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CONEIDENTIAL

SECRETARY'S

C5720 N i eas ING OP ERs S o e

M I N U T E S

I N is eae ee see a e s

December 11 and 12, 1929.

Washington, D. C.

INDEX T O SECRETARY'S MINUTES
GOVERNORS CONFERENCE
DECEMBER 1 1 AND 12, 1929.

Paragraph i n
Secretary's
Minutes
Amendment t o Bankruptcy A c t
Amendment t o F. R s A c t permitting payments o f extra
dividends t o member banks
Amendment t o F, R . A c t t o permit limited borrowing o n
investment s e c u r i t i e s

Amendment t o Regulation J
Air m a i l ,

Use of -

- - -

Appointment 'of Chairman a n d Secretary
Bailey, Telegram t o Governor
Bankruptcy Act, Amendment t o

Bonds, Distribution o f Government, held b y F. R- Bank of
New York

Boston reserve bank, Resolutions o f stockholders o f ~ - - - 4 , 45
Branch banking - - = Brokers loans figures, Publication o f
Canadian currency

Checks sent t o drawee banks i n other districts
Check collections, Interpretation o f uniform policy o n - Chain a n d branch banking Chairman, Appointment o f


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Paragraph i n
Secretary's
Minutes
Committee:
Bankers Acceptances, Subcommittee o f General Committee o n
F. R . Banks acting a s custodians o f securities,
Committee

t o study

F. R . credit operations, Committee t o study
Insurance
Leased wire

Open Market Investment
Pension
Standing Committee o n Collections
Uniform policy o f check collections, Committee t o confer
with Governor Young r e action o f conference o n
Customers notes, Specific maturity date i n body o f
Discontinuing payments o f o l d series F . R . Notes a n d
handling o f National b a n k notes a f t e r discontinuance

Discount rates and open market policies
Distribution o f profits a n d losses o n open market operationsDividends t o member banks, Amendment t o F. R. A c t permitting

Eligible p a p e r f o r rediscount
Examinations o f member banks, Memorandum r e proposed bill t o
amend l a w
Expense o f defénding suits brought b y F. R . banks t o recover

on forged endorsements
Federal Advisory Council, Recommendations

of

Federal F a r m Board, Services f o r

Federal Reserve Act, Amendment to, permitting payment o f
extra dividends t o member banks
Federal Reserve exchange, Liability incurred b y member
banks i n purchasing
Federal Reserve notes, Discontinuance o f payment o f o l d
series


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Paragraph i n

Secretary's
Minutes
Foreign exchange a n d gold movements
Foreign banks, Relations w i t h
Forged e n d o r s e m e n t s ,

Suits brought

b y F. R - banks

t o recover

Glass bill, Provisions o f
Gold movements -

- - +--+ =

Good wishes a t Christmas t i m e
Harding, Telegram t o Governor
*7- =

Increased dividends o n F. R. b a n k stock -

+"

Joint Conference o f Governors a n d Agents -

--+-*+re-#--

Liability incurred b y member banks i n purchasing F. R.
exchange
Loans o n call, P a p e r o f borrowers whose statements s h o w

Market rates, Desirable relationship o f discount rates t o
Maturity d a t e i n body o f customers notes

Member bank&-reserves, Advisability of appointing a committee
of experts t o study a n d report o n - Memorandum X-+6444 o f proposed bill t o amend l a w r e
examinations o f member banks - - - Methods o f popularizing membership i n F. R. System -

-

National bank notes, Handling o f redemptions o f - - - Open Market Investment Committee:
Operations o f
Procedure o f
Report o f
Operations a n d relations w i t h foreign banks
Paper o f borrowers: whose statements s h o w loans o n call


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Secretary's
Minutes
Participation i n Government bonds purchased b y F. R.
of N e w York
Policies o f open market
Procedure o f Open Market Investment Committee
Profits a n d losses, Distribution o f o n open market
operations
Proposed bill t o amend l a w r e examinations o f member banks

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Publication o f brokers loans figures
Recommendations o f Federal Advisory Council
Redemption o f Canadian currency through F. R. banks a n d
branches
Rediscounts, Eligible p a p e r f o r
Regulation J , Amendment t o
Relations w i t h foreign banks
R e l a t i o n s h i pf
o discount rates t o market rates
Reports:

Bankers Acceptances, Sussommittee o f General Committee o n 42
F. R. Banks acting a s custodians o f securities, Committee t o study
Fe R. credit operations, Committee t o study
Insurance committee
Leased wire committee
Open Market Investment Committee
Pension committee
Relations w i t h foreign banks
Standing Committee o n Collections Uniform policy o f check collections, Committee t o confer with Governor Young r e action o f conference o n = = - 2l

Reserve requirements, Computation o f
Resolutions a d o p t e d
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F . R. Bank


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Paragraph i n
Secretary's
Minutes
Secretary, Appointment o f - - =
Securities, bills, a n d rates
Services f o r Federal F a r m Board
Standing Committee o n Collections Telegrams t o Governors B a i l e y a n d Harding -

- -

Telegraphic transfers o f funds, Protection against f r a u d
2
s S e oe o e
in Connection w i t h « « <- <-.+ Uniform policy r e check collections, Interpretation o f Unsorted items s e n t i n b y small out-of-town banks -

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PROGRAM
G O V E R N O R S

CONFRRENCOSE

December 1 1 a n d 12, 1929.
Washington, D . C .

CREDIT TRANSACTIONS A N D POLICIES

A. O p e n Market Operations.
1. R e p o r t o f Open Market Investment Committee.
2. S e c u r i t i e s , Bills, a n d Rates.

B. D i s c o u n t Rates a n d Open Market Policies.
Desirable relationship o f discount rates t o

market rates,
C. R e l a t i o n s w i t h Foreign Banks.
4 Report.

ez. Operations.
he F o r e i g n exchanges a n d gold movements.
D. P a p e r o f B o r r o w e r s W h o s e S t a t e m e n t s S h o w L o a n s

on

F r a n c i s c o

Call.
In a number o f instances i t has b e e n found
that borrowers w h o s e paper has b e e n submitted f o r discount showed funds loaned
on call o n statement date.
I t might

seem desirable therefore for the confer-~
ence t O make a study o f this feature for
the guidance o f the Governors.
E. R e p o r t o f committee appointed a t November 1928
conference t o study F , R. credit operations
including effectiveness o f discount r a t e
changes a n d open market operations i n con-

trolling total volume of F. R. credit. ( S e e
paragraph 44 Secretary's minutes April 1929
Conference o f Governors.)
tke C O L L E C T I O N S A N D CLEARINGS
Ae R e p o r t o f Standing Committee o n Collections.
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I n instances i n which forgeries o f endorsements K a n s a s
are Claimed t o exist o n checks handled f o r
collection b y a F. R...bank-for t h e account o f
another F . R . bank a n d prior endorsers d e n y
right o f recovery o n such checks w h i c h r e sults i n suits b e i n g brought against t h e
Federal reserve b a n k s o handling t h e checks,
as between t h e t w o Federal. reserve banks,
which b a n k should defend s u c h suits a n d bear

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the expense o f making defense.
Use o f A i r Mail.
S
a
Due t o increased efficiency o f air-mail s e r e
vice, i t would s e e m that s o m e further thought

n Francisco

should be given t o the practicability o f using such service i n the extension o f collection facilities, t o a greater degree.
Sending C h e c k s D i r e c t

t o DraveeBanks

i n Other Dis-

F

. R s Board

F

. R. Board

F

. R . Board

tricts. ( S e e Board's letter x-6405 dated
October 31, 1929 a n d Report o f Standing Commit-

tee o n Collections o f November, 1927.)
Interpretation o f Uniform Policy r e Check Collec-

tions. ( S e e Board's letter X-6409 dated
November 7, 1929.)
COIN, CURRENCY, A N D CIRCULATION
A. D i s c o n t i n u i n g Payments o f Old Series F . R. Notes.
Question o f discontinuing payments o f o l d

series F. R. notes i n the denominations o f $5

to$100 inclusive, and the problem of handling
National b a n k notes o f those denominations a f -

ter discontinuance o f payments o f F. R. and
U. S. notes i n the old series. ( S e e Board's
letter X-6393 dated October 19, 1929.)
B. Canadian Currency.

C

h

i

c

a

Proposed p l a n f o r redemption o f Canadian curren-

cy through F. R. banks and branches.

g

o

S a n Francisco

(See

Board's letter X-6370 dated September 4, 1929.)
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A. Specific Maturity Date i n Body o f Customers Notes.
Desirability o f requesting American Bankers
Association t o induce commercial banks t o in-

corporate specific maturity date i n the body
of customers! n o t e s instead o f t h e present
practice o f having notes r e a d " 9 0 days after
date", etc. ( S e e report o f Auditors Confer-

ence held March 194%, 1929.)
Report o f committee o n policy o f F. R. banks acting a s custodians o f securities including
bankers bills pledged t o secure public deposits.

(See paragraph 41 Seeretary's minutes April 1929
Conference o f Governors.)

F . R y Board


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Member Bank Reserves.
Advisability o f appointing a committee o f
experts t o devote entire t i m e t o study a n d

New Y o r k

report o n whole subject.
Publication o f Brokers Loans Figurcs.
1.Should t h e y b e discontinued a n d i f so, when;
2.0r should t h e y b e more directly associated
with total collateral loans o f reporting
member banks.

New Y o r k

Chain a n d Branch Banking.
Desirability o f appointing a committee t o study
and report o n past a n d future development o f
banking through branches, chains, groups, e t c »
in order that t h e F. R . System might b e prepared i f necessary t o make recommendations t o
Congress i f asked t o d o so.

New Y o r k

Advisability o f recommending amendment t o F. R.
Act permitting payment o f extra dividends t o

New Y o r k
Boston

member banks o n F. R. bank stock a s proposed b y

Dallas

Senator Glass i n a bill introduced b y h i m i n
the last Congress.
Should g o o d wishes a t Christmas t i m e b e taken a s
a matter o f course a n d the sending o f messages
over t h e leased wire conveying Christmas greetings b e discontinued.

Boston

Is there anything t h a t c a n b e done t o protect banks
against f r a u d i n connection w i t h telegraphic
transfers o f funds s u c h a s was imposed o n the

Kansas C i t y

New York banks b y the Bank o f Telluride, Colo.
Services f o r Federal F a r m Board,
Reimbursement o f expenses, etc. i n connection
with F . R . banks acting a s Fiscal A g e n t o f the
United States o n behalf o f Federal F a r m Board
in connection w i t h advances m a d e b y the Board

San F r a n c i s c o

jointly with banks. ( F o r discussion.)
Methods o f Popularizing Membership i n the F. R.
System.

Ls I n c r e a s e d dividends o n stock. S e n a t o r
Glass! bill. A r e proportions fair.
Is i t desirable t h a t earnings s h o u l d b e
pooled t o make extra dividends s a m e i n
all districts.

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Advisability o f a n amendment t o the F. R .
Act t o permit limited borrowing o n
strictly defined investment securities
held b y member banks.

Permitting small out-of-town member banks
to send i n items unsorted w i t h a n agrecd
average d a t e o f availability.
Providing a s part o f the much-needed general
revision o f reserve requireiients, t h e deduction f r o m gross deposits o f -

(a) C a s h i n vault;

(bo) I t e m s with F. R. banks i n process
of collection.
Advisability o f a n amendment t o t h e Bankruptcy A c t providing that funds i n the
custody o f the Federal courts shall b e
deposited w i t h member banks o f the F. R e
System.

Report o f Leased Wire Committee.
Report o f Insurance Committee.
Report

o f Pension Committee.

Report o f Subcommittee o f General Committee o n
Bankers Acceptances.
SUPPLEMENTARY TOPICS

Ae A m e n d m e n t t o Regulation J , ( S e e Board's letter
X-6389 dated October 16, 1929.)
Resolutions Adopted a t Stockholders Meeting o f

F. R. Bank o f Boston o n November 8, 1929.
Proposed letter X-6443, subject: "Liability

Incurred b y a Member Bank i n Purchasing F. R.
Exchange.

Proposed Bill t o Amend Law R e Examinations o f
Member B a n k s .

( S e e memorandum X-6444 dated

October 7 , 1 9 2 9 . 7)
Recommendations

o f Federal A d v i s o r y Council.

R

. Board

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GO V - h R N O R S .

December 1 1 a n d 12, 1 S
Washington,

D . C.

First Day's Session, Wednesday, D e c e m b e r 11.
Morning

The meeting w a s called t o order a t 11:15 a . m .
PRESENT: G o v e r n o r Calkins, Chairman, a n d
Governors Harrison, Norris, Fancher,
Seay, B l a c k , M c D o u g a l , M a r t i n , G e e r y ,

and Talley.
Deputy Governors Paddock a n d Worthington.

Mr. Strater, Secretary.
The Chairman announced that t h e first order o f business
was t h e appointment o f a Chairman a n d Secretary f o r t h e calendar
year 1930.

I t was thereupon
VOTED t h a t Governor Calkins b e re-appointed Chairman

and Mr. Strater re-appointcd Secretary o f the Conference o f Gov~
ernors f o r t h e calendar y e a r 1930.
TOPIC 3 4 A s O p e n Market Operations.
Lae R e p o r t o f Open Market Investment
Committee.

as S e c u r i t i e s , Bills, a n d Rates.
TOPIC 7 . a. D i s c o u n t Rates a n d Open Market Policies.
Desirable relationship o f discount
rates t o market rates,

(See paragraphs 7, 8, and 10)
Governor Harrison distributed copies o f the report o f

the Secretary o f the Open Market Investment Committee t o the
i the Open MarGovernors conference, reviewing t h e t r a n s a c t i o n s n
ket I n v e s t m e n t A c c o u n t s i n c e t h e l a s t C o n f e r e n c e

o f Governors.

He also reviewed a t length t h e development i n the N e w York money
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explained the actions taken by-the F. R. Bank o f New York during
that period.

At 11:15 a. m. Honorable Roy A. Young, Governor o f
the Federal Reserve Board, entered t h e meeting a n d stated that
in accordance w i t h t h e recommendation o f a majority o f t h e
Conference o f Governors h e l d i n April, 1929, t h e Board h a d
adopted t h e amendment t o Regulation J

as recoumended b y a

majority report o f the Conference o f Counsel h e l d a t t h e same

time. B e c a u s e o f conflicting interpretations placed upon the
proposed amendment by: the F. R . banks, t h e F. R. Board was i n
some doubt a s t o whether t h e Board's letter X-6389 dated

October 16, 1929 should be made effective as of January 1, 1950,
and stated that the Board would like t o have a recommendation
from this conference a s t o whether t h e letter should be. rescinded.

(See paragraphs 20, 21, and 44.)
Governor Young handed t o the Chairman for distribution

tomembers of the conference, copies of the resolutions unanimous~
ly adopted at a meeting of the stockholders o f the F. R. Bank of
Boston o n November 8, 1929, dealing with the distribution o f earnings o f F. R. banks based upon the provisions o f the Glass Bill
although differing from those provisions i n some respects,
Governor Y o u n g a s k e d t h e c o n f e r e n c e

t o give these resolutions c o n -

sideration and if it cared t o do so, make recommendations t o the
F. R. Board.

( S e e paragraph 45.)
Governor Young a l s o provided t h e Chairman w i t h copies

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consideration a n d such recommendations a s t h e conference c a r e d
to make:

a P r o p o s e d letter X-6443, subject: "Liability
Incurred b y a Member Bank i n Purchasing

F. R. Exchange. ( S e e paragraph 46)
es M e m o r a n d u m X-6444 d a t e d October 7 , 1929 i n

connection with proposed bill t o amend law

re examinations o f member banks. ( S e e
paragraph 47)
x Reconmendations

o f t h e Federal Advisory Coun-

cil adopted a t its meeting o n November 19,
1929. ( S e e paragraph 48)
Governor Young t h e n s a i d that arrangements h a d been
made t o hold a
Fridey,

Joint Conference o f Governors a n d Agents o n

i f possible,

a t t h e United States Chamber

There followed a

o f Commerce.

discussion o f the O p e n Market I n -

vestment Committee procedure i n which Governor Young partici-

pated. ( S e e paragraphs 2, 8, and 10). |
At 1:20 p . m. t h e conference adjourned t o re-convene

at 2:30 p.» m.
First Day's Session, Wednesday, December 11.

afternoon
The meeting was called t o order a t 2:45 p. m.
At t h e C h a i r m a n ' s s u g g e s t i o n ,

Governor Harrison r e -

sumed his discussion o f the O p e n Market Investment operations
in which t h e Governors participated.

D i s c o u n t rates a n d open

market policies w e r e a l s o included i n the discussion after which
it w a s

VOTED t h a t t h e conference i s i n full accord w i t h t h e
present program o f the Open Markct Investment Committee a s ap-

proved b y the Federal Reserve Board o n November 2&5, 1929,
Governor Talley voted i n the negative a n d Governors Norris

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and Calkins a s k e d t o b e recorded a s n o t voting.

( S e e paragraphs

2, 7, and 10)
Governor Harrison t h e n explained t o the conference
that t h e F . R . B a n k o f N e w Y o r k h a s i n i t s o w n a c c o u n t ,

still un-

distributed, about $80,000,000 o f Government bonds bought during
the emergency o n which there i s a substantial profit.

H e said

that while the New York bank i s quite ready and willing t o hold
these bonds f o r its o w n account,
F. R . banks a

h e i s authorized t o offer other

participation a t cost price i f t h e y wish t o take

over their p r o rata share.

N o action was taken,

i t being under-

stood, however, that any bank desiring t o participate would advise
Governor Harrison a s soon a s convenient.
Governor Harrison discussed w i t h t h e conference a

pro-

posal t o change t h e method o f accounting f o r a n d distributing
profits

caunt.

o r losses

o n operations

A f t e r consideration,

i n the O p e n Market Investment A c -

i t was unanimously agreed t h a t after

January 1, 1930, profits a n d losses o n all operations i n that account, whether between participating banks o r with the market,
should b e c a r r i e d

in a

suspense a c c o u n t

ed a s o f t h e e n d o f the year.

I

i n N e w Y o r k a n d distribut-

t was understood that t h e Secre-

tary o f t h e O p e n M a r k e t I n v e s t m e n t C o m m i t t e e w o u l d a d v i s e e a c h

Governor i n writing o f the details o f the proposal submitted b y
Governor Harrison a n d agreed t o b y the conference.
On motion o f Governor McDougal,

i t was

VOTED t h a t the Secretary prepare a n d send suitable
telegrams t o Governors Bailey a n d Harding expressing regret a t
their inability t o attend t h e conference a n d hoping f o r their
rapid recovery.

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TOPIC I . C. R e l a t i o n s w i t h Foreign Banks.
ie R e p o r t .

as O p e r a t i o n s .
38 F o r e i g n exchanges a n d gold
movements.

Governor Harrison reviewed t h e various matters relating
to operations w i t h foreign central banks, calling attention t o
changes i n individual accounts.

H e also reviewed a n d explained

the trend o f gold movements.
es

a

After a

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P a p e r o f Borrowers W h o s e Statements
Show Loans o n Call.

short discussion, t h i s topic w a s passed with-

Sut a c t i o n .

TOPIC 7 , i y R e p o r t o f Committee Appointed a t

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November, 1928 Conference t o Study
F. R . Credit Operations, Including
Effectiveness o f Discount R a t e
Changes a n d Open Market Operations,
in Controlling Total Volume o f F.

Re Credit.

( S e e paragraph 4 4

Secretary's Minutes April 1929
Conference o f Governors.
In the absence o f Governor Harding, Chairman o f this
committee,

n o report w a s available a n d t h e topic w a s passed.

TOPIC Il. A. Report o f Standing Committee o n Col~

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lections.
The Secretary r e a d a report f r o m t h e committee stating t h a t n o t o p i c s h a d b e e n r e f e r r e d

t o i t b y t h e last Governors

conference o r b y a n y o f the F . R. banks, a n d that i t h a d n o
recommendations


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TOPIC II. B.

I n Instances i n Which Forgeries o f En- ( 1 6 )
dorsements a r e Claimed t o Exist o n
Checks Handled f o r Collection b y a
F. R . B a n k f o r t h e A c c o u n t o f A n o t h er F . R . B a n k a n d P r i o r E n d o r s e r s

Deny Right o f Recovery o n Such Checks
Which R e s u l t s

i n Suits B e i n g Brought

Against t h e F. R . Bank s o
Handling t h e Checks, A s Between
the T w o F . R . B a n k s ,

Which Bank

Should Defend S u c h Suits a n d Bear
Expense o f Making Defense.
Mr. Worthington a n d Governor Talley r e a d opinions
furnished b y their counsel a n d after a

general discussion,it

was
VOTED t h a t e a c h case should stand u p o n i t s o w n merits a n d the matter o f expense o f defending s u c h suits should b e
agreed u p o n b y the F,. R. banks interested.
TOPIC II. C . U s e o f A i r Mail.

After a general discussion, i t was the consensus o f
Opinion t h a t t h e a i r mail i s rapidly developing i n t o a

very use-

ful agency, a n d the Standing Committee o n Collections w a s asked
to give t h e subject further consideration.

At 6:30 p. m. the conference adjourned t o re-convene
at 9:30 a. m. O n Thursday, December 12.

Second Day's Session, Thursday, December 12, 1929.
Morning

The meeting w a s caléed t o order a t 9:40 a. m .

TOPIC II. D. Sending Checks Direct t o Drawee Banks ( 1 8 )
in Other Districts. ( S e e Board's
letter X-6405 d a t e d October 31,
1929, a n d Report o f Standing Committee o n C o l l e c t i o n s

After a

o f November, 1 9 2 7 .

general discussion o f the F . R - Board's letter

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WHEREAS,

T h e Standing Committee

o n Collections,

in its report t o the Conference o f Governors o f
November & , 1927, pointed o u t that t h e practice o f a

rs
F. R . b a n k sending checks direct t o member banks
and possibly t o non-member banks i n another district
for remittance, u n d e r arrangements w i t h t h e F.- R.
bank o f that district a n d t h e paying bank, i s n o w be~-

ing carried o n effectively t o a very limited extent
in several o f t h e F. R . districts, a n d
WHEREAS, T h e committee recommended t h a t t h e
F. R - banks b e authorized a t their discretion t o conduct a n experiment a l o n g this l i n e i n a n attempt t o
arrange f o r t h e collection i n this manner o f checks

drawn o n the principle o r large cities i n states adjoining t h e i r d i s t r i c t ,

s u c h experiment

t o b e under-

taken o n l y i n the event that counsel f o r t h e F . R Board approved t h e legality o f such a n arrangement,
and after necessary modification o f Regulation J to
permit s u c h procedure;
NOW, THEREFORE, B E I T RESOLVED, T h a t t h e
Standing Committee o n Collections b e asked t o give
the subject further consideration a n d t o recommend
to the next conference a n amendment t o Regulation J
which will permit F . R. banks a t their option t o s o
effect collection o f checks payable i n adjoining districts, without making i t mandatory u p o n a n y F. R s
banks t o adopt t h e practice, a n d
BE I T FURTHER RESOLVED, T h a t t h e Standing
Committee o n Collections outline t o the conference
the mechanics o f the procedure t o b e followed i n the
event t h a t t h e amendment i s adopted, t o the e n d that
the dangers incident t o such a radical change m a y b e
overcome o r a t least minimized.
TOPIC: Li. B s I n t e r p r e t a t i o n o f Uniform Policy r e

Check Collections. ( S e e Board's
letter X-6409 dated November 7,
19294
The question raised b y the F. R . Board i n its letter
X-6409

a s t o whether

i t would b e inconsistent w i t h t h e uniform

policy, which h a s received t h e approval o f the F . R . Board, f o r

a F. R. bank t o take a pledge o f collateral for the specific
purpose o f protecting itself a s agent i n the collection o f checks

on a specific bank, was the subject o f general discussion i n the
light o f Governor Harding's letter t o the F. R. Board dated


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letter f r o m t h e General Counsel o f

the Board addressed to counsel of each F. R. bank under date
of November 7, 1929, giving his views upon the question raised
by Governor Harding's letter t o the Board, a n d i t was

VOTED t h a t the conference i s i n agreement with the
uniform policy approved b y the F . R - Board i n its letter o f

October 16, 1929 (x#6389); t h a t they are i n favor of the amendment t o Regulation J recommended b y the majority o f the Conference o f Counsel; t h a t they believe, however, i t should b e made
cleat i n the regulation t h a t a n y F. R. bank desiring t o d o so,
may take collateral i n order t o protect itself o n l y from liability a s collecting agent.

G o v e r n o r Geery voted i n the nega-

tive: ( S e e paragraphs 3, 21, and 44.)
In oréer that the F. R- Board might be advised of all ( 2 1 )
of the points taken into consideration during the discussion
preceding t h e action o f the conference,

i t was

VOTED that a committee b e appointed t o confer with the
Governor o f the Fs. R- Board and t o explain the action o f the conference. G o v e r n o r s Geery, McDougal, Seay, a n d Calkins a n d
Mr. Paddock voted i n the negative.
pointed a

committee consisting o f Governors Harrison, Talley, a n d

McDougal to. report t o the Board.


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( S e e paragraphs 3 , 20, and 44.)

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D i s c o n t i n u i n g Payments o f Old Series

( 2 2 )

F. R . N o t e s .

Question o f discontinuing payments
of old serics F . R . notes i n the

denominations o f $5 to $100 inclusive, a n d the problem o f

handling National bank notes o f
those denominations a f t e r discontinuance

o f payments

o f F.. R . a n d

U. S . notes i n t h e 9 l d serics.

(See Board's letter X-6393 dated
October 19, 1929.)
This topic w a s t h e subject o f a general discussion a n d
it was
VOTED t h a t t h e payment o f o l d series F . R . notes i n the
denominations mentioned b e discontinued o n January 2 , 1930, a n d
that t h e conference recommend that t h e Treasury continue t o maintain a t t h e highest possible level, i t s facilities f o r t h e redemption o f National b a n k notes.
1UPLC Tile: B e C a n a d i a n Currency.
Proposed p l a n f o r redemption o f
Canadian currency through F . R .

banks and branches.

( S e e Board's

letter X-6370 dated September 4,
192s.)
In connection w i t h this topic, consideration w a s given t o
the Board's letters X-6370 dated September 4 , 1929, a n d X-6413 dated
November 7 , 1929, a s well a s t h e Board's telegram o f November 16,
1929, postponing t h e plan.

T h e consensus o f dpinion was t h a t i n

view o f the prevailing h i g h rate o f exchange, t h e present i s not a n
opportune t i m e f o r putting t h e proposed p l a n into effect a n d that i t
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Specific M a t u r i t y D a t e

i n Body o f

Customers N o t e s .

Desirability o f requesting
American Bankers Association
to induce commercial banks t o
incorporate specific maturity

date i n the body o f customers
notes i n s t e a d
practice

o f t h e present

o f having notes r e a d

"90 days after date, etc."

(See report o f Auditors Conference h e l d March 19-22, 1929.)
After c a r e f u l a n d d e l i b e r a t e c o n s i d e r a t i o n

posal

t o request t h e American Bankers Association

fluence

t 2 bring about t h e adoption

of a

practice

o f t h e pro-

t o use its ino f incorporat-

ing a specific maturity d a t e i n the b o d y o f customers notes a s
outlined i n the report o f t h e Auditors Conference,
VOTED

Lee c

i t was

t h a t n o a c t i o n b e taken.

e

ee

TOPIC IV. B. Report of Committee o n Policy of F. R. ( 2 5 )
Banks Acting a s Custodians o f Securities, Including Bankers Bills, Pledged

to Secure Public Deposits.

(See

paragraph 4 1 Secretary's minutes April

1929 Conference o f Governors.)
The Secretary read the committee's report and i t was
VOTED t h a t the report b e accepted and filed.
TOeko L e t s M e m b e r Bank Reserves.
fdvisability

(

o f appointing a

2

6

committee

of experts t o devote entire t i m e t o

study and report o n whole subject.
(See paragraphs 3 6 and 37.)
In the discussion,

i t was pointed o u t that this topic h a s

been under study f o r a long time a n d that i t was quite obvious t h a t

a solution could not b e found b y "round table" discussion.

I t was,

therefore,

VOTED t h a t i t is the sense o f the conference that the subject o f bank reserves, s
i one o f the utmost importance requiring the
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o
s es
to the matter w i t h a

view o f drafting a

report t o the F.. R.. Board,

proposing s u c h amendments t o the l a w o r regulations a s i n their
judgment m a y b e necesaary t o remove a n y present inequalities

or

defects a n d t o establish b a n k reserves through o u t t h e country o n
a more logical o r effective basis t h a n n o w appears t o b e possible
under present laws, S t a t e a n d Federal.

Tot

i V . ) P u b l i c a t i o n o f Brokers Loans Figures.

( 2 7 )

Ls S h o u l d t h e y b e discontinued a n d i f
SO, when; 4
Bs O r should t h e y b e more directly a s -

sociated with total collateral
loans o f reporting member banks.
After discussion,

i t was

VOTED t h a t i t i s t h e sense o f the conference t h a t t h e
brokers loans figures a s published b y the F. R . Board i n their
present form, a r e subject t o possible misunderstanding i n that t h e y
represent o n l y a

part o f the total volume o f credit employed i n car-

~ying securities.

T h e conference i s o f the opinion t h a t i t would

be unwise t o discontinue the publication o f these figures a t this
time, b u t believes consideration should be. given t o the advisability
and. practicability o f relating these figures m o r e closely t o the

figures for bank loans o n securities.
TOPIC IV. &. C h a i n and Branch Banking.

(

2

8

Desirability o f a p p o i n t i n g acommittee
to study a n d report o n past a n d future
development o f banking through branches,
chains, groups, etc. i n order that t h e
F. R . System might b e prepared i f neces+
sary t o make recommendations t o Congress
if asked t o d o so.
In connection w i t h this topic, t h e conference g a v e consideration t o the following recommendation o f the Federal Advisory
Council t o the F . R. Board under date o f November 19, 1929;

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"The Federal Advisory Council recommends t h a t
the F . R . Board appoint a committee t o study t h e
merits o f the branch banking s y s t e m a s practiced
in this a n d other countries, (conditions i n Canada
being apparently more comparable w i t h o u r own), t h e
group o r c h a i n b a n k i n g s y s t e m a s d e v e l o p e d

i n this

country a n d elsewhere, a n d t h e unit banking s y s t e m
of this a n d other countries; a n d , further, t h e e f -

fect o f ownership o f bank stocks b y investment
trusts a n d holding corporations, i n order that t h e
F. R. Board m a y b e i n possession o f accurate a n d
authoritative information o n this important subject."
It was
VOTED t h a t t h e conference endorse t h e recommendation
of the Federal Advisory Council made a t its last meeting t h a t a
committee b e appointed t o study this subject.
U E C i Vw i s A d v i s a b i l i t y o f Reeomacnding Amendment
to F. R. Act Permitting Payment o f

Extra Dividends t o Member Banks o n
F. R , b a n k stock, a s Proposed b y »
Senator Glass i n a Bill Introduced

by Him i n the Last Congress.
In connection with this topic, the conference gave careful c o n s i d e r a t i o n

to a

resolution a d o p t e d

at a

meeting

o f t h e stock-

holders o f the F. R. Bank o f Boston held o n November 8, 1929, and
als? t h e provisions
sion o f Congress.

o f the Glass Bill a s introduced i n the last ses<

& £ f t e r a general discussion,

i t was

VOTED t h a t while t h e conference i s o f the opinion that i t

woul&é be wise t o give member banks some greater share i n excess earnings o f F. R e banks, a s contemplated i n Senator Glass’ bill, nevertheless t h e y believe t h a t there a r e some unavoidable practical difficulties incident t o a regional s y s t e m s u c h a s t h e F . R. System giving
extra dividends predicated o n the amount o f excess earnings i n each
district.

A p a r t f r o m t h e practical difficulties involved, t h e con-

ference i s also fearful l e s t a

distribution o f earnings u p o n such a

basis would inevitably tend t o bring extraneous pressure upon F. R.

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credit policies purely f o r purposes o f earnings.

T h e con-

ference believes t h a t t h e desired objective o f giving member
banks a

larger participation i n F. R . b a n k earnings m a y b e

met with t h e minimum o f difficulty i f t h e present cumulative
dividend

i s increased

to a

definite f i g u r e s u c h a s 8%, r a t h e r

than giving member banks a n interest i n all excess earnings.

Governor Calkins voted i n the negative.
cori A V , h y S h o u l d G o o d Wishes a t Christmas

Time B e Taken as a Matter o f
Course a n d the S e n d i n gfo
Messages O v e r t h e Leased Wire
Conveying Christmas Greetings
Be Discontinued.
After a

short discussion,

i t was

VOTED t h a t t h e sending o f messages o v e r t h e leased
wire conveying Christmas greetings b e discontinued.

Governors

McDougal a n d Black voted i n the negative.
TOPLC V a H e

I s There Anything That C a n B e Done t o
Protect Banks Against Fraud i n Qonnection w i t h Telegraphic Transfers
of Funds S u c h a s Was Imposed on: the
New York Banks b y the B a n k o f
Telluride, Colorado.

Mr. Worthington explained h o w t h e Cashier o f the

Telluride bank succeeded i n effecting transfers through the medium o f bogus telegrams, a n d after a

general discussion o f the

advisability o f taking steps t o prevent a
might involve a

similar fraud which

Federal reserve b a n k i n a substantial loss, i t

was t h e sense o f the conference t h a t there i s n o practical w a y
by which protection could b e afforded a s a

system matter, a n d

that e a c h F. R . b a n k should take s u c h steps a s i t deems advisable f o r i t s o w n protection.


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TOPIC IV, tf. S e r v i c e s f o r Federal F a r m Board.
Reimbursement o f expenses, etc.
in connection w i t h F , R . banks

acting a
s Fiscal Agent of the
United States o n behalf o f the
Federal F a r m Board i n connection

with advances made b y the Board
jointly with banks. ( F o r discussion. )

As i t developed that only one o r twe o f the reserve
banks were confronted with this problem, i t was the opinion that
those banks should s e e k a

solution f o r themselves; therefore,

no

a@tion was taken.
At 12:50 p. m. the conference adjourned t o re-convene
at 2:30 p. m.
Second Day's Session Thursday, December 12.
Afternoon
The meeting w a s called t o order a t 2:30 p e m.

TOPIC IV. J. M e t h o d s o f Popularizing Membership

t a n )

in F . R . System.

La I n c r e a s e d dividends

o n stock.

Senator Glass* bill.

Are

proportions fair.
T s 4%
desirable t h a t earnings
should b e pooled t o make
extra dividends s a m e i n all
districts.

This topic, h a v i n g been covered under Topic IV. Fe,
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TOPIC IV. J.

2

. _Advisability of an amend-

( 3 4 )

ment t o the A c t t o permit
o strictlimited b o r r o w i n g n

ly defined investment securities h e l d b y member banks.
This topic w a s generally discussed, b u t n o action taken,

TOPTC TV. o e

3

. P e r m i t t i n g small out-of-town ( 3 5 )
member banks t o send i n items
unsorted w i t h a n agreed average date o f availability.

N2 action was taken, i t being suggested that this b e

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left, a s recommended i n the report o f the Standing Committee o n Collections o f March 22, 1926,

t o the discretion o f

the F . R - banks,
TOPTC I V , J .

, Providing

4

a s part o f the

much-needed general r e vision o f reserve reguirements, t h e deduction f r o m
gross d e p o s i t s

(a)

of =

C a s h i n vault;

(>) I t e m s with F. Rbanks i n process o f
collection.

(See paragraphs 2 6

and 37)
This topic w a s passed because i t had been covered b y
the action t a k e n under Topic IV. C .
There followed a

general discussion o f the computation

of member b a n k reserve requirements a n d i t was
VOTED t h a t t h e conference r e n e w i t s recommendation

made a t the conference o f April, 1929, that the F. Re Board b e requested t o consider a n amendment t > its regulations w h i c h will

permit member banks t o compute their reserve requirements against
deposits a s o f the opening o f business o n any d a y instead o f the
close o f t h e day.

( S e e paragraphs 2 6 a n d 36,)

TOPIC TVs g s

5

, A d v i s a b i l i t y o f a n amendment

( 3 8 )

to t h e B a n k r u p tt ccp ry
Ao viding t h a t f u n d s _ i n t h e c u s tody o f t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t s

shall b e deposited w i t h member
banks

c f the F. R . S y s t e m

After a general discussion, i t was
VOTED

t h a t t h e conference favors

a n amendment

t o the

Bankruptcy A c t providing that funds i n the custody o f t h e Federal
courts shall b e deposited w i t h member banks 2 f the F. R , Systeme


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TOPLG V 6 ioe R e p o r t o f Leased Wire Committee.

Governor McDougal reported that there had been n o
changes i n the circuits comprising the leased wire system;
that there w a s a n increase o f 5 % i n the volume handled f o r
the first n i n e months o f 1929 a s compared w i t h t h e same

period i n 1928; that the system i s apparently 2perating satisfactorily; a n d that t h e facilities

i n use appear t o b e ample.

It was
VOTED t h a t t h e report o f the Leased Wire Committee
be accepted a n d filed,
geek

I v lis R e p o r t

o f I n s u r a n c e Committees,

The report o f the Insurance Committee w a s r e a d a n d i t

VOTED t h a t the report b e accepted and filed.
T O P O T V . fi. R e p o r t

o f Pension Committee.

The report o f the Pension Committce w a s r e a d a n d discussed a n d i t was
VOTED t h a t i t b e accepted a n d filed.
TOPIC TV. N . R e p o r t o f Subcommittee o f General
Committee o n Bankers Acceptances.

The committec's report was read and i t was thereupon
VOTED t h a t i t b e accepted a n d filed.
The Chairman r e a d a
December 1 2 , 1 9 2 9 , r e f e r r i n g

letter f r o m Governor Young dated
t o the action taken a t the Joint

Conference o f Governors a n d Agents i n November, 1928, i n
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T. impress u p o n member banks t h e dcsir-~
ability o f maintaining a n adequate portfolio o f paper eligible f o r redisccunt
at t h e F . R. banks; a n d
Re

T o more f u l l y acquaint t h e m with t h e k i n d
of paper eligible f o r rediscount.

Governor Young stated that i n accord w i t h t h e acticn
taken b y the joint conference, t h e Chief o f the Board's Division
of Bank Operations a n d the Director o f the Division o f Research
and Statistics h a d prepared a n article entitled "Bligibility o f
Paper f o r Redisccunt a t F . R . Banks" f o r publication i n the F.
R. B u l l e t i n ,

a n d asked that t h e conference furnish t h e Board

with its comments a n d suggestions a s t o changes before publication.

After a

general discussion,

i t was

VOTED t h a t i t i s t h e sense o f the conference t h a t
this i s a very important m a t t e r i n view o f the discussions t h e
conference h a s already had, a n d that e a c h Governzr should take
a copy home w i t h h i m a n d then transmit h i s comments t o t h e
Board.

G o v e r n o r Talley voted i n the negative.

SUPPLEMENTARY TOPIC A. A m e n d m e n t t o Regulation J.
(See Board's letter
X-6389 d a t e d O c t o b e r 1 6 ,

1929, )

(See paragraphs 3, 20, 21)
The conference g a v e consideration t s the request o f
Governor Young that t h e Board b e advised a s t 2 whether,
opinion o f the conference,

i n the

t h e letter making t h e proposed amend-

ment effective a s o f January 1 , 1930, s h o u l d be: rescinded,

N

o

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SUPPLEMENTARY TOPIC B. Resolutions Adopted a t Stock-~

( 4 5 )

holders Meeting o f F. R - B a n k
of Boston o n November 8 , 1929.

(See paragraph 4)
As t h e s e r e s o l u t i o n s w e r e t a k e n i n t o c o n s i d e r a t i o n a n d
discussed

i n connection w i t h Topic IV. F , a n d a s t h e action recorded

under that topic covers t h e specific point raised, t h e topic w a s
passed without further discussicn.

S

U

P

P

L

E

M

E

N

T

A

R

Y

TOPIC C. Proposed Letter X-6443, Subject ( 4 6 )
"Liability Incurred b y a Member B a n k i n . P u r c h a s i n g

F e Re.

Exchange."

(See paragraph 5 )
After careful consideration o f the proposed letter,

it

VOTED t h a t the text o f the Board's ruling contained
therein w a s satisfactory.

S

U

P

P

L

E

M

E

N

T

A

R

Y

TOPIC D. P r o p o s e d Bill t o Amend L a w R e
Examinations o f Member Banks

( 4 7 )

(See memorandum X-6444 dated
October 7 , 1929.)
(See paragraph 5 )
The proposed bill t o amend the law regarding examinations
of member banks w a s t h e subject o f general discussion a n d after careful consideration,

i t was

VOTED t h a t t h e bill a s submitted i n letter X-6444,-which
would impose u p o n t h e F , R . banks t h e responsibility o f providing
for all expense involved,

i t would b e undesirable t o favor s u c h a

measure f o r the following reasons:


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(1) That it would subject all state member banks,
in addition t>. the examinations t h a t t h e y

are now subjected t o under State laws, t o
at least t w o examinations b y the Comptroller
of t h e Currency, w i t h a s many more a s t h e

Fe R, Board might a t any time direct o r the
Fe R , b a n k with t h e approval o f the Board

desire t o make, which w e believe would b e

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@enerally regarded b y State member banks
as a n intolerable burden;
That t h e repeal o f the authority f o r t h e
acceptance o f State examinations w o u l d b e
likely t o antagonize State banking authorities i n every State o f the union;
That t h e requirement t h a t t h e salaries o f t h e
examiners appointed b y the Comptroller o f

the Currency and all expenses o f the examiners provided f o r b y the A c t should b e paid
by the F . R . Board o u t o f the proceeds o f assessments l e v i e d

o n the F. R . banks would in-

volve t h e F . R . banks i n a n expense estimated

at $5,000,000;
That i f i t i s one o f the purposes o f the A c t t o
benefit member banks, w e think that c a n b e much

better accomplished b y the direct method that
we have already recommended t h a n b y this i n direct method.

SUPPLEMENTARY TOPIC E. Recommendations o f Federal
Advisory Council.

(See paragraph 5)
As t h e recommendations w e r e given careful consideration i n connection w i t h other topics appearing o n t h e conference
program, a f t e r a

short discussion, t h i s topic w a s passed a s hav-

ing been previously covered.
At 5:20 p . m s t h e conference adjourned t o re-convene
at 10:30 a . m , Friday, December 13, i n joint session w i t h t h e
F. R - Board a n d F s R e Agents.


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