension o f check collection facilities Par Collection Litigation REGULATION. Eo s e 6 u e e e ew ee Report o f Standing Committee o n Collections Circulars Member bank Expense = Discussion o f circulars issued b y b a n k s o f boston a n d N e w York relative t o comparison o f operations o f representative member banks Reconcilement o f provisions o f Telegraphic Transfer circulars o f banks with recommendations embodied i n Board's Letter X-4099 - - Circulation o f standard silver dollars - « Means o f increasing Collections Absorption o f postage o n cash letters sent direct b y member banks = Aeroplane M a i l Service « Authority o f a Federal Reserve Bank t o accept i n payment o f a collection item,a bank draft ziven i n exchange for draft o f drawee Collection o f checks d r a w o n banks located i n Porto Rico and Hawaii Extension of check collection facilities Increase o f servite tharge o n unpaid items Limitation o f kind o r dollar amt, o f non-cash items handled b y Federal Reserve bank « « < = = « = = » = , Non-cash Collections - Study o f possible charge for service Par Collection Litigation Regulation J e «= - « Report o f Standing Committee o n Collections - - - - + - - + - + - + + - - Whether o r not Bank may properly receive maturing items with instructions t o deposit proceeds i n commercial bank for account o f member bank Commercial paper = Registering « - - = + Committee o f Trust Company Division of American Lankers Association o n “Relations with Federal Reserve System! - - - -«-« « + «+ Committees Committee o n Standardization o f Supplics - Committee t o Study Cost of Securing Credit Information Insurance Committee Leased Wire Committee Open Market Investment Committee - « Pension Committee Standing Committee o n Collections - - + - + - + - - + - Sub-committee o f General Committee o n bankers Acceptances https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 52 54 53 58 3,26 55 n3, 38-49 nO, 12 Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Comparison o f operations o f representative member banks - Discussion of circulars issued b y Banks o f Loston and New York « Comptroller o f the Currency Correspondence between examiners a n d office o f the Comptroller Cost o f securing reports o f examination o f national banks « - < « = =< = Counsel representative o f all Lanks t o take part i n pending case o f Pousson v , Federal Reserve b a n k o f A t l a n t a + - < - - - + + - + -«--+s+ Counterfeit currency = Communication from Austrian Association o f banks and Zankers relative t o - - « « «+ Credit Information = Report o f Committee t o Study Cost o f Securing Credit Policy = Report o f Open Market Investment Committee - - - « Currency Communication from Austrian Association o f Lanks and Lankers relative t o counterfeit currency - © = = e© = ee w o Desirebility of Lanks giving consideration t o currency i n transit in computing reserve requirements a n d penalties f o r deficiencies an Pesemvas o f Henber banks < 5 . e w af w s e a e s ew Means o f increasing circulation o f standard silver dollars - « Production a n d distribution o f United States currency ~ = = « « Registered M a i l insurance o n Federal Reserve notes = «= «= « What steps should b e taken t o bring about gradual retirement o f national bank currency and final retirement o f legal tenders D a w e s P l a n e e e e e e S e S e S e 6 e e w e O e e e S S e e 6 S e e n e Debenture bonds issued b y Federal Land and Intermediate Credit banks R e d e m p t i o n o f p a e e e e e e e s Deficiencies i n reserves o f member banks «» Desirability o f Federal Reserve Danks giving consideration t o currency i n transit i n «’ computing reserve requirements a n d penalties « = 4 « © w«\- sw - « = Depreciation o f bank Premises - Policy o f Federal Reserve banks with reference t o making charzes against surplus when current earnings OSG aneUlLGTONE 4 Grovide for w s « = © mies a n a w l we ee Desirability o f uniform practice i n determining “eligibility" a s dis- tinguished from “desirability" ---.-..-.-... Discount Rates ~ Relation t o Open Market Investment Operations = https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis «+ « Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Dividends ~ Policy o f F, R, Banke i n making charges against surplus when current earnings are insufficient t o provide f o r - ~ - - - - - + Earnings ~ Advisability o f F. R, Banks investing amount equal t o capital a n d surplus i n government bonds f o r ~ «+ = ~ = —- e e w= = Economy a n d Efficiency Adoption b y each F, R. Bank o f budget f o r control o f expenditures Operating expenses o f F, R, Banks ~ Formulation and adoption o f plans for program for economy and efficiency ~ ~ - - - e w + } Report o f Committee o n Standardization o f Supplies - +--+... +--+ Report o f Committee t o Study Cost o f Securing Credit InformationReport.-of Insurance Committers « n i n s u e o n 6 e e e 6 wie Educational and Welfare work -~ Can expenditures b e legally made out o f F, R, Bank's funds, Advisability of defraying expense ~ + ~ = + "Eligibility" a s distinguished f r o m “desirability” - Desirability o f uniform practice i n determining - «© = — = w e e e w w w w www ne Bxamination of National Banke Coet of securing reports- ~--+---+«- + « Nevisionh O i WepheGs « 6 6 e a e ei a e e e e e e e e ee e e Examination o f State Banks ~ Procedure i n various districts a s t o action taken w h e n State member banks have n o t maintained standard in value o f assets which would entitle them t o admission t o System. Execution o f orders for Treasury Department ~ Procedure followed i n Expenditures f o r welfare and educational work ~ Can expenditure b e legally made and advisability o f defraying out o f Bank's funds- - ~ Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Banks ~ Redemption o f debenture bonds issued b y — w e m e we we me we ne we te we ee e e e w e ee e e Federal Reserve Notes ~ Registered mail insurance o n ~ ~ = + = = = = Federal Reserve Board - H, R, 9768 + Congressman Thomas, Oklahoma » This bill would provide f o r additional appointive member and increase salary of all Board members to $25,000 per annum ~ - ~ = =e e e = = Fiscal Agency Operations Canceled United States bonds, notes and Treasury certificates o f Indebtedness lost i n mails while e n route t o Washington - ~- - + ~ Procedure n o w being followed i n execution o f orders f o r Treasury~ + Redemption o f debenture bonds issued b y Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Banks « — —- = + + ww = https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Fogeign- acemmite « Haparé.of a acs. e e a e Se 12 Foreign Bills ~ Has time come for F, R. Banke to consider investing ES O V e e e e a ee e a a e o e e e Free voluntary services ~ In view of small earnings can F, R, Banks continue, o r should cost b e charged t o member banks - ~ - + = = = Furniture a n d Equipment = Policy o f F. R. Banks w i t h reference t o making charges against surplus w h e n current earnings a r e insuffic i e n t t o p r o v i d e Gold PEOVINGYB G B a a a ek oes ne e e a s e e a e ae s k e n e a e = w e e a o a w e e n e e e e e o Government bonds, Investment i n for earning purposes - ~ - ~ = - = Hawaii a n d Porto R i c o - e = Collection o f checks d r a w o n banks located i n Holdings of real estate b y Federal Reserve Banks - Holidays - Their observance b y Federal Reserve Banke H,R, 9768 ~ Congressman Thomas, Oklahoma ~ ~ - = = Insurance Registered Mail insurance o n Federal Reserve notes Report o f Insurance Committee ~- = - Inter-District Collection System Booklet - = =~ = = Investing f u n d s i n foreign bills consider C e a Has time come f o r Investment b y F, R. Banks i n government bonds f o r earning purposes Leased Wire Committee ~ Report of o o o nmeweweoemeweme ee Leased wires between parent b a n k a n d branch b a n k = « = = s o ee wm Leased Wires ~ Use of to advise payment o f Bill of Lading drafts Legal tenders and national bank currency - What steps should be taken to bring about retirement o f - o m oe oe we ce me te we we te me we me me me mee me Mail Service ~ https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Aeroplane - o o m e me we mp ce oo we my we pe te ge we me mt we oe oe we me Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Member b a n k expense « Discussion o f circulars issued b y F. R. Banks of Boston and New York relative t o comparison o f operations o f = = o f = representative mamber banks = = a 6 we oe oe oe me we oe we we Member bank refuses t o comply with Regulations 9 o F M e = ee = w w we we m m Membership o f trust companies ~ Committee o f Trust Company Division of American Bankers Association a wo oo we oe oe oe we me oe 0s oe me oe me me ee me National Bank Act ~ Amendments necessary t o meet banking requirements and develop national banking system along sound Linas + o a wm ov om 0 National Bank Currency and Legal tenders ~ What eteps should be taken to bring about retirement ~ — o a e e oe ee we we we ne we me me oe we we me oe oom National Banks Cost o f securing reports o f examination - + Revision of reports o f examination + « o a a o a ow a om om w o w e mm m e Non-cash collections Limitation o f kind o r dollar amount o f non-cash items handled Bio B a n k o : csuiercas ao 00 os Gbget ent ObSan whicenrinbie aprne, OF Ss Selon we on 90 Study of possible charge for service - - w a 2 ow w w we mm Uniform liability paragraph i n non-cash collection circular ~ Observance o f holidays b y Federal Reserve Banks + = «+ + = - = Open Market Investment Committee ~ Report o f - + o o m ne me mw m Open Market Operations Discount Rates ~ Relation t o Open Market investment operations ~ Raport of Open Market Investment Committee - = s e ee + e e Operating Expenses of F, R. Banks + Formulation and adoption of plans for constructive program for economy and efficiency - -~- ~~" = < = | Operation of Branches + Advisability of recommending operation under regulations approved b y Board a s provided b y law + ~~ ~ ~ ~ wm = Organization o f Bank Clerks - American Federation o f Labor Par Collection Litigation - eco o e Par List « Withdrawals from ~ = - =~ = o e oe w e me me m e r e m e me me t e Payment of collection item - Authority of a F, R, Bank to accept in payment o f a collection i t e m a bank draft g i v e n i n exchange f o r draft o f Arawee https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis v o m e we ce me oe ae te we me we we me we me my we oe ne me te ne we we oe Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Pewalties f o r deficiencies i n reserves o f member banks - Desirability of F, R, Banke giving consideration to currency in transit i n computing reserve requirements w o e o e we we oe te me me oe te we we me me 20, 22 Report o f e w o n a e oe we me oe we te ae me oe we oe te me me oe oe oe 55 Porto Rico and Hawaii -~ Collection of checks drawn on banks in ~ - ~ « 17 Pension Committee = Postage on cash letters sent direct by member banks ~ Absorption of~ ~ 16 Pousson v. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta ~ Advisability of employing counsel representing all banks to take part i n pending case ~ - ~ = Procedure n e w being followed i n execution o f orders f o r Treasury ~ - ~ Production and distribution o f United States currency « ~ ~ —~=- © Protested cash iteme - Study by all F. R. Banks of + ~~ e e 4 Real Eetate holdings o f Federal Reserve Bankse+ ~ + - =~ e e e e Revoncilement o f provision o f Telegraphic Transfer circulars - ~ ~ Redemption of debenture bonds issued b y Federal Land a n Intermediate | a Credit B a n k s i | i , |i i e l - o P Refusal b y member bank t o comply with regulations Registered mail insurance o n Federal Reserve notes Registering commercial paper - « = Regulation D + = - S e e Rebeletish 0 6 e e ee w e t a =~ w e mm o e s & ee R e 19, 39, 50 e r Oe e e - Committee of Trust Company "Relations with Federal Reserve System" «= " ~ ~ " “ w m w T Association Division o f American Bankers againet Replacement c o s t s ~Policy of F, R. Banks i n making charges fs chargewof surplus when current earnings insufficient t o provide t o approximate for purpose o f reducing book value o f bank buildings Report o f Foreign Accounts = https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis w m t e ce e m m m m e me las | Paragraph: in Secretary's N i n u t 2 a s <2 7 Reports o f Committees Committee o n Standardization o f Supplies « ~ ~ = = =~ = H e e e Committee t o Study Cost o f Securing Credit Information - + = 52 ~|5 4 53 58 Ineurance C o m m i t t e e vo. se so bs beioe me os be te be Be we Oe he me we te oe we oe Leased W i r e C o m m i t t e g e or oo on or os oo os on we os or oe fe mv ws tr oe ne we Open Market Investment Committea -- — w oe a oe oe te me we we ne te we oe e a m e ng Pree he ae Pon dion C o w i h t66 aot ee e haes e e s Standing Committee o n Collectionse: < 1 o x a e ee e m e e m e Sub-committee o f General Committee o n Bankers Acceptances~ = - 3, 55 at$8: 10, Reports o f Examination 62, 83 Cost o f SeCUPEMe o o o we oe me me oe oe we te oe me e e Revision of reportser o w oe we oe ow me me me we oeme m e meme et te e e | | Reserves Regulation D - Proposal to amend wo ow ee oe ee me oe te me em me Reserve requirements a n d penalties f o r deficiencies of considering currency i n transit i n computing ~ ~ Reserves t o cover annual depreciation o f bank premises F, R, Banke with reference t o making charges against - | Desirability) - = ~ = 6 =| ~ Policy of! surplus - + Time Deposits - Mantar in which banks in Twelfth Federal Reserve | District compute reserves O N = + ow w e me ee me mm m m Retirement o f national bank currency and legal tenders -~ + - = ~ ~ ~ Service c h a r g e o n u n p a i d B S ast: e e R o a d Services for Members In view of emall earnings, can F, R, Banks continue free volun~ tary services o r should actual cost b e charged t o members- eShould F. R. Banks effect telegraphic transfers over commercial wires f o r member banks which charge customers amount i n excess (OF a c t u a l C o s t v m o e ne we we oe oe oe oe we oe an we ge te te me we ae or ae mee Silver Dollars ~- Means o f inereasing circulation o f standard ~ - + Standardization of Supplies ~ Report o f Committea o n = + = o = + = Standing Committee o n Collections, Report O L me oe oe me me we ne me we oe oe State Banks » Procedure i n various districts a s t o action taken b y examining department w h e n State mambere h a v e n o t maintained a s hieh standard a z would entitle them t o admission t o System » ~ = Stenopraphic Record o f Joint Conference~ + ~ ~ ~ ~ https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Paragraph i n Secretary's Minutes Telegraphic Transfer circulars - Reconcilement o f provisions w i t h recommendations embodied i n Board's letter X-4099 60, 65 Telegraphic Transfers over commercial wires for member banks which charge customers a n amount i n excess o f actual c o s t Time Deposits a n d manner i n which reserves thereon a r e computed by banks i n Twelfth Federal Reserve District Treasury Department orders ~ Procedure followed i n execution o f - - - Trust Company Division of American Bankers Association + Membership of trust companies Voluntary Services Can F. R , Banks continue f r e e services i n view o f small earnings or should actual cost o f making non-cash collections b e charged to member banks Welfare and Educational work among F. R. Bank employees - Can expenditures b e legally made f r o m bank's funds, a n d advisability of defraying expenses Withdrawals f r o m Par List https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 33 PROGRAM GOV B R N O R 5) C O N F E R E N C E NOVEMBER, 0 1 1 9 2.4 Washington, D , C. CREDIT TRANSACTIONS A N D POLICIES A. Report o f Open Market Investment Committee Governor Strong, Chairman, B, Discount Rates - Relation t o Open Market Investment Operations. ( D i s c u s s i o n ) N e w York Dawes P l a n - General discussion o f the possibility o f this plan being a first step toward resumption o f gold payments by some European nations; w h a t bearing it would have upon the policy o f the Reserve System; a n d what our attitude should be. ( D i s c u s s i o n ) N e w York i o n ) J o i n t Pro./] The advisability o f a Federal Reserve Bank investing a n amount equal t o capital and surplus, i n government bonds for earning purposes, ( D i s c u s s Desirability o f Uniform Practice i n determining "eligibility" a s distinguished from "desirability." ( D i s c u s s i o n ) Boston Time deposits a n d the manner i n which reserves thereon are computed b y banks i n the Twelfth Federal Reserve district. ( D i s c u s s i o n ) J o i n t Pro.AZ Proposal t o amend Section 3, Paragraph B, of the Board's Regulation D, s o as to permit member banks, i n determining the amount of deposits against which reserves must b e carried, t o deduct ( 1 ) f r o m gross demand deposits, a l l Government deposits a s now defined i n Regulation D , and items with a Federal Reserve Bank i n process o f collec- tion, and (2) from the amount of balances due t o other banks, t h e amount o f balances due from other banks (except Federal Reserve Banks a n d foreign banks), including in the amount due from banks, out-of-town items placed i n the mail and charged t o the account o f correspondent banks, checks drawn o n banks located i n the same c i t y a n d exchanges for clearing houses, ( D i s c u s s i o n ) J o i n t Pro.j6 H, H a s the time come for Federal Reserve Banks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis to consider investing some o f their funds in foreign bills? (Resolution adopted by Federal Advisory Council, copy attached) (Discussion) J o i n t Pro,j/7 ow2 a I, Report o f sub-committee o f General Committee on Bankers Acceptances, Mr, Kenzel, Chairman, N J. Report o f Foreign Accounts, w York e II, C O L L E C T I O N S AND CLEARINGS A, Report of Standing Committee o n Collections Mr, Strater, Chairman, B, E x t e n s i o n o f check collection facilities. Desiratility and necessity f o r further ; development o f the check collection system, ( D i e c u s s i o n ) ( D i s c u s s i o n ) N e w York C,.Par Collection Litigation Poe S g n Fran, a s k s o f postage o n cash letters sent direct b y member banks. Recommended: That none o f the Federal Reserve Banks should absorb the cost o f postage o n any cash letters sent direct b y members to other Federals, (Action) N e w York : BE. Collection o f checks dravm o n banks : located i n Porto Rico and Hawaii, ( D i s c u s s i o n ) Phile. F, Aeroplane Mail Service, Recommended: That the Standing Committee o n Collections b e requested t o study the aeroplane m a i l service w i t h t h e view of determining whether i t i s feasible to adjust the time schedules so as to give member banks the benefit of earlier presentation o f items which 'are dispatched b y aeroplane, 4 e t i o n ) G,Member bank's warranty that it has authority https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis of customer t o accept those provisions o f Regulation J regarding reeponsibility for items, ( A c t i o n Recommended: That the Standing Comittee o n C o l lections b e instructed t o prepare a uniform circular containing a form o f contract between banks and their depositors, requesting member and clear~ ing-member banks t o amend their con- tracts (contained o n deposit slips and signature cards) i n accordance with the form proposed i n the circular; a n d Recommended further: That the Federal Reserve Banks amend their check collection circular o n March 1, 1925, to provide that the act o f submitting checks t o Federal Reserve B a n k s f o r col- lection will b e construed a s a warranty that the depositor has lodged with the depositing bank the required agreements, ) S a n Frans III. C O I N , CURRENCY A N D CTR C U L T ALON A. T h e desirability o f 211 Federal Neserve . Banks giving full consideration t o currency i n transit i n computing the reserve requirements and penalties for deficiencies i n reserves o f member banks. (Soard's letters X-3953 and 4075.) Means o f increasing the circulation o f standard silver dollars. (Seé letter of Oct. 2, 1924, Mr, James to each Governor) Production a n d distribution o f U. S . ( Discussion) > a N e Joint Pro. H o { Discussion. with Ass't Secy. o f Troas ) Joint Pro. Ha { Discussion with Ass't currency - Secy. o f Treas.) Joint Fro. # 1 3 ( Discussion | Gold Payments with Ass't Secy. of Treas ) . New York Registered mail insurance o n Federal Reserve Notes, Consideration b y Governors o f whether it would b e advisable t o ask the Treasury to let Federal Reserve Banks place their o w insurance. { Diseusson) ’ OPERATION A. Economy and Efficiency 1. Operating expenses o f the Federal Reserve Banks - formulation a n d adoption o f definite plans for 4 constructive program for greater economy 2nd efficiency. (Board's letter S t . 4170.) { Discussion) Joint Pro. #8 ( Discussion) Joint Pro. H o ( Discussion) New York Adoption b y each Federal Reserve "ank of abudget for control o f expendi- tures. (Roard's letter St. 4235.) Report of Committee o n Standardization of Sunplies Mr. Worthington, Chairman Report o f Insurance Committee Mr. Kenzel, Chairman Report o f Committee t o Study the Cost of Securing Credit Information Mr. Childs, Chairman B. Pensions 1. Report o f Pension Committee, Mr. Kenzel, Chairman 2~- American Federation o f Labor Organization o f Bank Clerks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4= C. Telegraphic Transfers 1. R e p o r t o f Leased Wire Committee Governor McDougal, Chairman 2. S h o u l d Federal Reserve Banks effect telegraphic transfers over commercial wires for member banks which charge their customers a n d impose for this S a n Francisco service a n amount i n excess o f the ( D i s c u s s i o n ) J actual cost of telegrams? o i n t Pro. #3 3. Reconcilement o f provisions o f Telegraphic Transfer circulars o f F. R. Banks with recommendations embodied inBoard's letter X-4099 ( A c t i o n ) S t . Louis San Francisco Recommended: That the Leased Wire Committee b e instructed t o review the telegraphic transfer circulars o f the Federal Reserve Banks, a n d to require reconcilement o f the provisions therein with the committee's recommendation enbodied i n the Federal Reserve Board's letter X-4099. Cost o f securing reports o f examination o f national banks. ( A c t i o n ) N e w York Recommended: That t h e principle ultimately t o apply shall be that the Reserve Banks pay n o more t h a n t h e expense o f pre- paration o f the reports: a n d Recommended further: That the conference adopt a resolution specifying the time for which the rate of $10 a report shall be continued, a n d fixing the rates which should b e paid permanently for reports thereafter. Branch Directors Effects o f increasing the number o f directors o f branches i n conformity w i t h the Board's letter X-3956; and advisability o f recommending t o Board that branches b e operated under rules a n d regulations approved b y the Board a s provided by law, rather than by by-laws. (Discussion) S a n Francisco Observance o f holidays b y F, R. Banks (See Board's letters X+4122, 28 and 54) (Discussion) Joint Pro. #4 Can expenditures b e legally made o f Federal Reserve Bank funds for the purpose o f https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis welfare a n d educational w o r k among Federal Reserve Bank employees. T h e advisability o f reserve banks defraying, wholly o r partially, t h e expense o f such welfare and educational work. ( D i s c u s s i o n ) J o i n t Pro. #5 H, What should be the policy of Federal Reserve Banks w i t h reference t o making charges against surplus f o r the items enumerated below when current earninga a r e insufficient to provide therefor: ( 1, D i v i d e n d s , Discussion) J o i n t F r o #10 2. Reserves t o cover annual depreciation ; o f bank premises, 3. C h a r g e - o f f s f o r purpose o f reducing book vaiue o f bank tmildings t o approximate replacement costs. 4, Furniture and equipment, I, Holdings o f real estate b y Federal Reserve Banks. ; ( D i e c u s s i o n ) K a n s a s City Has there ever been a ruling made b y the Federal Reserve Board authorizing the reserve banks t o hold real estate? T h i s especially applies where real estate has been taken i n due course o f business, The National Bank Act provides for such Casese FISCAL AGENCY AND DEPOSITORY OPERATIONS A, Procedure n o w being followed i n the execution of orders f o r the Treasury Department. ( D i g c u s s i o n ) B, Redemption of debenture bonds issued b y Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Banke. (Action) N e w York S t . Louis Recommended: That i n the interest o f economy and uniformity, the same policy b e pursued i n connection with the re-~ demption o f the debenture bonds issued b y the Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Banke a s is now followed i n connection with the pay~ ment o f Federal F a r m Loan coupons, C. Canceled United States bonds, notes and Treasury certificates o f indebtedness lost in the mails while e n route t o Washington. ( Experience o f Hederal Reserve Bank o f San Francisco, which was requested b y Treasurer Discussion) S a n Francisco to make restitution f o r lost bonds because serial numbers o f bonds stolen while i n transit could not b e correctly given, VI, MEMBERSHIP A N D RELATIONS WITH MEMBER BANKS A, Voluntary Services - In view of small carne ings, c a n Federal Reserve Banke continue the free voluntary services, o r should the ‘ K actual cost o f some o r all o f these { banks?’ member the t o charged services b e https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis a n s a s City Discussion) C h i c a g o B, W h a t can b e done when a member bank refuses t o comply with the Regulations? (Discussion) K a n s a s City C, Examination o f State banks Procedure i n various districts a s t o action t a k e n b y examining departments regarding State member banks which have not maintained, after membership, a s high a standard i n the value o f assets a s would entitle t h e m t o pass a n examination f o r admission to system, ( D i s c u s s i o n ) S a n Francisco D,Committee o f Trust Company Division A. B. A. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis on “Relations with the Federal Reserve System," for the purpose o f crystallizing the present membership o f trust companies and inducing wherever possible eligible nonmember trust companies t o join the system. ( D i s c u s s i o n ) N e w York. RESOLUTIONS ADOPTED B Y THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 25, 1924. WHEREAS, a further easing o f money rates a t this time might render i t extremely difficult t o w a r d o f f a period o f acute i n - flation with its subsequent evil consequences with which the country i c only t o o w e l l familiar, a n d WHEREAS, f o r c e d investments o f Federal reserve banks i n our market and continued substantial importations o f gold into the United States are factors that might tend t o enhance the P e n s of money already existing, RESOLVED, that this Council recommend t o the Federal Reserve Board t o consider the question whether the time has come f o r Federal reserve banks t o exercise t h e i r power t o invest s o m e c f their funds i n foreign bilis with approved American ban‘ing in-dorsenents a n d payable b y a n d repayable t o Federal reserve banks in dollars. The Council believes t h a t observing these safeguards a n d by properly scattering i t s purchases t h e Federal Reserve S y s t e m can safely invest substantial anounts abroad, without a n y risk of loss o n account o f e x c h a n g er o otherwise, a n d i n doing s o ward o f f t o that extent t h e inflow o f gold, incidentally assist- ing the foreign countries involved i n their efforts t o stabilize their exchanges and to bring them back to definite gold relations. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Po O S Gah A a CONFERENCE OF GOVERNORS AND FEDERAL RESERVE AGENTS WITH FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD November 1 9 2 4 Washington, D . CG. 1. T h e advisability o f a Federal reserve b a n k investing a n amount equal to capital and surplus i n Government bonds for earning purposes. 2. T h e desirability o f all Federal reserve banks giving full consideration t o currency i n transit i n computing the reserve requirements and penalties f o r deficiencies i n reserves o f member banks. ( B o a r d ' s letters X-3953 and X - 4 0 7 5 ) . 3. Should Federal reserve banks effect telegraphic transfers over commercial wires f o r member banks which charge t h e i r customers f o r this service a n amount i n excess o f the actual cost o f telegrams. 4. Observance o f holidays b y Federal reserve banks. (Board's let~ters X-4122, X-4128 and X-4154.) 5. C a n expenditures b e legally made o f Federal reserve bank funds for the purpose o f welfare and educational work awong Federal reserve bank employees. T h e advisability o f reserve banks defraying, wholly orpartially, the expense of such welfare and educational work. 6. Proposal to amend Section 3, Paregraph B, of the Board's Regulation D, s o as to permit member banks, i n determining the amount o f deposits against which reserves must b e carried, t o deduct (1) from gross demand deposits, all Government deposits a s now dofined i n Regulation D, and items with a Federal reserve bank in process of collection, and (2) from the amount o f balances due t o other banke, the amount o f balances due from other banks (except Federal reserve banks and foreign banks), including in the amount due from banks, out o f t o w items placed i n the mail and charged t o the account o f correspondent banks, checks d r a m o n banks located i n the same city and exchanges f o r clearing houses. 7. H a s the time come for Federal reserve b a n k s t o consider investing some o f their funds i n foreign bille. ( R e s o l u t i o n adopted b y the Federal Advisory Council, September 25, 1924, copy enclosed) 8. Operating expenses o f the Federal reserve banke - formulation and adoption o f definite plans for a constructive program for greater economy and efficiency. (Board's letter St. 4170.) 9. A d o p t i o n b y each Federal reserve b a n k o f a budget f o r control of expenditures. (Board's letter St. 4235.) 10. ‘that should b e the policy o f the Federal reserve banks with reference t o making charges against surplus f o r the items enumerated https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis wate cpa below, w h e n current earnings a r e insufficient t o provide therefor: (a} Dividends, (b) R e s e r v e t o cover annual depreciation o f b a n k premises, (c) Charge-offs f o r the purpose o f reducing b o o k value o f bank buildings t o aporoximate replacement cost, (d) Furniture and equipment, 11, Annual Reports of Federal Reserve Agents to Feder .. iese-ve Board, D i s c u s s i o n o f the advisability o f discontinuing t h e s e reporvs and presenting t h e banks’ operations a n d financial developments d u r i n g the year i n the form o f a brief resume i n the January o r February number o f the banks’ monthly reviews, 12, T i m e deposits a n d t h e manner i n which reserves thereon a r e computed b y banks i n the Twelfth Federal Reserve District, 13, P r o d u c t i o n a n d distribution o f U. S . Currency. Discussion with Mr. Dewey, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. 14, M e a n s o f increasing the circulation o f standard silver dollars, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Discussion w i t h Mr, Dewey, Assistant Secretary o f the Treasury. Date P i e e e P A L P R GOVERNORS' C O N FERENCE November, 1 9 2 4 Washington. This program i s composed o f topics submitted b y the Federal Reserve Board o r Federal Reserve Banks too late t o be included i n the regular program previously circulated. 1. W h a t amendments t o the National Bank Act are necessary i n order that national banks may be better able to meet banking requirements a n d that the deve lopment o f the national banking system may more closely follow the trend o f banking development i n the country a t large s o far as experience shows that https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis this development is along sound and strong lines? What steps should b e taken t o bring about the gradual retirement o f the national b a n k currency and the final retirement of the legal tenders? - F , R. Board Reports o f Examinations o f National Banks Recommended That the Office o f the Comptroller o f the Currency revise reports o f examinations o f National banks s o that these reports will contain a separate schedule showing notes rediscounted with the Federal Reserve Banks and pledged as collateral, classifying same slow, doubtful, undesirable and less, with such other information a s would b e o f value t o the Federal Reserve Banks. Atlanta Correspondence between Examiners a n d Comptroller's Office. Recommended That the examiners furnish the Federal Reserve Banke with copies o f letters t o the Comptroller's Office b y directors o f banks under criticism a n d the replies t o such letters b y the Comptroller's Office. A t l a n t a Whether o r not a Federal Reserve Bank may properly receive maturing collection items w i t h instructions i n some to deposit the proceeds of the collection commercial bank for the account o f a member bank. ie Communication f r o m t h e Austrian Association o f Banks a n d Bankers relative t o coumterfeit c u r - rency. N e w York Member Rank Expense Discussion o f circulars issued b y the Federal Reserve Banks o f Boston a n d N e w York relative to t h e comparison o f t h e operations o f representative N e member banks. w York Whether o r not i t might b é advisable t o suggest https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis to the Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta the question o f employing a counsel representative of all Federal Reserve Banks t o take part i n the pending case o f Pousson v. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. F.R-Board H. R . 9768 - Congressman Thomas, Oklahoma. This bill would remove t h e Secretary o f the Treasury a n d Comptroller o f the Currency f r o m membership o n the Federal R e s e r v e Board a s ex-officio members, provide for a n additional appointive member t o represent labor, a n d increase t h e salary o f all Board members t o *25,000 per annum, etc. F . R . B o a r d G O V E R N O R S November 1 0 - 14, 1924 Washington, D . CG. First Day's Session, Monday, November 1 0 Joint Conference w i t h Federal Reserve B o a r d and Federal Reserve Agents Mornin The meeting w a s called t o order a t 10:30 o'clock a . m Present: Members o f the Federal Reserve Board, Messrs. Curtiss, Jay, Austin, Wills, McCord, Heath, Martin, Mitchell, McClure, Talley and Perrin, Federal Reserve Agents. Governors Harding, Strong, Norris, Fancher, Seay, Wellborn, McDougal, Biggs, Young, Bailey, McKinney and Calkins. Governor Crissinger addressed the joint conference and suggested that the individual conferencesof Federal Reserve Agents and Governors should meet before any further diseussion i n joint conference with the Federal Reserve Board. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis At 11:00 o'clock a. m. the joint conference adjourned. Separate Governors Session The meeting was called t o order a t 11:00 o‘clock a. m. Present: Governors Harding, Strong, Norris, Fancher, Seay, Wellborn, McDougal, Biggs, Young, Bailey, McKinney and Calkins. Mr. Harrison, Secretary. Upon motion of Governor Fancher, it was VOTED t h a t Governor Strong act a s Chairman o f the Conference. (Gee page 2 stenographic record). Tasit--.< h- R e p o r t o f Open Market Investment Committee and ( S e e also paragraph 26) Topic 1. B. D i s c o u n t Rates - Relation t o Open Market investment Operations. (See also paragraphs 2 9 and 85) These two topics were postponed pending a formal meeting o f the Open Market Investment Committee. (See pages 2 and 3 stenographic record) Topic I . ©. D a w e s P l a n ~ - General discussion. This topic w a s withdrawn f r o m the program because s o closely r e - lated to the discussion that would necessarily arise i n disposing o f Topics I. A. & B. Topic I . D . T h e advisability o f a Federal Reserve B a n k Joint Pro.#1 i n v e s t i n g n a amount equal t o capital a n d surplus i n government bonds f o r earning purposes. (See also paragraph 30) Discussion o f this topic was postponed until action o n Topic I . A. (See page 3 stenographic record) Topic I. BE. Desirability o f Uniform Practice i n deter- mining “eligibility” as distinguished from "Gepgirabi lity.” After a general discussion b y the conference, upon motion o f Governor McDougal, i t was VOTED t h a t i n any case where any question arises a s to the eligibility o f paper originating i n another district, a Federal reserve bank should take care t o consult with the Federal reserve bank o f the district i n which t h e paper originated, a n d that i n n o event should paper be declared to b e “ineligible” merely o n the basis o f the statement o f the borrowing company i f a s a matter o f fact i t i s known that t h e proceeds were used for a n eligible purpose. I t was the consensus o f opinion that in cases where the proceeds o f paper are k n o w t o b e used for a n eligible purpose, but where the statement o f the borrowing company for any reason https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (4) is unsatisfactory, t h a paper should b e declared t o be “undesirable" rather than “ineligible.” I t wae felt generally that Federal reserve banks should b e a s liberal a s possible i n determining t h e question o f “eligibility” a e distinguished from "desirability." (See pages 3 - 22 stenographic record) Topic I. F, T i m e deposits and the manner i n which re- Joint Pro. #12 s e r v e s thereon are computed b y banks i n the Twelfth Federal Reserve district, Thie topic was discussed b y Governor Calkins, w h o pointed out that there are two questions involved i n this matter ~ the question o f the legality of the present regulation of the Federal Reserve Board, and the question o f the expediency of that regulation s o fav as i t defines savings deposits, A f t e r considerable discussion o f the several points raised, upon motion o f Governor Calkins, i t was VOTED t o recommend t o t h e Faderal Reserve B o a r d that i t s regue lations relating t o this matter b e amended b y the addition o f some proviso to the effect that wherever the State law requires the segregation o f savings funds and permits the investment o f those funds i n only specified securities, then the pass book need not b e presented a t the time o f the withdrawal, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Governor Seay voted i n the negative, (Ses pages 22 ~ 44; 426 and 427 etenopraphic record) Topic I. G. P r o p o s a l t o amend Section 3, Paragraph B , Joint Pro, #6 o f the Board's Regulation D, so as to permit member banks, i n determining the amount of deposits against w h i c h reserves must b e carried, t o deduct (1) from gross demand deposits, a l l Government deposits a s n o w defined i n Regulation D , a n d items w i t h a Federal Reserve B a n k i n process o f collec- tion, a n d (2) from the amount o f balances due t o other banks, t h e amount o f balances due from other banks (except Federal Recerve Banks and foreign banks), including in the amount d u e f r o m banks, out-of-town items placed i n the mail a n d charged t o the account o f correspondent banks, checks drawn o n banks located i n the same c i t y a n d exchanges for clearing houses, ‘Whe secretary read to the conference a report o f the Federal Reserve Agents Committee o n Reserves (printed o n pages 4 4 a n d 4 5 o f stenographic record). T h i s w a s followed b y a general discussion o f the inadvisability o f trying t o amend the reserve provision o f the law i n a piece-meal fashion o r without a thorough g o i n g countrywide s t u d y o f the question. W p o n motion o f Governor McDougal, i t was therefore VOTED t h a t t h e Conference o f Governors should endorse t h e proe posals i n the report o f the Federal Reserve Agents Committee, a n d express its approval o f having t h e Federal Reserve Agents Committee consult w i t h bankers o f the country, a n d employ s u c h experts o r assistants a s they m a y see fit fully t o carry into effect the recommendations o f their report, the expense o f this employment t o be pro rated among all o f the Federal reserve banks. (see pages 4 4 - 52 stenographic record) Yopic TI. H. Joint Pro,#7. H a s t h e time come f o r Federal Reserve Banks t o consider investing some of their funds in foreion bills? {Resolution adopted by ‘Federal Advisory Council). (See also paragraphs 26 and 28) The practice o f different Federal reserve banks relative t o tho investment o f their fimds i n foreign bills and the general principles involved i n such purchases were discussed, b u t action was postponed pending @ report b y the Open Market Investment Committee, {see pages 52 ~ 69 stenographic record) At 1:25 o'clock p. m. the conference adjourned t o reconvene a t 2:30 otcloek p. m. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis First Day's Session, Monday, . Nevember 1o, 1924 Separate Governors Session Afternoon ‘the meetine was called t o order a t 2:30 o'clock p , m, aeeie.t. d s R e p o r t o f sub-committee o f General Committee on Bankers Acceptances. The chairman referred to a report that he had received from (9) een Mr. Kenzel, chairman o f the sub-eomnittee o f the General Committee o n Bonkers Acceptances, t o the effect that that committee has had no formal meeting since t h e time o f its laect report t o t h e Governors Conference i n May, but that they expect t > have euch a meeting and t o file definite recommendations with the Governors Conference after the next meetine o f the american Acceptance Council, when the matters within the jurisdiction o f the acceptance committee a r e t c b e discussed i nsome d e t a i l . Upon motion o f Governcr Harding, VOTED t o appoint Mr, Paddock a s a member o f the sub-committee of the General Committee o n Bankers Acceptances t o serve i n place o f Mr. Bullen, w h o d i e d a short time after his resignation a s Deputy Governor ~ 76 estenographic record) jueves gegenWee P e R e p o r t o f Foreign Accounts. Governor Strong refarred briefly to the account of the Federal Reserve B a n k o f N e w Y o r k w i t h t h e B a n k o f England, suggesting that i f there wae no objection, that account should remain a s a non-~participating account, at least until s u c h time a s the exchange situation should become more settled. Governor Strong also referred t o the account o f the New York bank with the Reichsbank, and stated that he would at some later date discuss the matter o f this account w i t h t h e Open Market Investment Committee f o r suggestions a c t o what micht b e i t s recommendations w i t h reference by the other Federal reserve banke. t o participation N o action w a s asked f o r a t this time. report o f the Federal Reserve B a n k o f N e w York o f the other accounts forsign =) submitted https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis i n which other Federal reserve b a n k s participated w a s t o t h e comference without action, ee pages 7 0 - 74 stenographic record) bee Topic I T . A . R e p o r t o f Standing Committee o n Collections (See also paragraphs 3 8 end 49) Discussion o f this report was postponed pending the arrival o f Mr. Strater, chairman o f the committee. Topic II. B . E x t e n s i o n o f check collection facilities. Desirability a n d necessity f o r further development o f the check collection system. There was a general discussion o f the check collection system particularly w i t h reference t o t h e question o f the collection o f checks drawn o n member banks i n a weak con@ition, There w a s also further consideration o f the possibility a t some later date o f having appointed a committee t o study t h e whole question o f the collection o f checks i n order t o ascertain whether, i n view of the ex« perience w e n o w have had, i t would b e possible t o improve u p o n t h e present system, Upon the suggestion o f Governor Calkins, this topic was passed without action, having been proposed merely for the purpose o f discussion. (See pages 77 - 98 stenographic record) Topic II. Cc, P a r Collection Litigation. (See also paragraph 81) ( 1 5 Governor Wellborn outlined the status o f the pending case o f the Pascagoula National B a n k v , t h e Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta, s t a t i n g that the temporary injunction asked for b y the complainant h a d been denied by the Federal Judge, a n d that the case was to b e tried o n its merits i n December. T h e r e was also a discussion o f the so-called Teta case. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis No action was asked for. (See pages 9 8 - 102 stenographic record) Topic It. D. Absorption o f postage o n cash letters sent direct b y member banks. After discussion, o n motion o f Governor Strong, i t was VOTED t o refer this topic t o the Standing Committee o n ) ae Collections for investigation and recommendation. j {See pazes 102 - 108 stenographic record) Topic TI. BE. Collection o f checks dram o n banks lecated ( 1 7 ) in Porto Rico and Hawaii, On request o f Governor Norris, this tepic was withdraw from the program, {See page 108 stenographic record) jTopic II. F. Aeroplane Mail Service, : Upon motion o f Governor Calkins, ( 1 8 ) i t was Pg EVOTED t o refer this topic to the standing Committees on Collections , for investigation and recommendation, {See pages 109 and 110 stenographic record) Topic II. G. M e m b e r bank's warranty that i t has authority ( 1 9 ) of customer t o accept those provisions o f Regulation J regarding responsibility for items, (See also paragraph 50.) This topic was passed pending action o n the report o f the Standing Committees o n Colleetions. (See pages 110 and 111 stenographic record) At 4:00 ofclock p. m, the conference adjourned t o reconvene again at9:00 o'clock a. m. on Tuesday, November 11, 1924. second Day's Session, Tuesday, November ll, 1924 Separate Governors Session Worning The meeting was called t e order a t 9:00 o'clock a. m, Topic III. A. The desirability of all Federal Reserve ( 2 0 ) Joint Pro.#%. ‘Banks civing full consideration to currency in transit i n computing the reserve require- ments and penalties for deficiencies i n reserves o f member banks. Upon motion of Governor Seay, i t was VOTED that the practice now prevailing i n seven Federal reserve banks i n considering currency i n transit i n determining the penalties for https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis a ae deficiencies i n reserves i s i n effect equivalent t o counting currency i n transit a s part o f the reserves o f member banks, a n d i s an unsound and undesirable practice, Governors Stronz, S e y , McDougal, McKinney, Y o u n g a n d Calkins voted i n the affirmative. Governors Norris, Bailey, Biggs, Wellborn and Fancher voted i n the n e g a t i v e , Governor Harding asked t o b e recorded a s not voting, Upon motion o f Governor Seay, i t was VOTED t o refer this topic t o the expert committee t o be appointed b y the Federal Reserve Agents Committee o n Reserves, together with a l l other questions o n reserves. Governor "fellborn voted i n the negative. (See pages 111 and 112; 113 - 125 stenozraphic record) TOOL tt). B e M e a n s o f increasing t h e circulation o f Joint Pro.#14, s t a n d a r d silver dollars. Mr. Dewey, Assistant Seerctary o f the Treasury, outlined t o the conference t h e program o f the Treasury relative t o the circulation o f stand- ard silver dollars, calling attention t o the great expense o f maintaining a $1 bill circulation a n d possible savings that might b e effected i n substituting 2 @ reasonable amount o f standard silver dollars i n place o f a n equivalent amowmt of the $ 1 paper currency. S e v e r a l o f the Governors questioned whether t h e sav- ing i n printing bill which might b e effected b y circulating standard silver dollars might n o t b e offset b y the increase i n the transportation charges o n standard silver dollars. After Mr. Dewey's withdrawal from the conference, a n d after further consideration o f the whole question with a view to cooperating with the Treasury i n its effort t o effect possible savings, i t was https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis VOTED u p o n motion o f Governor Wellborn, t o b e the sense o f the conference that each Governor should recommend t o his board o f directors that the Federal reserve banks will undertake f o r a limited time and for a ' Limited amount, purely for the purpose o f experiment, t o pay the charges on outgoing shipments o f standard silver dollars, but not o n incoming shipments, subject t o the understanding, however, t h a t this practice w o u l d b e discontinued i f and as soon a s it might b e s h o w that there i s no real de- mand for these silver dollars, and that consequently it is more expensive on account o f the cost o f transportation and other factors than using $ 1 bilis. Governors Seay, Biggs and McKinney voted i n the negative. (See pages 125 - 168; 1 8 3 - 190 stenographic record) Upon motion o f Governor Strong, i t was thereupon VOTED t h a t i n making this recommendation t o the joint conference, the chairman should indicate that as a practical matter this action might result i n the necessity o f changing existing regulations a n d even then i t might be impossible t o avoid the payment of transportation charges o n incoming shipments o f standard silver dollars i n cases where the shipping member banks include s u c h dollars w i t h other c o i n being shipped t o the reserve bank. (See pages 190 - 192 stenographic record) 2OpLe 111. <C. P r o d u c t i o n a n d distribution o f U.S. Joint Pro. #13. C u r r e n c y . Mr. D e w e y discussed f o r the benefit o f the conference t h e action and recommendations o f the Treasury Department with respect t o the establishment a n d maintenance o f a n adequate reserve s u p p l y o f United States currency and gold certificates. H e outlined a t some length the reasons for the present shortage a n d the. program b y which it i s proposed n o t o n l y t o provide sufficient bills o f the smaller denominations f o r current needs, but also sufficient reserve supplies https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (23) i tie both o f the small bills and of gold certificates i n denominations o f $100 and less. (See pages 165 - 180 stenographic record) Topic III. D. G o l d Payments. Mr. Dewey stated that the Treasury Department is still in favor of having the Federal reserve banks continue payments o f gold ever the counter i n the usual course of business even though gold imports had decreased considerably i n recent months, i t being his belief that this decrease m i g h t . b e but temporary. {See pages 180 ~ 182 stenographic record) At 12:45 o'clock p. m. the conference adjourned with the wderstanding that the Open Market Investment Committee would have a meeting and report back t o the conference t o convene a t 2:15 o'clock p. m. Second Day's Session, Tuesday, Nevember 11, 1924 Separate Gevernors Session &fiternoon The meeting was called t e order a t 2:30 o'clock p. m. The conference went into executive session w i t h stanographer absent to consider the report of Open Market Investment Committee. Topig I. A. Report of Gpen Market Investment Committee ( S e e also paragraph 3) Governer Strong reported to the conference the follawing recommendations of the Open Market Investment Committee: 1. T h a t the committee continue t e make such temporary sales and putchases from the special account a s are necessary te stabilize money conditions a t tax periods. 2. T h a t any purchases of government securities o r acceptances b e distributed a s recently o n the basis o f estimate of deficiencies o f earnings of the twelve reserve banks. 3. T h a t the committee b e authorized b y the Governors Conference t o commence a s soon a s practicable t o exchange certi- ficates maturing after December 31, 1925, for shorter term certificates. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis =ibe 4, T h a t action o n t h e recommendation o f the Advisory Council relative t o the purchase o f foreign bills b e deferred until such time a s we may b e i n a position t o know more about the development o f conditions relating t o foreign exchanges; and that t h e System make n o purchases o f such bills until that time, 5. T h a t the committee b e given authority (a) to replace the $65,000,000 o f December maturities to such extent a s may b e advisable i n consideration o f market conditions a t that time; a n d (b) t o offset t h e export o r earmarking o f gold f o r foreign account t o such extent a s may b e advisable i n consider- ation of market conditions, but not to exceed $100,000,000. 6, T h a t t h e committee b e authorized t o sell investments in the special account i f deemed desirable f r o m time t o time i n order t o reduce that account t o the amount o f $500,000,000 4 s rapidly a s money conditions make i t practicable. 7, T h a t a n article b e prepared for the Federal Reserve Bulletins and the Reviews of the Federal reserve banks giving the facts and results o f open market operations. Upon consideration o f the several recommendat ions o f the Open o the Governors a t the conference Market Investment Committee, s e v e r a l f duéstioned the advisability o f publishing i n the Federal Reserve Reviews the facts:and results of open market operations, matters that might be misunderstood o r misconstrued i n certain sections o f the country where the Federal Reserve Bank Reviews are circulated. Accordingly, after discussion, t h e committee agreed t o withdraw this particular recommenda = tion. Thereupon, upon motion o f Governor Calkins, i t was VOTED as t o approve a l l t h e other recommendations o f the committee outlined above, Stenographic Record of Joint Conference. ( 2 7 Governor S t r o n g reported that t h e Open Market Investment Committee had considered, a s requested by the conference, the question o f providing stenographic records o f joint conferences with the Federal Reserve Board, Upon motion o f Governor Young, i t was VOTED, a s recommended b y the Open Market Investment Committee, that t h e F e d e r a l R e s e r v e B o a r d b e a s k e d t o f u r n i s h e a c h G o v e r n o r w i t h a https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ) Ps a e copy o f the stenographic record o f the joint conference between t h e Governors a n d t h e Federal Reserve Board h e l d last May, a n d that, i f possible an underetanding b e reached with the Federal Reserve Board that each Governor always b e supplied with a copy of whatever stenographic record might b e made o f such conferences, T h e Open Market Investment Committee later reported t h a t this recommendation h a d been approved b y the Federal Reserve B o a r d . Topie 1 . H. H a s t h e time c o m e f o r Federal Reserve Banks Joint Pro.#7. t o consider investing s o m e o f their funds in foreign bills? (See also paragraphs 9 and 26) Upon motion o f Governor Young, i t was VOTED t o approve the recommendation o f the Open Market Investment Committee that t h e Federal Reserve System d o not make a n y purchases of foreign bills until such time a s w e may be i n a peeition t o know more about the development o f conditions relating t o foreign exchanges. (The stenographer returned to meeting.) Opie t s sD D i s c o u n t R a t e s ~ Relation t o Open Market : I n v e s t m e n t Operations. (See also paragraphs 3 and 85) After discussion o f question o f discount rates with particular reference t o their relation t o open market investment operations, Governor Strong reported that the Open Market Investment Committee unanimously agreed that conditions a t the present t i m e a r e such that rates o n open market: purchases o f bills are now too l o w and should b e gradually raiged as indicated f r o m time t o S a s https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis eooie=t. T h b y contemporary conditions. . e advisability o f a Federal Reserve B a n k Joint Pro.#1. investing a n amount equal to capital and surplus i n government b o n d s f o r searing purposes. (See also paragraph 5 ) After a lengthy discussion o f the principles a n d practical a4 questions involved, Governor Norris made a << motion THAT i t is the sense o f the conference that there i s no objection in principle to the investment b y Federal’reserve banks i n long time Government obligations o f so much o f their capital and surplus a s is not represented b y buildings o r other fixed investments. The motion was lost - 6 ayes and 6 noes. Governore Wellborn, McDougal, Harding, Young, Norris and Bailey voted i n the affirmative. Sea 2 Governors Strong, e r a t e , McKinney, Biggs, Fancher and Calkins voted i n the negative, (See pages 193 -.212 stenographic record) Topic IV, A, 1, - Operating expenses of the Federal Reserve Joint Pro.#8. B a n k s - formulation and adoption of definite plans f o r a constructive program f o r and T o p i c g r e a t e r economy and efficiency, IV, A. 2. Adoption b y each Federal Reserve Bank of Joint Pro #9. a _ budget f o r control o f expenditures. After a thorough discussion b y all the Govermore present o f the general question o f a budget a n d other e g in the operations e f the Federal reserve banks VOTED ( a ) t h a t a o f effecting economies i t was committee t e b e composed o f Mr. Smead o f the Federal Reserve Board and Mr. Rounds o f the Federal Reserve Bank o f New York a n d one other person f r o m some o f the other Federal reserve banks should be appointed for the purpose of furnishing any interested Federal reserve bank with information and sugcestione concerning the adoption o f a budget o r with any help and advice that might b e needed i n effecting the adoption of a budget, and (b) t h a t the Economy and Efficiency Committee o f the Federal Reserve Board b e requested t o advise each Federal o c c a s bank whether that committee, i n view of all the information a t its disposal, has a n y specific suggestions t o make t o the directors o r officers o f the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis V A =i4a several Federal reserve banks a s to how further economies, othor thar the adoption o f a budget, might b e effected b y the respective Federai reserve banks. 7 A (See pages 212 - 234 stenographic record) Topic VI. A. Voluntary Services - In view of small earnings, " can Federal Reserve Banks continue t h e f r e e voluntary services, o r should t h e actual c o s t of some o r a l l o f these services b e charged t o the member banks? (See also paragraph 49) After discussion a t which i t was pointed out that the Federal neserve Board had approved all the reports o f the Committee o n Voluntary Services t o the effect that voluntary o r free services should not now be abandoned o r curtailed, with the exception o f the report relating t o noncash collections which the Board states that i t still has under advisement, i t was VOTED t o b e the sense o f the conference t h a t n o change should b e made in, a n d n o charge should b e made for, a n y o f these voluntary services at the present time. Governors Bailey and Wellborn voted i n the negative. (See pages 234 - 237; 3 1 4 - 335; 4 4 4 and 445 stenographic record) ( Topi¢ IV. C. 2. Should Federel Reserve Banks effect 3 3 ) Joint. Pro. #3. t e l e g r a p h i c transfers over commercial wires for member banks which charge their customers a n d impose f o r this service a n armount i n excess o f the actual c o s t o f telegrams? after consideration, u p o n motion o f Governor Harding, i t was VOTED t h a t this i s a matter which should b e left t o the discretion o f each Federal reserve bank. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (See pages 237 - 239 stenographic record) Topic IV. F . O b s e r v a n c e o f holidays b y Federal Reserve Banks. Joint Pro. #4. After a discussion o f both the legal and practical questions ( 3 4 ) involved i n this matter, i t was VOTED, u p o n motion of Governor Harding, that the Federal Reserve Board b e requested t o give further consideration t o i t s ruling o n holidays with t h e hope o f the conference t h a t i t will s e e f i t t o revise t h a t ruling. (See pages 239 - 250 stenographic record) At a later session o f the conference, i t was VOTED t h a t the chairman should advise the Federal Reserve Board during the course of the joint session with the Federal Reserve Board, that it was the sense o f the conference that a satisfactory disposal o f this topic would be a ruling that each Federal reserve bank should advise the Federal Reserve Board a t least ten days i n advance o f a prospactive holiday affecting either the parent bank or any of its branches, whether the parent bank o r such branches, under advice o f the bank's counsel, would close o r remain open o n such holiday, i t being understood that i f the bank should close i t would not participate either way i n the gold settlement fund, but that i f it should remain open i t would participate both ways. Topic IV. G. C a n expenditures b e legally made of Federal ( 3 5 ) Joint Pro. #5. Reserve Bank funds for the purpose of welfare and educational work among Federal Reserve Bank employees. _ T h e advisability o f reserve banks defraying, wholly o r partially, the expense o f such welfare and educational work. During the course o f discussion o f this topic, i t was indicated that nine Federal reserve banks have procured the advice o f their counsel a s to their right to make expenditures for the purpose of welfare. a n d educational work among their employees. A l l of these nine counsel have ruled unquali- fiedly that there was no doubt of the legal right of a Federal reserve bank te make expenditures f o r these purposes. T h e other three Federal reserve banks had not asked advice of counsel because they assumed that there https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis oY a e question a s to their right t o make these expenditures. VOTED I t was, there- t o b e t h e sense o f the conference t h a t t h e Federal Reserve o should b e advised o f this position o f the counsel o f the Federal rebanks. in considering the last half o f Topic IV. G., i.e. the question ( 3 6 ) of the advisability o f Federal Reserve banks defraying the expense o f welfare and educational work, upon motion o f Governor McDougal, i t was VOTED t o adopt the following resolution: WHEREAS welfare work among employees o f corporations generally i e recognized a e necessary t o a high degree o f efficiency, a n d WHEREAS the same principles applicable t o those other corporations a r e applicable t o the Federal Reserve Banks, be it RESOLVED, that payments b y Federal Reserve Banks f o r the ompurpose o f welfare a n d educational w o r k among their especially desirable, highly a s ployees shauld b e continued these e x as i t would b e moet detrimental n o w t o eliminate Reserve Banks penditures which havé been made b y the Federal Rofor a number of years with the approval of the Federal serve Board, (See also pages 251 - 254 stenographic record) Reserve Topic J V . . . W h a t should b e the policy o f Federal charges Joint. Pro.#10 Banks w i t h reference t o making against surplus f o r the items onumerated below when current e a m i n g s a r e insufficient to provide therefor: 1. D i v i d e n d s . 2, R e s e r v e s t o cover annual depreciation of bank premises. 3, C h a r g e - o f f s f o r purpose o f reducing b o o k value o f bank buildings t o approximate r e - placement costs. 4. F u r n i t u r e a n d equipment. Upon motion o f Governor Strong/ i t wae the bank's accounts VOTED t h a t i n order t o preserve the integrity o f there should b e no change i n and the accuracy o f its statements o f condition, surplus t o cover annual the present practice o f making charges against https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis f sree B Y dee depreciation o f bank premises (item 2 above) o r furniture and equipment (item 4 above.) It being understood t h a t charge-offs f o r the purpose o f reducing book value o f bank buildings t o approximate replacement costs (item 3 above) are a matter which i e subject t o consideration i n view of amount o f earings during t h e year f o r which t h e charge-offe a r e to. b e made, i t was VOTED that each Federal reserve bank be requested by the ns aa n appropriate Federal Reserve Board t o advise i t what i t r e c o m m e n d charge-off for this item for this year owing t o unusual and varying con~ ditions, Ae to the question o f dividends (item 1 above) upon motion o f Governor Seay, i t was VOTED t o b e the sensa o f the conference that dividends should be paid out o f surplus, a surplus accumulated partially for the purpose o f paying dividends, i f it should appear that theemmingse, after making the charge-offs on items 2 and 4 above, are ineufficient to cover dividendg Governor Young voted i n the negative, (See pages 254 » 261 stenographic record) Third Day's Session, Wednesday, November 12, 1924 Separate Governors Session Morning The meeting wae called t o order a t 9:15 o'clock a.m. Topic: Li. A. R e p o r t o f Standing Committee o n Collections (See also paragraphe 1 3 and 49) Mr. Strater, Chairman of the Standing Committee o n Collections, appeared before the conference t o discuss the report o f his committee pre- \ viously submitted. A f t e r discussion a n d action b y the conference o n in- dividual recommendations contained i n the report, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis i t was =i3s VOTED t o approve the report (printed on pages 262 - 287 stenographic record) with such qualifications o r exceptions a s might have been noted during the course o f the discussion. For simplification o f the record, there follows herewith a summary of the report, with such notations o r qualifications a s were made b y the conference a t the time o f its adoption: } Uniform paragraph defining peneral conditions u n d e r | which Federal Reserve Banks w i l l accept checks a n d other c a s h items f o r collection. ( 3 9 ) In order that the terms o f collection might appear i n one circular letter and thus avoid the necessity for member banks | referring both t o the circular letter and the regulations o f the~ _ Board i n order t o know these terms, the committee suggests a com_ bination o f the uniform liability paragraph previously recommended _ with Section 5 of Kegulation J of the Federal heserve Board. 5 ( S e e pages 1 and 2 of report o f committee; p a g e s 263 - | 266 stenographic record) Possible limitation of kind or dollar amount of non- ( 4 0 ) cash items t o b e handled b y the Federal Reserve Banks f o r collection. YN The committee reported that after v e r y careful study, B e it was o f the opinion that i t is not only undesirable t o limit the kind o r dollar amount o f non-cash collection items, but that it would b e impractical t o d o so. increase o f service charge o n unpaid items. ( 4 1 The committee reported that i t feels that the imposition of a service charge o n unpaid, unpretested items i s necessary i n order t o prevent abuse o f the collection facilities, but i t recommends that the Conference o f Governors consider what should b e the amount o f that charge, a n d suggests that whatever charge may be determined upon shall b e strictly enforced b y every Federal reserve dank. After consideration of this recommendation, upon motion of Governor Seay, i t was : V O T E D t o be the sense o f the conference that the present fifteen cent charge shall b e maintained and that i t shall b e enforced invariably b y all Federal reserve banks. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ) SiGe Uniform endorsements and guarantee o f prior endorse- ( 4 2 ) ments o n non-cash collections. The committee reported that i n its opinion, i t is not desirable that the wording o f all endorsements o n non-cash collection items should b e absolutely uniform, i n view of the fact that there does not appear a t the present time t o be any uniform practice among commercial banks with respect t o the former endorsement. Furthermore, because of the fact that there is n o uniformity i n the Court decisions a s to the effect o f restricting endorsements, the committee reported that in its opinion i t is desirable that this whole question b e again referred t o the counsel o f each Federal reserve bank for a n opinion a s to the necessity o f a guarantee o f prior endorsements o n non-cash collection items. In considering this recommendation o f the committee, the conference upon motion o f Governor Calkins VOTED t h a t this question should b e submitted t o the Federal Reserve Board with the request that they ask the counsel o f the Federal reserve banks w h o a r e t o meet i n conference i n Washington i n December t o con-~ sider and make recommendations concerning this whole question and concerning the need, i f any, o f having reserve banks u s e words i n their endorsement of both checks a n d non-cash items t o relieve t h e m o f liability w h e n guaranteeing prior endorsements. It was the sense o f the conference that the counsel for the reserve banks should b e free t o call upon Mr. Strater o r any other person t o discuss this question with them. Uniform liability paragraph i n non-cash collection circular. The committee refers t o the uniform paragraph recom- mended b y the committee t o the October, 1922 Conference o f Governors, w h i c h w a s approved a n d adopted b y that conference, The committee suggests a slight modification t o that paragraph and recommends that, as modified, (printed o n pages 278 and 279 stenographic record) i t be made a part of the new non-cash collection circular t o b e issued b y each Federal reserve bank, ia considering this recommendation o f the committee, the conference beck \ https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis t o approve it, with authority, however, f o r each Federal =20— reserve bank t o substitute the words “for the account o f this bank," for the words “for our account," i n the third line o f the paragraph. ( P r i n t e d jon page 279 stenographic record) ‘Authority o f a Federal reserve bank t o accept i n payment o f a collection item, a for the draft o f the drawee. bank draft given i n exchange The committee reported that after considering the new Kegulation J , series o f 1924, i n connection with this question, i t is of the opinion that i t is doubtful whether a Federal reserve bank would b e protected against liability in a n y case where t h e original remittance d r a f t i s not c o n = verted immediately into actually and finally collected funds. The committee accordingly recommends t h a t t h e question b e submitted b y each Federal reserve b a n k t o its counsel f o r a n opinion. In considering this recommendation o f the committee, the conference VOTED that this question be referred to the conference of counsel o f the several Federal reserve banks which i s to be held i n Washington o n December 5, 1924. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Withdrawals f r o m the P a r List. The committee recommends that because o f the fact that i t is practically impossible t o keep all member banks promptly informed o f the removal o r withdrawal o f names o f nonmember banks from the par list between issues o f the printed list, e a c h Federal reserve b a n k follow a uniform | procedure suggested by the committee (see pages 12 and 13” of committee's report o r pages 283 and 284 stenographic record) in order t o protect the sending bank as well a s the receiving bank o r branch against the possibility o f loss i n cases where items a r e sent direct f r o m member banks i n o n e district t o Federal reserve banks i n another district. Caption o n title page o f semi-annual Inter-District Collection System Booklet. The committee recommends that a s a n added protection against loss to Federal reserve banks and branches, the Federal Reserve Board should print upon the title page o f this booklet a phrase substantially a s follows: “Subjeet t o change without notice." : ne o e Study o f cash items protested b y all Federal reserve ( 4 7 ) banks. The committee reported that i t has made a comprehensive study o f the amount a n d character o f cash items prutested b y all Federal reserve banks a n d reported that i n i t s opinion t h e policy of the Federal reserve banks w i t h respect t o t h e Limit o n pro- tested items should b e governed b y the practice i n effect with commercial banks generally, a n d recommends that t h e present $10.00 minimum b e continued until commercial banks generally adopt a policy different from that now in effect. All o f the above recommendations o f the Standing Committee o n ( 4 8 ) Collections were approved b y the conference with such exceptions o r quali- “A fications, i f any, a s are noted above i n connection with individual recommendations. (See pages 262 - 314; 335 and 336 stenographic record) Possible charge for non-cash collection service. { 4 9 } In further reference t o Topic VI. A. (see paragraph 32), a n d i n connection with the report a n d recommendations o f the Standing Committee o n Collections previously adopted (see paragraphs 3 8 - 48 inclusive), t h e conference discussed a t some length the general question o f free services t o member banks with a view t o considering the imposition o f a charge o n the non-cash collection service i f at some later date such a charge should become advisable o r necessary i n view of the extent o f the service o r the cost o f conducting it. A f t e r further discussion, upon motion o f Governor calkins, i t was VOTED t h a t the Standing Committee o n Collections should b e requested t o continue the study already made b y the committee o f Governors o n Voluntary Services relative t o the question o f a charge f o r the non-cash collection service, a n d that i t be requested t o make a particular study of the use a n d extent o f the non-cash cotlection service w i t h a view t a reporting back to the conference what might be the effect o f a possible charge f o r this service, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis IN Poy eae committee, Tt was informally suggested that t h e i n conducting the individual reserve its investigation, might preferably act through w a y o f acquiring t h e requisite i n banks which should determine t h e best formation i n their respective districts. (see pages 314 = 335 stenographic record) that i t has authority Topic II. G . M e m b e r bank's warranty of of customer t o accept t h o s e provisions f or Regulation J regarding responsibility items. Recommended: be That t h e Standing Committee o n Collections coninstructed t o prepare a uniform circular banks a n d taining a form o f contract between a n d cleartheir depositors, requesting member ingemember banks t o amend their contracts cards) {contained o n deposit slips and signature i n the in accordance w i t h t h e f o r m proposed circular; a n d Recommended further: That t h e Federal Reserve Ranks amend their cheek collection circular o n March 1, 1925, checks to provide that t h e act o f submitting will collection f o r Banks to Federal Reserve Be construed 2 S a warranty that the depositor has Lodged with the depositing bank the required agreements, (See also paragraph 19) Upon motion o f Governor Harding, i t was the Federal Reserve Bank o f VoTrp t h a t t h e t w o recommendations o f San Francisco, i n c l u d e d i n this topic, b e referred t o the conference o f with counsel of Federal reserve banks to mect i n Yashington o n December 5, concerning the request t h a t t h e y consider a n d make their recommendation each o f these proposals. (See pages 336 - 341 stenographic record) t o reconvene a t At 11:00 o'clock a. m. the conference adjourned g o into 2:15 otclock p. m., when i t was understood the conference would Reserve joint conference with the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal questions submitted Agents t o report t o the Federal Reserve Board o n all to the conference b y the Board. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis “ite Fourth Day's Session, Thursday, November 13, 1924 Separate Governors Session Morning The meeting was called t o order a t 9:00 o'clock a. m Topie IiI. BE. R e g i s t e r e d mail insurance o n Federal Keserve Notes. Governor Strong reviewed a report received b y him from Mr. Kenzel concerning the interest o f the Federal reserve banks i n the new insurance policy taken out b y the Treasury. H e referred t o the fact that Mr. Winston had expressed his willingness t o review this whole question o f the insurance riders towards t h e e n d o f the first year o f the policy with a view to getting a better distribution o f rates for some o f those Federal reserve banks which insure under the terms o f the policy a t rates higher than were i n effect a t the time o f the old policy. Upon motion o f Governor MeDougal, i t was VOTED that the conference should request Mr. Winston to consider this matter w i t h t h e Insurance Committee w e l l before t h e e n d o f the first year of the present policy with a view t o getting some report o n a n alternate schedule o f rates a s a basis f o r discussion w i t h t h e Treasury's underwriters. (See pages 342 - 347 stenographie record) Topic IV. A. 3. Report of Committee o n Standardization o f Supplics. Upon motion o f Governor c e VOTED t o accept the report (printed pages 348 - 362 stenographic record) with the understanding that the operating men o f each Federal reserve bank be requested to study it carefully for their guidance and with the further understanding thet the purchasing agents o f the several Federal reserve banks keep the committee jnformed o f any instance where, i n their opinion, t h e y might b e able t o g e t articles a t cheaper rates than are prevailing i n other cistriste, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis e pages 348 e - 370 stenographic S n) ( Trecord = 24% Topic IV. A. 4. Report o f Insurance Committee. Upon full consideration o f the report o f t h e Insurance Committee (printed pages 370 - 372 stenographic record), i t was VOIED t o <oqueet the Federal Reserve Board t o express its opinion o n the question o f principle involved i n adopting inter-bank selfinsurance plans f o r b o t h fidelity a n d life insurance. (See pages 3 7 0 = 382 stcnographic record) Tepie t \ e A n S e R e p o r t o f Committee t o Study t h e Cost o f Securing Credit Information. Governor McDougal asked that this topic be passed in view of the fact that t h e committee h a d n o t submitted a n y further reporte (See page 382 stenographic record) Topic IV. B. 1, R e p o r t of Pension Committee. Upon motion o f Governor Young, i t was VOIED t o accept a n d approve t h e report o f the Pension Committee (printed pages 382 ~ 385 stenographic record) recommending that the Federal Reserve Board b e requested t o give further study t o and expression o f their opinion concerning t h e p l e n which h a s been recommended f r o m time t o time b y the Pension C o m i t t e e a n d the bill which has b e e n prepared b y the counsel for the cormittee a n d recently submitted t o the Federal Reserve Board, i t being the sense o f the conference that some such bill, which would make i t possible for the reserve banks t o adopt a n adequate pension plan, s h o u l d b e passed a s soon 4 s might b e possible. (See pages 382 - 389 stenographic record) Topic IV, B. 2. A m e r i c a n Federation o f Labor Organization of Bank Clerks. Gevernor Strong reviewed briefly the meeting which h e had i n New York with representatives o f the Amcrican Federation o f Labor i n reference t o the possible organization o f bank clerks, a n d stated that h e had advised these representatives that h e was definitely o posed i n we e e R O principle t o a n organiz-tion o f bank clerks for the purpose o f collective https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis bargaining, (See pages 382 - 396 etenographic record) Registering commercial paper, (57) Governor Wellborn referred t o the fact that h e had some corres~ pondence with the editor o f a current periodical with reference t o the question o f having Federal reserve banks register commercial paper. W h i l e Governor Wellborn asked for no action o n this topic - informally referred W A to b y him - it was the general consensus o f opinion that i t would b e highly impracticable and undesirable f o r Federal reserve banks t o attempt to perform this service, mOptC iV. 0. .. R e p o r t o f Leased Wire Committee ( 5 8 ) Governor McDougal m a d e a n oral report a s t o t h e number o f messages transmitted o v e r t h e leased wires a n d referred t o t h e substantial decrease owing to the adoption o f the new regulations made effective Jully 15, 1924. a He reported that a s a consequence o f this reduction, there had been a large Fes E saving i n expense. U p o n motion o f Governor Seay, i t was v e VOTED t o receive and approve the report. (Ses pages 396 and 397 stenographic record) Use o f Leased Wires t o advise payment o f discounted Bill o f Lading Drafts. ( 5 9 ) Governor McKinney suggested f o r consideration o f the conference the question o f using the leased wires for advice o f paymont o f bill of lading drafts that have b e e n discounted b y Federal reserve bank. N I N H e stated that, i n his opinion, advices of payments of such drafts should be sent over the leased wires rather than over the commercial wires, since having been discounted b y the Federal reserve bank they are in an entirely differant c a t e g o r y f r o m other drafte received f o r collection f o r account of member banks, After consideration b y the gonference, i t was https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ae s e VOTED t h a t whenever bill o f lading drafts which have been dis- counted b y a Federal reserve bank are forwarded t o another Federal reserve bank for collection, advice o f payment o r non-payment should be made over the leased wires regardless o f the present provisions o f the leased wire regulations relating t o the advice o f payment o r non-payment o f non-cash collection i t e m s generally. I t was understood, however, t h a t i n a n y such case the sending Federal reserve bank which had discounted the bill of lading draft s h o u l d attach a conspicuous notice a s evidence o f the fact that the draft i r question was discounted, (See pages 397 - 406 stenographic record) Topic IV. C. 3. Reconcilement o f provisions of Telegraphic ( 6 0 ) Transfer circulars o f Federal Reserve Banks with recommendations embodied i n Board's letter x-4099. &See also paragraph 65) Governor Biges and Governor Calkins referred t o the fact that certain Federal Reserve Banks are not complying strictly with the terms of the Federal Reserve Board's letter X-4099 relating t o telegraphic a d v i c e of wire transfers received f o r account o f member banks. T h e reserve banks W w in question g i v e telegraphic a d v i c e i n addition t o t h e usual m a i l advice o n l y when requested b y the sending o r credited member bank o r when the amount o r o s nature o f the transaction justify t h e additional expense. Tn view o f the fact that n o definite action was asked for, upon motion o f Governor Harding, i t was https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis VOTED t o lay the topic o n the table. ( B u t see paragraph 65) (See pages 406 - 414; 427 - 429 stenographic record) Leased wires between parent b a n k a n d branch bank. While n o formal action w a s asked f o r b y Governor McKinney, w h o ieee a suggested this topic, restrictions i t was t h e sense o f the conference t h a t t h e general o r limitations applicable t o the leased wires d e not apply to the use o f the private wire between the parent bank and branch bank which i s purely a local matter subject t o local control. (See page 414 stenographic record) Topic IV. D . C o s t o f securing reports o f examination o f national banks. (See also paragraph 64) After a thorough discussion o f this question, i t appeared that many o f the Governors a n d boards o f directors o f the Federal reserve banks were opposed t o the payment o f the prevailing charge for national b a n k reperts, s u c h charge b e i n g fixed f o r the purpose o f meeting a n expense which the law-:contemplates should b e borne b y the national banks examined rather than f o r the purpose o f offsetting t h e actual cost of providing copies of the reports of examination. U p o n motion of Governor Harding, i t was VOTED t h a t the conference authorize the chairman o f the con- ference to appoint a committee of three, o f which he should be chairman, with a view t o taking this matter u p with the Federal Keserve Board. Governor Strong accordingly appointed Governors Bailey and Norris t o serve o n this committee a s requested b y the conference. (See pages 414 - 422 stenographie record) At 12:00 o'clock noon the conference adjourned i n order that the committee above referred to (see paragraph 62) might meet with the Federal Reserve Board. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis é ges Fourth Day! e s s i o n , Thursday, November 1 3 , 1924 eperate Governors Session Afternoon The mceting w a s called t o order a t 2:15 o'clock p . m, Governor Strong reported informally t o the conference that the ( 6 3 ) profit o f some $980,000 o n the long time investments i n the open market account had not only been wiped out i n the past week or ten days, but now showed a lose o f approximately $60,000, I t was understood, however, t h a t in spite o f this change i n the situation, t h e Open Market Investment Committee should begin making exchanges o f long time investments f o r shorter e ‘ time investments, a s previously voted b y the conference, s o far as i t could do s o without establishing losses, Topic IV. D. cont'd. C o s t o f securing reports o f examination of national banks. (See also paragraph 62) ( 6 4 ) At the request o f the chairman, Governor Norris reported the result o f the meeting o f the conference's committee with the Federal Reserve Boards T h e committee advised the Federal Reserve Board o f the views o f the Governors Conference a n d t h e individual banks w i t h respect t o t h e payment of a charge f o r the reports o f national b a n k examinations i n excess o f the price sufficient m e r e l y t o cover t h e cost o f typing, a n d proposed t h a t t h e Federal Reserve Board should take some definite position i n the matter, Governor Norris reported t h a t after further discussion o f the question a resolution w a s adopted leaving i t with Governor Crissinger t o arrange a later meeting with Secretary Mellon, Mr. Winston, t h e Comptroller of the Currency, t h e Federal Reserve Board, a n d the Committee o f Governors representing the Conference o f Governors further t o discuss this question. Upon Governor Bailey's request, Governor Streng appointed Governor Harding t o act i n Governor Bailey's place o n this committee. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (See pages 422 ~ 426 etenographic record) o e = 80 sa Topic IV. ¢ . 3 . cont'd. R e c o n c i l e m e n t o f provisions o f Si Telegraphic Transfer circulars of Federal Reserve Banks with recommendations embodied i n Board's letter X-4099. (See also paragraph 60) Inorder finally to dispose of this topic, which had previously been laid o n the table, upon motion o f Governor Young, i t was VOTED that this topic be referred to the Leased Wire Committee in collaboration with the Standing Committee o n Collections, with the re- | quest t o make a study o f the question and such recommendation t o the = Federal Reserve Board as might be necessary i n order to reconcile the | practice o f some reserve banks with existing regulations o r else to make appropriate amendments t o the regulations, a Se a l = (See pages 406 - 414; 427 - 429 stonographic record) Topic IV. . Branch Directors Effects o f increasing the number o f directors of branches i n conformity with the Board's letter x-3956; a n d advisability o f recommending t o Board that branches b e operated under rules end regulations approved b y the Board a s provided b y law, rather than by by-laws. After a discussion o f the effect o f the Board's regulations con- d i n its letter e X-3956, upon n motion ofiGovernor Calkins, a i t was t VOTED t o b e the s m s e o f the conference that i t i s wmdesirable to require Federal reserve banks t e increase t h e directors o f branches f r o m a five to seven, but that the number of the board of directors of a branch should b e left t o the individual judgment e f each Federal reserve bank, Governor ‘fellborn voted i n the negative, Upon motion of Governor Calkins, i t was alse VOTED t o b e the sense o f the conference that i t i s undesirable e to require a member o f the board o f directors o f a branch, other than the @ m a n a g e r , t o act a s chairman o f that board o f directors, a n c that i t i s also https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis NA - 3 0 «- undesirable t o change the present title o f the manager o f the branch. Upon motion of Governor Calkins, the last half of Topic IV. 2. was withdraw from the program. (See pages 429 + 437 stenographic record): Tonic IV.2. H o l d i n g s o f real estate b y Federal Reserve “anks. After a general discussion o f this topic, i t was apreed that there is nothing i n the law to prohibit a Federal reserve bank holding real estate which it acquires i n the due course of its business. Governor Dailey, w h o proposed this topic, asked f o r n o action. (See pages 1437 - 439 stenographic record) Topic V.A. Procedure now being followed in the execution of orders f o r the Treasury Department. Governor Strong outlined briefly the procedure i n the New York Reserve Sank relating t o t h e employment o f brokers a n d t h e execution o f orders for account o f the Treasury. H e asked for no action, hut merely wanted t o explain t o the conference what h e considers t o b e the need f o r particular care i n conducting this business. {See pages 439 - 441 stenographic record) Topic V . B . R e d e m p t i o n o f debenture. bonds issued b y Federal Land and Intermeciate Credit Banks. pon motion, duly seconded, i t was VOTED, t h a t i n the interest o f economy and uniformity, t h e same aN policy b e pursued i n connection w i t h t h e redemption o f the debenture >onds issued by the Federal Land and Intermediate Credit Tanks as is now followed in connection w i t h t h e payment o f Federal F a r m Loan courons. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (See pages 441 and 442 stenopranhic record) Topic V.C. Canceled United States honds, notes and Treasury certificates o f indebtedness lost in the mails w h i l e e n route t o Washington. Experience of Federal Reserve Sank of San Francisco, wnich was requested b y Treasurer to make restitution f o r lost bonds because serial numbers o f bonds stolen while i n transit could not » e correctly rciven. After a brief discussion o f the n e e d f o r protection i n cases where canceled United States notes and Treasury certificates o f indebtedness are lost i n the mails i n cases where the Federal reserve bank i s unable t o furnish numbers, the topic was passed without action. (See pages 442 - 444 stenographic record) Topic VI. B. W h a t can be done when a member bank refuses to comply with the Regulations? Upon request of Governor Bailey, who proposed this topic, i t was withdrawn f r o m the program. (See page 445 stenographic record) Topic V1, C. Examination of State banks. Procedure i n various districts a s to action taken b y examining departments regarding State member banks which have not maintained, after membership, as hich a standard in the value of assets as would entitle them to pass an examination for admission t o system. Upon request of Governor Calkins, each Federal reserve bank outlined i t s practice relative t o t h e examination o f State banks which a r e mem- bers o f the Federal Reserve System. I t appeared t o be the general practice among Federal reserve banks t e have Federal reserve bank examiners cooperate with the State banking authorities when making examinations o f State member banks. I t was pointed out, however, that i n special cases, the Federal re- serve bank might properly send their o m examiners for a special examination. (See pages 446 - 451 stencgraphic record) Topic Vi. D. Committee of Trust Company Division, . A B. A. on "Relations with the Federal Reserve System" for the purpose o f c r y s t a l l i z i n g e h t vresent m e m b e r s h i pf o trust companies a n d inducing wherever possible eligible nonmember trust companies t o join t h e system. Upon motion o f Governor Strong, i t was VOTED t e b e the sense o f the conference t h a t t h e secretary should advise Mr. McLucas, chairman of the Trust Company Division, A, B. A. o n https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ono “Relations with the Federal keserve System," that each Federal reserve bank would cooperate t o the extent o f its power i n any proper way t o aid i n their program t o procure t h e membership o f eligible nonmember trust companies when called upon t o d o so, and to express the appreciation o f the conference i n the action o f the American Bankers Association. (See pages 451 - 453 stenographie record) SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAM Supplemental W h a t amendments to the National Bank act are Topie 3 8 n e c e s s a r y i n order that national banks may be better able to mect banking requirements and that the development o f the national banking System may more closely follow the trend of banking development n i the country at large so_far_as experience shows that this development is along sound and strong lines? Upon motion o f Governor Harding, i t was VOTED that this topic, which was submitted by the Federal Reserve Board, should b e passed o n the ground that the Governors have not yet had suffieient time t o give i t careful study. (See pages 453 and 454 stenographie record) Supplemental W h a t steps should be taken t o bring about the Topic #2. g r a d u a l retirement o f the national bank currency a n d the final retirement o f the legal tenders? Upon motion of Governor Seay, i t was VOTED t o be the sense of the conference (a) that national bank notes should gradually b e retired from circulation, (b) that the action o f the Treasury Department i n ealling the 4 per cent. bonds o f 1925 resulting in the. retirement of approximately $76,000,000 in national bank notes should b e commended a s a proper a n d logical s t e p toward that e n d a n d i n line with the policy o f simplifying currency contemplated i n the passage o f the Federal Reserve Act, and (ec) that, before any additional steps looking toward the further retirement o f national bank currency are taken, i t would https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis int - 3 3 - A c t s o a s t o confer u p o n national be advisable t o amend t h e National B a n k effectively t o compete w i t h banks other powers which will enable t h e m more State institutions, (See pages 454 - 455 stenographic record) Supplemental W h e t h e r o r not a Federal Reserve B a n k m a y items Topic #5. m r o p e r l y receive maturing collection with instructions t o deposit t h e proceeds of the collection i n some commercial b a n k for the account o f a member bank. Upon motion o f Governor Calkins, i t was Collections. (See pages 456 and 457 stenographic record) Supplemental C o m m u n i c a t i o n f r o m t h e Austrian Association Topic #6, o f Banks and Bankers relative t o counterfeit currency. Governor Strong referred t o the communication o f the Austrian Association o f Banks and Bankers, asking for the cooperation o f the Federal reserve benks i n their program t o detect counterfeits a n d prose= cute counterfeiters, H e stated that the Department o f State had already passed upon the character o f the association i n question a n d that the a Treasury Department had also made a satisfactory investigation. Upon motion o f Governor McDougal, i t was steps VOTED t h a t the secretary o f the conference should take the necessary t o comply w i t h t h e request o f the association f o r o u r cooperation. (See pages 457 and 458 stenographic record) Supplemental M e m b e r Bank Expense. Topic #7. D i s c u s s i o n of circulars issued by the Federal Reserve Banks o f Boston a n d New York relative to the comparison o f the operations o f repre- sentative member banks. Upon motion o f Governor Strong, X Y i t was VOTED t h a t the secretary o f the conference b e authorized t o refer this matter t o Mr. J a y with t h e suggestion t h a t h e take i t u p with t h e https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ed F e d e r a l Reserve Agents, (See pages 459 and 460 stenographic record) Supplemental W h e t h e r o r not i t might b e advisable t o suggest Topic #8. t o the Féderal Reserve Bank of Atlanta the question o f employing a coumsel representative of all Federal Keserve Banks t o take part i n the pending case o f Pousson v . Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta. (See also paragraph 15) Upon motion o f Governor Seay, i t was VOTED t h a t the issues involved i n this case are purely local and not a matter o f System policy, a n d that, therefore, t h e conference would not be justified i n asking the Federal Reserve Board t o employ counsel t o represent t h e System a s a whole, (See pages 460 - 463 stenographic record) Supplemental Topic # 9 T B H . kK. 9768 = Congressman Thomas, Oklahoma. h i s bill would remove t h e Secretary o f the Treasury a n d Comptroller o f the Currency from membership o n the Federal Reserve B o a r d as ex-officio members, provide f o r a n additional appointive member t o represent o all Board labor, a n d increase t h e s a l a r y f members t o $25,000 per annum, etc. Upon motion o f Governor Harding, i t was VOTED t o b e t h e sense o f the conference t h a t i t prefers n o t t o express any opinion with respect t o this proposed bill for the reason that the members o f the conference have not had adequate time t o consider the subject matter o f the bill, a n d f o r the further reason that t h e bill does n o t appear directly t o affect the operations o f the Federal reserve banks, but relates t o the personnel and compensation o f the Federal Reserve Board. In the opinion o f the conference, this i s a matter for consideration by members o f the Federal Reserve B o a r d itself rather t h a n f o r the operating heads o f the Federal reserve banks. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (See page 464 stenographie record) Supplemental K e p o r t s o f Examinations o f National Banks. Topic # 3 . R e c o m m e n d e d : That the Office o f thé Comptroller o f the Currency revise reports o f examinations o f National banks s o that these reperts w i l l contain a separate schedule s h o w i n g notes rediscounted w i t h t h e Federal Reserve Banks m a s and pledged a s collateral, c l a s s i f y i n g e slow, doubtful, undesirable and loss, with such other information a s would b e o f value to t h e Federal Reserve Banks. In the absence o f Governor Wellborn, w h o proposed this topic, upon motion o f Governor Young, i t was VOTED b y the conference that any Federal reserve bank desiring the information referred t o i n this topie should take i t u p directly with the Comptroller o f the Currency. (See page 465 stenographic record) Supplemental Gorrespondence between Examiners and Topic # 4 . C o m p t r o l l e r ' s Office. Recommended: hat t h e examiners f u r n i s h t h e Federal n e - serve Banks with copies o f letters t o the Comptroller's Office b y directors o f banks under criticism and the replies t o such letters b y the Comptroller's Office. In the absence o f Governor Wellborn, who proposed this topic, upon motion o f Governor McDougal, i t was VOTED b y the conference that it was inadvisable to ask, and unreasonable to expect, the Comptroller of the Currency to furnish the information asked for i n this topic. - (See page 465 stenographic record) At 6:00 o'clock p . m t h e conference adjourned t o meet i n joint session a t 9:00 o'clock a. m. Friday, November 14, 1924. Fifth Day's Session, Friday, November 14, 1924 Separate Governors Session Afternoon The meeting was called t o order a t 1:10 p. m. i n executive session f o r the purpose o f further discussion o f discount rates. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis er At the conclusion o f the executive session, Governor Strong & b r i e f l y summarized t h e general views o f t h e conference o n this subject. (See pages 466 - 470 stenographic record) Election o f Chairmam o f Conference. Upon motion o f Governor Fancher, i t was VOIED t h a t Governor Strong should continue a s chairman o f the conference, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis At 1:45 o'clock p . m , t h e conference adjourned s i n e die. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis